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10th Dec '17 9:13:07 PM nanakiro
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* [[ShipToShipCombat Shipping wars.]] So many vicious, seething, blood-boiling wars have been launched because so many fans ''could not comprehend'' how ''anyone'' could not support their OneTruePairing. Not even fans who don't ship them with anyone or have no interest in shipping will be spared, because shippers believe that their OTP champions true everlasting love and if you don't agree with them, then you ''must not believe in love''.

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* [[ShipToShipCombat Shipping wars.]] So many vicious, seething, blood-boiling wars have been launched because so many fans ''could not comprehend'' how ''anyone'' could not support their OneTruePairing. Not even fans who don't ship them with anyone or have no interest in shipping will be spared, because shippers believe that their OTP champions true everlasting love and if you don't agree with them, then you ''must not believe in love''. Conversely, those who don't ship might get into a rivalry with the shippers because ''obviously'' those delusional loons can't see that nobody has subtext with ''anybody'' and can't see why they have to "shoehorn" pairings where there are none.
5th Dec '17 2:27:30 AM SeptimusHeap
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* If your only exposure to the various books in the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} line is the [[http://www.uncannyxcast.com/main/?currentPage=2 Uncanny X-Cast]] podcast, you'd get the impression that it's just accepted that ComicBook/XForce (vol. 3) was the only consistently good book in the line, ComicBook/XFactor is entirely useless, and Greg Land is a wonderful artist. Start with certain other online reviewers and you'll come away with the impression that it's a universally accepted, scientifically proven fact that ComicBook/XForce (vol. 3) was rubbish and ComicBook/XFactor is the only Xbook worth reading, and that it's literally impossible NOT to believe that blindness would be preferable to having to look at Greg Land's art. It's not that both sides disagree, it's that they seem completely unaware that anyone in the world holds the other opinion.

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* If your only exposure to the various books in the ComicBook/{{X-Men}} ComicBook/XMen line is the [[http://www.uncannyxcast.com/main/?currentPage=2 Uncanny X-Cast]] podcast, you'd get the impression that it's just accepted that ComicBook/XForce (vol. 3) was the only consistently good book in the line, ComicBook/XFactor is entirely useless, and Greg Land is a wonderful artist. Start with certain other online reviewers and you'll come away with the impression that it's a universally accepted, scientifically proven fact that ComicBook/XForce (vol. 3) was rubbish and ComicBook/XFactor is the only Xbook worth reading, and that it's literally impossible NOT to believe that blindness would be preferable to having to look at Greg Land's art. It's not that both sides disagree, it's that they seem completely unaware that anyone in the world holds the other opinion.
16th Nov '17 9:56:40 PM Nicoaln
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* Anything hit under the ItsPopularNowItSucks trope to video games. It's not uncommon to hear people make rants disparaging why certain games ([[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement That is all we will say]]) or game genres exist, despite that they regularly target games that happen to sell millions and make ''billions''.
6th Nov '17 6:33:05 AM TheDudeWhoAbides
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* The arguments that occur between movies with multiple cuts and director cuts also occur between games that get remakes (HD or not).

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* The arguments that occur between movies with multiple cuts and director director's cuts also occur between games that get remakes (HD or not).



* Apparently, anyone who enjoyed Megaman 8, X7, or Battle Network 4 is wrong, at least according to the internet.
25th Sep '17 9:53:32 PM jormis29
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* It does not take much searching around online to find remarks about how high-profile children's movies like ''Film/TheSmurfs'', ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'', and ''Film/{{Minions}}'' will cause financial harm to the studios that make them because of their perceived unwatchability. They do not realize that these movies are very well-liked by kids, which is why they can have such a high profile in the first place.

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* It does not take much searching around online to find remarks about how high-profile children's movies like ''Film/TheSmurfs'', ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'', and ''Film/{{Minions}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Minions}}'' will cause financial harm to the studios that make them because of their perceived unwatchability. They do not realize that these movies are very well-liked by kids, which is why they can have such a high profile in the first place.
25th Sep '17 9:16:07 AM Homemaderat
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* The film critic community as a whole has many people who fit this type. The basic logic principle that you can only "accept" or "reject" an opinion naturally does not sit well with the people whose self-described job description is that you speak your opinion and people on purpose want to listen to you. This will often lead to name-calling or blaming systems that have been in place long before they were born as "problems".

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* The film critic community as a whole has many people who fit this type. The basic logic principle that you can only "accept" or "reject" an opinion naturally does not sit well with the people whose self-described job description is that you they speak your their opinion and people on purpose want to listen to you. This will often lead them. So it's not surprising when some easily switch into name calling and blame games when someone interacts with them to name-calling disagree about an opinion or blaming systems that have been in place long before they were born not take their thoughts as "problems".anything important.


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* Tying in with that, the NostalgiaFilter trope easily also brings in this trope. Where some people are so committed to the idea that they "matured" and saw some things now as inferior will outright deny that there is any other option. The other option in this case probably has another word for these people than "mature".


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* Any new form of technology can develop this among it's adopters but some are more notable than others. Generally when something new comes along the pike that's touted as better gets held to that standard. Where anyone who dares not care to adopt clearly just hasn't seen it yet to be amazed or are just not smart enough to appreciate it. The idea that other people have seen it and not care is considered alien.
7th Sep '17 2:41:01 AM Bismuth83
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* Apparently, anyone who enjoyed Megaman 8, X7, or Battle Network 4 is wrong, at least according to the internet.
12th Aug '17 3:05:10 AM Killerikala
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A SuperTrope to FanHater (hating people directly for positive opinions you don't agree with), ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow (getting upset about negative opinions you don't agree with), HePannedItNowHeSucks (same but with reviews), FanMyopia (fans thinking that the subject of their fandom must be well known and generally liked). Sometimes results in either FanDumb or HateDumb.

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A SuperTrope to FanHater (hating people directly for positive opinions you don't agree with), ComplainingAboutPeopleNotLikingTheShow (getting upset about negative opinions you don't agree with), HePannedItNowHeSucks (same but with reviews), FanMyopia (fans thinking that the subject of their fandom must be well known and generally liked). Sometimes results in either FanDumb or HateDumb.
HateDumb, and can be related to NoTrueScotsman.
4th Aug '17 5:49:12 AM 64SuperNintendo
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* The JRPG/WRPG debate tends to veer towards this, especially when the "freedom vs. story" conflict is mentioned.
* The Console Wars. The three groups of Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft often collide with each other, and arguments spawn from literally everywhere, ranging from Website/{{GameFAQs}}, Website/YouTube, and even Amazon. Although it's usually "*insert console here* sucks", there are times where those on the offensive will go even further and begin insulting those who ''like'' the console they hate. Expect to hear the word "fanboy" a lot in these fights. A similar issue occurs between console gamers and PC gamers, although there is often overlap between them. Mobile gaming also gives and gets flack from the other parties as well.
* The arguments that occur between movies with multiple cuts and director cuts also occur between games that get remakes (HD or not).
* Really, if you go to any discussion board or [=YouTube=] comments section in which a particular game is the subject of conversation, you'll inevitably run into some of this from both defenders and critics of the game in question.
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[[folder:Web Comics]]
* ''Webcomic/CinemaSnobReviewsFrozen'' (a fan comic where ''WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob'' reviews ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'') spoofs this (as the source Snob videos do as well), such as Snob claiming that his need not to have certain films made matters more than if other people like those films.
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[[folder:Web Comics]]
* ''Webcomic/CinemaSnobReviewsFrozen'' (a fan comic where ''WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob'' reviews ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'') spoofs this (as the source Snob videos do as well), such as Snob claiming that his need not to have certain films made matters more than if other people like those films.

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[[folder:Western Animation]]
* ''Webcomic/CinemaSnobReviewsFrozen'' (a fan comic where ''WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob'' reviews ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'') spoofs The general feedback loop of 'Oh my God, grown men like ''WesternAnimation/{{My Little Pony|Friendship Is Magic}}'' now?!'/'Yeah, we like ''My Little Pony'' now, what are you gonna do about it?' has led many [[PeripheryDemographic bronies]] to forget that the show has just as many fans in its target demographic (that is, small children, especially of the female variety) as it does grown men and women (and small boys, although this (as is generally ignored), which occasionally causes friction when people who ''haven't'' forgotten this ask them to try and make their... [[RuleThirtyFour not quite]] [[DarkerAndEdgier work safe]] material a little less accessible for the source Snob videos do as well), such as Snob claiming young'uns. Which has apparently led to the newly-penned "Brony Pledge", which is less a "pledge" and more of a "stern reminder from one of us to the rest of you". Which, admittedly, is in and of itself rather more decorum than one usually sees from fandoms that his need not to have an excess of RuleThirtyFour.
* TheSimpsons fans of a
certain films made matters age generally take it for granted that the show is no longer worth watching and hasn't been for... oh, two decades or so, with abstinence from "new Simpsons" episodes a badge of honor for some. While the show isn't as broadly popular as it once was, a consistent supply of new, young viewers have kept the show's ratings respectable enough for it to be continually renewed year after year, edging ever-closer to season 30.
* Animation vet Creator/BruceTimm has said that he rarely lets online criticism get to him for precisely this reason. He reasoned that statistically speaking, the people who post on message boards are a very small fraction of the actual fandom and audience, so just because some people are screaming RuinedForever, that doesn't make it representative of the overall opinion of his work.
* Anyone who spends five minutes on a comic book message board would think ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' is the most hated cartoon of all time, when in reality, it does quite well among its target demographic of young children. Creator/BrianMichaelBendis pointed out that even though "[[ItsNotSupposedToWinOscars It's for kids!]]" is a common admission of a lack of quality, the network and advertisers don't actually care what the PeripheryDemographic thinks.
* Older fans of Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} widely believe that the channel has gone downhill. They also believe that Creator/DisneyChannel, Creator/CartoonNetwork, and even Creator/DiscoveryFamily are beating it. In reality, Nickelodeon easily defeats the latter two, and they have a small head up on the Disney Channel.
* As is the case with most SequelSeries, fans of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' that didn't like ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' have a tendency to believe that no one could possibly like the latter let alone like ''The Legend of Korra'' as much or
more than if other ''The Last Airbender''. They often think that it is a bad series that is disrespectful and contradictory to the original series, and they think that most people like those films.think it is bad. In actuality, critics and most fans find the opposite (that the series is really good, pays respect to its predecessor, and is careful to keep track of continuity and consistency) to be true.




[[folder:Video Games]]
* The JRPG/WRPG debate tends to veer towards this, especially when the "freedom vs. story" conflict is mentioned.
* The Console Wars. The three groups of Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft often collide with each other, and arguments spawn from literally everywhere, ranging from Website/{{GameFAQs}}, Website/YouTube, and even Amazon. Although it's usually "*insert console here* sucks", there are times where those on the offensive will go even further and begin insulting those who ''like'' the console they hate. Expect to hear the word "fanboy" a lot in these fights. A similar issue occurs between console gamers and PC gamers, although there is often overlap between them. Mobile gaming also gives and gets flack from the other parties as well.
* The arguments that occur between movies with multiple cuts and director cuts also occur between games that get remakes (HD or not).
* Really, if you go to any discussion board or [=YouTube=] comments section in which a particular game is the subject of conversation, you'll inevitably run into some of this from both defenders and critics of the game in question.
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[[folder:Western Animation]]
* The general feedback loop of 'Oh my God, grown men like ''WesternAnimation/{{My Little Pony|Friendship Is Magic}}'' now?!'/'Yeah, we like ''My Little Pony'' now, what are you gonna do about it?' has led many [[PeripheryDemographic bronies]] to forget that the show has just as many fans in its target demographic (that is, small children, especially of the female variety) as it does grown men and women (and small boys, although this is generally ignored), which occasionally causes friction when people who ''haven't'' forgotten this ask them to try and make their... [[RuleThirtyFour not quite]] [[DarkerAndEdgier work safe]] material a little less accessible for the young'uns. Which has apparently led to the newly-penned "Brony Pledge", which is less a "pledge" and more of a "stern reminder from one of us to the rest of you". Which, admittedly, is in and of itself rather more decorum than one usually sees from fandoms that have an excess of RuleThirtyFour.
* TheSimpsons fans of a certain age generally take it for granted that the show is no longer worth watching and hasn't been for... oh, two decades or so, with abstinence from "new Simpsons" episodes a badge of honor for some. While the show isn't as broadly popular as it once was, a consistent supply of new, young viewers have kept the show's ratings respectable enough for it to be continually renewed year after year, edging ever-closer to season 30.
* Animation vet Creator/BruceTimm has said that he rarely lets online criticism get to him for precisely this reason. He reasoned that statistically speaking, the people who post on message boards are a very small fraction of the actual fandom and audience, so just because some people are screaming RuinedForever, that doesn't make it representative of the overall opinion of his work.
* Anyone who spends five minutes on a comic book message board would think ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' is the most hated cartoon of all time, when in reality, it does quite well among its target demographic of young children. Creator/BrianMichaelBendis pointed out that even though "[[ItsNotSupposedToWinOscars It's for kids!]]" is a common admission of a lack of quality, the network and advertisers don't actually care what the PeripheryDemographic thinks.
* Older fans of Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} widely believe that the channel has gone downhill. They also believe that Creator/DisneyChannel, Creator/CartoonNetwork, and even Creator/DiscoveryFamily are beating it. In reality, Nickelodeon easily defeats the latter two, and they have a small head up on the Disney Channel.
* As is the case with most SequelSeries, fans of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' that didn't like ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' have a tendency to believe that no one could possibly like the latter let alone like ''The Legend of Korra'' as much or more than ''The Last Airbender''. They often think that it is a bad series that is disrespectful and contradictory to the original series, and they think that most people think it is bad. In actuality, critics and most fans find the opposite (that the series is really good, pays respect to its predecessor, and is careful to keep track of continuity and consistency) to be true.
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28th Jul '17 2:07:02 PM capthanos
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* As is the case with most SequelSeries, fans of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' that didn't like ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' have a tendency to believe that no one could possibly like the latter let alone like ''The Legend of Korra'' as much or more than ''The Last Airbender''. They often think that it is a bad series that is disrespectful and contradictory to the original series, and they think that most people think it is bad. In actuality, critics and quite a large amount of fans find the opposite (that the series is really good, pays respect to its predecessor, and is careful to keep track of continuity and consistency) to be true.

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* As is the case with most SequelSeries, fans of ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' that didn't like ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' have a tendency to believe that no one could possibly like the latter let alone like ''The Legend of Korra'' as much or more than ''The Last Airbender''. They often think that it is a bad series that is disrespectful and contradictory to the original series, and they think that most people think it is bad. In actuality, critics and quite a large amount of most fans find the opposite (that the series is really good, pays respect to its predecessor, and is careful to keep track of continuity and consistency) to be true.
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