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31st May '16 11:40:53 AM chc232323
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* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanchester%27s_laws Lachester's Laws]], as detailed on TheOtherWiki, explain this trope. In brief, imagine two sides of perfectly equal soldiers. Same training, same capacity, same equipment, same position. One force is larger than the other. Engagements by the two sides can be thought of as exchanges. Every time the smaller force loses a casualty, it also loses a proportionally greater part of its capacity to deal the other side damage. For example, suppose Force A, 100 strong, engages Force B, 1000 strong. Each unit has a 5% chance to cause another to be eliminated during each exchange. B eliminates 50 of A in the first exchange. A eliminates 5. In the next exchange, B's 995 remaining men will likely destroy A, and A can expect to only cause 2-4 more casualties. As a result, A would be eliminated at the cost of less than 10 from B. Numbers count twice, as they add firepower and dilute the ability of the enemy to negate your firepower.
** The math has been greatly simplified, but is not too difficult for those familiar with calculus.
** Because of real-world concerns discussed on TheOtherWiki, the usual formulation is that greater numbers of absolutely equal troops apply an exponent of 1.5 to the superior numbered side's capability, but before the law can be applied, you have to know all the Force Multipliers. These are any and all advantages that make a unit more effective, such as superior equipment, terrain, leadership, training, and so on. For an abstract combat game like many role playing games and wargames, the original exponent of 2 may make more sense.
** Back to Never Splitting the Party, the absence of one character of a four-strong group not only means 1/4 of the group's power is unavailable, but the enemies that would have attacked the missing member now attack the remaining three. Using an exponent of 1.5 in Lanchester's law, the party is at about 65% effectiveness instead of the 75% you might think. Using an exponent of two, missing one member of a four person group leaves the group 56% as effective.
14th May '16 9:39:03 PM Orbiting
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Nebula}}'', Mars and Earth agree that with [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Sun]] being NotHimself, the planets should all stick together for safety, just in case.
30th Apr '16 5:22:04 PM nombretomado
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* Also a frequent issue in ''CaptainPlanet''. By now the kids should ''know'' that they'll need the Captain eventually, and all five of them must be together to summon him. Doesn't stop them from splitting up to try to save the day with their individual powers.

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* Also a frequent issue in ''CaptainPlanet''.''WesternAnimation/{{Captain Planet|and the Planeteers}}''. By now the kids should ''know'' that they'll need the Captain eventually, and all five of them must be together to summon him. Doesn't stop them from splitting up to try to save the day with their individual powers.
31st Mar '16 3:18:22 AM JackG
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* ''Series/PersonOfInterest''. In "If-Then-Else", Team Machine is trapped and the Machine is running [[BulletTime thousands of simulations]] to find a way of them accomplishing their mission and get out alive. We're shown two scenarios in which the team is split, with one group to carry out the mission while the other secures the escape route. [[RuleOfThrees Only the third scenario]] shown, in which Team Machine stays together to give mutual aid and protection, has a chance of success.

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* ''Series/PersonOfInterest''. In "If-Then-Else", Team Machine is trapped and the Machine is running [[BulletTime thousands of simulations]] to find a way of them accomplishing their mission and get out alive. alive. We're shown two scenarios in which the team is split, with one group to carry out the mission while the other secures the escape route.route, that result in them getting killed or captured. [[RuleOfThrees Only the third scenario]] shown, in which Team Machine stays together to give mutual aid and protection, has a chance of success.
31st Mar '16 3:15:43 AM JackG
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* ''Series/PersonOfInterest''. In "If-Then-Else", Team Machine is trapped and the Machine is running [[BulletTime thousands of simulations]] to find a way of them accomplishing their mission and get out alive. We're shown two scenarios in which the team is split, with one group to carry out the mission while the other secures the escape route. [[RuleOfThrees Only the third scenario]] shown, in which Team Machine stays together to give mutual aid and protection, has a chance of success.
20th Mar '16 1:50:49 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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Sometimes it can be taken to indicate at least a minimal level of [[GenreSavvy genre savvyness]], for example, in situations where splitting up means that one group will later have to go find the other group. It's also a clear win in horror films where the monster/killer will pick off each member one by one.

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Sometimes it can be taken to indicate at least a minimal level of [[GenreSavvy genre savvyness]], savviness]], for example, in situations where splitting up means that one group will later have to go find the other group. It's also a clear win in horror films where the monster/killer will pick off each member one by one.
7th Mar '16 11:14:17 AM eroock
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->''Don't you know? You never split the party!\\

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->''Don't ->''"Don't you know? You never split the party!\\



And you never let that damn thief out of sight...''

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And you never let that damn thief out of sight...''"''
7th Mar '16 7:26:24 AM Koveras
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* One of the most memorable moments in ''WebVideo/AcquisitionsIncorporated'' occurs at the climax of season three, where Aoefel, in pursuit of his Oath of Vengeance's target (and the season's [[TheDragon Dragon]]), runs out too far ahead of the rest of the party and falls into an acid pit trap. As he is way too far from them to call for help, they don't even find a corpse by the time they catch up. That was the very last occurrence of party-splitting on the show ever since.
11th Nov '15 3:13:31 AM GravityBone
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* Podcast/DiceFunk: Anne confronts the headmaster alone, much to Rinaldo's frustration.
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29th Oct '15 1:42:59 PM MAI742
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* German's first three campaigns against the USSR during WWII. The Germany Army High Command (OKH), optimistic and impatient to get the war over with, ultimately split its force of 3 million men and 3000 tanks into three Army Groups. These were to pursue three initial goals 500km away and 300km apart (Riga, Smolensk, Kiev), three primary goals 1000km away and 600km apart (Leningrad, Moscow, Rostov-on-Don), and three final goals 1500km away and 1000km apart (Archangelsk, Samara/Kuiybyshev, Baku). Needless to say, by the time they reached the initial goals in July the problems with this approach had become apparent: all three Army Groups were too under-supplied and weak to advance without either stopping offensive operations for at least a month or redistributing forces to concentrate on taking just one or two of the primary goals. The OKH wanted to focus on Moscow alone, for questionable reasons [[note]] its commanders wanted the glory and political clout, it didn't care about the economics of Germany's war effort, and they may have genuinely thought it might win the war (for some reason) [[/note]], arguing that it was possible to capture and hold it with a small force which could be reinforced later. Hitler overruled this hare-brained scheme and did something sensible instead, ordering a campaign to take raw resources necessary for the German economy at Kiev (July-September) and placating the Army to content itself with a questionable advance on Leningrad (August-September). Postwar evaluations of this strategic choice show that the German Army's scheme for taking Moscow was an ''incredibly'' bad idea as it would have entailed a force of just 200,000 men and 1000 tanks attacking a well-entrenched defensive force of more than 500,000 men. Even if they had succeeded, it would have left the German forces in/around Moscow extremely vulnerable to the Winter Counter-Offensive as they would have had at most 500,000 troops to hold a salient less than 200km wide and 500km long against an attacking force of as many as 1.5 million troops attacking from the north and south. Given that Soviet forces were able to advance up to 100km in a single operation in some of the actual winter offensives, this would likely have been nothing short of disastrous. ''Never split the party'' indeed.

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* German's first three campaigns against the USSR during WWII. The Germany Army High Command (OKH), optimistic and impatient to get the war over with, ultimately split its force of 3 million men and 3000 tanks into three Army Groups. These were to pursue three initial goals 500km away and 300km apart (Riga, Smolensk, Kiev), three primary goals 1000km away and 600km apart (Leningrad, Moscow, Rostov-on-Don), and three final goals 1500km away and 1000km apart (Archangelsk, Samara/Kuiybyshev, Baku). Needless to say, by the time they reached the initial goals in July the problems with this approach had become apparent: all three Army Groups were too under-supplied and weak to advance without either stopping offensive operations for at least a month or redistributing forces to concentrate on taking just one or two of the primary goals. The OKH wanted to focus on Moscow alone, for questionable reasons [[note]] its commanders wanted the glory and political clout, it didn't care about the economics of Germany's war effort, and they may have genuinely thought it might win the war (for some reason) [[/note]], arguing that it was possible to capture and hold it with a small force which could be reinforced later. Hitler overruled this hare-brained scheme and did something sensible instead, ordering a campaign to take raw resources necessary for the German economy at Kiev (July-September) and placating the Army to content itself with a questionable advance on Leningrad (August-September). Postwar evaluations of this strategic choice show that the German Army's scheme for taking Moscow was an ''incredibly'' bad idea as it would have entailed a force of just 200,000 men and 1000 tanks attacking a well-entrenched defensive force of more than 500,000 men. Even if they had succeeded, it would have left the German forces in/around Moscow extremely vulnerable to the Winter Counter-Offensive as they would have had at most 500,000 troops to hold a salient less than 200km wide and 500km long against an attacking force of as many as 1.5 million troops attacking from the north and south. Indeed, successfully taking Moscow in the face of heavy Soviet resistance could only have weakened these forces even further than in real life. Given that Soviet forces were able to advance up to 100km in a single operation in some of the actual winter offensives, this an early advance on Moscow would likely have been nothing short of disastrous. ''Never split the party'' indeed.
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