History Main / OurDwarvesAreAlltheSame

16th Nov '17 1:01:35 PM Henker
Is there an issue? Send a Message


*** The third are the Dark Iron dwarves, who have black skin and red eyes and were until recently enslaved by a massive fire elemental (that they summoned in a failed attempt to destroy the other two clans). They're pyromaniacs and were written as AlwaysChaoticEvil until their leader joined the Alliance in ''Cataclysm'', live deeper underground than their Ironforge cousins, are much more educated in magic, and stealth. After they joined the Alliance, playable Ironforge Dwarves gained the option to become Mages, Warlocks, and Rogues suggesting an intermixing of culture between the two. The fact that the king of the Ironforge's daughter married the Dark Iron emperor, and her son, and future king, is half Ironforge-and-half Dark Iron, has caused much [[TurnOutLikeHisFather consternation]] among the dwarves.

to:

*** The third are the Dark Iron dwarves, Dwarves, who have black skin and red eyes and were until recently enslaved by a massive fire elemental (that they summoned in a failed attempt to destroy the other two clans). They're pyromaniacs with strong magical abilities and were written as AlwaysChaoticEvil until their leader joined the Alliance in ''Cataclysm'', live deeper underground than their Ironforge cousins, are much more educated in magic, and stealth. After they joined the Alliance, playable Ironforge Dwarves gained the option to become Mages, Warlocks, Mages and Rogues Warlocks suggesting an intermixing of culture between the two. The fact that the king of the Ironforge's daughter married the Dark Iron emperor, and her son, and future king, is half Ironforge-and-half Dark Iron, has caused much [[TurnOutLikeHisFather consternation]] among the dwarves. As of ''Battle For Azeroth'', Dark Iron Dwarves have become a playable race for the Alliance.
4th Nov '17 4:46:03 PM iowaforever
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Dwarves in ''Warhammer'' have one special niggle that sets them apart from other dwarves in fiction: their [[PlanetOfHats hat]] is RevengeBeforeReason. They have a big book called the Book of Grudges, and if you ever wrong a dwarf, they write it down in the book. Grudges all have set standards for fulfilment, usually {{disproportionate|Retribution}}ly high, and they will never stop until it is repaid. ''[[{{Determinator}} Ever]]''. Classic example: a ''Magazine/WhiteDwarf'' Dwarves vs. Empire battle report that resulted in heavy casualties for both sides was justified by a backstory that explained why the Dwarves were attacking: six years ago, the lord underpaid the Dwarven workers who built the castle by ''twelve pennies'' - as far as the lord (and sane real-life human beings) are concerned, it's simply a matter of a few missing coins, but to the Dwarves, ''[[SeriousBusiness you have cheated them out of money, and for that, you must]]'' '''''[[SeriousBusiness die]]'''''. In a more modern example of this, during the Battle of Grimspike Pass, an Orc shaman became too powerful and exploded, causing the pass to collapse and kill ten thousand Dwarf warriors who were standing under it. After the battle, the Dwarves declared vengeance, but not against the Orcs, but the pass itself. In their own words, they won't stop until Grimspike Pass is "mined to exhaustion and the rocks of the pass are as dust". Seriously.
*** They take their honour extremely seriously as well. How seriously? Well, what does a Dwarf do if he or she cannot fulfil a grudge? Well, they become shamed in the eyes of Dwarven society and become Slayers. They cut their hair into a huge mohawk, take a huge battleaxe and no body armour, and seek out battles with the biggest, meanest beasties they can find [[DeathSeeker in the hopes that they die]]. Some of the most successful (or alternatively, ''least'' successful) Slayers are veteran warriors who have killed everything from demonic personifications of primal rage to dragons the length of football pitches. And they do all this because [[HonorBeforeReason honour demands it]]. The only alternative to being a Slayer is being a submarine crewman: Dwarves hate and fear water with unrivalled fervour. The majority choose to become Slayers. Yeah.

to:

** Dwarves Dwarfs in ''Warhammer'' have one special niggle that sets them apart from other dwarves in fiction: their [[PlanetOfHats hat]] is RevengeBeforeReason. They have a big book called the Book of Grudges, and if you ever wrong a dwarf, they write it down in the book. Grudges all have set standards for fulfilment, usually {{disproportionate|Retribution}}ly high, and they will never stop until it is repaid. ''[[{{Determinator}} Ever]]''. Classic example: a ''Magazine/WhiteDwarf'' Dwarves Dwarf vs. Empire battle report that resulted in heavy casualties for both sides was justified by a backstory that explained why the Dwarves Dwarfs were attacking: six years ago, the lord underpaid the Dwarven Dwarfen workers who built the castle by ''twelve pennies'' - as far as the lord (and sane real-life human beings) are concerned, it's simply a matter of a few missing coins, but to the Dwarves, Dwarfs, ''[[SeriousBusiness you have cheated them out of money, and for that, you must]]'' '''''[[SeriousBusiness die]]'''''. In a more modern example of this, during the Battle of Grimspike Pass, an Orc shaman became too powerful and exploded, causing the pass to collapse and kill ten thousand Dwarf warriors who were standing under it. After the battle, the Dwarves Dwarfs declared vengeance, but not against the Orcs, but the pass itself. In their own words, they won't stop until Grimspike Pass is "mined to exhaustion and the rocks of the pass are as dust". Seriously.
*** They take their honour extremely seriously as well. How seriously? Well, what does a Dwarf do if he or she cannot fulfil a grudge? Well, they become shamed in the eyes of Dwarven Dwarf society and become Slayers. They cut their hair into a huge mohawk, take a huge battleaxe and no body armour, and seek out battles with the biggest, meanest beasties they can find [[DeathSeeker in the hopes that they die]]. Some of the most successful (or alternatively, ''least'' successful) Slayers are veteran warriors who have killed everything from demonic personifications of primal rage to dragons the length of football pitches. And they do all this because [[HonorBeforeReason honour demands it]]. The only alternative to being a Slayer is being a submarine crewman: Dwarves Dwarfs hate and fear water with unrivalled fervour. The majority choose to become Slayers. Yeah.



** The Tau themselves seem to fulfill some of the functions of dwarves in the 40,000 Verse. They are shorter and stouter than humans, they have a weak presence in the Warp (meaning they're not very magical), they have a highly ordered and stratified society, and a strong warrior culture... At least when it comes to the Fire caste. And only when compared to other Tau, who are largely peace-loving and lack any aggressivity.

to:

** The Tau themselves seem to fulfill some of the functions of dwarves in the 40,000 40K Verse. They are shorter and stouter than humans, they have a weak presence in the Warp (meaning they're not very magical), they have a highly ordered and stratified society, and a strong warrior culture... At least when it comes to the Fire caste. And only when compared to other Tau, who are largely peace-loving and lack any aggressivity.aggressiveness. Their technology is also far beyond the Imperium's in many cases, with sleek MiniMecha and hover tanks that can run circles around their more traditional Imperial counterparts and standard issue guns that can reach further and hit twice as hard as a bolter. What they do lack compared to "traditional" dwarves is physical strength, as Tau infantry are even weedier than Guardsmen and will die quickly in the face of meaningful assault.
30th Oct '17 5:27:20 PM darkemyst
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Dwarves in the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books at least follow the blunt-speaking and stolid parts, which caused [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity To Ensue]] when Gilderoy Lockhart hired a bunch of surly dwarves for Valentine's Day. Lockhart dressed them up like cupids and set them up working as letter-carriers, which they did not seem to enjoy and nor did anyone else, least of all the other teachers. However, that's the only major appearance of dwarves in the entire series.

to:

* Dwarves in the ''Literature/HarryPotter'' books at least follow the blunt-speaking and stolid parts, which caused [[HilarityEnsues Hilarity To Ensue]] when Gilderoy Lockhart hired a bunch of surly dwarves for Valentine's Day.Day in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets Chamber of Secrets]]''. Lockhart dressed them up like cupids and set them up working as letter-carriers, which they did not seem to enjoy and nor did anyone else, least of all the other teachers. However, that's the only major appearance of dwarves in the entire series.
16th Oct '17 9:35:46 AM MBG
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[/folder]]*

to:

[[/folder]]*
[[/folder]]
16th Oct '17 9:31:33 AM MBG
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* It's heavily implied that dwarves in ''Manga/DungeonMeshi'' largely fit the usual stereotype (smithing, fighting, mining, straightforward). Senshi, the main dwarf of the series, is considered [[SquareRaceRoundClass a very atypical dwarf]], being a BunnyEarsLawyer, NatureHero, and SupremeChef, who can handle himself in a fight but prefers peace first, and admits to not knowing the first thing about ores. Nonetheless, he still has a few traditional dwarven elements in him, such as a distrust of magic and favoring an axe.



[[/folder]]

to:

[[/folder]]
[[/folder]]*
7th Oct '17 10:37:32 AM Zaptech
Is there an issue? Send a Message


See also FiveRaces. Not to be confused with LittlePeopleAreSurreal or DepravedDwarf -- once again, dwar'''''ve'''''s are fantasy creatures; dwar'''''f'''''s are short humans (except in the Literature/{{Discworld}}), and nowadays the polite term for the latter is "little people."

to:

See also FiveRaces. Not to be confused with LittlePeopleAreSurreal or DepravedDwarf -- once again, dwar'''''ve'''''s are fantasy creatures; dwar'''''f'''''s are short humans (except in the Literature/{{Discworld}}), Literature/{{Discworld}} and TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}), and nowadays the polite term for the latter is "little people."
1st Oct '17 7:44:54 PM Glaurung
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

[[folder: Website]]
* Website/TheFantasyNovelistsExam warns against the use of this trope.
-->Is any character in your novel best described as a "dour dwarf?"
[[/folder]]
1st Oct '17 6:33:48 PM TheCuza
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Ever since Tolkien raided the [[Myth/NorseMythology Norse myths]] for good stuff, almost every fantasy world has included them... and most of them have stuck closely to the original. Tolkien's importance to this can be gauged by the fact that the plural form ''dwarves'', which he used to distinguish his dwarves from other dwarfs, [[note]]It was originally a recurring mistake during the writing of ''Literature/TheHobbit'' (or rather "a private piece of bad grammar" that sneaked into the text), but it quickly became an AscendedGlitch.[[/note]] is now regarded by many as the standard plural (at least regarding fantasy -- "dwarfs" is still the accepted plural for humans with dwarfism). Fantasy writers who use "dwarfs", like Creator/TerryPratchett, are now the unusual ones. [[note]]There is a small group that contends that the proper plural should be "dwarrow," as "dwarrow" was the word from which "dwarf" originated. Linguists are quick to point out that that has ''never'' been a word used in modern English and its use is considered, at best, ''very'' non-standard.[[/note]] (Many "Tolkienesque" dwarves, however, are more like the ThemeParkVersion.) Since TheFilmOfTheBook(s), they now even all talk the same. A lot of dwarves are Scottish (or northern, rural, English, whose accents can sound indistinguishable from Scottish accents to most people), Irish, or Russian. An [[PlanetOfHats entire race]] of miners and [[TheBlacksmith blacksmiths]], with names like [[LukeNounverber Dwarfaxe Dwarfbeard and Grimli Stonesack]], who are [[HairTriggertemper overly sensitive about any perceived slight]], always [[ViolentGlaswegian spoiling for a fight]], unable to speak two sentences in a row without calling someone "lad" or "lass," and possessed of [[GoldFever a love of gold and jewels]] that drives them to live in {{Underground Cit|y}}ies where they dig deep and greedily ([[DugTooDeep often with catastrophic results]]).

to:

Ever since Tolkien raided the [[Myth/NorseMythology Norse myths]] for good stuff, almost every fantasy world has included them... and most of them have stuck closely to the original. Tolkien's importance to this can be gauged by the fact that the plural form ''dwarves'', which he used to distinguish his dwarves from other dwarfs, [[note]]It was originally a recurring mistake during the writing of ''Literature/TheHobbit'' (or rather "a private piece of bad grammar" that sneaked into the text), but it quickly became an AscendedGlitch.[[/note]] is now regarded by many as the standard plural (at least regarding fantasy -- "dwarfs" is still the accepted plural for humans with dwarfism). Fantasy writers who use "dwarfs", like Creator/TerryPratchett, are now the unusual ones. [[note]]There is a small group that contends that the proper plural should be "dwarrow," as "dwarrow" was the word from which "dwarf" originated. Linguists are quick to point out that that has ''never'' been a word used in modern English and its use is considered, at best, ''very'' non-standard.[[/note]] (Many "Tolkienesque" dwarves, however, are more like the ThemeParkVersion.) Since TheFilmOfTheBook(s), they now even all talk the same. A lot of dwarves are Scottish (or northern, rural, English, whose accents can sound indistinguishable from Scottish accents to most people), Irish, or Russian. An [[PlanetOfHats entire race]] of miners and [[TheBlacksmith blacksmiths]], with names like [[LukeNounverber Dwarfaxe Dwarfbeard and Grimli Stonesack]], who are [[HairTriggertemper [[HairTriggerTemper overly sensitive about any perceived slight]], always [[ViolentGlaswegian spoiling for a fight]], unable to speak two sentences in a row without calling someone "lad" or "lass," and possessed of [[GoldFever a love of gold and jewels]] that drives them to live in {{Underground Cit|y}}ies where they dig deep and greedily ([[DugTooDeep often with catastrophic results]]).



Often they get treated as a functional OneGenderRace; one of the only widespread (but not universal) novelties is what the women look like. Even then, the most common ones seem to veer somewhere around "[[GrannyClassic Grandmother from The Old Country]]"/"[[CutesyDwarf adorable]]" (depending on age) or "[[SamusIsAGirl you're looking at one now]]" (with the GirlsWithMoustaches that implies).

to:

Often they get treated as a functional OneGenderRace; one of the only widespread (but not universal) novelties is what the women look like. Even then, the most common ones seem to veer somewhere around "[[GrannyClassic Grandmother from The Old Country]]"/"[[CutesyDwarf adorable]]" (depending on age) or "[[SamusIsAGirl "[[LadyLooksLikeADude you're looking at one now]]" (with the GirlsWithMoustaches that implies).
25th Sep '17 8:47:45 PM GlassRain
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''Webcomic/GuildedAge'': At first, seemingly played straight by Gravedust. [[LukeNounverber Something-hammer last name?]] Check. Big beard? Check. TheComicallySerious? Check. Standard dwarf. However, later we learn that dwarves are desert nomads who have been driven from their mountains. Furthermore, their women are lustful, their children don't respect authority, and, most atypical of all, some of them [[FelonyMisdemeanor DON'T HAVE BEARDS!]]
** Gravedust isn't your typical armored hammer/axe warrior either. He's some kind of shaman/archer who can speak with the dead and ask them to lend their strength to his arrows. However, the impression he gives of much the rest of his race is that of more traditional dwarf warriors.
23rd Sep '17 12:45:27 PM VutherA
Is there an issue? Send a Message


The dwarf will often serve as TheBigGuy of a fantasy FiveManBand, especially since his WeaponOfChoice tends to be either an [[AnAxeToGrind axe]] or a [[DropTheHammer hammer]]. Ranged combat is not their preference, but if they aren't able to force enemies into close quarters, you can expect guns (FantasyGunControl permitting), throwing axes, or crossbows - in about that order. Likewise, given their fondness for metalworking, at least one dwarf in the distant past is likely to have been the UltimateBlacksmith who forged all manner of ancient and legendary weapons. Weirdly, dwarf wizards and mages are [[SquareRaceRoundClass vanishingly rare]] despite their propensity for making magical artifacts in the original myths.

Often they get treated as a functional OneGenderRace; one of the only widespread (but not universal) novelties is what the women look like. Even then, the most common ones seem to veer somewhere around "[[GrannyClassic Grandmother from The Old Country]]"/"[[CutesyDwarf adorable]]" (depending on age) or "[[SamusIsAGirl you're looking at one now]]".

to:

The dwarf will often serve as TheBigGuy of a fantasy FiveManBand, especially since his WeaponOfChoice tends to be either an [[AnAxeToGrind axe]] or a [[DropTheHammer hammer]]. Ranged combat is not their preference, but if they aren't able to force enemies into close quarters, you can expect guns (FantasyGunControl permitting), throwing axes, or crossbows - in about that order. Likewise, given their fondness for metalworking, at least one dwarf in the distant past is likely to have been the UltimateBlacksmith who forged all manner of ancient and legendary weapons. Weirdly, dwarf wizards and mages are [[SquareRaceRoundClass vanishingly rare]] despite their propensity for making magical artifacts in the original myths.

myths - indeed, it's not uncommon for dwarves to be portrayed as all being at least mildly [[AntiMagic magic-resistant]].

Often they get treated as a functional OneGenderRace; one of the only widespread (but not universal) novelties is what the women look like. Even then, the most common ones seem to veer somewhere around "[[GrannyClassic Grandmother from The Old Country]]"/"[[CutesyDwarf adorable]]" (depending on age) or "[[SamusIsAGirl you're looking at one now]]".
now]]" (with the GirlsWithMoustaches that implies).
This list shows the last 10 events of 723. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.OurDwarvesAreAlltheSame