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25th Feb '17 7:34:11 AM comicwriter
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** The show changed the Titans' battle cry from "Titans, together!" to "Titans, go!" The latter has since been adopted in the comics.
18th Feb '17 12:27:29 PM EBsessed
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If an adaptation of a series is popular, it will [[LostInImitation leave its stamp on subsequent adaptations]]. More strangely, a popular adaptation may leave its stamp on the series it was adapted ''from'', if that series is still ongoing. Ret Canon is when elements from an adaptation of a work (or the adaptation as a whole) is later made canon due to the source material acknowledging it or WordOfGod stating it as such.

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If an adaptation of a series is popular, it will [[LostInImitation leave its stamp on subsequent adaptations]]. More strangely, a popular adaptation may leave its stamp on the series it was adapted ''from'', if that series is still ongoing. Ret Canon is when elements from an adaptation of a work (or the adaptation as a whole) is later made canon canonical due to the source material acknowledging it or WordOfGod stating it as such.



** Naruto and Hinata having [[ForgottenFirstMeeting their first meeting as children,]] when Naruto got beaten up while saving Hinata from a trio of bullies, was a scene created exclusively for the anime, appearing in [[AdaptationExpansion the considerably expanded]] ''Shippuden'' episode 166 as a flashback she recalled during her fight against Pain. No such scene or early meeting between them was ever even ''hinted'' at during the manga itself. However when ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' was made to outline [[RelationshipUpgrade how they finally got together]] between end of the series and the DistantFinale, the very first scene of the film (after the opening narration and lore recap) was a somewhat-modified version of this first meeting scene. As ''The Last'' was the first ''Naruto'' movie to be officially recognised as {{Canon}}, this retroactively canonised their first meeting (and also officially made Hinata the FirstGirlAfterAll).

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** Naruto and Hinata having [[ForgottenFirstMeeting their first meeting as children,]] when Naruto got beaten up while saving Hinata from a trio of bullies, was a scene created exclusively for the anime, appearing in [[AdaptationExpansion the considerably expanded]] ''Shippuden'' episode 166 as a flashback she recalled during her fight against Pain. No such scene or early meeting between them was ever even ''hinted'' at during the manga itself. However when ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' was made to outline [[RelationshipUpgrade how they finally got together]] between end of the series and the DistantFinale, the very first scene of the film (after the opening narration and lore recap) was a somewhat-modified version of this first meeting scene. As ''The Last'' was the first ''Naruto'' movie to be officially recognised as {{Canon}}, canonical, this retroactively canonised their first meeting (and also officially made Hinata the FirstGirlAfterAll).



* The Hall of Justice from the ''{{WesternAnimation/Superfriends}}'' cartoon was made canon in the comics after ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''.
* In both the Golden and Silver Age, Franchise/WonderWoman had the magic lasso -- which could compel total obedience from anyone caught in it. As one might imagine, she had it used on her pretty regularly. As this was regarded as a little squicky for television, the lasso's ability to compel was reduced to being able to force its captive to tell the truth. This is now so canon, [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} The Other Wiki]] doesn't even mention the original ability.

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* The Hall of Justice from the ''{{WesternAnimation/Superfriends}}'' cartoon was made canon canonical in the comics after ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''.
* In both the Golden and Silver Age, Franchise/WonderWoman had the magic lasso -- which could compel total obedience from anyone caught in it. As one might imagine, she had it used on her pretty regularly. As this was regarded as a little squicky for television, the lasso's ability to compel was reduced to being able to force its captive to tell the truth. This is now so canon, canonical, [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} The Other Wiki]] doesn't even mention the original ability.



** Bumblebee's [[{{Sizeshifter}} shrinking abilities]] were also introduced in the show, before being made canon in the comics after ''Comicbook/InfiniteCrisis''. Prior to that, she simply had a suit of PoweredArmor that resembled that of a bee.

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** Bumblebee's [[{{Sizeshifter}} shrinking abilities]] were also introduced in the show, before being made canon canonical in the comics after ''Comicbook/InfiniteCrisis''. Prior to that, she simply had a suit of PoweredArmor that resembled that of a bee.



** The series also introduced the idea of Bruce Wayne being childhood friends with ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}, which was later made canon in the comics by Creator/PaulDini after ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. Prior to this, Batman had been portrayed as being ''much'' older than Zatanna. Only the later series ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' has kept Zatanna younger, making her a peer of Robin.

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** The series also introduced the idea of Bruce Wayne being childhood friends with ComicBook/{{Zatanna}}, which was later made canon canonical in the comics by Creator/PaulDini after ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. Prior to this, Batman had been portrayed as being ''much'' older than Zatanna. Only the later series ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' has kept Zatanna younger, making her a peer of Robin.



** The Tumbler from ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' has been made canon in ''[[Creator/DCComics Detective Comics]]''.

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** The Tumbler from ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' has been made canon canonical in ''[[Creator/DCComics Detective Comics]]''.



* It may shock people to learn that the idea of the Xavier Institute as an actual school was also something that came from the movies. Originally, the school aspect was more of a cover story than anything, and the only actual "students" were the X-Men themselves. Then the [[Film/XMen1 first movie]] came out and introduced the idea of the Institute as a real school with numerous mutant students, and Creator/GrantMorrison subsequently made the idea canon in the comics.

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* It may shock people to learn that the idea of the Xavier Institute as an actual school was also something that came from the movies. Originally, the school aspect was more of a cover story than anything, and the only actual "students" were the X-Men themselves. Then the [[Film/XMen1 first movie]] came out and introduced the idea of the Institute as a real school with numerous mutant students, and Creator/GrantMorrison subsequently made the idea canon canonical in the comics.



* Creator/MattFraction made the Thing Rings from ''WesternAnimation/FredAndBarneyMeetTheThing'' canon in ''Comicbook/{{FF}}''. Though in this case, they're used by Darla Deering rather than [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Ben Grimm]].

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* Creator/MattFraction made the Thing Rings from ''WesternAnimation/FredAndBarneyMeetTheThing'' canon canonical in ''Comicbook/{{FF}}''. Though in this case, they're used by Darla Deering rather than [[Comicbook/FantasticFour Ben Grimm]].



* The country of Sokovia from ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' was later made canon in ''Comicbook/NickSpencersCaptainAmerica''.

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* The country of Sokovia from ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' was later made canon canonical in ''Comicbook/NickSpencersCaptainAmerica''.



* The ''Comicbook/{{Spawn}}'' comics changed the title character's origin so that he was killed by Jessica Priest rather than Chapel from ''ComicBook/{{Youngblood}}''. This concept originated in [[Film/{{Spawn}} the movie]], and was made canon after Creator/RobLiefeld left Creator/ImageComics ([[ChannelHop and took Chapel with him]]).

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* The ''Comicbook/{{Spawn}}'' comics changed the title character's origin so that he was killed by Jessica Priest rather than Chapel from ''ComicBook/{{Youngblood}}''. This concept originated in [[Film/{{Spawn}} the movie]], and was made canon canonical after Creator/RobLiefeld left Creator/ImageComics ([[ChannelHop and took Chapel with him]]).



** The ShipTease between Johnny and Sonya (assumed to be canon on most fans' part anyway), albeit in the form of BelligerentSexualTension (at first, anyway; Sonya mellows out a bit towards Johnny over time). In ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'', we learn that they eventually have a daughter together, named Cassie.

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** The ShipTease between Johnny and Sonya (assumed to be canon canonical on most fans' part anyway), albeit in the form of BelligerentSexualTension (at first, anyway; Sonya mellows out a bit towards Johnny over time). In ''VideoGame/MortalKombatX'', we learn that they eventually have a daughter together, named Cassie.



* On the subject of ''Smash Bros.'', that game influenced how [[VideoGame/FZero Captain Falcon]] was portrayed; all of his appearances after the ''SSB'' games now have him with all of his ''Smash Bros.'' moves intact. It overlaps with AscendedMeme as well. In ''F-Zero GX'', the song that played during the credits reel when you completed Story Mode [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1XW1Y1Tu5A#t=1m5s mentioned the]] [[MegatonPunch Falcon Punch]], hinting that it was one of his canon abilities (his other ''SSB'' moves are left up in the air). In ''[[TheAnimeOfTheGame Falcon Densetsu]]''[=/=]''[[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment GP Legend]]'', Falcon [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa5OkdP3-r8 gets to finally]] [[MemeticMutation show his moves]] during the GrandFinale [[spoiler:[[DyingMomentOfAwesome and goes out in a blaze of glory]]]].

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* On the subject of ''Smash Bros.'', that game influenced how [[VideoGame/FZero Captain Falcon]] was portrayed; all of his appearances after the ''SSB'' games now have him with all of his ''Smash Bros.'' moves intact. It overlaps with AscendedMeme as well. In ''F-Zero GX'', the song that played during the credits reel when you completed Story Mode [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1XW1Y1Tu5A#t=1m5s mentioned the]] [[MegatonPunch Falcon Punch]], hinting that it was one of his canon canonical abilities (his other ''SSB'' moves are left up in the air). In ''[[TheAnimeOfTheGame Falcon Densetsu]]''[=/=]''[[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment GP Legend]]'', Falcon [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa5OkdP3-r8 gets to finally]] [[MemeticMutation show his moves]] during the GrandFinale [[spoiler:[[DyingMomentOfAwesome and goes out in a blaze of glory]]]].



** In the canon games, come ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' Misty has some minor {{tsundere}} and HotBlooded qualities that she lacked in the original.

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** In the canon canonical games, come ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' Misty has some minor {{tsundere}} and HotBlooded qualities that she lacked in the original.



** For years, Chun-Li's deceased father had no name in the game canon. When Capcom finally named him around the time of ''VideoGame/StreetFighterV'', they went with "Dorai", his name from the ''Anime/StreetFighterIIV'' anime.

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** For years, Chun-Li's deceased father had no name in the game game's canon. When Capcom finally named him around the time of ''VideoGame/StreetFighterV'', they went with "Dorai", his name from the ''Anime/StreetFighterIIV'' anime.



** Eve, the young woman Jason falls in love with in the novelization of ''Blaster Master'', ends up being his wife in the sequel ''Blaster Master: Blasting Again'' for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation. The author of the book was surprised to find out that his character had become canon.

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** Eve, the young woman Jason falls in love with in the novelization of ''Blaster Master'', ends up being his wife in the sequel ''Blaster Master: Blasting Again'' for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation. The author of the book was surprised to find out that his character had become canon.canonical.



* The chapter books and comics based on ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' were initially considered LooseCanon. With Hasbro's official position that if something happened in the official comics, the official chapter books, or even in [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls Equestria Girls]] and [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks it's]] [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames sequels]], it's canon unless outright contradicted by the series itself. Despite the fact that no episodes prior to Season 5 (save for [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E18MaudPie at least one episode]]) make outright references to either. Several episodes in Season 5, however, either explicitly reference or allude to events in the books, largely due to the books' main writer [[RunningTheAsylum joining the show's writing stable]].

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* The chapter books and comics based on ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' were initially considered LooseCanon. With Hasbro's official position that if something happened in the official comics, the official chapter books, or even in [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls Equestria Girls]] and [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks it's]] [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames sequels]], it's canon canonical unless outright contradicted by the series itself. Despite the fact that no episodes prior to Season 5 (save for [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E18MaudPie at least one episode]]) make outright references to either. Several episodes in Season 5, however, either explicitly reference or allude to events in the books, largely due to the books' main writer [[RunningTheAsylum joining the show's writing stable]].
16th Feb '17 1:54:01 PM Pinokio
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* In ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'', Logan voluntarily goes through the Weapon X process. In ''Sabretooth Reborn'' a flashback establishes Logan did volunteer for the process, and the memory had been forgotten.
16th Feb '17 7:34:47 AM comicwriter
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* The ''Comicbook/SecretWarriors'' series was relaunched as a team of Inhuman heroes, much like on the TV show.
8th Feb '17 6:07:34 PM comicwriter
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** Ever since the show redefined Mr. Freeze as a tragic figure, consumed for the lost love of his stricken wife, the original comic version was changed to resemble that. Originally, he was just a villain with a gimmicky weapon with no back story, a version that later appeared in ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman''. This backstory was removed in the New 52, to move Freeze more in-line with the rest of Batman's rogues gallery.

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** Ever since the show redefined Mr. Freeze as a tragic figure, consumed for the lost love of his stricken wife, the original comic version was changed to resemble that. Originally, he was just a villain with a gimmicky weapon with no back story, a version that later appeared in ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman''. This backstory was removed in the New 52, to move Freeze more in-line with the rest of Batman's rogues gallery.gallery, but was reinstated in ''Comicbook/DCRebirth''.
7th Feb '17 6:17:35 PM comicwriter
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** The Batmobile has had its famous jet exhaust since the '60s series added it.

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** * The Batmobile has had its famous jet exhaust since the '60s series added it.
7th Feb '17 6:14:47 PM comicwriter
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* The Batcave also originated in the serials.


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** The Batmobile has had its famous jet exhaust since the '60s series added it.
* The giant penny first appeared in the Batman newspaper comic, before it ever appeared in the comic book.


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* The mainstream continuity Superman temporarily adopted a black background for his chest emblem like his ''Comicbook/KingdomCome'' counterpart. Like his KC counterpart, it was to mourn mass death, in this case from the Our Worlds at War storyline.


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** Jason Todd's resurrection now mirrors the way he was revived in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanUnderTheRedHood''.
21st Jan '17 2:43:42 PM comicwriter
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* Misty Knight was redesigned to resemble her [[Series/LukeCage TV counterpart]] in ''Black Panther and The Crew''.
15th Jan '17 11:32:05 AM Dere
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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' created Mr. Freeze's [[TragicVillain incredibly tragic backstory]] and the fan favorite henchwench Harley Quinn. You're hard-pressed to find a work since that doesn't fully embrace both, save for ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'' which decided to drop Freeze's backstory in favor of him having been a jewel thief instead.[[note]]Though a flashback shows a photo of him with a girl.[[/note]]
15th Jan '17 11:06:37 AM Dere
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** Despite ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'''s version of Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} being Kara In-Ze, a loose adaptation of Kara Zor-El, the then-current Supergirl in the comics, Linda Danvers, was given the "white shirt, hot pants" Supergirl costume used in the series.

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** Despite ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'''s version of Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} being Kara In-Ze, a loose an adaptation of Kara Zor-El, the then-current Supergirl in the comics, Linda Danvers, was given the "white shirt, hot pants" Supergirl costume used in the series.
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