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24th Mar '17 3:57:59 PM Odacon_Spy
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** ''WebVideo/ElevenLittleRoosters'' has a mysterious figure in a black hoodie who appears at the scene of several assassinations. The viewers, and [[TheProtagonist Agent Moose]], are left to assume that this is the Saboteur in disguise, surveying their handiwork, but by the end of the series the two are revealed to be unrelated and who they really are is never explained. And, just like in Nan Quest below, their presence in one scene gives the ''real'' Saboteur an alibi.

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** ''WebVideo/ElevenLittleRoosters'' has a mysterious figure in a black hoodie who appears at the scene of several assassinations. The viewers, and [[TheProtagonist Agent Moose]], are left to assume that this is the Saboteur in disguise, surveying their handiwork, but by the end of the series the two are revealed to be unrelated and who they really are the person in the hoodie's identity is never explained. And, just like in Nan Quest below, their presence in one scene gives the ''real'' Saboteur an alibi.
23rd Mar '17 6:43:59 PM Gosicrystal
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** Puzzle No. 117 in ''[[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheDiabolicalBox Diabolical Box]]'' features a photograph of three men and their wives. Two of the women are sisters and your task is to determine who's married to the third woman. The answer is straightforward based on the instructions' statements, so the puzzle adds a couple of irrelevant facts like "No man is behind his own wife in this photo" and "The woman who's not a sister to any of the other is in front of the man who's married to the older sister" to possibly make you think it's necessary to find out everyone's identity, but you don't need to do that at all. In fact, the women could be out of the photo and it wouldn't make a difference in terms of resolution.

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** Puzzle No. 117 in ''[[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheDiabolicalBox The Diabolical Box]]'' Box]]'':
*** Puzzle No. 117
features a photograph of three men and their wives. Two of the women are sisters and your task is to determine who's married to the third woman. The answer is straightforward based on the instructions' statements, so the puzzle adds a couple of irrelevant facts like "No man is behind his own wife in this photo" and "The woman who's not a sister to any of the other is in front of the man who's married to the older sister" to possibly make you think it's necessary to find out everyone's identity, but you don't need to do that at all. In fact, the women could be out of the photo and it wouldn't make a difference in terms of resolution.resolution.
*** Puzzle No. 93 has you figuring out a little girl's age based on four pieces of information comparing the ages of her parents, her older sister, and herself. However, only two of these are useful; the rest are pointless. It's one of those mathematical problems with two equations and two unknown quantities ("My sister is twice my age" and "In five years, I'll be my sister's age").
22nd Mar '17 5:35:22 PM Gosicrystal
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** Puzzle No. 117 in ''[[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheDiabolicalBox Diabolical Box]]'' features a photograph of three men and their wives. Two of the women are sisters and your task is to determine who's married to the third woman. The answer is straightforward based on the instructions' statements, so the puzzle adds a couple of irrelevant facts like "No man is behind his own wife in this photo" and "The woman who's not a sister to any of the other is in front of the man who's married to the older sister" to possibly make you think it's necessary to find out everyone's identity, but you don't need to do that at all. In fact, the women could be out of the photo and it wouldn't make a difference in terms of resolution.
20th Mar '17 5:51:41 PM eroock
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Compare: MistakenForEvidence, where the same result is caused by a mix-up instead of intentional misdirection. AndYouThoughtItWasReal, when an object that is fictional (such as a prop) is mistaken for being real. TheUntwist is when a plot twist is confused for a Red Herring because it's too obvious, but turns out to have been genuine all along. See also ChewbaccaDefense, when a red herring is used to baffle your opponents, and NonSequitur, when an event does not [[ItMakesSenseInContext make sense in context]]. See also BigSecret. [[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant Has nothing to do with]] WithThisHerring. If a major star is used to sucker the audience rather than the actual characters, you've just been served DeadStarWalking, or at least an aversion of NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize. Also compare Fauxshadow. Subject to being SpoiledByTheFormat: if they've just found a plausible suspect, but there's 180 more pages to go, well...

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Compare: MistakenForEvidence, where the same result is caused by a mix-up instead of intentional misdirection. AndYouThoughtItWasReal, when an object that is fictional (such as a prop) is mistaken for being real. TheUntwist is when a plot twist is confused for a Red Herring because it's too obvious, but turns out to have been genuine all along. See also ChewbaccaDefense, when a red herring is used to baffle your opponents, and NonSequitur, when an event does not [[ItMakesSenseInContext make sense in context]]. See also BigSecret. [[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant Has nothing to do with]] WithThisHerring. If a major star is used to sucker the audience rather than the actual characters, you've just been served DeadStarWalking, or at least an aversion of NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize. Also compare Fauxshadow.{{Fauxshadow}}. Subject to being SpoiledByTheFormat: if they've just found a plausible suspect, but there's 180 more pages to go, well...
20th Mar '17 5:51:26 PM eroock
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Compare: MistakenForEvidence, where the same result is caused by a mix-up instead of intentional misdirection. AndYouThoughtItWasReal, when an object that is fictional (such as a prop) is mistaken for being real. TheUntwist is when a plot twist is confused for a Red Herring because it's too obvious, but turns out to have been genuine all along. See also ChewbaccaDefense, when a red herring is used to baffle your opponents, and NonSequitur, when an event does not [[ItMakesSenseInContext make sense in context]]. See also BigSecret. [[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant Has nothing to do with]] WithThisHerring. If a major star is used to sucker the audience rather than the actual characters, you've just been served DeadStarWalking, or at least an aversion of NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize. Subject to being SpoiledByTheFormat: if they've just found a plausible suspect, but there's 180 more pages to go, well...

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Compare: MistakenForEvidence, where the same result is caused by a mix-up instead of intentional misdirection. AndYouThoughtItWasReal, when an object that is fictional (such as a prop) is mistaken for being real. TheUntwist is when a plot twist is confused for a Red Herring because it's too obvious, but turns out to have been genuine all along. See also ChewbaccaDefense, when a red herring is used to baffle your opponents, and NonSequitur, when an event does not [[ItMakesSenseInContext make sense in context]]. See also BigSecret. [[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant Has nothing to do with]] WithThisHerring. If a major star is used to sucker the audience rather than the actual characters, you've just been served DeadStarWalking, or at least an aversion of NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize. Also compare Fauxshadow. Subject to being SpoiledByTheFormat: if they've just found a plausible suspect, but there's 180 more pages to go, well...
19th Mar '17 4:50:35 PM Josef5678
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* ''WebVideo/TenLittleRoosters'' had a set of murder weapons which to be chosen by viewers as to who would die and by how. The ones never used, seen, mentioned or even alluded to were a bathroom scale, the power of math, [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} Ruby Rose's Crescent Rose Scythe]] and an ''actual'' red herring. WordOfGod later revealed that Miles Luna was a red herring for just about every possible victim until the end.
** It's sequel, ''WebVideo/ElevenLittleRoosters'', has a mysterious figure in a black hoodie who appears at the scene of several assassinations. The viewers, and [[TheProtagonist Agent Moose]], are left to assume that this is the Saboteur in disguise, surveying their handiwork, but by the end of the series the two are revealed to be unrelated and who they really are is never explained. And, just like in Nan Quest below, their presence in one scene gives the ''real'' Saboteur an alibi.

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* Creator/RoosterTeeth:
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''WebVideo/TenLittleRoosters'' had a set of murder weapons which to be chosen by viewers as to who would die and by how. The ones never used, seen, mentioned or even alluded to were a bathroom scale, the power of math, [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} Ruby Rose's Crescent Rose Scythe]] and an ''actual'' red herring. WordOfGod later revealed that Miles Luna was a red herring for just about every possible victim until the end.
** It's sequel, ''WebVideo/ElevenLittleRoosters'', ''WebVideo/ElevenLittleRoosters'' has a mysterious figure in a black hoodie who appears at the scene of several assassinations. The viewers, and [[TheProtagonist Agent Moose]], are left to assume that this is the Saboteur in disguise, surveying their handiwork, but by the end of the series the two are revealed to be unrelated and who they really are is never explained. And, just like in Nan Quest below, their presence in one scene gives the ''real'' Saboteur an alibi.
19th Mar '17 9:44:57 AM Odacon_Spy
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** It's sequel, ''WebVideo/ElevenLittleRoosters'', has a mysterious figure in a black hoodie who appears at the scene of several assassinations. The viewers, and [[TheProtagonist Agent Moose]], are left to assume that this is the Saboteur in disguise, surveying their handiwork, but by the end of the series the two are revealed to be unrelated and who they really are is never explained. And, just like in Nan Quest below, their presence in one scene gives the ''real'' Saboteur an alibi.
15th Mar '17 8:41:32 PM Discar
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->''The chief difference between the exceptionally knotty problem facing the detective of fiction and that facing the real detective is that in the former there is usually a paucity of clues, and in the latter altogether too many.''

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* ''Literature/WordsOfRadiance'' (second book of ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive''):
** During Dalinar's visions, numbers start appearing on the wall, a countdown toward a day when something terrible happens. Dalinar assumes he did it himself, and doesn't worry about it too much (the cause of it, that is--he worries plenty about the warning itself). [[spoiler:It was actually Renarin, too scared to admit openly that he had bonded with a spren and was receiving visions of the future]].
** Shallan's Shardblade. It's implied that she [[spoiler:got it from her father after she killed him, or perhaps somehow got a hold of it beforehand and killed him with it. Neither is true; the Blade is Pattern, her spren, and is one of the only living Blades left. She killed her mother with him when she was a child, but strangled her father with her necklace after poisoning him]].
9th Mar '17 2:59:14 PM Gosicrystal
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* Many puzzles in the ''Franchise/ProfessorLayton'' games give misleading or irrelevant information in the instructions.
** In ''[[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheCuriousVillage The Curious Village]]'', Puzzle No. 8 says that a land is split in two, and two boys, Alfred and Roland, are going to work on one half each. Then it points out that Roland takes longer to plow but sows faster than Alfred, and finally asks how much money does Roland deserve. The fact that one finishes the work faster is irrelevant; the only thing that matters is that each boy works half the land, so they are paid the same amount.
** In ''[[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheUnwoundFuture The Unwound/Lost Future]]'', Puzzle No. 70 features 10 siblings. Luke is (let's imagine) the eighth of them, and then the wording rambles about the order in which some of the siblings were born and their gender. At the end, the question is: is the third-to-last sibling male or female? The answer is male because we assumed that Luke was the eighth. The rest of the information is pointless.
3rd Mar '17 7:59:59 AM Emperor_Oshron
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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': in the two-part episode "Ghosts of Geonosis", Ezra, Kanan, Chopper, and Rex go to Geonosis--whose people are implied to have been wiped out by the Empire--and find what appears to be the very last Geonosian, who killed every other member of Saw Guerrera's team (who had gone there to investigate earlier) with repaired Separatist droids. The trailers even bring up exactly what the implication of this is: the Geonosian draws a circle within a circle in the dirt to try to explain why it's there and why Saw's men had to be killed, and those familiar with [[Film/AttackOfTheClones the second film in the Prequel Trilogy]] will remember that the Geonosians had a hand in creating the Death Star. [[spoiler: Except it's ''not'' about the Death Star, it's an egg, possibly the last one of the entire Geonosian race, and he was just trying to protect it.]]
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