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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1587942/1/Geek-of-Steel Geek of Steel]]'', a ''[[Series/{{Jake20}} Jake 2.0]]'' fanfic, Jake namedrops Creator/LarryNiven to express his concerns about his SuperStrength. [[PopCulturalOsmosisFailure Diane's not familiar with the essay, or apparently even with Niven's work in general.]]
14th Dec '17 2:15:17 PM dotchan
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* Intermittently discussed in the fourth and fifth seasons of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'', as Finn struggles with the obvious practical problems of a human in love with a fire elemental--and the danger works both ways, since as far as Flame Princess is concerned Finn may as well be made of water.

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* Intermittently discussed in the fourth and fifth seasons of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'', as Finn struggles with the obvious practical problems of a human in love with a fire elemental--and the danger works both ways, since as far as Flame Princess is concerned Finn may as well be made of water.water AND sufficiently strong emotions makes FP lose control of her powers to such a degree that it would endanger the earth.
14th Dec '17 2:14:33 PM dotchan
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* Intermittently discussed in the fourth and fifth seasons of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'', as Finn struggles with the obvious practical problems of a human in love with a fire elemental.

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* Intermittently discussed in the fourth and fifth seasons of ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'', as Finn struggles with the obvious practical problems of a human in love with a fire elemental.elemental--and the danger works both ways, since as far as Flame Princess is concerned Finn may as well be made of water.
14th Nov '17 11:43:24 AM StFan
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* ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'': Kagome is a normal human teenage girl, while Inuyasha is a half demon who can lift boulders with one finger and take a sword through the chest without receiving any permanent injuries. He also has razor sharp claws on his fingers that cannot be retracted. While they never do get significantly intimate in the anime or manga, it's not hard to imagine how this could cause some problems farther down the line as their relationship progresses.

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* ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'': ''Manga/InuYasha'': Kagome is a normal human teenage girl, while Inuyasha is a half demon who can lift boulders with one finger and take a sword through the chest without receiving any permanent injuries. He also has razor sharp claws on his fingers that cannot be retracted. While they never do get significantly intimate in the anime or manga, it's not hard to imagine how this could cause some problems farther down the line as their relationship progresses.



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*** Inverted with Kara and her boyfriend/fiancé Bruce Wayne Jr. (Batman III), but while it's shown that they do have an active love-life there's no mention of it causing any problems or of any necessary countermeasures like the red sun pendant.

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*** ** Inverted with Kara and her boyfriend/fiancé Bruce Wayne Jr. (Batman III), but while it's shown that they do have an active love-life there's no mention of it causing any problems or of any necessary countermeasures like the red sun pendant.



** In an alternate timeline in ''ComicBook/{{Armageddon 2001}}'', Lois Lane does carry Superman's child, but one kick from the child causes internal bleeding in the mother, ultimately resulting in Lois' death.

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** In an alternate timeline in ''ComicBook/{{Armageddon 2001}}'', ''ComicBook/Armageddon2001'', Lois Lane does carry Superman's child, but one kick from the child causes internal bleeding in the mother, ultimately resulting in Lois' death.



** As of ''Comicbook/{{Rebirth}}'', this is averted,since recent issues of ''Comicbook/ActionComics'' show Lois giving birth to Jon.

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** As of ''Comicbook/{{Rebirth}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Rebirth}}'', this is averted,since recent issues of ''Comicbook/ActionComics'' show Lois giving birth to Jon.



* Superman's cousins ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' and ''Comicbook/PowerGirl'' are the female version. Super-strong Kryptonian women whose muscles can crush steel. Have fun.

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* Superman's cousins ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' and ''Comicbook/PowerGirl'' ''ComicBook/PowerGirl'' are the female version. Super-strong Kryptonian women whose muscles can crush steel. Have fun.



* ''Comicbook/TheBoys'': While the woman survived the experience (raped by an evil Superman CaptainErsatz), she didn't survive the pregnancy: the superpowered baby cut its way out of her womb with heat vision.
** Even without that example, it's clearly said early on that having sex with a supe is no laughing matter, to the point where prostitutes hired by them have to take a special drug to deal with it.
* Inverted and referenced in an issue of ComicBook/{{Stormwatch}} with a 'woman of steel, man of kleenex' who get around the problem by being ''very'' careful about it.
* In the superhero parody comic ComicBook/{{The Pro}}, the titular "working girl" heroine is giving The Saint (A {{Superman}} parody) a "job" when he tells her to move quickly. The resulting shot takes down a plane.

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* ''Comicbook/TheBoys'': ''ComicBook/TheBoys'': While the woman survived the experience (raped by an evil Superman CaptainErsatz), she didn't survive the pregnancy: the superpowered baby cut its way out of her womb with heat vision.
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vision. Even without that example, it's clearly said early on that having sex with a supe is no laughing matter, to the point where prostitutes hired by them have to take a special drug to deal with it.
* Inverted and referenced in an issue of ComicBook/{{Stormwatch}} with a 'woman "woman of steel, man of kleenex' kleenex" who get around the problem by being ''very'' careful about it.
* In the superhero parody comic ComicBook/{{The Pro}}, ComicBook/ThePro, the titular "working girl" heroine is giving The Saint (A {{Superman}} (a Superman parody) a "job" when he tells her to move quickly. The resulting shot takes down a plane.



* The reverse is lampshaded in ComicBook/SheHulk, at a point where Jennifer had limited control over her transformation, and preferred to stay in She-Hulk form. Her boyfriend doesn't appreciate it, especially the risks involved in having sex with a super-strength individual.
-->'''Jen''': And if things get too... you know, just use the safe word.\\
'''John''': No kidding. I've got a few more "safe words," like "Ow!" and "Dear God!" and "Crushed pelvis."

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* ''ComicBook/SheHulk'':
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The reverse is lampshaded in ComicBook/SheHulk, lampshaded, at a point where Jennifer had limited control over her transformation, and preferred to stay in She-Hulk form. Her boyfriend doesn't appreciate it, especially the risks involved in having sex with a super-strength individual.
-->'''Jen''': --->'''Jen:''' And if things get too... you know, just use the safe word.\\
'''John''': '''John:''' No kidding. I've got a few more "safe words," like "Ow!" and "Dear God!" and "Crushed pelvis."



* ''KhaalTheChroniclesOfAGalacticEmperor'': Khaal is a super-strong HalfHumanHybrid who is mentioned to have [[OutWithABang killed]] several [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe female Psycogs]] in bed, despite them being capable of enduring and recovering from such relations. With that said, he is shown having sex with other normal women without problem, despite being a very rough partner.

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* ''KhaalTheChroniclesOfAGalacticEmperor'': ''ComicBook/KhaalTheChroniclesOfAGalacticEmperor'': Khaal is a super-strong HalfHumanHybrid who is mentioned to have [[OutWithABang killed]] several [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe female Psycogs]] in bed, despite them being capable of enduring and recovering from such relations. With that said, he is shown having sex with other normal women without problem, despite being a very rough partner.



* ''ComicBook/PS238'': G-rated version. After Tyler (as [[MemeticBadass Moon Shadow]]) pays Julie a compliment, she gives him a big hug and flies off. Since she has super strength (and he has no powers at all), she nearly crushed his spine and didn't even notice. Tyler's mentor recommends keeping his face mask to deter super-strong heroines from trying to kiss him, and later Julie hugs Tyler so hard that she accidentally traps him in his metal pilot's seat. It's worth noting that in this series we do see the children of superheroes and {{Muggle}}s, including the CaptainErsatz versions of Comicbook/{{Superman}} and Comicbook/TheHulk, so clearly there's some way around this trope.



* In the ''Fanfic/SOE2LoneHeirOfKrypton'' crossover Asuka and Shinji have this trouble, since he's human and she's ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}''.

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* In the ''Fanfic/SOE2LoneHeirOfKrypton'' crossover crossover, Asuka and Shinji have this trouble, trouble since he's human and she's ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}''.ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}.



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* ''Film/SupermanII''. The title character gave up his powers in order to romance ComicBook/LoisLane, which caused problems when the three Kryptonian super villains showed up. In the Richard Donner cut of the film, Superman and Lois Lane hook up and go to bed together ''before'' Superman gives up his powers. Perhaps they attempted coitus and Supes had to back off before the Steel/Kleenex problem killed her, and that's what motivated him to become mortal.
** A BrainwashedAndCrazy but otherwise fully powered Superman also has sex with Lorelei Ambrosia in ''Film/SupermanIII'' (admittedly it isn't confirmed but it is ''very'' heavily implied.) She obviously survived and, judging by her affection for Superman for the rest of the movie, clearly enjoyed the experience.

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''Film/SupermanII''. The title character gave up his powers in order to romance ComicBook/LoisLane, which caused problems when the three Kryptonian super villains showed up. In the Richard Donner cut of the film, Superman and Lois Lane hook up and go to bed together ''before'' Superman gives up his powers. Perhaps they attempted coitus and Supes had to back off before the Steel/Kleenex problem killed her, and that's what motivated him to become mortal.
** A BrainwashedAndCrazy but otherwise fully powered Superman also has sex with Lorelei Ambrosia in ''Film/SupermanIII'' (admittedly it isn't confirmed but it is ''very'' heavily implied.) implied). She obviously survived and, judging by her affection for Superman for the rest of the movie, clearly enjoyed the experience.



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** Confirmed in season 2 when Kara admits she broke four guys' noses just by kissing them. [[spoiler:She's happy to be finally dating someone at her strength level - Mon-El]].

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** Confirmed in season 2 when Kara admits she broke four guys' noses just by kissing them. [[spoiler:She's happy to be finally dating someone at her strength level - -- Mon-El]].



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* ''Podcast/PlumbingTheDeathStar'':
** In "Which Superhero is the Best Lover?", Duscher argues the ComicBook/IncredibleHulk would make a great lover and gets laughed off by the rest of the cast when they realize that coitus with Hulk would definitely end with him accidentally ripping you to shreds from sheer strength.
** The central issue in "Why Doesn't Rogue Use Protection?" is Rogue's inability to have sex due to her mutant powers, though the discussion veers into the problems most of the mutant population and the ComicBook/FantasticFour must have with sex. They conclude that ComicBook/IronMan and Reed Richards, with their ridiculous intellect, could simply make de-powering collars or full-body suits to prevent superpowers from interfering with coitus.
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* ''Podcast/PlumbingTheDeathStar'':
** In "Which Superhero is the Best Lover?", Duscher argues the ComicBook/IncredibleHulk would make a great lover and gets laughed off by the rest of the cast when they realize that coitus with Hulk would definitely end with him accidentally ripping you to shreds from sheer strength.
** The central issue in "Why Doesn't Rogue Use Protection?" is Rogue's inability to have sex due to her mutant powers, though the discussion veers into the problems most of the mutant population and the ComicBook/FantasticFour must have with sex. They conclude that ComicBook/IronMan and Reed Richards, with their ridiculous intellect, could simply make de-powering collars or full-body suits to prevent superpowers from interfering with coitus.
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* ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'' has a story about the Snow Queen, spirit of winter, who needs to be sexually satisfied or spring is not going to happen. Let's just say that even the most hot-blooded of men cannot take her freezing qualities and return home in one piece. It gets better though, when a [[LesYay clever adventurer]] happens by. [[spoiler: With her trusty strap-on.]]

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* ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'' has a story about the Snow Queen, spirit of winter, who needs to be sexually satisfied or spring is not going to happen. Let's just say that even the most hot-blooded of men cannot take her freezing qualities and return home in one piece. It gets better though, when a [[LesYay clever adventurer]] adventuress]] happens by. [[spoiler: With [[spoiler:With her trusty strap-on.]]



* In a {{Palcomix}} comic called "Greenheat", the ComicBook/MartianManhunter, while in heat, seduces several women, including Lois Lane, under the guise of their boyfriends. Afterwards, [[spoiler:they catch him and reveal they knew all along. When he asks how they knew, Lois states that the ''real'' Superman '''never''' dares to be the active partner during sex]].
* ''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'' has Superman [[http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1363 turning down a potential love interest by citing this trope]], who regretfully accepts the reality of it. The man WonderWoman used the same logic with? [[AManIsAlwaysEager Not]] [[TooDumbToLive so]] [[OutWithABang much]].
** The bonus panel reveals [[spoiler: that the man [[SelfDeprecation was the author stand-in]], and [[SpeedSex only lasted two minutes]]]].

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* In a {{Palcomix}} Palcomix comic called "Greenheat", the ComicBook/MartianManhunter, while in heat, seduces several women, including Lois Lane, under the guise of their boyfriends. Afterwards, [[spoiler:they catch him and reveal they knew all along. When he asks how they knew, Lois states that the ''real'' Superman '''never''' dares to be the active partner during sex]].
* ''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'' has Superman [[http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1363 turning down a potential love interest by citing this trope]], who regretfully accepts the reality of it. The man WonderWoman Franchise/WonderWoman used the same logic with? [[AManIsAlwaysEager Not]] [[TooDumbToLive so]] [[OutWithABang much]].
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much]]. The bonus panel reveals [[spoiler: that the man [[SelfDeprecation was the author stand-in]], and [[SpeedSex only lasted two minutes]]]].



* ''ComicBook/{{PS238}}'': G-rated version. After Tyler (as [[MemeticBadass Moon Shadow]]) pays Julie a compliment, she gives him a big hug and flies off. Since she has superstrength (and he has no powers at all), she nearly crushed his spine and didn't even notice. Tyler's mentor recommends keeping his face mask to deter super-strong heroines from trying to kiss him, and later Julie hugs Tyler so hard that she accidentally traps him in his metal pilot's seat.
** It's worth noting that in this series we do see the children of superheroes and {{Muggle}}s, including the CaptainErsatz versions of Comicbook/{{Superman}} and Comicbook/TheHulk, so clearly there's some way around this trope.



* ''Podcast/PlumbingTheDeathStar'':
** In "Which Superhero is the Best Lover?", Duscher argues the ComicBook/IncredibleHulk would make a great lover and gets laughed off by the rest of the cast when they realize that coitus with Hulk would definitely end with him accidentally ripping you to shreds from sheer strength.
** The central issue in "Why Doesn't Rogue Use Protection?" is Rogue's inability to have sex due to her mutant powers, though the discussion veers into the problems most of the mutant population and the ComicBook/FantasticFour must have with sex. They conclude that ComicBook/IronMan and Reed Richards, with their ridiculous intellect, could simply make de-powering collars or full-body suits to prevent superpowers from interfering with coitus.



31st Oct '17 8:21:43 PM Willbyr
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** However, the characters in Dragon Ball Z have to power up before they can use their full power. Even prior to the Cell Games, which is when Goten was conceived, Goku was able to master the basic Super Saiyan form to the point where he could control his strength in said form at all times. Basically, if they have to power up to become stronger, they can probably power down until they are at average human strength, and even if they do not power down for 'intimate moments', they also seem to have a great deal of control over their power level. As in, they can pick up an apple without crushing it, or open a door without taking it off the hinges, etc...

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** However, the characters in Dragon Ball Z ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' have to power up before they can use their full power. Even prior to the Cell Games, which is when Goten was conceived, Goku was able to master the basic Super Saiyan form to the point where he could control his strength in said form at all times. Basically, if they have to power up to become stronger, they can probably power down until they are at average human strength, and even if they do not power down for 'intimate moments', they also seem to have a great deal of control over their power level. As in, they can pick up an apple without crushing it, or open a door without taking it off the hinges, etc...



* ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'': Kagome is a normal human teenage girl, while Inuyasha is a half demon who can lift boulders with one finger and take a sword through the chest without receiving any permanent injuries. He also has razor sharp claws on his fingers that cannot be retracted. While they never do get significantly intimate in the tv series or manga, it's not hard to imagine how this could cause some problems farther down the line as their relationship progresses.

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* ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'': Kagome is a normal human teenage girl, while Inuyasha is a half demon who can lift boulders with one finger and take a sword through the chest without receiving any permanent injuries. He also has razor sharp claws on his fingers that cannot be retracted. While they never do get significantly intimate in the tv series anime or manga, it's not hard to imagine how this could cause some problems farther down the line as their relationship progresses.
13th Oct '17 9:16:27 AM lillolillo
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* In ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' fanfic ''Fanfic/SupermanOf2499TheGreatConfrontation'', the issue is brought up when former Superman's wife Lyra states Kryptonians can control themselves; otherwise, she'd have no children.



* ''Film/SupermanII''. The title character gave up his powers in order to romance Lois Lane, which caused problems when the three Kryptonian super villains showed up. In the Richard Donner cut of the film, Superman and Lois Lane hook up and go to bed together ''before'' Superman gives up his powers. Perhaps they attempted coitus and Supes had to back off before the Steel/Kleenex problem killed her, and that's what motivated him to become mortal.

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* ''Film/SupermanII''. The title character gave up his powers in order to romance Lois Lane, ComicBook/LoisLane, which caused problems when the three Kryptonian super villains showed up. In the Richard Donner cut of the film, Superman and Lois Lane hook up and go to bed together ''before'' Superman gives up his powers. Perhaps they attempted coitus and Supes had to back off before the Steel/Kleenex problem killed her, and that's what motivated him to become mortal.
2nd Oct '17 4:44:03 PM eroock
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* Discussed by Drax in ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'', who mentions that Ego's human-esque avatar has to be... ahem, "fully-equipped" in order to be reproducing with other species, because Ego the Planet is not suited to such a task.

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* Discussed by Drax in ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'', who mentions that Ego's human-esque avatar has to be... ahem, "fully-equipped" in order to be reproducing with other species, because [[GeniusLoci Ego the Planet Planet]] is not suited to such a task.
2nd Oct '17 4:42:44 PM eroock
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* Discussed by Drax in ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxyVol2'', who mentions that Ego's human-esque avatar has to be... ahem, "fully-equipped" in order to be reproducing with other species, because Ego the Planet is not suited to such a task.
-->'''Drax:''' If he's a planet, how could he make a baby with your mother? He would smush her!
2nd Oct '17 1:11:25 PM lillolillo
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* In ''Series{{Supergirl 2015}}'' fanfic ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/9189325/chapters/20854411 A Favor Among Friends]]'' Kara considers to have sex with Mon-El because being invulnerable he's the only unrelated male she can have sex with.

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* In ''Series{{Supergirl 2015}}'' ''Series/Supergirl2015'' fanfic ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/9189325/chapters/20854411 A Favor Among Friends]]'' Kara considers to have sex with Mon-El because being invulnerable he's the only unrelated male she can have sex with.



* There's at least one ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' fanfic where Clark practices having sex with Earthlings [[BestialityIsDepraved on sheep]] so he doesn't risk hurting people.

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* There's at least one In ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' fanfic where ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/848400/chapters/1621084 Under the Influence]]'', when Kara introduces herself to Clark practices having sex with Earthlings [[BestialityIsDepraved on sheep]] so he doesn't risk hurting people.and reveals she's a Kryptonian she adds: "So I'll not break."
26th Sep '17 4:24:53 AM legendaryweredragon
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* In the SoBadItsGood film ''Film/DeathBedTheBedThatEats'', a [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demon]] took the form of a man and had sex with a woman, which resulted in the woman being left in a state of [[OnlyMostlyDead half death]]. The demon cried TearsOfBlood on the bed that he had conjured for them to have sex on, bringing it to life as the titular killer bed.
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