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15th Oct '17 5:11:05 AM Minni128
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*A more mundane of this and the InTheBlood trope happens in a poem titled, ''In the Blood'', where the subject wonders if she was born cruel and aggressive or if she learned to be those things.
1st Oct '17 11:46:11 AM Malady
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* In ''Manga/ElfenLied'', a point is made about whether or not the diclonii really are malicious, or if their cruelty is a byproduct of how they were raised. Lucy appears to be the latter; Mariko appears to be the former. Note that neither side is plausible in the manga. The manga implies that all diclonii are some degree of aggressive toward humans no matter how they're raised.

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* In ''Manga/ElfenLied'', a point is made about whether or not the diclonii really are malicious, or if their cruelty is a byproduct of how they were raised. Lucy appears to be the latter; Mariko appears to be the former. Note that neither side is plausible in the manga. The manga implies that all diclonii are some degree of aggressive toward humans no matter how they're raised.



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14th Aug '17 12:16:05 PM JJHIL325
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* One of the major differences that makes the ''Fanfic/AftermathOfTheGames'' universe an AU to the MLP:FIM Canon is that Twilight ends up in charge of raising a filly version of Starlight Glimmer because [[spoiler: unlike her canon counterpart, Starlight [[RedemptionRejection refused to surrender and atone for her actions]] during "The Cutie Re-Mark", so Twilight [[ShootTheDog was left with no choice]] but to [[{{Retgone}} wipe her out of existence]] by convincing the nine-year-old Starlight to run away from her OrphanageOfFear and become her apprentice]]. Twilight and everybody in the know about the filly's origins agrees that part of the reason why the original Starlight became a major psychopath was because spending her entire foal hood in an abusive orphanage prevented her from learning how to connect properly with other ponies, so they take extra care to raise her in a loving enviroment and build her a large support network of ponies that she's able to trust so she gets on the right path. However, because mental illnesses are a mix of both genetics and upbringing, [[RealityEnsues Starlight demonstrates early warning signs of her older self's equalistic and fanatical behavior]] during ''Integration'', and Twilight fears the possibility that nothing she can do will make a difference.

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* One of the major differences that makes plot points in the ''Fanfic/AftermathOfTheGames'' universe an AU to the MLP:FIM Canon is that Twilight ends up in charge of raising a filly version of Starlight Glimmer because [[spoiler: unlike her canon counterpart, Starlight [[RedemptionRejection refused to surrender and atone for her actions]] during "The Cutie Re-Mark", so Twilight [[ShootTheDog was left with no choice]] but to [[{{Retgone}} wipe her out of existence]] by convincing the nine-year-old Starlight to run away from her OrphanageOfFear and become her apprentice]]. Twilight and everybody in the know about the filly's origins agrees that part of the reason why the original Starlight became a major psychopath was because spending her entire foal hood in an abusive orphanage prevented her from learning how to connect properly with other ponies, so they take extra care to raise her in a loving enviroment and build her a large support network of ponies that she's able to trust so she gets on the right path. However, because mental illnesses are a mix of both genetics and upbringing, [[RealityEnsues Starlight demonstrates early warning signs of her older self's equalistic and fanatical behavior]] during ''Integration'', and Twilight fears the possibility that nothing she can do will make a difference.
23rd Jun '17 12:15:04 PM VulgarBee
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** A prominent theme in the [[Recap/OnePieceWholeCakeIslandArc Whole Cake Island]] arc. Both [[spoiler:Sanji]] and [[spoiler:Big Mom]] were shown to have some very troubling pasts, yet the people they are today was the result of different circumstances. [[spoiler:Sanji]] was bullied horrifically as a kid by his brother and father and locked away to rot. But thanks to the actions of his mother, Reiju and later [[spoiler:Zeff]], he became a kind hearted person who became strong enough to be one of the toughest pirates around and defend those he cares about. In contrast, [[soiler:Big Mom]] was abandoned by her parents due to her abnormal strenght, the inital person who did raise here was nothing more then a BitchInSheepsClothing using her for her own ends and the person after her seeing her as a meal ticket, with both encouraging her destructive behavior and turning [[spoiler:Big Mom]] into a literal monster. What's more, these are traits [[spoiler:Big Mom]] showcases to her own family who would sooner stab each other in the back then help one another unless [[spoiler:Big Mom]] commands it. [[spoiler:Pudding]] is more or less the middle ground with this, like [[spoiler:Sanji]], she was bullied as a kid and Big Mom didn't do anything to deter it, so she became evil as a result. However when actually shown true kindness, this causes a breakdown because ''no one'' showed real compassion to her before. Leaving her in a state of confusion at a critical moment.
14th Jun '17 10:38:02 PM Getta
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15th May '17 8:25:08 AM Basara-kun
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22nd Apr '17 1:46:08 PM Gosicrystal
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Innate qualities and personal experiences both play an important part in determining or causing individual differences in physical and behavioral traits, but this raises the question - which was more 'responsible' for such traits? Were these AbusiveParents abused themselves, and take that out on their own kids, or were they always malicious to begin with? Is the concept of free will (i.e. truly independent thought and truly independent decision-making) valid, or are your decisions brain-made "echoes"? Are your personalities [[InTheBlood determined more by genes]], are they influenced your own experiences, or are they made so that your personality truly is unique? Currently, scientists tend to think they both have about equal influences.

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Innate qualities and personal experiences both play an important part in determining or causing individual differences in physical and behavioral traits, but this raises the question - which was more 'responsible' for such traits? Were these AbusiveParents abused themselves, and take that out on their own kids, or were they always malicious to begin with? Is the concept of free will (i.e. truly independent thought and truly independent decision-making) valid, or are your decisions brain-made "echoes"? Are your personalities [[InTheBlood determined more by genes]], are they influenced by your own experiences, or are they made so that your personality truly is unique? Currently, scientists tend to think they both have about equal influences.
8th Mar '17 9:14:08 PM JMQwilleran
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-->'''Eiko''': Come on, Zidane! Why are you doing this!?
-->'''Zidane''': Because... Because I might've done the same thing if I were in his shoes. I probably would've fought against you guys and wreaked havoc in Gaia like he did... I know it sounds crazy... ...but I know, deep down inside, I have to do this.
8th Mar '17 9:11:48 PM JMQwilleran
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* The idea is present in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX''. Zidane decides to try to rescue Kuja at the end of the game, stating that had things turned out differently, he could have ended up like him. Both of them were created and manipulated by Garland, but Zidane was abandoned on Gaia unaware of his true heritage, while Kuja learned the truth of things and went on a mad rampage. Players of the game are left to wonder if Zidane, who lives by the motto "you don't need a reason to help people," could have ever been like Kuja, given his apparent nature.
5th Dec '16 9:32:42 PM Zaptech
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** Raven, representing Nurture, fully embraced the tribe's [[TheSocialDarwinist Social Darwinist]] ways. She rejoined them as soon as she could and is implied to even be their leader. She has had basically no contact with her Daughter, Yang, and has explicitly told Qrow that she will not save Yang's life again after saving her once in season two, fully believing that if Yang falls in battle, then she deserves to die.

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** Raven, representing Nurture, fully embraced the tribe's [[TheSocialDarwinist Social Darwinist]] ways. She rejoined them as soon as she could and is implied to even be their leader. She has had basically no contact with her Daughter, Yang, and has explicitly told Qrow that she will not save Yang's life again after saving her once in season two, fully believing that if Yang falls in battle, then she deserves to die.
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