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13th Feb '17 8:16:08 PM jogirard
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* The infamous ''Film/FantasticFour2015'' barely took the time to set up Reed and Sue as the iconic couple from the comics. Instead, they dwelled on how Ben Grimm, friends with Reed since childhood, helped him reach the scholarship he'd always dreamed of, how Ben (and not Reed's parents) helped Reed move into the Baxter Foundation, how Reed could not consider deploying the teleporter without Ben there, the list goes on. The emotional peak of the movie is when Reed abandons Ben (specifically Ben) in a government facility to save himself from being experimented on...and Ben's reaction is not that unlike a scorned lover. Deleted drafts of the movie had Ben consider enlisting in the army once he realizes Reed is moving on with his life and forgetting him. Uh...

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* The infamous ''Film/FantasticFour2015'' barely took the time to set up Reed and Sue as the iconic couple from the comics. Instead, they dwelled on how Ben Grimm, friends with Reed since childhood, helped him reach the scholarship he'd always dreamed of, how Ben (and not Reed's parents) helped Reed move into the Baxter Foundation, how Reed could not consider deploying the teleporter without Ben there, the list goes on. The emotional peak of the movie is when Reed abandons Ben (specifically Ben) in a government facility to save himself from being experimented on...and Ben's reaction is not that unlike a scorned lover. Deleted drafts of the movie script had Ben consider enlisting in the army once he realizes Reed is moving on with his life and forgetting him. Uh...
13th Feb '17 6:04:50 PM creader
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* ''Anime/WhenMarnieWasThere'' is pretty infamous for this. It's a film about two girls who become very close. There's a lot of hugging, holding hands, cute dancing, [[OldFashionedRowboatDate rowboating]], and emotion flowing around the two--and it doesn't help that Creator/StudioGhibli is quite well-known for writing romance. Everything points towards a cute, bittersweet PuppyLove scenario among two girls but [[spoiler:it isn't even meant to be a RomanticTwoGirlFriendship. Marnie was DeadAllAlong and is Anna's ''grandmother'']]. Anna and Marnie's bond fails to seem [[spoiler:familial]] to a large number of viewers.



* ''Anime/WhenMarnieWasThere'' is pretty infamous for this. It's a film about two girls who become very close. There's a lot of hugging, holding hands, cute dancing, [[OldFashionedRowboatDate rowboating]], and emotion flowing around the two--and it doesn't help that Creator/StudioGhibli is quite well-known for writing romance. Everything points towards a cute, bittersweet PuppyLove scenario among two girls but [[spoiler:it isn't even meant to be a RomanticTwoGirlFriendship. Marnie was DeadAllAlong and is Anna's ''grandmother'']]. Anna and Marnie's bond fails to seem [[spoiler:familial]] to a large number of viewers.
11th Feb '17 10:42:31 PM JoeMerl
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* In the low-budget film ''Film/ATalkingCat'', the character Chris is supposed to wind up with Tina, but the film is so poorly written that he winds up having more chemistry with her ''[[HoYay brother]]'', Trent. (Bonus points for the fact that both the boys go swimming in the pool together at one point.)

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* In the low-budget film ''Film/ATalkingCat'', the character Chris is supposed to wind up with Tina, but the film is so poorly written that he winds up having more chemistry with her Tina's ''[[HoYay brother]]'', Trent. (Bonus points for the fact that both the boys go swimming in the pool together at one point.)) It's worth noting that the company that made this movie also specializes in explicitly homoerotic films.
11th Feb '17 10:34:56 PM JoeMerl
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** Harry and Hermione. Rowling said (in an interview for the book "Harry, A History" that came out in late 2008), "Now the fact is that Hermione shares moments with Harry that Ron will never be able to participate in. She shared something very intense with Harry. So I think it [who Hermione would end up with] could have gone that way." However, in other reviews, Rowling said Harry and Hermione are incompatible, so it's a bit vague-ish. Then there's a [[http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/02/02/j-k-rowling-says-hermione-should-have-ended-up-with-harry-potter-not-ron/ statement JKR released]] [[WordOfGod in an interview]] where she expressed regret over pairing Hermione with Ron after thinking seriously about it, remarking that Ron and Hermione would probably be [[RealityEnsues "ending up in marriage counseling"]].

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** Harry and Hermione. Rowling said (in an interview for the book "Harry, A History" that came out in late 2008), "Now the fact is that Hermione shares moments with Harry that Ron will never be able to participate in. She shared something very intense with Harry. So I think it [who Hermione would end up with] could have gone that way." However, in other reviews, Rowling said Harry and Hermione are incompatible, so it's a bit vague-ish. Then there's a [[http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/02/02/j-k-rowling-says-hermione-should-have-ended-up-with-harry-potter-not-ron/ statement JKR released]] [[WordOfGod in an interview]] where she expressed regret over pairing Hermione with Ron after thinking seriously about it, remarking that Ron and Hermione would probably be [[RealityEnsues "ending up in marriage counseling"]].



** Many felt HeterosexualLifePartners Remus and Sirius were... [[HoYay not all that heterosexual]], so much that a segment of the fandom went as far as accusing Rowling of homophobia when the former was revealed to be straight in the sixth book.

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** Many felt HeterosexualLifePartners Remus and Sirius were... [[HoYay not all that heterosexual]], so much that a segment of the fandom went as far as accusing Rowling of homophobia when the former was revealed to be straight in the sixth book.eventually got a female LoveInterest.
5th Feb '17 3:15:11 PM randomtroper89
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* ''VideoGame/ChzoMythos'': The sex scene in ''Six Days A Sacrifice'' is a double version of this; Yahtzee intended for it to read as the ''opposite'' of a romantic scene (thanks to his own unique hangups on the subject of sex), but it ended up being just plain a romantic scene (that's count one), in a situation where a romantic scene had no business being (that's two). He's remarked that if he had the chance to remake the game he would turn it into a rape instead to properly convey the tone he was going for.

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* ''VideoGame/ChzoMythos'': The sex scene in ''Six Days A Sacrifice'' Sacrifice''; the idea is a double version that the character who'd lost most of this; Yahtzee intended their hope for it survival proceeded to read as the ''opposite'' hop into bed with each other, in what Word of a romantic scene (thanks God says was supposed to his own unique hangups on the subject be representative of sex), but it ended up being just plain a romantic scene (that's count one), in a situation where a romantic scene had no business being (that's two).their descent into near-savagery. This was widely assumed to be badly done Fanservice. He's remarked that if he had the chance to remake the game he would turn it into a rape instead to properly convey the tone he was going for.
4th Feb '17 8:50:39 PM Mullon
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** Azula's actions towards her [[BrotherSisterIncest brother]] are nothing short of [[TheVamp seductive]]. (Okay, admittedly, that's how she acts with pretty much ''everyone''.) No WordOfGod whether or not this is intentional. But they sure loved to tease the fans with this idea such as a possible pairing in the series being her and the Blue Spirit, aka Zuko's alternate identity.
** Azula's interactions with Ty Lee, and vice versa, come off as romantic but this was unintentional. Azula was manipulating Ty Lee for her own gain and Ty Lee was afraid of disobeying her.

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** Azula's actions towards her [[BrotherSisterIncest brother]] are nothing short of [[TheVamp seductive]]. (Okay, admittedly, seductive]], though admittedly that's how she acts with pretty much ''everyone''.) ''everyone''. No WordOfGod whether or not this is intentional. But they sure loved to tease the fans with this idea such as a possible pairing in the series being between her and the Blue Spirit, aka Zuko's alternate identity.
** Azula's interactions with Ty Lee, Lee and vice versa, versa come off as romantic romantic, but this was unintentional. Azula was manipulating Ty Lee for her own gain and Ty Lee was afraid of disobeying her.her, it's just that Ty Lee's default personality is to be upbeat and friendly to everyone and Azula's default FauxAffablyEvil personality, as noted above, is to act seductive towards everyone, so their interactions come off as friendlier than one would expect between a blackmailer and her victim. But that's why at the climax of "The Boiling Rock" [[spoiler: Ty Lee betrays Azula to save her actual friend Mai without a second thought]].
4th Feb '17 2:59:37 PM Gamermaster
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* Creator/JamieMarchi was accused of this when writing the dub script for ''Anime/MissKobayashisDragonMaid.'' Early in the show, the titular Miss Kobayashi responds to her maid's advances with "I'm a woman, though." The dub took this at [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday face value]] and changed it to "I'm not into women," fearing that the original was homophobic for taking it as a given that being the same gender should shut down attraction in general. The problem was that, as {{Yuri Fan}}s who protested the change know, "But we're both girls" is a StockPhrase in the YuriGenre, at least in the ComingOutStory part of it, and changing it to literally convey IncompatibleOrientation because the script writer honestly believed it was makes Touru out to be [[DoggedNiceGuy disrespectful and selfish]] at best, [[PsychoLesbian predatory]] at worst.

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* Creator/JamieMarchi was accused of this when writing the dub script for ''Anime/MissKobayashisDragonMaid.'' Early in the show, the titular Miss Kobayashi responds to her maid's advances with "I'm a woman, though." The dub took this at [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday face value]] and changed it to "I'm not into women," fearing that the original was homophobic for taking it as a given that being the same gender should shut down attraction in general. The problem was that, as {{Yuri Fan}}s who protested the change know, "But we're both girls" is a StockPhrase in the YuriGenre, at least in the ComingOutStory part of it, and changing it to literally convey IncompatibleOrientation because the script writer honestly believed the way it was worded makes Touru out to be [[DoggedNiceGuy disrespectful and selfish]] at best, [[PsychoLesbian predatory]] at worst.
4th Feb '17 9:33:23 AM Jisu
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** Jessie's and James' relationship may count. They're very, very good friends (even if [[VitriolicBestBuds they don't always get along]]), with multiple episodes themed abut their relationship. James' [[PuppyLove childhood crush]] and fiance is an IdenticalStranger to Jessie, they fit the MasculineGirlFeminineBoy cliche, and they're also very touchy. Despite this, in the twenty years the anime has been running there hasn't been an undeniable ShipTease for them, besides Jessie blushing when James was on top of her in "Training Daze" (and that happened early in their friendship so you can argue she lost any attraction over time.)

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** Jessie's and James' James's relationship may count. They're very, very good friends (even if [[VitriolicBestBuds they don't always get along]]), with multiple episodes themed abut their relationship. James' [[PuppyLove childhood crush]] and fiance is an IdenticalStranger to Jessie, they fit the MasculineGirlFeminineBoy cliche, and they're also very touchy. Despite this, in the twenty years the anime has been running there hasn't been an undeniable ShipTease for them, besides Jessie blushing when James was on top of her in "Training Daze" (and that happened early in their friendship so you can argue she lost any attraction over time.)time).


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* Creator/JamieMarchi was accused of this when writing the dub script for ''Anime/MissKobayashisDragonMaid.'' Early in the show, the titular Miss Kobayashi responds to her maid's advances with "I'm a woman, though." The dub took this at [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday face value]] and changed it to "I'm not into women," fearing that the original was homophobic for taking it as a given that being the same gender should shut down attraction in general. The problem was that, as {{Yuri Fan}}s who protested the change know, "But we're both girls" is a StockPhrase in the YuriGenre, at least in the ComingOutStory part of it, and changing it to literally convey IncompatibleOrientation because the script writer honestly believed it was makes Touru out to be [[DoggedNiceGuy disrespectful and selfish]] at best, [[PsychoLesbian predatory]] at worst.
1st Feb '17 1:22:25 PM BatmanKalEl
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' had this, resulting in (yet another) shipping war. Mako had dated both Korra and Asami, but the writers made it insufficiently clear to the fans when one couple had broken up, which they interpreted to mean that he had no problem having two girlfriends at the same time. [[spoiler:Particularly HilariousInHindsight now that Korra and Asami are the OfficialCouple

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' had this, resulting in (yet another) shipping war. Mako had dated both Korra and Asami, but the writers made it insufficiently clear to the fans when one couple had broken up, which they interpreted to mean that he had no problem having two girlfriends at the same time. [[spoiler:Particularly HilariousInHindsight now that Korra and Asami are the OfficialCoupleOfficialCouple.]]
1st Feb '17 5:02:49 AM Dommie222
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* Judy and Nick from ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' are supposed to only end up as friends. However, the way they are written together, their deep emotional bonding, and their body language around one another have made their relationship come off as a budding InterspeciesRomance in the eyes of many.

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* Judy and Nick from ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' are supposed to only end up as friends. However, the way they are written together, their deep emotional bonding, and their body language around one another have made their relationship come off as a budding InterspeciesRomance in the eyes of many. It doesn't help that one of the movie's directors, Rich Moore, [[ApprovalOfGod approves]] the shipping, in which Nick's voice actor, Jason Bateman, seems to be an enthusiastic member off.
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