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18th Aug '16 8:29:55 AM jmparker78
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* ''Series/StarTrek'' fans can be divided into several distinct groups: Purists, who only will accept the show in its original form, which is to say the classic series and ''only'' the series (the films don't count), classic "Trekkies" who think of the various series as "''Star Trek'' and those newer shows", more modern "Trekkers", who tip the hat to the classic series but think ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' was when ''Trek'' really begins and ends (to the point where some [[CanonDiscontinuity deny that the other spin-offs are even canon]]), "Niners", who think the [[DarkerAndEdgier grit]] of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' made it the best, proclaim Ira Stephen Behr to be [[MyRealDaddy the true heir to Roddenberry's throne]] and even suggest that [[FallenCreator Roddenberry's vision for ''Trek'' wasn't all it was cracked up to be]]...and finally those that just like anything with the name "''Star Trek'' in its title.
** A smaller, but incredibly vocal minority, swear off anything produced after [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight Gene Roddenberry]] died, because nothing can be canon if Roddenberry wasn't around to put his seal of approval on it. These people apparently do not realize that Roddenberry only had direct creative input for the first two seasons of the classic series, the first theatrical film and the first season of TNG. Also, contrary to popular belief, Roddenberry never claimed any of the films or TV shows to be apocryphal.

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* ''Series/StarTrek'' fans can be divided into several distinct groups: Purists, who only will accept the show in its original form, which is to say the classic series and ''only'' the series (the films don't count), classic "Trekkies" who think of the various series as "''Star Trek'' and those newer shows", more modern "Trekkers", who tip the hat to the classic series but think ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' was when ''Trek'' really begins and ends (to the point where some [[CanonDiscontinuity deny that the other spin-offs are even canon]]), "Niners", who think the [[DarkerAndEdgier grit]] of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' made it the best, proclaim Ira Stephen Behr to be [[MyRealDaddy the true heir to Roddenberry's throne]] and even suggest that [[FallenCreator Roddenberry's vision for ''Trek'' wasn't all it was cracked up to be]]...and finally those that just like anything with the name "''Star Trek'' Trek''" in its title.
** A smaller, but incredibly vocal minority, swear off anything produced after [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight Gene Roddenberry]] died, because nothing can be canon if Roddenberry wasn't around to put his seal of approval on it. These people apparently do not realize that Roddenberry only had direct creative input for the first two seasons of the classic series, the first theatrical film and the first season of TNG. Also, contrary to popular belief, Roddenberry never claimed any For that matter, if it's his seal of approval they're concerned about, then none of the films or TV shows beyond ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'' are canon, as Roddenberry didn't like the direction Harve Bennett took with them, particularly the [[Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier fifth]] and [[StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry sixth]] films. This led to the widespread belief that Roddenberry had declared ''Star Trek V'' and ''VI'' to be apocryphal.non-canon, which he never did.
15th Aug '16 12:37:51 PM jmparker78
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* ''Series/StarTrek'' fans can be divided into several distinct groups: {{Purists}}, who only will accept the show in its original form, which is to say the classic series and ''only'' the series (the films don't count), classic "Trekkies" who think of the various series as "''Star Trek'' and those newer shows", more modern "Trekkers", who tip the hat to the classic series but think ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' was when ''Trek'' really begins and ends (to the point where some [[CanonDiscontinuity deny that the other spin-offs are even canon]]), "Niners", who think the [[DarkerAndEdgier grit]] of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' made it the best, proclaim Ira Stephen Behr to be [[MyRealDaddy the true heir to Roddenberry's throne]] and even suggest that [[FallenCreator Roddenberry's vision for ''Trek'' wasn't all it was cracked up to be]]...and finally those that just like anything with the name "''Star Trek'' in its title.

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* ''Series/StarTrek'' fans can be divided into several distinct groups: {{Purists}}, Purists, who only will accept the show in its original form, which is to say the classic series and ''only'' the series (the films don't count), classic "Trekkies" who think of the various series as "''Star Trek'' and those newer shows", more modern "Trekkers", who tip the hat to the classic series but think ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' was when ''Trek'' really begins and ends (to the point where some [[CanonDiscontinuity deny that the other spin-offs are even canon]]), "Niners", who think the [[DarkerAndEdgier grit]] of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' made it the best, proclaim Ira Stephen Behr to be [[MyRealDaddy the true heir to Roddenberry's throne]] and even suggest that [[FallenCreator Roddenberry's vision for ''Trek'' wasn't all it was cracked up to be]]...and finally those that just like anything with the name "''Star Trek'' in its title.
15th Aug '16 12:37:14 PM jmparker78
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* ''Series/StarTrek'' fans can be divided into several distinct groups: {{Purists}}, who only will accept the show in its original form, which is to say the classic series and ''only'' the series (the films don't count), classic "Trekkies" who think of the various series as "''Star Trek'' and those newer shows", more modern "Trekkers", who tip the hat to the classic series but think ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' was when ''Trek'' really begins and ends (to the point where some [[CanonDiscontinuity deny that the other spin-offs are even canon]]), "Niners", who think the [[DarkerAndEdgier grit]] of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' made it the best, proclaim Ira Stephen Behr to be [[MyRealDaddy the true heir to Roddenberry's throne]] and even suggest that [[FallenCreator Roddenberry's vision for ''Trek'' wasn't all it was cracked up to be]]...and finally those that just like anything with the name "''Star Trek'' in its title.
** A smaller, but incredibly vocal minority, swear off anything produced after [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight Gene Roddenberry]] died, because nothing can be canon if Roddenberry wasn't around to put his seal of approval on it. These people apparently do not realize that Roddenberry only had direct creative input for the first two seasons of the classic series, the first theatrical film and the first season of TNG. Also, contrary to popular belief, Roddenberry never claimed any of the films or TV shows to be apocryphal.
1st Aug '16 12:46:58 PM StFan
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* The YouTube series "Everything Wrong with...", produced by Cinema Sins, has a tendency to include everything that bothered the reviewer, ranging from plot holes and continuity errors, to debatable aesthetic choices such as the use of voiceover, to the reviewer's pet peeves, like his opinion that characters eating apples "makes them look like assholes".

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* The YouTube Website/YouTube series "Everything Wrong with...", produced by Cinema Sins, WebVideo/CinemaSins, has a tendency to include everything that bothered the reviewer, ranging from plot holes and continuity errors, to debatable aesthetic choices such as the use of voiceover, to the reviewer's pet peeves, like his opinion that characters eating apples "makes them look like assholes".



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* Within pinball communities themselves, there are some hardline [[Creator/MidwayGames Bally-Williams]] fans who think that the only reason Creator/{{Stern}} is still in business is because they can talk big to clueless operators and because they can secure attractive modern licenses like ''Series/GameOfThrones'' and ''Film/TheAvengers''. Nevermind that there are plenty of pinball fans who genuinely like what Stern makes, and that Creator/DataEast did exactly what the Stern-haters described (very good licenses, but shoddy build quality and rushed programming) only to go out of business after several years.

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* Within pinball communities themselves, there are some hardline [[Creator/MidwayGames Bally-Williams]] fans who think that the only reason Creator/{{Stern}} is still in business is because they can talk big to clueless operators and because they can secure attractive modern licenses like ''Series/GameOfThrones'' and ''Film/TheAvengers''.''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. Nevermind that there are plenty of pinball fans who genuinely like what Stern makes, and that Creator/DataEast did exactly what the Stern-haters described (very good licenses, but shoddy build quality and rushed programming) only to go out of business after several years.



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26th Jul '16 7:28:08 PM LaughingGiraffe
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* The YouTube series "Cinema Sins" has a tendency to include everything that bothered the reviewer, ranging from plot holes and continuity errors, to debatable aesthetic choices such as the use of voiceover, to the reviewer's pet peeves, like his opinion that characters eating apples "makes them look like assholes".

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* The YouTube series "Cinema Sins" "Everything Wrong with...", produced by Cinema Sins, has a tendency to include everything that bothered the reviewer, ranging from plot holes and continuity errors, to debatable aesthetic choices such as the use of voiceover, to the reviewer's pet peeves, like his opinion that characters eating apples "makes them look like assholes".
26th Jul '16 6:28:36 PM LaughingGiraffe
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* The YouTube series "Cinema Sins" has a tendency to include everything that bothered the reviewer, ranging from plot holes and continuity errors, to debatable aesthetic choices such as the use of voiceover, to the reviewer's pet peeves, like his opinion that characters eating apples "makes them look like assholes".
25th Jul '16 7:51:12 PM ZombieAladdin
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* A strange case with {{pinball}}: Almost all pinball fans know that video games have completely overtaken pinball in popularity, leaving pinball a niche. However, what video games are popular is a big source of confusion for them, as many of them do not follow (or, in more extreme cases, they'll avoid) any news on video games. The result is a lot of them having ''no idea'' what video games are popular to real-life cases of PacManFever thinking that kids today are still playing ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'' and ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' (vanilla). That being said, pinball nowadays is consumed largely by middle-aged men, who would mostly socialize with other middle-aged men and be largely unaware of what people younger than they are would be into.


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* Almost all pinball fans know that video games have completely overtaken pinball in popularity, leaving pinball a niche. However, what video games are popular is a big source of confusion for them, as many of them do not follow (or, in more extreme cases, they'll avoid) any news on video games. The result is a lot of them having ''no idea'' what video games are popular to real-life cases of PacManFever thinking that kids today are still playing ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'' and ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' (vanilla). A lot of these fans are left scratching their heads as to what exactly it was that allowed video game companies to completely take their thunder. That being said, pinball nowadays is consumed largely by middle-aged men, who would mostly socialize with other middle-aged men and be largely unaware of what people younger than they are would be into.
* Within pinball communities themselves, there are some hardline [[Creator/MidwayGames Bally-Williams]] fans who think that the only reason Creator/{{Stern}} is still in business is because they can talk big to clueless operators and because they can secure attractive modern licenses like ''Series/GameOfThrones'' and ''Film/TheAvengers''. Nevermind that there are plenty of pinball fans who genuinely like what Stern makes, and that Creator/DataEast did exactly what the Stern-haters described (very good licenses, but shoddy build quality and rushed programming) only to go out of business after several years.
* Pinball also has an inverted case of Opinion Myopia: Many of the most-liked games, like ''Pinball/MedievalMadness'', ''Pinball/CactusCanyon'', ''Pinball/CirqusVoltaire'', and ''Pinball/MonsterBash'', were actually very poor sellers, but that fact only ever comes up when someone wants to buy one of these machines in the used market. If someone not familiar with pinball were to go to a message board or social media group about pinball, they might think these were some of the most common machines made because of how they dominate discussion and how people talk like everyone has played them.
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25th Jul '16 7:32:46 PM ZombieAladdin
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* It does not take much searching around online to find remarks about how high-profile children's movies like ''Film/TheSmurfs'', ''Film/AlvinAndTheChipmunks'', and ''Film/{{Minions}}'' will cause financial harm to the studios that make them because of their perceived unwatchability. They do not realize that these movies are very well-liked by kids, which is why they can have such a high profile in the first place.



* Intimacy is a major one with some people. For instance, people who are social butterflies tend to have difficulty comprehending how anyone could [[LonersAreFreaks actually enjoy being alone]]. Likewise, people who crave hugs and/or other intimate forms of affection tend to believe that, deep down inside, ''everyone'' craves that type of affection.

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* Intimacy is a major one with some people. For instance, people who are social butterflies tend to have difficulty comprehending how anyone could [[LonersAreFreaks actually enjoy being alone]]. Likewise, people who crave hugs and/or other intimate forms of affection tend to believe that, deep down inside, ''everyone'' craves that type of affection. Some do not even know what introversion is, as the thought that some people prefer being by themselves has never once occurred to them (or they never took the thought seriously).
* A strange case with {{pinball}}: Almost all pinball fans know that video games have completely overtaken pinball in popularity, leaving pinball a niche. However, what video games are popular is a big source of confusion for them, as many of them do not follow (or, in more extreme cases, they'll avoid) any news on video games. The result is a lot of them having ''no idea'' what video games are popular to real-life cases of PacManFever thinking that kids today are still playing ''VideoGame/DonkeyKong'' and ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' (vanilla). That being said, pinball nowadays is consumed largely by middle-aged men, who would mostly socialize with other middle-aged men and be largely unaware of what people younger than they are would be into.
26th Jun '16 12:06:21 AM sparkles38
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* The general feedback loop of 'Oh my God, grown men like ''WesternAnimation/{{My Little Pony|Friendship Is Magic}}'' now?!'/'Yeah, we like ''My Little Pony'' now, what are you gonna do about it?' has led many [[PeripheryDemographic bronies]] to forget that the show has just as many fans in its target demographic (that is, small children, especially of the female variety) as it does grown men and women, which occasionally causes friction when people who ''haven't'' forgotten this ask them to try and make their... [[RuleThirtyFour not quite]] [[DarkerAndEdgier work safe]] material a little less accessible for the young'uns. Which has apparently led to the newly-penned "Brony Pledge", which is less a "pledge" and more of a "stern reminder from one of us to the rest of you". Which, admittedly, is in and of itself rather more decorum than one usually sees from fandoms that have an excess of RuleThirtyFour.

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* The general feedback loop of 'Oh my God, grown men like ''WesternAnimation/{{My Little Pony|Friendship Is Magic}}'' now?!'/'Yeah, we like ''My Little Pony'' now, what are you gonna do about it?' has led many [[PeripheryDemographic bronies]] to forget that the show has just as many fans in its target demographic (that is, small children, especially of the female variety) as it does grown men and women, women (and small boys, although this is generally ignored), which occasionally causes friction when people who ''haven't'' forgotten this ask them to try and make their... [[RuleThirtyFour not quite]] [[DarkerAndEdgier work safe]] material a little less accessible for the young'uns. Which has apparently led to the newly-penned "Brony Pledge", which is less a "pledge" and more of a "stern reminder from one of us to the rest of you". Which, admittedly, is in and of itself rather more decorum than one usually sees from fandoms that have an excess of RuleThirtyFour.
24th Jun '16 8:41:08 PM fierystage
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* There is a tendency for a VocalMinority of trans people on the internet to assume everyone is as well read on the subject as them, or they must be a bigot. People who, for instance, insist on the use of the term 'cis' by non-trans people, without thinking that this kind of controlling behaviour would be considered oppressive if it was directed at them. Fortunately, the majority of trans people are laidback about the subject.
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