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3rd Feb '16 9:08:00 PM HamburgerTime
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[[folder:Theatre]] * ''Theatre/SundayInTheParkWithGeorge'' has perhaps one of the oddest examples out there, introducing a fumble between a man and an apparition of his deceased great-grandmother [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane that may or may not actually be there]]. The man in question, George, is the [[IdenticalGrandson identical great-grandson]] of painter Georges Seurat, and she seems to think he's him, but Sondheim probably should've thought before giving lines like "[[TriumphantReprise We have always belonged together]]" to relatives. [[/folder]]
2nd Feb '16 5:02:21 AM HamburgerTime
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* Unlike [[Literature/PaperTowns the book]], Lacey and Ben don't have much chemistry in ''Film/PaperTowns''. Many viewers felt Lacey had more chemistry with ''Q'' than she did with Ben, or than Q did with Margo.
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* Unlike [[Literature/PaperTowns the book]], Lacey and Ben don't have much chemistry in ''Film/PaperTowns''. Many viewers felt Lacey had more chemistry with ''Q'' than she did with Ben, or than Q did with Margo. This was possibly a holdover from [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/19/paper-towns-john-green_n_6902886.html an earlier (and, according to John Green, far worse) version of the script]] which did in fact change the OfficialCouple from Q and Margo to Q and Lacey.
30th Jan '16 6:57:08 AM DonaldthePotholer
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Making the references clear: I'm a little more mature nowadays
* Isaac from the ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'' series, has a warning for his fellow {{Heroic Mime}}s: Don't have a [[RedOniBlueOni talkative best friend]] [[ExpositionFairy who constantly reminds you that]] [[SaveThePrincess you have to rescue]] [[ChildhoodFriendRomance your girlfriend]]. [[ShipperOnDeck The fealty to the pairing]] [[PoorCommunicationKills could easily be misconstrued]] [[TriangRelations as intent on him staking his own claim]]. Furthermore, don't make things worse by allowing [[TheSmurfettePrinciple another female]] [[FanPreferredCouple on the team]], [[WhiteMage no matter how]] [[TheMedic useful she is]].
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* Isaac Isaac, from the ''VideoGame/GoldenSun'' series, has a warning for his fellow {{Heroic Mime}}s: Don't have a [[RedOniBlueOni talkative best friend]] (Garet) [[ExpositionFairy who constantly reminds you that]] [[SaveThePrincess you have to rescue]] [[ChildhoodFriendRomance your girlfriend]]. girlfriend]] (Jenna). [[ShipperOnDeck The fealty to the pairing]] [[PoorCommunicationKills pairing]], plus scenes where the two interact directly, could easily be misconstrued]] misconstrued [[TriangRelations as intent on him staking his own claim]]. claim]]. (And since you're a Heroic Mime, you can't say anything to counteract that impression; not even to the Player!) Furthermore, don't make things worse by allowing [[TheSmurfettePrinciple another female]] [[FanPreferredCouple on the team]], [[WhiteMage no matter how]] [[TheMedic useful she is]].is]] (Mia).
27th Jan '16 12:37:12 PM pinkdalek
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** At least for the latter's first few appearances, the relationship between the Doctor and the Master was [[FriendlyEnemy far too amiable]] for TheHero and his EvilCounterpart. As mentioned in FoeYay, their respective actors were good friends and this entered into their performances, but most later appearances extrapolated this into straight HoYay. Although while the "The Sound Of Drums"/"Last of the Time Lords" ("I like it when you use my name.") and "The End of Time" (Doctor in a bondage chair. Enough said.) drops hints all over the place between the two, it isn't certain how much of it is deliberate and how much is a Fumble, considering [[Creator/RussellTDavies the writer of these episodes]] [[RunningTheAsylum ships them]].
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** At least for the latter's first few appearances, the relationship between the Doctor and the Master was [[FriendlyEnemy far too amiable]] for TheHero and his EvilCounterpart. As mentioned in FoeYay, their respective actors were good friends and this entered into their performances, but most later appearances from the 1980s onwards extrapolated this into straight HoYay. Although while the "The Sound Of Drums"/"Last of the Time Lords" ("I like it HoYay - eventually heterosexual when you use my name.") and "The End of Time" (Doctor in a bondage chair. Enough said.) drops hints all over the place between the two, it isn't certain how much of it is deliberate and how much is Master regenerated into a Fumble, considering [[Creator/RussellTDavies the writer of these episodes]] [[RunningTheAsylum ships them]].woman.

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** At least for the latter's first few appearances, the The Doctor and Leela. Their relationship between has a bigger power dynamic differential than most Doctor/companion relationships, with Leela being his student and, to a certain extent, his creation. Their relationship was intended to be more distant and vertical than with Sarah Jane, a carry-over from the Third Doctor era who didn't quite fit the Fourth Doctor's alienness. And none of it stops the Doctor checking her out in pretty dresses and the Master was [[FriendlyEnemy far too amiable]] for TheHero and his EvilCounterpart. As mentioned in FoeYay, their respective actors were good friends and this entered into their performances, but most later appearances extrapolated this into straight HoYay. Although trying to grope her thighs or sniff her hair while the "The Sound Of Drums"/"Last hiding with her in doorways. **Notorious real-life flirt Tom Baker was prone to sizing up female costars which his character was presumably intended to have no interest in. Bettan in "Genesis of the Time Lords" ("I like it when you use my name.") and "The End of Time" (Doctor in Daleks" is a bondage chair. Enough said.) drops hints all over nice, helpful female character whose job is to show up for about ten minutes to help the place Doctor get back to his companions, but the {{UST}} between the two, it isn't certain how much of it them is deliberate and how much is a Fumble, considering [[Creator/RussellTDavies the writer of these episodes]] [[RunningTheAsylum ships them]].screen-meltingly distracting.
26th Jan '16 6:25:03 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* InUniverse in ''Manga/GekkanShoujoNozakiKun''. In the FictionalVideoGame ''Conversations with 12 Girls/Girl Princess'' within a TwoGamersOnACouch chapter, the NPC Tomoda is supposed to be the male friend of the protagonist that acts as MrExposition. However, he is being ''overly'' helpful for the protagonist, making the cast wonder if such dedication is, in fact, an InUniverse HoYay in a DatingSim with 12 ''female'' options.
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* InUniverse in ''Manga/GekkanShoujoNozakiKun''.''Manga/MonthlyGirlsNozakiKun''. In the FictionalVideoGame ''Conversations with 12 Girls/Girl Princess'' within a TwoGamersOnACouch chapter, the NPC Tomoda is supposed to be the male friend of the protagonist that acts as MrExposition. However, he is being ''overly'' helpful for the protagonist, making the cast wonder if such dedication is, in fact, an InUniverse HoYay in a DatingSim with 12 ''female'' options.
16th Jan '16 4:48:42 PM Pichu-kun
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** As mentioned, the Titans are all platonic except for Robin/Starfire. A lot of fans have trouble seeing Robin and Raven as requited, especially on Raven's side. They understand each other so well and have such a good friendship in later episodes that many thought Raven liked Robin. Nothing has been confirmed though.
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** As mentioned, the Titans are all platonic except for Robin/Starfire. A lot of fans have trouble seeing Robin and Raven as requited, only friendship, especially on Raven's side. They understand each other so well and have such a good friendship in later episodes that many thought Raven liked Robin. Nothing has been confirmed though.
16th Jan '16 4:46:20 PM Pichu-kun
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[[folder:{{Music}}]] * "Girl Crush" by Little Big Town was supposedly not supposed to sound like a bisexual romance song. It would be bad enough that the singer is using the term "girl crush" [[YouKeepUsingThatWord incorrectly]] however the song is dripping with LesYay. With lyrics like "I wanna taste her lips/Yeah, 'cause they taste like you/I want to drown myself/In a bottle of her perfume" and "I don't get no peace/Thinking about her under your bed sheets/The way that she's whispering/The way that she's pulling you in/Lord knows I've tried/I can't get her off my mind" it seems like the singer is equally into both individuals. [[/folder]]

* [[MindGameShip Flippy and Flaky]] from ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'' are victims of this trope, according to most fans. In spite of the fact that the creator has set two prominent [[OfficialCouple official couples]] (Cuddles/Giggles and Handy/Petunia), [[FanPreferredCouple a lot of fans still want to see Flippy/Flaky happening]]. There are many reasons this happened, but the most important ones are the fact that Flaky is the only one who has appeared to get closer to Flippy, becoming a potential good friend of him, which apparently determined him to stop killing her. She even made him return to his normal self once, although Flaky has developed a phobia for him and she has started running away from him in the latest episodes.

** Azula's interactions with Ty Lee, and vice versa, come off as romantic however it's unknown if that was intentional.

* [[MindGameShip Flippy and Flaky]] from ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'' are victims of this trope, according to most fans. In spite of the fact that the creator has set two prominent [[OfficialCouple official couples]] (Cuddles/Giggles and Handy/Petunia), [[FanPreferredCouple a lot of fans still want to see Flippy/Flaky happening]]. There are many reasons this happened, but the most important ones are the fact that Flaky is the only one who has appeared to get closer to Flippy, becoming a potential good friend of him, which apparently determined him to stop killing her. She even made him return to his normal self once, although Flaky has developed a phobia for him and she has started running away from him in the latest episodes.

** Cyborg and Bumblebee were initially written to dislike each other in hopes that the fandom [[UnfortunateImplications wouldn't assume she was his love interest]] [[TokenMinorityCouple just because they're both black]]. All this accomplished was making the pairing extremely popular in the fandom due to their constant bickering coming off as BelligerentSexualTension.
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** Cyborg and Bumblebee were initially written to dislike each other in hopes that the fandom [[UnfortunateImplications wouldn't assume she was his love interest]] interest [[TokenMinorityCouple just because they're both black]]. All this accomplished was making the pairing extremely popular in the fandom due to their constant bickering coming off as BelligerentSexualTension.

* WesternAnimation/KimPossible and Shego are supposed to be enemies but they get [[FoeYayShipping paired together]] a lot. Shego's nicknames for Kim and the fact she enjoys fighting with her don't help. Shego was eventually paired [[spoiler:Drakken]] and Kim with Ron but those get easily ignored.
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* WesternAnimation/KimPossible and Shego are supposed to be enemies but they get [[FoeYayShipping paired together]] a lot. Shego's nicknames [[TermsOfEndangerment nicknames]] for Kim and the fact she enjoys fighting with her don't help. Shego was eventually paired [[spoiler:Drakken]] and Kim with Ron but those get easily ignored.ignored or written around.
13th Jan '16 3:51:22 PM sorako
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* Oz and Alice from ''Manga/PandoraHearts'' aren't supposed to be a romantic couple. Of course, it's difficult to see that when one of their first interactions has them [[AMagicContractComesWithAKiss kissing to form a contract]]. Also when you see Oz's utter devotion and {{Yandere}} tendencies towards Alice, Alice's {{Tsundere}} antics and the way she keeps fighting with Oz's servant [[HoYay Gilbert]] over Oz's attention, yeah, it's practically impossible to not see Oz and Alice in a romantic light.
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* According to the author of ''Manga/PandoraHearts'', Oz and Alice from ''Manga/PandoraHearts'' aren't supposed to be a romantic couple.couple, claiming their relationship is "on another level" and therefore they can't fall in love with each other. Of course, it's difficult to see that when one of their first interactions has them [[AMagicContractComesWithAKiss kissing to form a contract]]. Also when you see Oz's utter devotion and {{Yandere}} tendencies towards Alice, Alice's {{Tsundere}} antics and the way she keeps fighting with Oz's servant [[HoYay Gilbert]] over Oz's attention, yeah, it's practically impossible to not see Oz and Alice in a romantic light.
2nd Jan '16 4:55:53 PM sorako
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* Judy and Nick from ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' are already suffering from this when their film isn't even out yet. One of the directors has denied there will be a romance between them, but promotional art and videos of them (especially some Chinese posters of them accompanied with tips to find a partner in Singles' Day) show them being physically intimate and connected in ways that's giving fans very different ideas.
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* Judy and Nick from ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' are already suffering from this when their film isn't even out yet. One of the directors has denied there will be a romance between them, but promotional art and videos of them (especially some Chinese posters of them accompanied with tips to find a partner in Singles' Day) show them being physically intimate and connected in ways that's that are giving fans very different ideas.

* The fumble between Warren and Layla in ''Film/SkyHigh'' is very famous in the fandom. Layla spends most of the movie [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend crushing on childhood friend Will]], who is [[ObliviousToLove oblivious]] due to pining for, and eventually dating, the older, prettier Gwen. Layla cries on the shoulder of school bad boy Warren, who has his own reasons for disliking Will, and the two decide to [[OperationJealousy pretend to date to cheese him off]]. They have a number of cute scenes and even go to Homecoming together and by all appearances have a good time before the party is crashed by the bad guys. Will only learns Layla likes him in the last fifteen minutes (from Warren, no less) and just sort of realizes he likes her back without much buildup. This may or may not have been intentional; the film was originally planned as the first in a series of four, and [[WordOfGod according to one of the writers on IMDB]], Will and Layla wouldn't have lasted and she'd have "officially" gotten with Warren.
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* The fumble between Warren and Layla in ''Film/SkyHigh'' ''[[Film/SkyHigh2005 Sky High]]'' is very famous in the fandom. Layla spends most of the movie [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend crushing on childhood friend Will]], who is [[ObliviousToLove oblivious]] due to pining for, and eventually dating, the older, prettier Gwen. Layla cries on the shoulder of school bad boy Warren, who has his own reasons for disliking Will, and the two decide to [[OperationJealousy pretend to date to cheese him off]]. They have a number of cute scenes and even go to Homecoming together and by all appearances have a good time before the party is crashed by the bad guys. Will only learns Layla likes him in the last fifteen minutes (from Warren, no less) and just sort of realizes he likes her back without much buildup. This may or may not have been intentional; the film was originally planned as the first in a series of four, and [[WordOfGod according to one of the writers on IMDB]], Will and Layla wouldn't have lasted and she'd have "officially" gotten with Warren.
2nd Jan '16 4:47:00 PM sorako
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* Ciel and Sebastian have so much HoYay in ''Manga/BlackButler'' that it's easy to forget they're only be using one another for their personal goals (Ciel using Sebastian for revenge and Sebastian only helping him so he can eat his soul later). There are no real hints that indicate they care about each other as friends, or even fellow individuals, but their constant physical intimacy and dialogue has lead to fans shipping them together more than Ciel and his actual fiancee.
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* Ciel and Sebastian have so much HoYay in ''Manga/BlackButler'' that it's easy to forget they're only be using one another for their personal goals (Ciel using Sebastian for revenge and Sebastian only helping him so he can eat his soul later). There are no real hints that indicate they care about each other as friends, or even fellow individuals, but their constant physical intimacy and dialogue has lead to fans shipping them together more than Ciel and his actual fiancee.
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