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12th May '17 6:20:21 PM NWolfman
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* [[Webvideo/BrowsHeldHigh The "Between The Lines"]] episode on "Series/HereComesHoneyBooBoo" was a mostly sympathetic deconstruction of PALS, which he refers to as "The perverse spectacle of seeing." His conclusion is that these types of shows are essentially the 21st century equivalent of a freak show.

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* [[Webvideo/BrowsHeldHigh The "Between The Lines"]] episode Lines" episode]] on "Series/HereComesHoneyBooBoo" ''Series/HereComesHoneyBooBoo'' was a mostly sympathetic deconstruction of PALS, which he refers to as "The perverse spectacle of seeing." His Kyle's conclusion is that these types of shows are essentially the 21st century modern equivalent of a freak show.
30th Apr '17 2:32:07 AM DavidCowie
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* Britain's less than stellar version is the daytime ''Jeremy Kyle Show'', where people from ''disadvantaged'' backgrounds, who are in no way GenreSavvy, and frequently intoxicated, get to play out their conflicts with the acerbic Jeremy refereeing. It was once memorably described by a judge as 'human bear-baiting.'

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* Britain's less than stellar version is the daytime ''Jeremy Kyle Show'', ''Series/TheJeremyKyleShow'', where people from ''disadvantaged'' backgrounds, who are in no way GenreSavvy, and frequently intoxicated, get to play out their conflicts with the acerbic Jeremy refereeing. It was once memorably described by a judge as 'human bear-baiting.'
24th Apr '17 4:43:09 AM Maxiboy136
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* Also in the "not-quite entrapment" genre of true crime shows is ''ToCatchAPredator'', except here, we point and laugh (and be morally outraged by) ''paedophiles''.
--> '''Charlie Brooker''': Despite the subject matter, I'm have little doubt that the whole thing is surreptitiously played for laughs

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* Also in the "not-quite entrapment" genre of true crime shows is ''ToCatchAPredator'', except here, we point and laugh at (and be morally outraged by) ''paedophiles''.
--> '''Charlie Brooker''': Despite the subject matter, I'm have little doubt that the whole thing is surreptitiously played for laughslaughs.
18th Apr '17 8:17:31 PM rjd1922
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* ''WebVideo/DeagleNation'' was believed be be this for years, but it eventually came out that it was staged.



* With a heavy dose of ValuesDissonance : [[BedlamHouse Bethlem Royal Hospital in the 18th century]]

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* With a heavy dose of ValuesDissonance : ValuesDissonance: [[BedlamHouse Bethlem Royal Hospital in the 18th century]]
18th Apr '17 8:14:45 PM rjd1922
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An unscripted show with real people, where the point is to point, laugh, and say, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy "Gee those people are stupid/trashy/jerks!]] Everybody in the cast is either a moron, a {{Jerkass}}, insane, ratchet, or all of the above. The audience sees these people humiliate themselves in public, and is comforted that [[ExpectationLowerer no matter how messed up their own lives may be, at least they have more sense than these fools]].

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An unscripted show with real people, where the point is to point, laugh, and say, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy "Gee those people are stupid/trashy/jerks!]] stupid/trashy/jerks!"]] Everybody in the cast is either a moron, a {{Jerkass}}, insane, ratchet, or all of the above. The audience sees these people humiliate themselves in public, and is comforted that [[ExpectationLowerer no matter how messed up their own lives may be, at least they have more sense than these fools]].
4th Mar '17 10:54:59 AM nombretomado
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** This, in turn, is a genre OlderThanRadio, starting with the 19th-century ''English as She Is Taught,'' which had students who thought "aborigines" meant a mountain chain in North America. When MarkTwain reviewed it, he quoted the student who thought that "there are many fossils in theology departments" and added that sometimes they do get one right.

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** This, in turn, is a genre OlderThanRadio, starting with the 19th-century ''English as She Is Taught,'' which had students who thought "aborigines" meant a mountain chain in North America. When MarkTwain Creator/MarkTwain reviewed it, he quoted the student who thought that "there are many fossils in theology departments" and added that sometimes they do get one right.
24th Feb '17 9:50:51 PM Sabrewing
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* Semi-averted with Oprah Winfrey, who also rounds up freaks and somehow manages to seem more classy than her rivals.

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* Semi-averted with [[Series/TheOprahWinfreyShow Oprah Winfrey, Winfrey]], who also rounds up freaks and somehow manages to seem more classy than her rivals.
20th Feb '17 6:07:13 PM DesertDragon
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* Sally Jesse Raphael.

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* Subverted by Sally Jesse Raphael.Raphael. While she did delve into some of the usual daytime talk show fodder, her SubcultureOfTheWeek episodes actually treated the guests in a respectful manner. For example, episodes that featured {{drag queen}}s and transgender/intersex people actually had them talk about their lives, rather than the usual "Your girlfriend has a secret..." or "Is this a man or a woman?" storylines that other shows used. For this reason, Sally developed an LGBTFanbase that many of these shows lacked.
20th Feb '17 5:52:52 PM DesertDragon
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An unscripted show with real people, where the point is to point, laugh, and say, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy "Gee those people are stupid/trashy/jerks!]] Everybody in the cast is either a moron, a {{Jerkass}}, insane, ratchet, or all of the above. The audience sees these people humiliate themselves in public, and is comforted that [[ExpectationLowerer no matter how messed up their own lives may be, at least there are people whose lives are even more messed up]].

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An unscripted show with real people, where the point is to point, laugh, and say, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy "Gee those people are stupid/trashy/jerks!]] Everybody in the cast is either a moron, a {{Jerkass}}, insane, ratchet, or all of the above. The audience sees these people humiliate themselves in public, and is comforted that [[ExpectationLowerer no matter how messed up their own lives may be, at least there are people whose lives are even they have more messed up]].
sense than these fools]].



Since these are real people involved in unscripted pain, there are people who [[DudeNotFunny can't help but sympathize with them]]. This is often rebutted with the claim that because they're "dumb enough" to have it filmed, they deserve to be laughed at, even though they are all essentially events that [[DidntSeeThatComing the victim could not have predicted]]. (At times it's not even a valid excuse. Some of these shows intentionally use false names when filming their subjects.)-

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Since these are real people involved in unscripted pain, there are people who [[DudeNotFunny can't help but sympathize with them]]. This is often rebutted with the claim that because they're "dumb enough" to have it filmed, they deserve to be laughed at, even though they are all essentially events that [[DidntSeeThatComing the victim could not have predicted]]. (At At times it's not even a valid excuse. Some of these shows intentionally use false names when filming their subjects.)-
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20th Feb '17 5:50:08 PM DesertDragon
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An unscripted show with real people, where the point is to point and laugh, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy "Gee, those people are stupid!" or "Gee, those people are jerks!"]] Everybody in the cast is either a moron, a {{Jerkass}}, insane, or all of the above. The audience sees these people humiliate themselves in public, and is comforted that [[ExpectationLowerer no matter how messed up their own lives may be, at least there are people whose lives are even more messed up]].

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An unscripted show with real people, where the point is to point and point, laugh, and say, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historian%27s_fallacy "Gee, "Gee those people are stupid!" or "Gee, those people are jerks!"]] stupid/trashy/jerks!]] Everybody in the cast is either a moron, a {{Jerkass}}, insane, ratchet, or all of the above. The audience sees these people humiliate themselves in public, and is comforted that [[ExpectationLowerer no matter how messed up their own lives may be, at least there are people whose lives are even more messed up]].
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