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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'': This often comes up when [[TheSmartGuy Pearl]] and [[TheBigGuy Amethyst]] are trying to tutor [[KidHero Steven]]. Pearl seems to be more of a rigid [[ParentalSubstitute motherly-figure]] to Steven while Amethyst is a more irresponsible but more fun CoolBigSis. Ultimately {{Downplayed|Trope}} as the two will always defer to [[TheAce Garnet]]'s judgement anytime she intervenes.
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*''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'': In season two Korra ends up with two mentors. The Chief of the Northern Water Tribe who is also her uncle, Unalaq. And the Airbending master Tenzin, the son of her previous incarnation. Unalaq wants to teach her how to understand and heal the new corrupted spirits [[spoiler: which he is responsible for twisting.]] While Tenzin has his doubts about Unalaq's intentions and wants her to work with himself. In the end Korra rejects [[spoiler: Unalaq]] but goes along with part of his goal.

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Ways mentors can be opposed include, but are by no means limited to: training regimes (WaxOnWaxOff versus TrainingFromHell), ethics (WithGreatPower verses MightMakesRight), choice of techniques (MagicVersusScience or FighterMageThief can both be a source of duality), whether talent matters (HardWorkHardlyWorks and TheGift versus TrainingFromHell) and progress ([[ObsoleteMentor the new ways]] versus the GoodOldWays). See also DuelingMessiahs, who are more concerned with doing right by the world than just one person.

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Ways mentors can be opposed include, but are by no means limited to: training regimes (WaxOnWaxOff versus TrainingFromHell), ethics (WithGreatPower verses MightMakesRight), choice of techniques (MagicVersusScience or FighterMageThief can both be a source of duality), whether talent matters (HardWorkHardlyWorks and TheGift versus TaughtByExperience and TrainingFromHell) and progress ([[ObsoleteMentor the new ways]] versus the GoodOldWays). See also DuelingMessiahs, who are more concerned with doing right by the world than just one person.



* ''KenichiTheMightiestDisciple'': Kenichi once finds himself in a situation where he can choose between Hayato's and EvilMentor Ogata's mentorship. It's very tempting for Kenichi because previously Hayato seemingly abandoned him and Ogata seems like a very friendly person. The catch is that the TricksterMentor Hayato himself put Kenichi in this situation to [[SecretTest test his moral priorities]].

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once finds himself in a situation where he can choose between Hayato's and EvilMentor Ogata's mentorship. It's very tempting for Kenichi because previously Hayato seemingly abandoned him and Ogata seems like a very friendly person. The catch is that the TricksterMentor Hayato himself put Kenichi in this situation to [[SecretTest test his moral priorities]].priorities]].
**Within Ryuzanpaku itself, this is an averted trope. Despite one student having as many as ''seven'' mentors, each with their own style, there is no conflict between them. They take turns using rock/paper/scissors. Perhaps this is because they all believe in TrainingFromHell?



* In ''Literature/GoodOmens'', Heaven and Hell both send hand-picked childhood influences (a nanny, a gardener, two teachers) to the home of the boy they think is {{The Antichrist}}. It's the wrong boy.
** Though in this case it's also intentional; Crowley and Aziraphale are secretly in cahoots to make sure the final "score" is a tie.

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* In ''Literature/GoodOmens'', Heaven and Hell both send hand-picked childhood influences (a nanny, a gardener, two teachers) to the home of the boy they think is {{The Antichrist}}. It's the wrong boy.
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boy. It's also intentional; Crowley and Aziraphale are secretly in cahoots to make sure the final "score" is a tie.



* In ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', Katara and Toph have ''very'' different opinions on how Aang should be trained. Katara, his [[MakingASplash waterbending teacher]] goes for the soft, encouraging, positive attitude, while Toph, his [[DishingOutDirt earthbending teacher]], prefers the rougher, blunter, drill sergeant style. This culminates in an interesting mud-fight scene between the two.
** Zuko also had the dueling influences of his [[BigBad father]], a power-mad warlord attempting to raise his son to follow in his footsteps (or get him killed so his [[DaddysLittleVillain sister]] could do so, whatever) and his [[CoolUncle uncle]], a wise [[TheAtoner Atoner]][=/=]DefectorFromDecadence who wanted his nephew to pursue peace on taking the throne.

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Katara and Toph have ''very'' different opinions on how Aang should be trained. Katara, his [[MakingASplash waterbending teacher]] goes for the soft, encouraging, positive attitude, while Toph, his [[DishingOutDirt earthbending teacher]], prefers the rougher, blunter, drill sergeant style. This culminates in an interesting mud-fight scene between the two.
** Zuko also had the dueling influences of his [[BigBad father]], a power-mad warlord attempting to raise his son to follow in his footsteps (or get him killed so his [[DaddysLittleVillain sister]] could do so, whatever) and his [[CoolUncle uncle]], a wise [[TheAtoner Atoner]][=/=]DefectorFromDecadence who wanted his nephew to pursue peace on taking the throne.
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* In ''{{Scrubs}}'' [[DrJerk Dr. Kelso]] and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Dr. Cox]] have this dynamic for the first few episodes, with both being presented as possible mentors to JD. With Dr. Kelso being concerned with money (arguing that if the hospital doesn't make a profit, it'll close) and Dr. Cox arguing that the patient should come first. JD chooses Cox, earning him Kelso's contempt (although later episodes show Kelso in a better light). They recycled this plot a few times;

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* In ''{{Scrubs}}'' ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' [[DrJerk Dr. Kelso]] and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Dr. Cox]] have this dynamic for the first few episodes, with both being presented as possible mentors to JD. With Dr. Kelso being concerned with money (arguing that if the hospital doesn't make a profit, it'll close) and Dr. Cox arguing that the patient should come first. JD chooses Cox, earning him Kelso's contempt (although later episodes show Kelso in a better light). They recycled this plot a few times;
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{{Mentor}}s are always helpful to any self respecting hero. Not only can they pass on knowledge or training, but also points of view, philosophies and even allies (or possibly [[GuiltByAssociation enemies...]]). Unfortunately, sometimes TheHero is particularly talented (or maybe in the right place at the right time) and has more than one mentor trying to recruit them as a student...and they almost always have opposing philosophies.

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{{Mentor}}s are always helpful to any self respecting hero. Not only can they pass on knowledge or training, but also points of view, philosophies and even allies (or possibly [[GuiltByAssociation enemies...]]). Unfortunately, sometimes TheHero is particularly talented (or maybe in the right place at the right time) and has more than one mentor trying to recruit them as a student...and they almost always have opposing philosophies.
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* In ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'', the player encounters two kung fu masters playing [[VariantChess Yi]]. They complement each other [[{{Foil}} in every way]]- one is a Closed Fist practitioner who's disdainful of the player, the other is a polite Open Palm. (They used to be teacher and student, but split over ideological differences.) The player can learn from one- and ''only'' one- of these masters.
-->'''Mistress Vo:''' You taught me much, Jian- but the most valuable lessons were in learning where you were wrong.
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* ''StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker has to choose between following Obi-Wan Kenobi -- representing both Jedi tradition and authority, and general goodness -- and Palpatine -- representing an apparent sensible opposition to Jedi strictness really hiding lust for power and temptation to evil. For a long time, as Palpatine hides his evil and lets Anakin stew in his own dissatisfaction rather than openly encouraging rebellion against Obi-Wan, he doesn't even realise there's a clear opposition. Eventually, he chooses Palpatine and turns to the DarkSide.

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* ''StarWars'': ''Film/StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker has to choose between following Obi-Wan Kenobi -- representing both Jedi tradition and authority, and general goodness -- and Palpatine -- representing an apparent sensible opposition to Jedi strictness really hiding lust for power and temptation to evil. For a long time, as Palpatine hides his evil and lets Anakin stew in his own dissatisfaction rather than openly encouraging rebellion against Obi-Wan, he doesn't even realise there's a clear opposition. Eventually, he chooses Palpatine and turns to the DarkSide.
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* The third ''Film/TheKarateKid'' movie has the main character pick up an EvilMentor after an argument with Miyagi.

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* The third ''Film/TheKarateKid'' movie ''Film/TheKarateKidPartIII'' has the main character pick up an EvilMentor after an argument with Miyagi.
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* ''Series/{{Justified}}'': After her father's "disappearance" in Season 2, [[CowboyCop Raylan Givens]] and [[BigBad Mags Bennett]] both take an interest in Loretta's future, with Raylan attempting to extract her from the criminal underworld, while Mags leads her further into it. Loretta eventually sides with Raylan once his cold war with the Bennetts turns hot, but as future seasons show, Mags is the one whose influence has ultimately lasted.
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* ''ABronxTale'' is about a kid called Calogero growing up under the conflicting influences of his hard-working, honest, but poor father, and the charismatic, rich and powerful, AffablyEvil local mafia don Sonny.

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* ''ABronxTale'' ''Film/ABronxTale'' is about a kid called Calogero growing up under the conflicting influences of his hard-working, honest, but poor father, and the charismatic, rich and powerful, AffablyEvil local mafia don Sonny.



* ''IHeartHuckabees'' featured philosophically opposed existential detectives (who both served as {{Trickster Mentor}}s for their clients) who may or may not have actually been working together, but would never admit it.

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* ''IHeartHuckabees'' ''Film/IHeartHuckabees'' featured philosophically opposed existential detectives (who both served as {{Trickster Mentor}}s for their clients) who may or may not have actually been working together, but would never admit it.



* ''TheForbiddenKingdom'' had Jackie Chan and Jet Li as the two mentors. It even provides a quote, "Two tigers can't rule the same mountain."
* RideTheHighCountry: Steve Judd and Gil Westrum spend much of the movie contesting with each other for the loyalty of their mutual protege, Heck Longtree; Judd wants him to stay honest and reliable, while Westrum hopes to enlist him in his plot to steal the gold.

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* ''TheForbiddenKingdom'' ''Film/TheForbiddenKingdom'' had Jackie Chan and Jet Li as the two mentors. It even provides a quote, "Two tigers can't rule the same mountain."
* RideTheHighCountry: ''Film/RideTheHighCountry'': Steve Judd and Gil Westrum spend much of the movie contesting with each other for the loyalty of their mutual protege, Heck Longtree; Judd wants him to stay honest and reliable, while Westrum hopes to enlist him in his plot to steal the gold.
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* Wrestling/ChrisHero and Dave Prazak, two of the trainers of Nadia Nyce, got into a feud with her in the middle during their shared time in IWA Mid-South. Nyce ended up siding with Hero, who (at the time) had her best interests in mind.
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* In SHINE, one of the primary reasons behind the formation of Wrestling/{{Daffney| Unger}}'s All Star Squad was Valkyrie, and one of Daffney's first recruits was Solo Darling, who was trained by Valkyrie's [[DragonWithAnAgenda odd member out]], Wrestling/IveliesseVelez.[[/folder]]

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* In SHINE, one of the primary reasons behind the formation of Wrestling/{{Daffney| Unger}}'s All Star Squad was Valkyrie, and one of Daffney's first recruits was Solo Darling, who was trained by Valkyrie's [[DragonWithAnAgenda odd member out]], Wrestling/IveliesseVelez.Wrestling/IvelisseVelez.[[/folder]]
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* Wrestling/TripleH and Wrestling/WilliamRegal regarding [[Wrestling/NickDinsmore Eugene Dinsmore]] on Monday Night Raw. This is a case of two evil mentors, as Regal is a self described "Dirty Rotten Scoundrel, [[LargeHam With Hate In His Heart!]]" but Eugene is Regal's MoralityPet, Triple H saw Eugene as a tool to win him the World Heavyweight Championship.
* In SHINE, one of the primary reasons behind the formation of Wrestling/{{Daffney| Unger}}'s All Star Squad was Valkyrie, and one of Daffney's first recruits was Solo Darling, who was trained by Valkyrie's [[DragonWithAnAgenda odd member out]], Wrestling/IveliesseVelez.[[/folder]]
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* RideTheHighCountry: Steve Judd and Gil Westrum spend much of the movie contesting with each other for the loyalty of their mutual protege, Heck Longtree.

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* ''StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker has to choose between following Obi-Wan Kenobi -- representing both Jedi tradition and authority, and general goodness -- and Palpatine -- representing an apparent sensible opposition to Jedi strictness really hiding lust for power and temptation to evil. For a long time, as Palpatine hides his evil and lets Anakin stew in his own dissatisfaction rather than openly encouraging rebellion against Obi-Wan, he doesn't even realise there's any such opposition. Eventually, he chooses Palpatine and turns to the DarkSide.

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* ''StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker has to choose between following Obi-Wan Kenobi -- representing both Jedi tradition and authority, and general goodness -- and Palpatine -- representing an apparent sensible opposition to Jedi strictness really hiding lust for power and temptation to evil. For a long time, as Palpatine hides his evil and lets Anakin stew in his own dissatisfaction rather than openly encouraging rebellion against Obi-Wan, he doesn't even realise there's any such a clear opposition. Eventually, he chooses Palpatine and turns to the DarkSide.

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* ''StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker has to choose between following Obi-Wan Kenobi and Palpatine. For a long time, as Palpatine hides his evil and lets Anakin stew in his own dissatisfaction rather than openly encouraging rebellion against Obi-Wan, he doesn't even realise there's any such opposition. Eventually, he chooses Palpatine and turns to the DarkSide.

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* ''StarWars'': Anakin Skywalker has to choose between following Obi-Wan Kenobi -- representing both Jedi tradition and Palpatine.authority, and general goodness -- and Palpatine -- representing an apparent sensible opposition to Jedi strictness really hiding lust for power and temptation to evil. For a long time, as Palpatine hides his evil and lets Anakin stew in his own dissatisfaction rather than openly encouraging rebellion against Obi-Wan, he doesn't even realise there's any such opposition. Eventually, he chooses Palpatine and turns to the DarkSide.

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* In ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', after Harry [[spoiler:temporarily dies]], Lea takes over his responsibility as Molly's mentor. Her more [[TrainingFromHell violent]] training clashes strongly with Harry's methods, and is much more painful for the student...but it's more effective at teaching her how to fight, as Harry concedes.
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OpposedMentors are an excellent opportunity for character development; the hero is given a choice between them, and the one he chooses (and whether he comes to regret it eventually) can represent what the hero is on the path to becoming (or [[EvilMentor risks becoming]]). Expect the mentors to alternately argue with each other by proxy as they give the hero advice (BonusPoints for having the hero "trapped" between them as they shout back and forth, eventually ignoring the hero all together in favour of their opinion). If one of the mentors is evil you can almost guarantee that they were once a student of the other mentor and if not, that both mentors were students of the same master (who the evil mentor no doubt betrayed, although a good mentor being a DefectorFromDecadence isn't unheard of).

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OpposedMentors are an excellent opportunity for character development; the hero is given a choice between them, and the one he chooses (and whether he comes to regret it eventually) can represent what the hero is on the path to becoming (or [[EvilMentor risks becoming]]). Expect the mentors to alternately argue with each other by proxy as they give the hero advice (BonusPoints for having the (The hero "trapped" may be "[[VisualPun trapped]]" between them as they shout back and forth, eventually ignoring the hero all together in favour of their opinion). If one of the mentors is evil you can almost guarantee that they were once a student of the other mentor and if not, that both mentors were students of the same master (who the evil mentor no doubt betrayed, although a good mentor being a DefectorFromDecadence isn't unheard of).
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* An evil example is in the Creator/CSLewis novel ''ThatHideousStrength'', where the two chief villians disagree on the best way to dehumanize their initiate/captive.

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* GTA, Michael and Trevor to Franklin. One is corrupt but level-headed, the other is honor bound but excessively violent. Both of them butt heads trying to teach Franklin the ropes of high-class heists and their rivalry obstructs them to the point [[spoiler:that Franklin has to choose which one to kill, or if he's willing to risk his life and millions of dollars to save them both]].

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* GTA, In ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'': Michael and Trevor to Franklin. One is corrupt but level-headed, the other is honor bound honourable but excessively violent. Both of them butt heads trying to teach Franklin the ropes of high-class heists and their rivalry obstructs them to the point [[spoiler:that Franklin has to choose which one to kill, or if he's willing to risk his life and millions of dollars to save them both]].
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* A classic example is ''{{Candide}}'', in which the title character falls under the influence of Pangloss and Martin, who are at opposite ends of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism.

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* A classic example is ''{{Candide}}'', ''Literature/{{Candide}}'', in which the title character falls under the influence of Pangloss and Martin, who are at opposite ends of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism.



* In ''LifeOfPi'' the title character has two mentors, [[OneSteveLimit both named Mr. Kumar]]: the first is an uneducated but devout Muslim shopkeeper while the other is Pi's intelligent, atheistic science teacher. Despite their antithetical worldviews they actually get along well the one time they happen to meet each other, and Pi, whose two main interests are religion and animals, doesn't seem to feel conflicted between them.
* In ''AtlasShrugged'', science professor Robert Stadler and philosophy professor Hugh Akston competed for college students John Galt, Ragnar Danneskjold, and Francisco d'Anconia. The latter won and later joined their movement, while the former went on to become a government sell-out.
* In ''{{Good Omens}}'', Heaven and Hell both send hand-picked childhood influences (a nanny, a gardener, two teachers) to the home of the boy they think is {{The Antichrist}}. It's the wrong boy.

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* In ''LifeOfPi'' ''Literature/LifeOfPi'' the title character has two mentors, [[OneSteveLimit both named Mr. Kumar]]: the first is an uneducated but devout Muslim shopkeeper while the other is Pi's intelligent, atheistic science teacher. Despite their antithetical worldviews they actually get along well the one time they happen to meet each other, and Pi, whose two main interests are religion and animals, doesn't seem to feel conflicted between them.
* In ''AtlasShrugged'', ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'', science professor Robert Stadler and philosophy professor Hugh Akston competed for college students John Galt, Ragnar Danneskjold, and Francisco d'Anconia. The latter won and later joined their movement, while the former went on to become a government sell-out.
* In ''{{Good Omens}}'', ''Literature/GoodOmens'', Heaven and Hell both send hand-picked childhood influences (a nanny, a gardener, two teachers) to the home of the boy they think is {{The Antichrist}}. It's the wrong boy.
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* An episode of ''Series/ParksAndRecreation'' sees Ron and Chris clash over the best way to train April to be a manager. They get competitive, and have a wager over whose method can get the most productivity out of Jerry in the course of a workday. In the end, they discover that [[spoiler:April [[LetsYouAndHimFight set the two of them against each other]] so she could blow off the management training]], and see this as a sign that she's going to be fine on her own.
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** Zuko also had the dueling influences of his [[BigBad father]], a power-mad warlord attempting to raise his son to follow in his footsteps (or get him killed so his [[DaddysLittleVillain sister]] could do so, whatever) and his [[CoolUncle uncle]], a wise [[TheAtoner Atoner]] / DefectorFromDecadence who wanted his nephew to pursue peace on taking the throne.

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** Zuko also had the dueling influences of his [[BigBad father]], a power-mad warlord attempting to raise his son to follow in his footsteps (or get him killed so his [[TheFavorite sister]] could do so, whatever) and his [[CoolUncle uncle]], a wise [[TheAtoner Atoner]] / DefectorFromDecadence who wanted his nephew to pursue peace on taking the throne.

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** Zuko also had the dueling influences of his [[BigBad father]], a power-mad warlord attempting to raise his son to follow in his footsteps (or get him killed so his [[TheFavorite [[DaddysLittleVillain sister]] could do so, whatever) and his [[CoolUncle uncle]], a wise [[TheAtoner Atoner]] / DefectorFromDecadence who wanted his nephew to pursue peace on taking the throne.

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