Aralith: Removed the bit about the tree falling in the woods, because it's totally wrong. Trees falling in the woods with no one around to hear them do NOT make sounds. They make sound waves, sure, but sound waves are just pressure differences within the atmosphere. It takes the brain/ear combo of a living creature to receive and translate these waves into actual sound. Bottom line, sound itself requires a receptor to exist, which the proverbial tree scenario just doesn't have.
Westrim
09:15:22 AM Jun 1st 2010
...What? No, wait, WHAT!?
FastEddie moderator
10:20:30 AM Jun 1st 2010
This is just moving the goalpost. Do the vibrations have existence independent of observation? Yes. Playing semantic games with whether or not the vibrations can be termed 'sound' independent of observation is just wankery.
Aralith
01:54:00 PM Aug 26th 2010
Yeah, sorry. Got a little carried away with this after discussing the topic in length in music theory class one day. It's not really a big deal what the article says about trees falling in woods (especially as that's totally not the point of of the article). I was just, as you put it, wanking.
Actually, now that I look, this was the first link on the Load Bearing Boss page after the quote when I got there. Good catch, though. Next time go ahead and fix it - no need to discuss.