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* Averted in ''ComicBook/{{Loki}}: Agent of Asgard'' where Loki himself admits he writes and publishes fan fics online. Slash fan fics. Which are apparently "the most horrible shalsh upon the Internet".

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* Averted in ''ComicBook/{{Loki}}: ''[[ComicBook/LokiAgentOfAsgard Loki: Agent of Asgard'' Of Asgard]]'' where Loki himself admits he writes and publishes fan fics online. Slash fan fics. Which are apparently "the most horrible shalsh slash upon the Internet".
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The statement I\'m deleting is actually incorrect. There are plenty of statistics show that men\'s literature is represented more than female literature. This includes book reviews in The New York Review of Books, Granta magazine, and other works.


It is important to remember that this is a [[TropesAreTools trope]], not RealLife. Much like MostWritersAreMale is a trope that relies on a background of male-dominated writers but which now is a falsity in an age of equal opportunity, so MostFanficWritersAreGirls is a trope which, although may have been true at some point, is now more of an urban myth (although, like in any fandom or community, the contingent of teenage girls ''do'' tend to be the loudest and most active, for good or evil).

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It is important to remember that this is a [[TropesAreTools trope]], not RealLife. Much like MostWritersAreMale is a trope that relies on a background of male-dominated writers but which now is a falsity in an age of equal opportunity, so MostFanficWritersAreGirls is a trope which, although may have been true at some point, is now more of an urban myth (although, like in any fandom or community, the contingent of teenage girls ''do'' tend to be the loudest and most active, for good or evil).
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* This trope forms part of the main plot in Rainbow Rowell's YA novel ''Fangirl''.
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--> '''Candace:''' Will you guys read my fanfiction?
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* Aeris from ''VGCats'' writes erotic fanfiction about [[FinalFantasyX Tidus and Auron]], has dreams about [[VideoGame/StarFox Fox and Falco]], and likes the idea of a [[VideoGame/Left4Dead hot molotov throbbing in Bill's hand]].

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* Aeris from ''VGCats'' writes erotic fanfiction about [[FinalFantasyX [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX Tidus and Auron]], has dreams about [[VideoGame/StarFox Fox and Falco]], and likes the idea of a [[VideoGame/Left4Dead hot molotov throbbing in Bill's hand]].
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However, as for the on-going interest in fanfiction - and the associated prevalence of this trope - on the one hand, it's certainly no secret that writings with gay characters or gay or [=LGBT=] thematic imagery are significantly marginalized in main stream literature and other media, particularly romance. Fanfic writers often try to fill in this deficit with either alternate universe stories that use well-known characters to attract readers, or trying to alter their favorite works in order to compensate for unexplored potential[[note]]although the quality with which this is done is variable[[/note]]. It hasn't been unknown for published authors to build their confidence and reader base in fanfic or online original works, exploring genres that usually are niche with few opportunities - a particular example of this is in Japan, where well-known manga authors and artists make doujinshi that can be sold in paper-backs without copywrite accusations.

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However, as for the on-going interest in fanfiction - and the associated prevalence of this trope - on the one hand, it's certainly no secret that writings with gay characters or gay or [=LGBT=] thematic imagery are significantly marginalized in main stream literature and other media, particularly romance. Fanfic writers often try to fill in this deficit with either alternate universe stories that use well-known characters to attract readers, or trying to alter their favorite works in order to compensate for unexplored potential[[note]]although the quality with which this is done is variable[[/note]]. It hasn't been unknown for published authors to build their confidence and reader base in fanfic or online original works, exploring genres that usually are niche with few opportunities - a particular example of this is in Japan, where well-known manga authors and artists make doujinshi that can be sold in paper-backs without copywrite copyright accusations.
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* Averted in ''ComicBook/{{Loki}}: Agent of Asgard'' where Loki himself admits he writes and publishes fan fics online. Slash fan fics. Which are apparently "the most horrible shalsh upon the Internet".
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* The new [[MsMarvel2014 Ms. Marvel]], Kamala Khan, writes ''Avengers'' fanfics. Specifically, about their adventures on "Planet Unicorn".
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* Nobuko Yokokawa of ''OjamajoDoremi'' writes stories loosely based on her friends and classmates with her best friend Aiko she idolizes as the MarySue protagonist in most of them. Later joined by the shy artist girl Miho Maruyama, who starts creating similar comics with her. With their stories involving romantic plots with their own self-insert characters along with Aiko's, it results in awkwardly heavy doses of LesYay for a kids' anime.

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* Nobuko Yokokawa of ''OjamajoDoremi'' ''Anime/OjamajoDoremi'' writes stories loosely based on her friends and classmates with her best friend Aiko she idolizes as the MarySue protagonist in most of them. Later joined by the shy artist girl Miho Maruyama, who starts creating similar comics with her. With their stories involving romantic plots with their own self-insert characters along with Aiko's, it results in awkwardly heavy doses of LesYay for a kids' anime.

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* [[PunnyName Harumi Fujiyoshi]] of ''SayonaraZetsubouSensei'' draws {{Doujinshi}} as well -- one of them about her Teacher [[Creator/HiroshiKamiya Itoshiki-sensei]]. As well as a pairing of Apple × Pine when everyone else likes [[IncrediblyLamePun Pine × Apple]] (the characters in question are [[{{Expy}} expies]] of [[YesPrettyCure5 Coco and Nuts]]). In the third series she is seen drawing a ''{{Gundam 00}}'' [[ShoutOut Tieria]] (also voiced by Hiroshi Kamiya) {{Doujinshi}}.

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* [[PunnyName Harumi Fujiyoshi]] of ''SayonaraZetsubouSensei'' draws {{Doujinshi}} as well -- one of them about her Teacher [[Creator/HiroshiKamiya Itoshiki-sensei]]. As well as a pairing of Apple × Pine when everyone else likes [[IncrediblyLamePun Pine × Apple]] (the characters in question are [[{{Expy}} expies]] of [[YesPrettyCure5 Coco and Nuts]]). In the third series she is seen drawing a {{Doujinshi}} starring ''{{Gundam 00}}'' [[ShoutOut 00}}'''s [[ActorAllusion Tieria]] (also voiced by Hiroshi Kamiya) {{Doujinshi}}.HiroshiKamiya).


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* Tsuruko, a CanonForeigner in ''LightNovel/HaiyoreNyarkoSan'''s second season, wrote a {{Yaoi}} {{Doujinshi}} about the series' male lead, Mahiro Yasaka. Her #1 ambition is to meet him face-to-face, blissfully unaware that he was utterly pissed when he found out about the Doujin and in fact [[KillItWithFire bought a copy just to burn it]] (and keep it out of [[LovableSexManiac Nyarko's]] hands).
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* Most of the students at FanFic/TheOfficialFanfictionUniversityOfMiddleEarth are female.
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* [[PunnyName Harumi Fujiyoshi]] of ''SayonaraZetsubouSensei'' draws {{Doujinshi}} as well -- one of them about her Teacher [[HiroshiKamiya Itoshiki-sensei]]. As well as a pairing of Apple × Pine when everyone else likes [[IncrediblyLamePun Pine × Apple]] (the characters in question are [[{{Expy}} expies]] of [[YesPrettyCure5 Coco and Nuts]]). In the third series she is seen drawing a ''{{Gundam 00}}'' [[ShoutOut Tieria]] (also voiced by Hiroshi Kamiya) {{Doujinshi}}.

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* [[PunnyName Harumi Fujiyoshi]] of ''SayonaraZetsubouSensei'' draws {{Doujinshi}} as well -- one of them about her Teacher [[HiroshiKamiya [[Creator/HiroshiKamiya Itoshiki-sensei]]. As well as a pairing of Apple × Pine when everyone else likes [[IncrediblyLamePun Pine × Apple]] (the characters in question are [[{{Expy}} expies]] of [[YesPrettyCure5 Coco and Nuts]]). In the third series she is seen drawing a ''{{Gundam 00}}'' [[ShoutOut Tieria]] (also voiced by Hiroshi Kamiya) {{Doujinshi}}.
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However, as for the on-going interest in fanfiction - and the associated prevalence of this trope - on the one hand, it's certainly no secret that writings with gay characters or gay or [=LGBT=] thematic imagery are significantly marginalized in main stream literature and other media, particularly romance. Fanfic writers often try to fill in this deficit with either alternate universe stories that use well-known characters to attract readers, or trying to alter their favorite works in order to compensate for unexplored potential[[hottip:*:although the quality with which this is done is variable]]. It hasn't been unknown for published authors to build their confidence and reader base in fanfic or online original works, exploring genres that usually are niche with few opportunities - a particular example of this is in Japan, where well-known manga authors and artists make doujinshi that can be sold in paper-backs without copywrite accusations.

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However, as for the on-going interest in fanfiction - and the associated prevalence of this trope - on the one hand, it's certainly no secret that writings with gay characters or gay or [=LGBT=] thematic imagery are significantly marginalized in main stream literature and other media, particularly romance. Fanfic writers often try to fill in this deficit with either alternate universe stories that use well-known characters to attract readers, or trying to alter their favorite works in order to compensate for unexplored potential[[hottip:*:although potential[[note]]although the quality with which this is done is variable]].variable[[/note]]. It hasn't been unknown for published authors to build their confidence and reader base in fanfic or online original works, exploring genres that usually are niche with few opportunities - a particular example of this is in Japan, where well-known manga authors and artists make doujinshi that can be sold in paper-backs without copywrite accusations.



Various theories abound as to why this trope has persisted so promiently, but the cause is most likely related to the theory that most visual porn is male-oriented (see: any adult video store or site) while most written porn is female-oriented[[hottip:*:Although you may be disappointed if you peruse the Erotica section of your local book store thinking that this theory is true for the majority]], and Fanfiction, like porn, trades heavily in AuthorAppeal. This trope is extremely common regardless of the reasoning behind it.

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Various theories abound as to why this trope has persisted so promiently, but the cause is most likely related to the theory that most visual porn is male-oriented (see: any adult video store or site) while most written porn is female-oriented[[hottip:*:Although female-oriented[[note]]Although you may be disappointed if you peruse the Erotica section of your local book store thinking that this theory is true for the majority]], majority[[/note]], and Fanfiction, like porn, trades heavily in AuthorAppeal. This trope is extremely common regardless of the reasoning behind it.
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* Aeris from ''VGCats'' writes erotic fanfiction about [[FinalFantasyX Tidus and Auron]], has dreams about [[VideoGame/StarFox Fox and Falco]], and likes the idea of a [[Left4Dead hot molotov throbbing in Bill's hand]].

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* Aeris from ''VGCats'' writes erotic fanfiction about [[FinalFantasyX Tidus and Auron]], has dreams about [[VideoGame/StarFox Fox and Falco]], and likes the idea of a [[Left4Dead [[VideoGame/Left4Dead hot molotov throbbing in Bill's hand]].
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--> '''Candace:''' Will you guys read my fanfiction?
-->'''SpiderMan:''' [[TakeThat Sorry, we're not allowed to accept unsolicited material.]]
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* Candace from PhineasAndFerb writes superhero fanfiction, according to ''Mission Marvel''.
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* Donut of ''RedVsBlue'' mentions writing some ''HarryPotter'' fanfiction but [[AmbiguouslyGay well...]]

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* Donut of ''RedVsBlue'' mentions writing some ''HarryPotter'' ''Franchise/HarryPotter'' fanfiction but [[AmbiguouslyGay well...]]
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* In an episode of ''FamilyGuy'', Peter insists that Meg is going to write ''UglyBetty'' fanfiction for a career.
* Tina from ''BobsBurgers'' has shelves dedicated to erotic fanfiction she's written. (In fact, she's written so much of it she's moved onto erotic ''friend''fiction.)

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* In an episode of ''FamilyGuy'', ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', Peter insists that Meg is going to write ''UglyBetty'' ''Series/UglyBetty'' fanfiction for a career.
* Tina from ''BobsBurgers'' ''WesternAnimtation/BobsBurgers'' has shelves dedicated to erotic fanfiction she's written. (In fact, she's written so much of it she's moved onto erotic ''friend''fiction.)
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* Inverted in ''Series/{{Parks and Recreation}}''. Ben Wyatt is known to write Star Trek fanfic.
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Or, specifically in the non-erotic section of Fanfiction (which is much larger than most give it credit for), the cause may be related to the fact that a lot of Fanfiction is written for fandoms that presumably lean heavily male, such as ''Franchise/StarTrek'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''{{Transformers}}'', and other Sci-fi or action adventure genres. The theory is that women notice the missing female perspective in the stories, and [[AuthorAppeal add it themselves]]. That tends to fall apart when women write fanfiction without said missing female perspective, hence it being "theory".

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Or, specifically in the non-erotic section of Fanfiction (which is much larger than most give it credit for), the cause may be related to the fact that a lot of Fanfiction is written for fandoms that presumably lean heavily male, such as ''Franchise/StarTrek'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''{{Transformers}}'', and other Sci-fi or action adventure genres. The theory hypothesis is that women notice the missing female perspective in the stories, and [[AuthorAppeal add it themselves]]. That tends to fall apart when women write fanfiction without said missing female perspective, hence it being "theory".remaining a "hypothesis".
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It is important to remember that this is a [[TropesAreTools trope]], not RealLife. Much like MostWritersAreMale is a trope that relies on a background of male-dominated writers but which now is a falsity in an age of equal opportunity, so MostFanficWrtersAreGirls is a trope which, although may have been true at some point, is now more of an urban myth (although, like in any fandom or community, the contingent of teenage girls ''do'' tend to be the loudest and most active, for good or evil).

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It is important to remember that this is a [[TropesAreTools trope]], not RealLife. Much like MostWritersAreMale is a trope that relies on a background of male-dominated writers but which now is a falsity in an age of equal opportunity, so MostFanficWrtersAreGirls MostFanficWritersAreGirls is a trope which, although may have been true at some point, is now more of an urban myth (although, like in any fandom or community, the contingent of teenage girls ''do'' tend to be the loudest and most active, for good or evil).
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It is important to remember that this is a [[TropesAreTools trope]], not RealLife. Much like MostWritersAreMale is a trope that relies on a background of male-dominated writers but which now is a falsity in an age of equal opportunity, so MostFanficWrtersAreGirls is a trope which, although may have been true at some point, is now as much of an urban myth. To tout it as anything ''but'', only reveals the user's peripheral knowledge of fanfiction.

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It is important to remember that this is a [[TropesAreTools trope]], not RealLife. Much like MostWritersAreMale is a trope that relies on a background of male-dominated writers but which now is a falsity in an age of equal opportunity, so MostFanficWrtersAreGirls is a trope which, although may have been true at some point, is now as much more of an urban myth. To tout it as anything ''but'', only reveals myth (although, like in any fandom or community, the user's peripheral knowledge contingent of fanfiction.teenage girls ''do'' tend to be the loudest and most active, for good or evil).
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This is the most common conceptualization regarding fanfic writers in general. Usually this comes down to thinking that fanfic is the domain of the 13-year-old YaoiFangirl, or HetIsEw. Those who ''do'' actually know something about today's realm of fanfic know differently, and are often offended at the insinuation that all fanfic is badly written and childish.

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This is the most common conceptualization regarding fanfic writers in general. Usually this comes down to thinking that fanfic is the domain of the 13-year-old YaoiFangirl, or HetIsEw. Those who ''do'' actually know something about today's realm of fanfic know differently, and are often offended at less than happy with the insinuation that all fanfic is badly written and childish.
childish as a whole.
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All over the internet there's been a build-up in fanfic written by young teenagers over the years. As they grow older, they may move into original works or stop writing out their fantasies and drop it all together, but a lot of writers ''do'' stay on and refine their stories, becoming the [[ForumPeckingOrder OldGuard]]. It surprises many people how adapting to someone else's canon and learning not only to write well, but how to fit their own literature into the continuity of a series can be very useful and unique skills that few other forms of writing can teach. The analysis and appreciation of the source material that is necessary to write ''good'' fanfiction is an amazing asset for any aspiring writer.

It's certainly no secret that writings with gay characters or thematic imagery are significantly marginalized in main stream literature, particularly romance, and it hasn't been unknown for published authors to build their confidence and reader base in fanfic or online original works - a particular example of this is in Japan, where well-known manga authors and artists make doujinshi that can be sold in paper-backs without copywrite accusations.

Or, for the non-erotic section of Fanfiction (which is much larger than most give it credit for), the cause may be related to the fact that a lot of Fanfiction is written for fandoms that presumably lean heavily male, such as ''Franchise/StarTrek'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''{{Transformers}}'', and other Sci-fi or action adventure genres. The theory is that women notice the missing female perspective in the stories, and [[AuthorAppeal add it themselves]]. That tends to fall apart when women write fanfiction without said missing female perspective, hence it being "theory".

Various theories abound as to why, but the cause is most likely related to the theory that most visual porn is male-oriented (see: any adult video store or site) while most written porn is female-oriented[[hottip:*:Although you may be disappointed if you peruse the Erotica section of your local book store thinking that this theory is true for the majority]], and Fanfiction, like porn, trades heavily in AuthorAppeal. This trope is extremely common regardless of the reasoning behind it.

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All over the internet there's been a build-up in fanfic written by young teenagers over the years. As they grow older, they may move into onto original works or stop writing out their fantasies and drop it all together, but a lot of writers ''do'' stay on and refine their stories, becoming the [[ForumPeckingOrder OldGuard]]. It surprises many people how adapting to someone else's canon and learning not only to write well, but how to fit their own literature into the continuity of a series can be very useful and unique skills that few other forms of writing can teach. The analysis and appreciation of the source material that is necessary to write ''good'' fanfiction is an amazing asset for any aspiring writer.

It's However, as for the on-going interest in fanfiction - and the associated prevalence of this trope - on the one hand, it's certainly no secret that writings with gay characters or gay or [=LGBT=] thematic imagery are significantly marginalized in main stream literature, literature and other media, particularly romance, and it romance. Fanfic writers often try to fill in this deficit with either alternate universe stories that use well-known characters to attract readers, or trying to alter their favorite works in order to compensate for unexplored potential[[hottip:*:although the quality with which this is done is variable]]. It hasn't been unknown for published authors to build their confidence and reader base in fanfic or online original works works, exploring genres that usually are niche with few opportunities - a particular example of this is in Japan, where well-known manga authors and artists make doujinshi that can be sold in paper-backs without copywrite accusations.

Or, for specifically in the non-erotic section of Fanfiction (which is much larger than most give it credit for), the cause may be related to the fact that a lot of Fanfiction is written for fandoms that presumably lean heavily male, such as ''Franchise/StarTrek'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''{{Transformers}}'', and other Sci-fi or action adventure genres. The theory is that women notice the missing female perspective in the stories, and [[AuthorAppeal add it themselves]]. That tends to fall apart when women write fanfiction without said missing female perspective, hence it being "theory".

Various theories abound as to why, why this trope has persisted so promiently, but the cause is most likely related to the theory that most visual porn is male-oriented (see: any adult video store or site) while most written porn is female-oriented[[hottip:*:Although you may be disappointed if you peruse the Erotica section of your local book store thinking that this theory is true for the majority]], and Fanfiction, like porn, trades heavily in AuthorAppeal. This trope is extremely common regardless of the reasoning behind it.



The ''reality'' regarding fanfic writers though, is that there is a ''huge'' contingent of both male writers, and writers in their twenties to thirties - and even lesser numbers in those much older as well. Whether in the non-romantic or erotic sections of fanfic-dom, you will find a large variety of people from all different backgrounds - including different genders - who enjoy writing fanfic. Even though, yes, there is a lot of OldShame works that exist on the internet as teenagers past and present write their ideas couched in their favourite characters, there is a ''very'' large number of works by people who ''do'' have a mature sense of writing structure, and to ignore fanfiction as a ridiculous waste of time with nothing worthy to offer would be a huge mistake.

This is a ''trope'', not reality. Much like MostWritersAreMale is a trope that relies on a background of male-dominated writers but which now is a falsity in an age of equal opportunity, so MostFanficWrtersAreGirls is a trope which, although may have been true at some point, is now as much of an urban myth. To tout it as anything ''but'', only reveals the user's peripheral knowledge of fanfiction.

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The ''reality'' regarding fanfic writers though, is that there is a ''huge'' contingent of both male writers, and writers in their twenties to thirties - and even lesser numbers in those much older as well. Whether in the non-romantic or the erotic sections of fanfic-dom, you will find a large variety of people from all different backgrounds - including different genders and ages - who enjoy writing fanfic. Even though, yes, there is a lot of OldShame works that exist on the internet as teenagers past and present write their ideas couched in their favourite characters, there is a ''very'' large number of works by people who ''do'' have a mature sense of writing structure, and to ignore fanfiction as a ridiculous waste of time with nothing worthy to offer would be a huge mistake.

This It is important to remember that this is a ''trope'', [[TropesAreTools trope]], not reality.RealLife. Much like MostWritersAreMale is a trope that relies on a background of male-dominated writers but which now is a falsity in an age of equal opportunity, so MostFanficWrtersAreGirls is a trope which, although may have been true at some point, is now as much of an urban myth. To tout it as anything ''but'', only reveals the user's peripheral knowledge of fanfiction.

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Certainly most young writers get their start taking ideas from popular culture and going from there, and using your favourite characters in your own story isn't an alien concept to most young teenagers. A lot of young people writing gay or lesbian themes and relationships - something that is rarely a common focus in the mainstream media they watch and read - or fantasizing about gay, lesbian or just Het romantic imagery in general, will start with characters and ideas they are familiar with, often with characters that engender such imagery. Some writers will deliberately start with fanfic to attract readers and feedback before starting with original characters. For young teenagers, this is certainly the place to start writing about their {{Shipping}} fantasies - gay or Het - and to get into writing generally, particularly for those with specific stories or even fetishes they want to explore. Certainly there's been a build-up in fanfic written by young teenagers over the years; as they grow older, they may move into original works or stop writing out their fantasies and drop it all together, but a lot of writers ''do'' stay on and refine their stories, becoming the OldGuard. It certainly surprises many people how adapting to someone else's canon and learning not only to write well, but how to fit their own literature into the continuity of a series can be very useful and unique skills that no other form of writing can teach.

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Certainly most young writers get their start taking ideas from popular culture and going from there, and using your favourite characters in your own story isn't an alien concept to most young teenagers. A lot of young people writing gay or lesbian themes and relationships - something that is rarely a common serious focus in the mainstream media they watch and read - or fantasizing about gay, lesbian or just Het romantic imagery in general, will start with characters and ideas they are familiar with, often with characters that engender such imagery. Some writers will deliberately start with fanfic to attract readers and feedback before starting with original characters. For young teenagers, this is certainly the place to start writing about their {{Shipping}} fantasies - gay or Het - and to get into writing generally, particularly for those with specific stories or even fetishes they want to explore. Certainly

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teach. The analysis and appreciation of the source material that is necessary to write ''good'' fanfiction is an amazing asset for any aspiring writer.

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Certainly most young writers get their start taking ideas from popular culture and going from there, and using your favourite characters in your own story isn't an alien concept to most young teenagers.

And really, a lot of young people writing gay or lesbian themes and relationships, or fantasizing about gay, lesbian or Het romantic imagery in general will start with characters and ideas they are familiar with, often with characters that engender such imagery, some deliberately starting with fanfic to attract readers and feedback before starting with original characters. For young teenagers, this is certainly the place to start writing about their {{Shipping}} fantasies - gay or Het - and to get into writing generally. Certainly there's been a build-up in fanfic written by young teenagers over the years, as they grow older and move into original works or stop writing out their fantasies and drop it all together.

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Certainly most young writers get their start taking ideas from popular culture and going from there, and using your favourite characters in your own story isn't an alien concept to most young teenagers. \n\nAnd really, a A lot of young people writing gay or lesbian themes and relationships, relationships - something that is rarely a common focus in the mainstream media they watch and read - or fantasizing about gay, lesbian or just Het romantic imagery in general general, will start with characters and ideas they are familiar with, often with characters that engender such imagery, some imagery. Some writers will deliberately starting start with fanfic to attract readers and feedback before starting with original characters. For young teenagers, this is certainly the place to start writing about their {{Shipping}} fantasies - gay or Het - and to get into writing generally. generally, particularly for those with specific stories or even fetishes they want to explore. Certainly there's been a build-up in fanfic written by young teenagers over the years, years; as they grow older and older, they may move into original works or stop writing out their fantasies and drop it all together.together, but a lot of writers ''do'' stay on and refine their stories, becoming the OldGuard. It certainly surprises many people how adapting to someone else's canon and learning not only to write well, but how to fit their own literature into the continuity of a series can be very useful and unique skills that no other form of writing can teach.
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Various theories abound as to why, but the cause is most likely related to the fact that most visual porn is male-oriented (see: any adult video store or site) while most written porn is female-oriented (see: your [[DoubleStandard local bookstore's erotica section]]) and Fanfiction, like porn, trades heavily in AuthorAppeal. This trope is extremely common regardless of the reasoning behind it.

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Various theories abound as to why, but the cause is most likely related to the fact theory that most visual porn is male-oriented (see: any adult video store or site) while most written porn is female-oriented (see: female-oriented[[hottip:*:Although you may be disappointed if you peruse the Erotica section of your [[DoubleStandard local bookstore's erotica section]]) book store thinking that this theory is true for the majority]], and Fanfiction, like porn, trades heavily in AuthorAppeal. This trope is extremely common regardless of the reasoning behind it.
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It's certainly no secret that writings with gay or lesbian characters are significantly marginalized in main stream literature, and it hasn't been unknown for published authors to build their confidence and reader base in fanfic or online original works - particularly in Japan, where doujinshi can be sold in paper-backs without copywrite accusations.

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It's certainly no secret that writings with gay or lesbian characters or thematic imagery are significantly marginalized in main stream literature, particularly romance, and it hasn't been unknown for published authors to build their confidence and reader base in fanfic or online original works - particularly a particular example of this is in Japan, where well-known manga authors and artists make doujinshi that can be sold in paper-backs without copywrite accusations.
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And really, a lot of young people writing gay or lesbian themes and relationships or fantasizing about gay or lesbian imagery will start with characters and ideas they are familiar with, some deliberately starting with fanfic to attract readers and feedback before starting with original characters. For young teenagers, this is certainly the place to start writing about their {{Shipping}} fantasies - gay or Het - and to get into writing generally. Certainly there's been a build-up in fanfic written by young teenagers over the years, as they grow older and move into original works or stop writing out their fantasies and drop it all together.

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And really, a lot of young people writing gay or lesbian themes and relationships relationships, or fantasizing about gay or gay, lesbian or Het romantic imagery in general will start with characters and ideas they are familiar with, often with characters that engender such imagery, some deliberately starting with fanfic to attract readers and feedback before starting with original characters. For young teenagers, this is certainly the place to start writing about their {{Shipping}} fantasies - gay or Het - and to get into writing generally. Certainly there's been a build-up in fanfic written by young teenagers over the years, as they grow older and move into original works or stop writing out their fantasies and drop it all together.
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This is the most common conceptualization regarding fanfic writers in general. Usually it's by people who think that all fanfic is the domain of the 13-year-old YaoiFangirl, or HetIsEw. Those who ''do'' actually know something about today's realm of fanfic know differently, and are often offended at the insinuation that all fanfic is badly written and childish.

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This is the most common conceptualization regarding fanfic writers in general. Usually it's by people who think this comes down to thinking that all fanfic is the domain of the 13-year-old YaoiFangirl, or HetIsEw. Those who ''do'' actually know something about today's realm of fanfic know differently, and are often offended at the insinuation that all fanfic is badly written and childish.

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Various theories abound as to why, but the cause is most likely related to the fact that most visual porn is male-oriented (see: any adult video store or site) while most written porn is female-oriented (see: your [[DoubleStandard local bookstore's erotica section]]) and Fanfiction, like porn, trades heavily in AuthorAppeal.

Or, for the non-erotic section of Fanfiction (which is much larger than most give it credit for), the cause may be related to the fact that a lot of Fanfiction is written for fandoms that presumably lean heavily male, such as ''Franchise/StarTrek'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''{{Transformers}}'', and other Sci-fi or action adventure genres. The theory is that women notice the missing female perspective in the stories, and [[AuthorAppeal add it themselves]]. That tends to fall apart when women write fanfiction without said missing female perspective, hence it being "theory". This trope is extremely common regardless of the reasoning behind it.

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Various theories abound as to why, but This is the cause is most likely related to the fact common conceptualization regarding fanfic writers in general. Usually it's by people who think that most visual porn all fanfic is male-oriented (see: any adult video store the domain of the 13-year-old YaoiFangirl, or site) while most HetIsEw. Those who ''do'' actually know something about today's realm of fanfic know differently, and are often offended at the insinuation that all fanfic is badly written porn is female-oriented (see: and childish.

But let's look at where those assumptions come from, shall we?

Certainly most young writers get their start taking ideas from popular culture and going from there, and using
your [[DoubleStandard local bookstore's erotica section]]) favourite characters in your own story isn't an alien concept to most young teenagers.

And really, a lot of young people writing gay or lesbian themes
and Fanfiction, like porn, trades heavily relationships or fantasizing about gay or lesbian imagery will start with characters and ideas they are familiar with, some deliberately starting with fanfic to attract readers and feedback before starting with original characters. For young teenagers, this is certainly the place to start writing about their {{Shipping}} fantasies - gay or Het - and to get into writing generally. Certainly there's been a build-up in AuthorAppeal.

fanfic written by young teenagers over the years, as they grow older and move into original works or stop writing out their fantasies and drop it all together.

It's certainly no secret that writings with gay or lesbian characters are significantly marginalized in main stream literature, and it hasn't been unknown for published authors to build their confidence and reader base in fanfic or online original works - particularly in Japan, where doujinshi can be sold in paper-backs without copywrite accusations.

Or, for the non-erotic section of Fanfiction (which is much larger than most give it credit for), the cause may be related to the fact that a lot of Fanfiction is written for fandoms that presumably lean heavily male, such as ''Franchise/StarTrek'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''{{Transformers}}'', and other Sci-fi or action adventure genres. The theory is that women notice the missing female perspective in the stories, and [[AuthorAppeal add it themselves]]. That tends to fall apart when women write fanfiction without said missing female perspective, hence it being "theory".

Various theories abound as to why, but the cause is most likely related to the fact that most visual porn is male-oriented (see: any adult video store or site) while most written porn is female-oriented (see: your [[DoubleStandard local bookstore's erotica section]]) and Fanfiction, like porn, trades heavily in AuthorAppeal.
This trope is extremely common regardless of the reasoning behind it.


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The ''reality'' regarding fanfic writers though, is that there is a ''huge'' contingent of both male writers, and writers in their twenties to thirties - and even lesser numbers in those much older as well. Whether in the non-romantic or erotic sections of fanfic-dom, you will find a large variety of people from all different backgrounds - including different genders - who enjoy writing fanfic. Even though, yes, there is a lot of OldShame works that exist on the internet as teenagers past and present write their ideas couched in their favourite characters, there is a ''very'' large number of works by people who ''do'' have a mature sense of writing structure, and to ignore fanfiction as a ridiculous waste of time with nothing worthy to offer would be a huge mistake.

This is a ''trope'', not reality. Much like MostWritersAreMale is a trope that relies on a background of male-dominated writers but which now is a falsity in an age of equal opportunity, so MostFanficWrtersAreGirls is a trope which, although may have been true at some point, is now as much of an urban myth. To tout it as anything ''but'', only reveals the user's peripheral knowledge of fanfiction.

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