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24th Jul '16 10:38:34 AM totoofze47
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* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' series has this in spades. A usual pattern is visiting a new area, finding something wrong with the local environment, slaying the boss monster inhabiting the nearest temple, and collecting your reward from the grateful townspeople when their lake is refilled, their mountain quits erupting, their well quits sending out shadows to stalk them at night ...
** But averted in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime''. You kill the spider that lives in the Deku tree, but it's too late to save the tree...

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* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'':
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series has this in spades. A usual pattern is visiting a new area, finding something wrong with the local environment, slaying the boss monster inhabiting the nearest temple, and collecting your reward from the grateful townspeople when their lake is refilled, their mountain quits erupting, their well quits sending out shadows to stalk them at night ...
** But averted in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime''. You kill the spider that lives in the Deku tree, but it's too late to save the tree... Said tree knew this all along, but tasked Link with ridding him of his curse anyway to see if Link was worthy of being the hero Hyrule needs.
22nd Jul '16 9:18:56 PM Gamermaster
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** Averted at the beginning of the season when Nanoha gets her Linker Core drained while charging [[WaveMotionGun Starlight Breaker]] and she still manages to fire the spell ''while Shamal's arm is still in her chest''.
20th Jul '16 12:09:31 AM Karxrida
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* ''FanFic/TheDragonAndTheSongstress'': The curse inflicted on Aqua goes away after the sorcerer that inflicted it is killed.
17th Jul '16 12:17:35 PM TheNerevarine
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* In ''Film/TheForsaken'', vampirism as a virus transmitted by the titular eight master vampires, each with their own unique strain. The protagonists of the film were infected by the virus and are seeking to destroy one of the Forsaken, so they can be cured. [[spoiler: At the end they succeed, but one of the heroes remains infected as it turns out that was not the original vampire who infected him, so his search still continues.]]
9th Jul '16 6:07:13 PM Emperor_Oshron
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* ''Film/TheMummyReturns'': the Scorpion King dying causes the Anubian Army to turn to dust.

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* ''Film/TheMummyReturns'': Subversion. It ''appears'' that the Scorpion King dying causes the Anubian Army of Anubis to turn to dust. dust, but it's actually that they've been banished to the underworld by [[spoiler:O'Connell]], who gained control of them when he killed the Scorpion King.
9th Jul '16 10:56:52 AM nombretomado
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* Massively averted by the TabletopGame/{{Nobilis}}, who exist in Celestial time and are mostly immune to the effects of mundane time. You can travel to before a Noble was born and kill her parents...and all you'll do is piss her off. Mundane history now says she was never born, sure, but she still exists, because she she was Ennobled before you tried to erase her.

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* Massively averted by the TabletopGame/{{Nobilis}}, who in''TabletopGame/{{Nobilis}}'', where they exist in Celestial time and are mostly immune to the effects of mundane time. You can travel to before a Noble was born and kill her parents...and all you'll do is piss her off. Mundane history now says she was never born, sure, but she still exists, because she she was Ennobled before you tried to erase her.



* ''{{Franchise/BIONICLE}}'''s [[MaskOfPower Kanohi Mohtrek]] toyed with the trope. It's essentially a mask that creates duplicates of the user, but with a twist: the duplicates are actually the user's past selves, plucked out of the timeline into the present. Then they fight or some stuff. When the mask is turned off, the duplicates return to their original time, and will have no recollection of the future events they "just" witnessed. What the mask doesn't undo is physical damage, however. So whenever a past-self is summoned into battle and gets battered and weakened, he/she will return in ''that'' state to his/her timeline, but won't know how he/she suddenly got weakened and bruised.

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* ''{{Franchise/BIONICLE}}'''s ''{{Toys/BIONICLE}}'''s [[MaskOfPower Kanohi Mohtrek]] toyed with the trope. It's essentially a mask that creates duplicates of the user, but with a twist: the duplicates are actually the user's past selves, plucked out of the timeline into the present. Then they fight or some stuff. When the mask is turned off, the duplicates return to their original time, and will have no recollection of the future events they "just" witnessed. What the mask doesn't undo is physical damage, however. So whenever a past-self is summoned into battle and gets battered and weakened, he/she will return in ''that'' state to his/her timeline, but won't know how he/she suddenly got weakened and bruised.
9th Jul '16 9:35:55 AM nombretomado
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* Averted and lampshaded in ''TheAquabatsSuperShow'' episode "The Floating Eye of Death!". The titular eye turns several people into zombies, and Jimmy the Robot is actually rather surprised when they don't go back to normal after he destroys it.

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* Averted and lampshaded in ''TheAquabatsSuperShow'' ''Series/TheAquabatsSuperShow'' episode "The Floating Eye of Death!". The titular eye turns several people into zombies, and Jimmy the Robot is actually rather surprised when they don't go back to normal after he destroys it.
15th Jun '16 4:13:31 AM Mattwo
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** ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' does this as well.

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** ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' does this as well.well, with occasional LampshadeHanging.
* Played straight in Series/HikoninSentaiAkibaranger but is usually justified due to the [[MonsterOfTheWeek monsters of the week]] being mere delusions. [[spoiler: Until the delusions manage to cross into reality that is...]]
29th May '16 10:47:08 AM nighttrainfm
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** In the episode "Heart," whether or not werewolves are subject to ontological inertia is actually a central plot point. [[spoiler:Sam and Dean haven't seen a werewolf "since [they] were kids" (and presumably didn't actually participate in that hunt). Their father had a theory that if the werewolf who bit and turned another was killed, said other werewolf would turn back to a normal human. They test said theory. It doesn't work]].

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** In the episode "Heart," whether or not werewolves are subject to ontological inertia is actually a central plot point. [[spoiler:Sam and Dean haven't seen a werewolf "since [they] were kids" (and presumably didn't actually participate in that hunt). Their father had a theory that if the werewolf who bit and turned another was killed, said other werewolf would turn back to a normal human. They test said theory. It doesn't work]].work.]]



** Similar case with the NighInvulnerable [[spoiler: Leviathans]]. They don't die, however with their leader [[spoiler: Dick Roman]] dead they have become "normal" monsters albeit extremely hard to kill. At least according to Crowley.
* Averted in ''Series/BigWolfOnCampus'' when a medusa turns Merton to stone. The medusa is defeated, but Merton can't be changed back without Tommy and Lori going through an arduous process to obtain a special potion. Also, defeating the evil librarian (don't ask) doesn't save the people trapped in her books. [[spoiler:Reading the books does though]].

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** Similar case with the NighInvulnerable [[spoiler: Leviathans]]. Leviathans.]] They don't die, however with their leader [[spoiler: Dick Roman]] dead they have become "normal" monsters albeit extremely hard to kill. At least according to Crowley.
* Averted in ''Series/BigWolfOnCampus'' when a medusa turns Merton to stone. The medusa is defeated, but Merton can't be changed back without Tommy and Lori going through an arduous process to obtain a special potion. Also, defeating the evil librarian (don't ask) doesn't save the people trapped in her books. [[spoiler:Reading the books does though]].does, though.]]
28th May '16 6:49:32 PM nombretomado
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** The PlayStation version adds to the confusion with an additional ending cutscene which features a human Glenn, which plays whether or not you killed Magus.
** The NintendoDS version adds one more ending that may avert the issue of Magus dying of old age in 12000BC: [[spoiler: Instead, he's killed by the Time Devourer outside time.]]

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** The PlayStation UsefulNotes/PlayStation version adds to the confusion with an additional ending cutscene which features a human Glenn, which plays whether or not you killed Magus.
** The NintendoDS UsefulNotes/NintendoDS version adds one more ending that may avert the issue of Magus dying of old age in 12000BC: [[spoiler: Instead, he's killed by the Time Devourer outside time.]]
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