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23rd Jan '16 2:43:59 PM merotoker
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** On the other hand, Gaara apparently had [[spoiler: a very loving mother]] and a cold bastard of a father, and to complicate matters was ''raised'' by an uncle who was very kind and looked just like his mother. And was also ANBU and accepted the mission of [[ProfessionalKiller making a hit]] on the six-year-old boy he'd raised, [[spoiler: in order to test his emotional resilience. The zombie of Gaara's father acknowledges this as a flawed methodology.]]
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** On the other hand, Gaara apparently had [[spoiler: a very loving mother]] and a cold bastard of a father, and to complicate matters was ''raised'' by an uncle who was very kind and looked just like his mother. And was also ANBU and accepted the mission of [[ProfessionalKiller making a hit]] on the six-year-old boy he'd raised, [[spoiler: in order to test his emotional resilience. The zombie of Gaara's father acknowledges this as a flawed methodology.]]methodology]].

* It is all but stated in ''Anime/DragonBall'' that Saiyans are naturally ruthless {{Blood Knight}}s who care about little except for fighting. When Goku hit his head and forgot his Saiyan memories, he was raised to be the good person we know by the kind senior Gohan. However, with supplemental material we have seen that they were good Saiyans and Goku's mother was one of them, bring into question if Goku's goodness is genetic as well as nurture.
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* It is all but stated in ''Anime/DragonBall'' ''Franchise/DragonBall'' that Saiyans are naturally ruthless {{Blood Knight}}s who care about little except for fighting. When Goku hit his head and forgot his Saiyan memories, he was raised to be the good person we know by the kind senior Gohan. However, with supplemental material we have seen that they were good Saiyans and Goku's mother was one of them, bring into question if Goku's goodness is genetic as well as nurture.

* Brought up in most depictions of ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'': Superman is [[HumanAlien Kryptonian]], but was raised by kindly old adoptive parents. In older stories, it was usually implied that his superior Kryptonian heritage and abilities were the cause of his strict moral compass, but in latter stories (especially after other, villainous Kryptonians, were introduced), it's outright stated that Superman's upbringing is responsible for creating who he is.
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* Brought up in most depictions of ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'': Superman is [[HumanAlien [[HumanAliens Kryptonian]], but was raised by kindly old adoptive parents. In older stories, it was usually implied that his superior Kryptonian heritage and abilities were the cause of his strict moral compass, but in latter stories (especially after other, villainous Kryptonians, were introduced), it's outright stated that Superman's upbringing is responsible for creating who he is.

** The entire plot of ''Comicbook/JusticeLeague3000'' (which sees the [[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]] "resurrected" in the 31st century) hinges on this. Superman lacks the guiding hand of the Kents and is thus a JerkJock with a massive ego, Batman never suffered the loss of his parents and ''[[ReluctantHero doesn't even wanna be Batman]]'', Wonder Woman is a violent BloodKnight constantly looking for someone to kill, and so on.
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** The entire plot of ''Comicbook/JusticeLeague3000'' (which sees the [[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]] "resurrected" in the 31st century) hinges on this. Superman lacks the guiding hand of the Kents and is thus a JerkJock with a massive ego, Batman never suffered the loss of his parents and ''[[ReluctantHero ''[[IJustWantToBeNormal doesn't even wanna be Batman]]'', Wonder Woman is a violent BloodKnight constantly looking for someone to kill, and so on.

* Discussed in ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' episode ''Scion''. [[spoiler: Clark is worried that Conner (who is a hybrid clone of him and Lex), will embrace the dark side, and he seems to do under the influence of red kryptonite courtesy of Lionel. Once he's free from it, he chooses to side with Clark. At the end of the episode, Clark tells Conner that everyone has a shadow inside, but it doesn't mean you have to embrace it. Lois then comments "Seems to me that Clark Kent's nature ''and'' nurture won out in the end."]]
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* Discussed in ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' episode ''Scion''."Scion". [[spoiler: Clark is worried that Conner (who is a hybrid clone of him and Lex), will embrace the dark side, and he seems to do under the influence of red kryptonite courtesy of Lionel. Once he's free from it, he chooses to side with Clark. At the end of the episode, Clark tells Conner that everyone has a shadow inside, but it doesn't mean you have to embrace it. Lois then comments "Seems to me that Clark Kent's nature ''and'' nurture won out in the end."]]

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23rd Jan '16 9:37:40 AM Specialist290
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11th Jan '16 12:01:16 AM Fireblood
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Innate qualities and personal experiences both play an important part in determining or causing individual differences in physical and behavioral traits, but this raises the question - which was more 'responsible' for such traits? Were these AbusiveParents abused themselves, and take that out on their own kids, or were they always malicious to begin with? Is the concept of free will (i.e. truly independent thought and truly independent decision-making) valid, or are your decisions brain-made "echoes"? Are your personalities [[InTheBlood determined more by genes]], are they influenced your own experiences, or are they made so that your personality truly is unique?
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Innate qualities and personal experiences both play an important part in determining or causing individual differences in physical and behavioral traits, but this raises the question - which was more 'responsible' for such traits? Were these AbusiveParents abused themselves, and take that out on their own kids, or were they always malicious to begin with? Is the concept of free will (i.e. truly independent thought and truly independent decision-making) valid, or are your decisions brain-made "echoes"? Are your personalities [[InTheBlood determined more by genes]], are they influenced your own experiences, or are they made so that your personality truly is unique? unique? Currently, scientists tend to think they both have about equal influences.
16th Nov '15 10:19:15 PM CompletelyNormalGuy
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* A slightly more literal example than usual shows up in [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=933 this strip]] of ''Webcomic/ElGoonishShive'', where Susan receives advice from a GoodAngelBadAngel pair representing her Nature and Nurture. The darker, and more distant Nurture so strongly objects to the bubbly Nature's suggestion that Susan hug Tedd, that she gags Nature to make her shut up. This was one of the clearest illustrations of how much Susan's [[DarkAndTroubledPast difficult past]] affected her.
4th Sep '15 12:39:42 PM FoxBluereaver
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* Discussed in ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' episode ''Scion''. [[spoiler: Clark is worried that Conner (who is a hybrid clone of him and Lex), will embrace the dark side, and he seems to do under the influence of red kryptonite courtesy of Lionel. Once he's free from it, he chooses to side with Clark. At the end of the episode, Clark tells Conner that everyone has a shadow inside, but it doesn't mean you have to embrace it. Lois then comments "Seems to me that Clark Kent's nature ''and'' nurture won out in the end."]]
8th Aug '15 5:59:27 PM eroock
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->'''Hayley''': I dunno. There's that whole nature versus nurture question, isn't it? Was I born a cute, vindictive, little bitch or... did society make me that way? I go back and forth on that...
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->'''Hayley''': I dunno. There's That's that whole nature versus nurture question, isn't it? Was I born a cute, vindictive, little bitch or... did society make me that way? I go back and forth on that...
8th Aug '15 5:06:41 PM eroock
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->'''Jeff''': Ah, so you and your mom are both wacked? ->'''Hayley''': I dunno. There's that whole nature versus nurture question, isn't it? Was I born a cute, vindictive, little bitch or... did society make me that way? I go back and forth on that... -->-- ''Film/HardCandy''
30th Jul '15 5:40:45 AM TrustBen
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* Frequently debated in ''Series/LawAndOrder'', to the point where Dr. Olivet said in one episode that she didn't want to rehash the "nature versus nurture wars", saying that both sides were equally right and wrong.
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* Frequently debated in ''Series/LawAndOrder'', to the point where [[TheShrink Dr. Olivet Olivet]] said in one episode that she didn't want to rehash the "nature versus nurture wars", saying that both sides were equally right and wrong.
26th Jul '15 2:22:35 AM poi99
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The batarians aren't Citadel members.
* ''Franchise/MassEffect'': Exactly how much [[HalfHumanHybrid asari with a non-asari parent]] get from genetics, and how much from upbringing, gets a lot of flip-flopping. The asari claim that mating with non-asari just scrambles the daughter's genes a bit, but the daughter frequently develops traits of the non-asari parent. Matriarch Aethyta had a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy krogan]] father and is kind of a [[GrumpyOldMan Grumpy Old Lady]]. Another minor asari in the second game had a batarian[[labelnote:*]]The batarians are kind of the TokenEvilTeammate of the Citadel races, a totalitarian state that still practices slavery.[[/labelnote]] father and acts rather amoral and mercenary. Then there's Mordin's off-hand remark [[TheCastShowoff in his patter song]] that asari-vorcha offspring have dairy allergies.
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* ''Franchise/MassEffect'': Exactly how much [[HalfHumanHybrid asari with a non-asari parent]] get from genetics, and how much from upbringing, gets a lot of flip-flopping. The asari claim that mating with non-asari just scrambles the daughter's genes a bit, but the daughter frequently develops traits of the non-asari parent. Matriarch Aethyta had a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy krogan]] father and is kind of a [[GrumpyOldMan Grumpy Old Lady]]. Another minor asari in the second game had a batarian[[labelnote:*]]The batarians are kind of the TokenEvilTeammate of the Citadel local races, a totalitarian state that still practices slavery.[[/labelnote]] father and acts rather amoral and mercenary. Then there's Mordin's off-hand remark [[TheCastShowoff in his patter song]] that asari-vorcha offspring have dairy allergies.
24th Jul '15 4:39:23 PM nombretomado
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* ''Franchise/MetalGear'': A recurring theme in the series, Specifically in ''MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', Raiden is contrasted with Solid Snake and his clone brothers. Whereas the Snakes are genetically altered clones of Big Boss, Raiden is a child soldier who was raised by Solidus (one of the Snakes) and then subjected into the [=S3=] Plan, a simulation program meant to train a soldier in Solid Snake's image.
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* ''Franchise/MetalGear'': A recurring theme in the series, Specifically in ''MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', Raiden is contrasted with Solid Snake and his clone brothers. Whereas the Snakes are genetically altered clones of Big Boss, Raiden is a child soldier who was raised by Solidus (one of the Snakes) and then subjected into the [=S3=] Plan, a simulation program meant to train a soldier in Solid Snake's image.
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