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7th Sep '17 2:41:01 AM Bismuth83
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* Apparently, anyone who enjoyed Megaman 8, X7, or Battle Network 4 is wrong, at least according to the internet.
12th Aug '17 3:05:10 AM Killerikala
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A SuperTrope to FanHater (hating people directly for positive opinions you don't agree with), ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow (getting upset about negative opinions you don't agree with), HePannedItNowHeSucks (same but with reviews), FanMyopia (fans thinking that the subject of their fandom must be well known and generally liked). Sometimes results in either FanDumb or HateDumb.

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A SuperTrope to FanHater (hating people directly for positive opinions you don't agree with), ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow (getting upset about negative opinions you don't agree with), HePannedItNowHeSucks (same but with reviews), FanMyopia (fans thinking that the subject of their fandom must be well known and generally liked). Sometimes results in either FanDumb or HateDumb.
HateDumb, and can be related to NoTrueScotsman.
4th Aug '17 5:49:12 AM 64SuperNintendo
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* The JRPG/WRPG debate tends to veer towards this, especially when the "freedom vs. story" conflict is mentioned.
* The Console Wars. The three groups of Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft often collide with each other, and arguments spawn from literally everywhere, ranging from Website/{{GameFAQs}}, Website/YouTube, and even Amazon. Although it's usually "*insert console here* sucks", there are times where those on the offensive will go even further and begin insulting those who ''like'' the console they hate. Expect to hear the word "fanboy" a lot in these fights. A similar issue occurs between console gamers and PC gamers, although there is often overlap between them. Mobile gaming also gives and gets flack from the other parties as well.
* The arguments that occur between movies with multiple cuts and director cuts also occur between games that get remakes (HD or not).
* Really, if you go to any discussion board or [=YouTube=] comments section in which a particular game is the subject of conversation, you'll inevitably run into some of this from both defenders and critics of the game in question.
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* ''Webcomic/CinemaSnobReviewsFrozen'' (a fan comic where ''WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob'' reviews ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'') spoofs this (as the source Snob videos do as well), such as Snob claiming that his need not to have certain films made matters more than if other people like those films.
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* ''Webcomic/CinemaSnobReviewsFrozen'' (a fan comic where ''WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob'' reviews ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'') spoofs this (as the source Snob videos do as well), such as Snob claiming that his need not to have certain films made matters more than if other people like those films.

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* ''Webcomic/CinemaSnobReviewsFrozen'' (a fan comic where ''WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob'' reviews ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'') spoofs The general feedback loop of 'Oh my God, grown men like ''WesternAnimation/{{My Little Pony|Friendship Is Magic}}'' now?!'/'Yeah, we like ''My Little Pony'' now, what are you gonna do about it?' has led many [[PeripheryDemographic bronies]] to forget that the show has just as many fans in its target demographic (that is, small children, especially of the female variety) as it does grown men and women (and small boys, although this (as is generally ignored), which occasionally causes friction when people who ''haven't'' forgotten this ask them to try and make their... [[RuleThirtyFour not quite]] [[DarkerAndEdgier work safe]] material a little less accessible for the source Snob videos do as well), such as Snob claiming young'uns. Which has apparently led to the newly-penned "Brony Pledge", which is less a "pledge" and more of a "stern reminder from one of us to the rest of you". Which, admittedly, is in and of itself rather more decorum than one usually sees from fandoms that his need not to have an excess of RuleThirtyFour.
* TheSimpsons fans of a
certain films made matters age generally take it for granted that the show is no longer worth watching and hasn't been for... oh, two decades or so, with abstinence from "new Simpsons" episodes a badge of honor for some. While the show isn't as broadly popular as it once was, a consistent supply of new, young viewers have kept the show's ratings respectable enough for it to be continually renewed year after year, edging ever-closer to season 30.
* Animation vet Creator/BruceTimm has said that he rarely lets online criticism get to him for precisely this reason. He reasoned that statistically speaking, the people who post on message boards are a very small fraction of the actual fandom and audience, so just because some people are screaming RuinedForever, that doesn't make it representative of the overall opinion of his work.
* Anyone who spends five minutes on a comic book message board would think ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' is the most hated cartoon of all time, when in reality, it does quite well among its target demographic of young children. Creator/BrianMichaelBendis pointed out that even though "[[ItsNotSupposedToWinOscars It's for kids!]]" is a common admission of a lack of quality, the network and advertisers don't actually care what the PeripheryDemographic thinks.
* Older fans of Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} widely believe that the channel has gone downhill. They also believe that Creator/DisneyChannel, Creator/CartoonNetwork, and even Creator/DiscoveryFamily are beating it. In reality, Nickelodeon easily defeats the latter two, and they have a small head up on the Disney Channel.
* As is the case with most SequelSeries, fans of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' that didn't like ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' have a tendency to believe that no one could possibly like the latter let alone like ''The Legend of Korra'' as much or
more than if other ''The Last Airbender''. They often think that it is a bad series that is disrespectful and contradictory to the original series, and they think that most people like those films.think it is bad. In actuality, critics and most fans find the opposite (that the series is really good, pays respect to its predecessor, and is careful to keep track of continuity and consistency) to be true.




[[folder:Video Games]]
* The JRPG/WRPG debate tends to veer towards this, especially when the "freedom vs. story" conflict is mentioned.
* The Console Wars. The three groups of Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft often collide with each other, and arguments spawn from literally everywhere, ranging from Website/{{GameFAQs}}, Website/YouTube, and even Amazon. Although it's usually "*insert console here* sucks", there are times where those on the offensive will go even further and begin insulting those who ''like'' the console they hate. Expect to hear the word "fanboy" a lot in these fights. A similar issue occurs between console gamers and PC gamers, although there is often overlap between them. Mobile gaming also gives and gets flack from the other parties as well.
* The arguments that occur between movies with multiple cuts and director cuts also occur between games that get remakes (HD or not).
* Really, if you go to any discussion board or [=YouTube=] comments section in which a particular game is the subject of conversation, you'll inevitably run into some of this from both defenders and critics of the game in question.
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[[folder:Western Animation]]
* The general feedback loop of 'Oh my God, grown men like ''WesternAnimation/{{My Little Pony|Friendship Is Magic}}'' now?!'/'Yeah, we like ''My Little Pony'' now, what are you gonna do about it?' has led many [[PeripheryDemographic bronies]] to forget that the show has just as many fans in its target demographic (that is, small children, especially of the female variety) as it does grown men and women (and small boys, although this is generally ignored), which occasionally causes friction when people who ''haven't'' forgotten this ask them to try and make their... [[RuleThirtyFour not quite]] [[DarkerAndEdgier work safe]] material a little less accessible for the young'uns. Which has apparently led to the newly-penned "Brony Pledge", which is less a "pledge" and more of a "stern reminder from one of us to the rest of you". Which, admittedly, is in and of itself rather more decorum than one usually sees from fandoms that have an excess of RuleThirtyFour.
* TheSimpsons fans of a certain age generally take it for granted that the show is no longer worth watching and hasn't been for... oh, two decades or so, with abstinence from "new Simpsons" episodes a badge of honor for some. While the show isn't as broadly popular as it once was, a consistent supply of new, young viewers have kept the show's ratings respectable enough for it to be continually renewed year after year, edging ever-closer to season 30.
* Animation vet Creator/BruceTimm has said that he rarely lets online criticism get to him for precisely this reason. He reasoned that statistically speaking, the people who post on message boards are a very small fraction of the actual fandom and audience, so just because some people are screaming RuinedForever, that doesn't make it representative of the overall opinion of his work.
* Anyone who spends five minutes on a comic book message board would think ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' is the most hated cartoon of all time, when in reality, it does quite well among its target demographic of young children. Creator/BrianMichaelBendis pointed out that even though "[[ItsNotSupposedToWinOscars It's for kids!]]" is a common admission of a lack of quality, the network and advertisers don't actually care what the PeripheryDemographic thinks.
* Older fans of Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} widely believe that the channel has gone downhill. They also believe that Creator/DisneyChannel, Creator/CartoonNetwork, and even Creator/DiscoveryFamily are beating it. In reality, Nickelodeon easily defeats the latter two, and they have a small head up on the Disney Channel.
* As is the case with most SequelSeries, fans of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' that didn't like ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' have a tendency to believe that no one could possibly like the latter let alone like ''The Legend of Korra'' as much or more than ''The Last Airbender''. They often think that it is a bad series that is disrespectful and contradictory to the original series, and they think that most people think it is bad. In actuality, critics and most fans find the opposite (that the series is really good, pays respect to its predecessor, and is careful to keep track of continuity and consistency) to be true.
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28th Jul '17 2:07:02 PM capthanos
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* As is the case with most SequelSeries, fans of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' that didn't like ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' have a tendency to believe that no one could possibly like the latter let alone like ''The Legend of Korra'' as much or more than ''The Last Airbender''. They often think that it is a bad series that is disrespectful and contradictory to the original series, and they think that most people think it is bad. In actuality, critics and quite a large amount of fans find the opposite (that the series is really good, pays respect to its predecessor, and is careful to keep track of continuity and consistency) to be true.

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* As is the case with most SequelSeries, fans of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' that didn't like ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' have a tendency to believe that no one could possibly like the latter let alone like ''The Legend of Korra'' as much or more than ''The Last Airbender''. They often think that it is a bad series that is disrespectful and contradictory to the original series, and they think that most people think it is bad. In actuality, critics and quite a large amount of most fans find the opposite (that the series is really good, pays respect to its predecessor, and is careful to keep track of continuity and consistency) to be true.
17th Jul '17 5:45:33 PM CheeseDogX
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** More recently, the controversy regarding ''Trek'' fan films (largely caused by the creators of ''WebVideo/PreludeToAxanar'') has split the fanbase firmly into three camps: those who consider the fans to be the true owners of ''Trek'' lore, while Paramount is just a bunch of {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s; those who believe that Paramount's legal ownership of the copyright means they're free to do whatever the hell they want with it; and those who haven't watched any fan films and don't get what all the fuss is about.

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** More recently, the controversy regarding ''Trek'' fan films (largely caused by the creators of ''WebVideo/PreludeToAxanar'') has split the fanbase firmly into three camps: those who consider the fans to be the true owners of ''Trek'' lore, while Paramount (until the franchise was bought by CBS) is just a bunch of {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s; those who believe that Paramount's Paramount/CBS's legal ownership of the copyright means they're free to do whatever the hell they want with it; and those who haven't watched any fan films and don't get what all the fuss is about.
23rd Jun '17 9:38:25 PM capthanos
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* As is the case with most SequelSeries, fans of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' that didn't like ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' have a tendency to believe that no one could possibly like the latter let alone like ''The Legend of Korra'' as much or more than ''The Last Airbender''. They often think that it is a bad series that is disrespectful and contradictory to the original series, and they think that most people think it is bad. In actuality, critics and quite a large amount of fans find the opposite (that the series is really good, pays respect to its predecessor, and is careful to keep track of continuity and consistency) to be true.
7th Jun '17 10:52:24 AM comicwriter
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* The concept of WolverinePublicity falls under this. Many of the characters fans often cite as worn out or overexposed (like [[Comicbook/{{Wolverine}} the Trope Namer]], Comicbook/{{Batman}}, Comicbook/IronMan, Comicbook/SpiderMan, ect.) tend to be the most popular and profitable ones, which comes down to there being a large and less vocal group of fans who ''do'' actually enjoy them, despite what the internet may lead to you believe.
3rd Jun '17 3:27:59 PM Scsigs
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** There's also fandom rivalry between ''Sentai'' and ''PR'' fans that aren't fans of both over which is better. ''Sentai'' fans will bring up its more consistent maturity and mature elements that ''PR'' rarely uses. ''PR'' fans will bring up that ''PR'', usually, has a more better mix of humorous and serious elements, as ''Sentai'' usually flip flops depending on the series, and Japanese humor tends to be more in-your-face and over the top versus American humor, which is much more restrained and subdued. There are even fans who'll disavow one for reasons why they hate it.
12th May '17 9:45:06 AM ChronoLegion
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** More recently, the controversy regarding ''Trek'' fan films (largely caused by the creators of ''WebVideo/PreludeToAxanar'') has split the fanbase firmly into three camps: those who consider the fans to be the true owners of ''Trek'' lore, while Paramount is just a bunch of {{Corrupt Corporate Executive}}s; those who believe that Paramount's legal ownership of the copyright means they're free to do whatever the hell they want with it; and those who haven't watched any fan films and don't get what all the fuss is about.
29th Apr '17 4:29:02 PM name_already_chosen
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* Reactions of older readers for Creator/DCComics' ComicBook/{{New 52}} relaunch are getting this as well; many are still in shock that people are enjoying anything coming out of it.

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* Reactions of older readers for Creator/DCComics' ComicBook/{{New 52}} relaunch are getting accused of this as well; many are still in shock that people are enjoying anything coming out of it.it. [[VindicatedByHistory However, the eventual failure of the relaunch has vindicated them.]]
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