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* ''Anime/{{FullmetalAlchemist'' is vague on whether homunculi are naturally malicious or if they're simply not raised well.
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** The manga implies that all diclonii are some degree of aggressive toward humans no matter how they're raised.
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* Frequently debated in ''LawAndOrder'', to the point where Dr. Olivet said in one episode that she didn't want to rehash the "nature versus nurture wars", saying that both sides were equally right and wrong.
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* Frequently debated in ''LawAndOrder'', ''Series/LawAndOrder'', to the point where Dr. Olivet said in one episode that she didn't want to rehash the "nature versus nurture wars", saying that both sides were equally right and wrong.
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* The entire plot of ''TradingPlaces'' begins when the Duke brothers place a bet on which is true.
* [[OlderThanTheyThink Long before]] ''Trading Places'', two businessmen tested this on Film/TheThreeStooges in "Hoi Polloi".
* [[OlderThanTheyThink Long before]] ''Trading Places'', two businessmen tested this on Film/TheThreeStooges in "Hoi Polloi".
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* The entire plot of ''TradingPlaces'' begins when the Duke brothers place a bet on which is true.
* [[OlderThanTheyThink Long before]] ''Trading Places'', two businessmen tested this on Film/TheThreeStooges in "Hoi Polloi".
* [[OlderThanTheyThink Long before]] ''Trading Places'', two businessmen tested this on Film/TheThreeStooges in "Hoi Polloi".
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* The entire plot of ''TradingPlaces'' begins Frequently debated in ''LawAndOrder'', to the point where Dr. Olivet said in one episode that she didn't want to rehash the "nature versus nurture wars", saying that both sides were equally right and wrong.
* In ''{{CSI}}'', whenthe Duke brothers place engaging in a bet on which nature vs nurture debate, when Catherine Willows argued that people were shaped by their experiences as much as by their genetics, Gil Grissom agreed, saying, "Your DNA is true.
* [[OlderThanTheyThink Long before]] ''Trading Places'', two businessmen tested this on Film/TheThreeStooges in "Hoi Polloi".
what you are, not who you are."
* In ''{{CSI}}'', when
* [[OlderThanTheyThink Long before]] ''Trading Places'', two businessmen tested this on Film/TheThreeStooges in "Hoi Polloi".
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* Roose Bolton in talking with Theon during ''ADanceWithDragons'' openly wonders this about the relationship between his bastard son Ramsay and the first Reek, as Roose doesn't know if Ramsay's depravities were present before he sent Reek to serve him.
-->''Did Reek make Ramsay, or did Ramsay make Reek?''
-->''Did Reek make Ramsay, or did Ramsay make Reek?''
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* In ''Film/ManOfSteel'', Zod is a destructive KnightTemplar but he was bred and raised to be a soldier through [[InTheBlood bloodline]] and [[DesignerBabies genetic]] manipulation and the workings of Kryptonian society. Clark is descended from Kryptonian scientists, but he had a natural conception and birth and was raised by Kansas farmers. Though the film hints at Clark being geeky as a child, he chooses a different career in life which would have been impossible on Krypton.
* In ''Film/ManOfSteel'', Zod is a destructive KnightTemplar but he was bred and raised to be a soldier through [[InTheBlood bloodline]] and [[DesignerBabies genetic]] manipulation and the workings of Kryptonian society. Clark is descended from Kryptonian scientists, but he had a natural conception and birth and was raised by Kansas farmers. Though the film hints at Clark being geeky as a child, he chooses a different career in life which would have been impossible on Krypton.
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** In his ''New52'' incarnation, Superboy is flat out amoral. The group that cloned him outright questions whether his lack of human empathy is due to [[CloningBlues being a clone]], being half alien, or lacking Superman's overall upbringing.
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** In his ''New52'' ''{{New 52}}'' incarnation, Superboy is starts flat out amoral. The group that cloned him outright questions whether his lack of human empathy is due to [[CloningBlues being a clone]], being half alien, or lacking Superman's overall upbringing.
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compassion.
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* In ''OnePiece'', comparisons between Luffy and his various rivals are made throughout the series, notably with Crocodile and Moriah. The latter two became who they are due to a rather screwed-up chain of events, while Luffy remains who he is because he apparently chose to be.
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* ''Franchise/MetalGear'': A recurring theme in the series, Specifically in ''MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', Raiden is contrasted with Solid Snake and his clone brothers. Whereas the Snakes are genetically altered clones of Big Boss, Raiden is a child soldier who was raised by Solidus (one of the Snakes) and then subjected into the [=S3=] Plan, a simulation program meant to train a soldier in Solid Snake's image.
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* [[OlderThanTheyThink Long before]] ''Trading Places'', two businessmen tested this on TheThreeStooges in "Hoi Polloi".
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** Crocodile has a backstory?
*** ''Everyone'' in One Piece has a backstory.
*** ''Everyone'' in One Piece has a backstory.
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* Crops up in the episode "Dragon Quest" of ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', where Spike tries to learn more about being a dragon, but he learns that by nature, dragons are [[AlwaysChaoticEvil destructive and greedy]]. He then learns to embrace being raised by ponies as he has not become like them.
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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'': Exactly how much [[HalfHumanHybrid asari with a non-asari parent]] get from genetics, and how much from upbringing, gets a lot of flip-flopping. The asari claim that mating with non-asari just scrambles the daughter's genes a bit, but the daughter frequently develops traits of the non-asari parent. Matriarch Aethyta had a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy krogan]] father and is kind of a [[GrumpyOldMan Grumpy Old Lady]]. Another minor asari in the second game had a batarian[[labelnote:*]]The batarians are kind of the TokenEvilTeammate of the Citadel races, a totalitarian state that still practices slavery.[[/labelnote]] father and acts rather amoral and mercenary. Then there's Mordin's off-hand remark [[TheCastShowoff in his patter song]] that asari-vorcha offspring have dairy allergies.
* ''Franchise/MassEffect'': Exactly how much [[HalfHumanHybrid asari with a non-asari parent]] get from genetics, and how much from upbringing, gets a lot of flip-flopping. The asari claim that mating with non-asari just scrambles the daughter's genes a bit, but the daughter frequently develops traits of the non-asari parent. Matriarch Aethyta had a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy krogan]] father and is kind of a [[GrumpyOldMan Grumpy Old Lady]]. Another minor asari in the second game had a batarian[[labelnote:*]]The batarians are kind of the TokenEvilTeammate of the Citadel races, a totalitarian state that still practices slavery.[[/labelnote]] father and acts rather amoral and mercenary. Then there's Mordin's off-hand remark [[TheCastShowoff in his patter song]] that asari-vorcha offspring have dairy allergies.
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Everyone knows about some of the fundamental questions to life - [[{{Babylon 5}} who are you, what do you want]], [[FullmetalAlchemist where did you come from, and where will you go]]? Those are the "what" questions, but this is the "why". Why did you say that? Why did you do this? Why were you there?
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Everyone knows about some of the fundamental questions to life - [[{{Babylon 5}} [[Series/BabylonFive who are you, what do you want]], [[FullmetalAlchemist [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist where did you come from, and where will you go]]? Those are the "what" questions, but this is the "why". Why did you say that? Why did you do this? Why were you there?
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* MoreThanMindControl
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* MoreThanMindControl
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At any rate, fiction can have a field day with this, and depending on the writer, it can skew to either side of the argument. UpbringingMakesTheHero is a sub-trope.
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At any rate, fiction can have a field day with this, and depending on the writer, it can skew to either side of the argument. UpbringingMakesTheHero is a sub-trope.argument.
!!Tropes that tend to skew towards "Nature":
* GenerationXerox
* GeneticMemory
* InTheBlood
* LamarckWasRight
!!Tropes that tend to skew towards "Nurture":
* ConditionedToAcceptHorror
* RaisedByNatives
* MoreThanMindControl
* StockholmSyndrome
* UpbringingMakesTheHero
!!Tropes that tend to skew towards "Nature":
* GenerationXerox
* GeneticMemory
* InTheBlood
* LamarckWasRight
!!Tropes that tend to skew towards "Nurture":
* ConditionedToAcceptHorror
* RaisedByNatives
* MoreThanMindControl
* StockholmSyndrome
* UpbringingMakesTheHero
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* In ''{{Sinfest}}'', [[http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2711 Slick blames his upbringing, and then concludes that doesn't change his character.]]
* In ''{{Sinfest}}'', [[http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2711 Slick blames his upbringing, and then concludes that doesn't change his character.]]
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* IsaacAsimov used this with regards to robots, of all beings, in the short story compilation/narrative ''[[Literature/IRobot I, Robot]]'', by comparing physically and [[ArtificialIntelligence positronically]] identical robots who developed with different frames of reference (generally resulting in [[InstantAIJustAddWater aberrant behavior]]).
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* IsaacAsimov Creator/IsaacAsimov used this with regards to robots, of all beings, in the short story compilation/narrative ''[[Literature/IRobot I, Robot]]'', by comparing physically and [[ArtificialIntelligence positronically]] identical robots who developed with different frames of reference (generally resulting in [[InstantAIJustAddWater aberrant behavior]]).
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*** ''Everyone'' has a backstory.
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*** ''Everyone'' in One Piece has a backstory.
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* In ''ElfenLied'', a point is made about whether or not the diclonii really are malicious, or if their cruelty is a byproduct of how they were raised. Lucy appears to be the latter; Mariko appears to be the former.
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* In ''ElfenLied'', a point is made about whether or not the diclonii really are malicious, or if their cruelty is a byproduct of how they were raised. Lucy appears to be the latter; Mariko appears to be the former. Note that neither side is plausible in the manga.
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Innate qualities and personal experiences both play an important part in determining or causing individual differences in physical and behavioral traits, but this raises the question - which was more 'responsible' for such traits? Were these AbusiveParents abused themselves, and take that out on their own kids, or were they always malicious to begin with? Is the concept of free will (i.e. truly independent thought and truly independent decision-making) valid, or are your decisions brain-made "echoes"? Are your personalities determined more by genes, are they influenced your own experiences, or are they made so that your personality truly is unique?
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Innate qualities and personal experiences both play an important part in determining or causing individual differences in physical and behavioral traits, but this raises the question - which was more 'responsible' for such traits? Were these AbusiveParents abused themselves, and take that out on their own kids, or were they always malicious to begin with? Is the concept of free will (i.e. truly independent thought and truly independent decision-making) valid, or are your decisions brain-made "echoes"? Are your personalities [[InTheBlood determined more by genes, genes]], are they influenced your own experiences, or are they made so that your personality truly is unique?
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* In ''OnePiece'', comparisons between Luffy and his various rivals are made throughout the series, notably with Crocodile and Moriah. The latter two became who they are due to a rather screwed-up chain of events, while Luffy remains who he is because he apparently chose as much.
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** There's a lot of InTheBlood going around, in that Sasuke's family has a long habit of choosing 'power' over 'strength' that supposedly goes back to the ancient founder of their clan, the elder son of the Sage of the Six Paths. Doujutsu and sociopathy apparently have a causal link, though not an inescapable one.
** On the other hand, Gaara apparently had [[spoiler: a very loving mother]] and a cold bastard of a father, and to compicate matter was ''raised'' by an uncle who was very kind and looked just like his mother. And was also ANBU and accepted the mission of [[ContractKillers making a hit]] on the six-year-old boy he'd raised, [[spoiler: in order to test his emotional resilience. The zombie of Gaara's father acknowledges this as a flawed methodology.]]
** And despite never knowing them, Naruto is just like both his parents.
* In ''OnePiece'', comparisons between Luffy and his various rivals are made throughout the series, notably with Crocodile and Moriah. The latter two became who they are due to a rather screwed-up chain of events, while Luffy remains who he is because he apparently chose to be.
** Crocodile has a backstory?
* The ''{{Akumetsu}}'' are several dozen clones made from an extremely evil guy asmuch.
part of a project to assure his immortality, all separated as infants and raised in may households across Japan, all under the first name Shou and all but one unaware of the others. They are nothing like their original DNA donor, apart from a possibly-related mad indifference to normality. They are, however, so much like ''one another'' they very nearly have a HiveMind within a weeks or even days of banding together.
** I.e., both sides of this trope are being used and abused with reckless abandon.
** Note that they did start swapping important memories around pretty early, though not many. To a certain extent they all imprinted on the Shou who inspired the whole Akumetsu project, but even before that they were so alike it's creepy, and honestly that Shou is less like the others than any of them.
** On the other hand, Gaara apparently had [[spoiler: a very loving mother]] and a cold bastard of a father, and to compicate matter was ''raised'' by an uncle who was very kind and looked just like his mother. And was also ANBU and accepted the mission of [[ContractKillers making a hit]] on the six-year-old boy he'd raised, [[spoiler: in order to test his emotional resilience. The zombie of Gaara's father acknowledges this as a flawed methodology.]]
** And despite never knowing them, Naruto is just like both his parents.
* In ''OnePiece'', comparisons between Luffy and his various rivals are made throughout the series, notably with Crocodile and Moriah. The latter two became who they are due to a rather screwed-up chain of events, while Luffy remains who he is because he apparently chose to be.
** Crocodile has a backstory?
* The ''{{Akumetsu}}'' are several dozen clones made from an extremely evil guy as
** I.e., both sides of this trope are being used and abused with reckless abandon.
** Note that they did start swapping important memories around pretty early, though not many. To a certain extent they all imprinted on the Shou who inspired the whole Akumetsu project, but even before that they were so alike it's creepy, and honestly that Shou is less like the others than any of them.
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** TimeTravel stories invoking ForWantOfANail and ButterflyOfDoom.ButterflyOfDoom.
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