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2nd Dec '17 2:45:15 AM FRizer
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LeakedExperience can be very helpful in getting this to the appropriate point without weakening the party or putting the Magikarp's Power in danger.

Related to LevelGrinding in that the player is forced to drag an entirely useless item or {{NPC}} around for level after level, until it becomes useful.

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LeakedExperience can be very helpful in getting this to the appropriate point without weakening the party or putting the Magikarp's Power in danger.

danger. RareCandy may also be a great help. Related to LevelGrinding in that the player is forced to drag an entirely useless item or {{NPC}} around for level after level, until it becomes useful.



Compare GatheringSteam which likewise starts out pathetic but gains in capability throughout a fight, FutureBadass, TookALevelInBadass (this trope implemented for a character), LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards (for when wizards are treated as magikarp), LethalJokeCharacter (a JokeCharacter with hidden potential), DifficultButAwesome (for when a character/faction is set up to make the ''player'' a magikarp) and ChangingGameplayPriorities. Contrast BreakableWeapons, WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway and CrutchCharacter. Can sometimes be heard to ask, "WhosLaughingNow"

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Compare GatheringSteam which likewise starts out pathetic but gains in capability throughout a fight, EliteTweak, FutureBadass, TookALevelInBadass (this trope implemented for a character), LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards (for when wizards are treated as magikarp), LethalJokeCharacter (a JokeCharacter with hidden potential), EvolvingWeapon, EvolvingAttack, EquipmentUpgrade, DifficultButAwesome (for when a character/faction is set up to make the ''player'' a magikarp) and ChangingGameplayPriorities. Contrast BreakableWeapons, WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway and CrutchCharacter. Can sometimes be heard to ask, "WhosLaughingNow"
28th Nov '17 9:14:39 AM PDL
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** [[spoiler:Cosmog]] is the [[UpToEleven case to end all cases]]. Statistically, it's a Psychic-type Magikarp with even lower speed, and can only learn Splash and Teleport, neither of which damage the enemy, and it has the ability Unaware, which is completely useless for genderless Pokemon. Once you get it to level 43, it evolves into [[spoiler:Cosmoem]]... which, while it has improved defenses, is still weak, and still knows no damaging moves. Until it evolves a second time, pretty much the only way it can win a battle without help from another Pokemon is to make it run out of PP so it can use Struggle. You have to baby it up for 10 more levels, but once it reaches level 53, it evolves into either [[spoiler:Solgaleo]] or [[spoiler:Lunala]], depending on the version. For a stat-wise comparison, it starts of as Magikarp without any attack [[spoiler: becomes something akin to Kadabra but still not able to attack upon evolving into Cosmoem, and then finally evolves into ''Mewtwo'']].

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** [[spoiler:Cosmog]] is the [[UpToEleven case to end all cases]]. Statistically, it's a Psychic-type Magikarp with even lower speed, and can only learn Splash and Teleport, neither of which damage the enemy, and it has the ability Unaware, which is completely useless for genderless Pokemon.enemy. Once you get it to level 43, it evolves into [[spoiler:Cosmoem]]... which, while it has improved defenses, is still weak, and still knows no damaging moves. Until it evolves a second time, pretty much the only way it can win a battle without help from another Pokemon is to make it run out of PP so it can use Struggle. You have to baby it up for 10 more levels, but once it reaches level 53, it evolves into either [[spoiler:Solgaleo]] or [[spoiler:Lunala]], depending on the version. For a stat-wise comparison, it starts of as Magikarp without any attack [[spoiler: becomes something akin to Kadabra but still not able to attack upon evolving into Cosmoem, and then finally evolves into ''Mewtwo'']].
28th Nov '17 9:05:51 AM BeerBaron
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** In general throughout the series, [[FighterMageThief "Mage" and "Thief"]] based builds are almost always weaker to start out and have a much tougher going early in the games than their "Fighter" oriented counterparts. However, after leveling up a few times and getting higher quality equipment/spells, these builds quickly outpace the pure "Fighters" and reach massive levels of power. While they're busy trading blows with enemy mooks, skilled Thief-types can, for example, have wiped them all out with ''x30 damage'' critical hit sneak attacks while Mage-types can have dropped them all with a mass Paralysis spell while their powerful summoned creatures tear them apart, both without having taken a single hit in return. However, as seen under LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards, you can still find yourself at a disadvantage if you're forced to fight an enemy you [[UselessUsefulStealth can't sneak up on]] or who is [[AntiMagic immune to]]/[[AttackReflector reflects]] your spells, so it is wise to have a Plan B.
27th Nov '17 6:51:59 AM Stinkoman87
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* As a rule, because monsters themselves are the game's main resource, there's a lot of weak monsters that peple use because they can be used as materials for bigger, stronger monsters.
20th Nov '17 1:29:34 AM legendaryweredragon
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** [[TropeNamer Named]] from the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' Magikarp, which has horrible (but not the worst) overall stats and can only learn four moves outside of events,[[note]]Splash, Tackle, Flail, Bounce - with Flail being introduced in Generation II, and Bounce first becoming available to Magikarp beginning in ''[[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Pokémon Platinum]]''[[/note]] (which was actually a paltry ''two'' moves at the time of its original debut appearance in ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'') one of which does absolutely nothing, and it cannot learn anything else other than these moves. It eventually evolves into the dreaded Gyarados, which is one of the most powerful and versatile creatures in the game. Interestingly, Magikarp can evolve at level 20, which is actually much earlier than most final evolutions with comparable stats, but doing so is still a pain because the damn thing is so weak. Also played straight in ''VideoGame/PokemonGo'', where Magikarp is the weakest Pokémon in terms of potential CP and requires the most candies to evolve (400, four times the nearest competitor), but upon evolving into Gyarados, it becomes 15 times stronger. No other Pokémon in the game gets such a massive power boost.

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** [[TropeNamer Named]] from the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' Magikarp, which has horrible (but not the worst) overall stats and can only learn four moves outside of events,[[note]]Splash, Tackle, Flail, Bounce - with Flail being introduced in Generation II, and Bounce first becoming available to Magikarp beginning in ''[[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Pokémon Platinum]]''[[/note]] (which was actually a paltry ''two'' moves at the time of its original debut appearance in ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue'') one of which does absolutely nothing, and it cannot learn anything else other than these moves. It eventually evolves into the dreaded Gyarados, which is one of the most powerful and versatile creatures in the game. Interestingly, Magikarp can evolve at level 20, which is actually much earlier than most final evolutions with comparable stats, but doing so is still a pain because the damn thing is so weak. And if you want to get a Gyarados that knows the move Flail, then you have to prevent Magikarp from evolving until level 30 because Magikarp doesn't learn Flail until then and Gyarados can not learn Flail. Also played straight in ''VideoGame/PokemonGo'', where Magikarp is the weakest Pokémon in terms of potential CP and requires the most candies to evolve (400, four times the nearest competitor), but upon evolving into Gyarados, it becomes 15 times stronger. No other Pokémon in the game gets such a massive power boost.



** [[spoiler:Cosmog]] is the [[UpToEleven case to end all cases]]. Statistically, it's a Psychic-type Magikarp with even lower speed, and can only learn Splash and Teleport, neither of which damage the enemy. Once you get it to level 43, it evolves into [[spoiler:Cosmoem]]... which, while it has improved defenses, is still weak, and still knows no damaging moves. You have to baby it up for 10 more levels, but once it reaches level 53, it evolves into either [[spoiler:Solgaleo]] or [[spoiler:Lunala]], depending on the version. For a stat-wise comparison, it starts of as Magikarp [[spoiler: becomes something akin to Kadabra upon evolving into Cosmoem, and then finally evolves into ''Mewtwo'']].

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** [[spoiler:Cosmog]] is the [[UpToEleven case to end all cases]]. Statistically, it's a Psychic-type Magikarp with even lower speed, and can only learn Splash and Teleport, neither of which damage the enemy.enemy, and it has the ability Unaware, which is completely useless for genderless Pokemon. Once you get it to level 43, it evolves into [[spoiler:Cosmoem]]... which, while it has improved defenses, is still weak, and still knows no damaging moves. Until it evolves a second time, pretty much the only way it can win a battle without help from another Pokemon is to make it run out of PP so it can use Struggle. You have to baby it up for 10 more levels, but once it reaches level 53, it evolves into either [[spoiler:Solgaleo]] or [[spoiler:Lunala]], depending on the version. For a stat-wise comparison, it starts of as Magikarp without any attack [[spoiler: becomes something akin to Kadabra but still not able to attack upon evolving into Cosmoem, and then finally evolves into ''Mewtwo'']].
15th Nov '17 8:27:56 AM ashlay
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* ''Literature/ReleaseThatWitch'': Many magic powers with limited applications end up being quite powerful as they evolve. For instance, Maggie's ability to turn into birds ends up making her quite deadly once it eveolves and gives her the ability to turn into massive deadly bird monsters as well.
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31st Oct '17 4:11:02 PM TSBasilisk
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** The Elekk Plushie in ''Warlords of Draenor'' is a nearly-useless battle pet, due to all of its "abilities" being cosmetic in nature. While it can gain XP and reach the same max level as other pets, its only apparent use is soaking attacks. However, if the player defeats ''every'' battle pet master with the Plushie on their team they receive a special achievement and the Plushie comes to life as a ''real'' Elekk. Needless to say, this is no easy task as some of the masters are difficult to beat with all three pets, let alone only two that are usable.
30th Oct '17 7:54:13 AM PDL
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** [[spoiler:Cosmog]] is the [[UpToEleven case to end all cases]]. Statistically, it's a Psychic-type Magikarp with even lower speed, and can only learn Splash and Teleport, neither of which damage the enemy. Once you get it to level 43, it evolves into [[spoiler:Cosmoem]]... which, while it has improved defenses, is still weak, and still knows no damaging moves. You have to baby it up for 10 more levels, but once it reaches level 53, it evolves into either [[spoiler:Solgaleo]] or [[spoiler:Lunala]], depending on the version.

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** [[spoiler:Cosmog]] is the [[UpToEleven case to end all cases]]. Statistically, it's a Psychic-type Magikarp with even lower speed, and can only learn Splash and Teleport, neither of which damage the enemy. Once you get it to level 43, it evolves into [[spoiler:Cosmoem]]... which, while it has improved defenses, is still weak, and still knows no damaging moves. You have to baby it up for 10 more levels, but once it reaches level 53, it evolves into either [[spoiler:Solgaleo]] or [[spoiler:Lunala]], depending on the version. For a stat-wise comparison, it starts of as Magikarp [[spoiler: becomes something akin to Kadabra upon evolving into Cosmoem, and then finally evolves into ''Mewtwo'']].
30th Oct '17 7:37:37 AM infernape612
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* The ''VideoGame/DragonBallZAttackOfTheSaiyans'' has Gohan, who like his anime counterpart at that point in the series is a near useless runt, only gaining one point per stat whenever you level up, compared to the other characters who all have one or two stats that get extra points. That all changes once you get to level 35, where not only does Gohan start gaining two to three points extra on ''all'' his stats, but it makes him the single character in the game who can completely outdo Goku.

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* The ''VideoGame/DragonBallZAttackOfTheSaiyans'' has Gohan, who like his anime counterpart at that point in the series is a near useless runt, only gaining one point per stat whenever you level up, compared to the other characters who all have one or two stats that get extra points. That all changes once you get to level 35, where not only does Gohan start gaining two to three points extra on ''all'' his stats, but it makes him the single character in the game who can completely outdo Goku.
14th Oct '17 9:49:51 PM SneaselSawashiro
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** Dratini starts as a pretty unimpressive pokémon with low overall and a shallow level-up movepool. Compounded with an atrociously slow level up speed and having one of the highest evolution levels of the franchise, it will take a lot of effort to train. Once it finally evolves into a Dragonite, it proves itself to be an impressive powerhouse with a diverse movepool.

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** Dratini is the first start of the "pseudo-legendary" trend via the fact that it's a non-legendary with an evolutionary line that ends up giving it roughly the same stat total as any one of them (around 600 max); and from there, it starts as a pretty unimpressive pokémon with low overall and a shallow level-up movepool. Compounded with an atrociously slow level up speed and having one of the highest evolution levels of the franchise, franchise (like many early "pseudo-legendary" evolution lines), it will take a lot of effort to train. Once it finally evolves into a Dragonite, it proves itself to be an impressive powerhouse with a diverse movepool.



** Larvitar is a teensy greenish mon found at level 20 in Mt. Silver, the final area of ''Gold and Silver''. It's sluggish, relatively weak, and has a very mixed bag Rock/Ground type, though it learns a small handful of semi-decent moves. Its evolution, Pupitar, is somewhat better. But that's nothing when it evolves into Tyranitar, it gets massively boosted stats, trades its Ground-type off for Dark-type, and a better movepool.

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** Larvitar is a teensy greenish mon found at level 20 in Mt. Silver, the final area of ''Gold and Silver''. It's sluggish, relatively weak, and has a very mixed bag Rock/Ground type, though it learns a small handful of semi-decent moves. Its evolution, Pupitar, is somewhat better. But that's nothing when it evolves into Tyranitar, it gets massively boosted stats, stats via being the second pseudo-legendary (meaning its stat total is roughly around 600), trades its Ground-type off for Dark-type, and a better movepool.



** Slakoth has poor stats and its ability is Truant, which doesn't allow it to act on every second turn, but at Level 18, it evolves into a Vigoroth, which no longer has Truant and has decent overall stats... which is nothing compare to when Vigoroth evolves into Slaking, it regains its Truant ability, but Slaking has one of the highest Attack stats in the game. Slaking's stat total actually matches the [[OlympusMons legendary]] [[MagmaMan Groudon]] and [[TheGreatFlood Kyogre]], and is the highest of any non-legendary Pokémon in the game.
** Ralts is Pokémon that can only use Growl, a measly early-game Attack reducing move, and it has stats that are ''even worse than Magikarp's.'' It is a headache to train until it learns Confusion at level 6... but Ralts will be knocked out in one or two hits by anything that survives or outspeed it. It evolves into a Kirlia at Level 20, which isn't much better, especially compared to the other Pokemon. Though it doesn't take too long before Kirlia evolves into a Gardevoir at level 30, a major improvement over Kirlia. While Gardevoir's Defense is quite bad, its Special Attack and Special Defense are amazing, allowing Gardevoir to take advantage of its diverse movepool. Its SpearCounterpart, Gallade, is no slouch either, but with more of an emphasis on his Attack.
** Magikarp's [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire third generation]] equivalent, Feebas, is a similar (if not ''quite'' as useless) case; it evolves into the defensive-based and beautiful Milotic. Thatís it, if you know [[GuideDangIt how to find it and evolve it in the Generation III and IV games.]] Though starting in Generation V, Prism Scale is introduced that bypasses the GuideDangIt and allows Feebas to evolve on a trade if itís holding one.
** Beldum can attest to Level 20's awesomeness, as it goes from a ridiculously hard-to-catch floating leg that can only learn Take Down, a move that deal recoil damage, to Metang, which becomes the defensive and powerful Metagross at level 45.

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** Slakoth has poor stats and its ability is Truant, which doesn't allow it to act on every second turn, but at Level 18, it evolves into a Vigoroth, which no longer has Truant and has decent overall stats... which is nothing compare to when Vigoroth evolves into Slaking, it regains its Truant ability, but Slaking has one of the highest Attack stats in the game. Slaking's stat total actually matches the [[OlympusMons legendary]] [[MagmaMan Groudon]] and [[TheGreatFlood Kyogre]], Kyogre]]; and unlike the other pseudo-legendaries mentioned, its stat total is instead around a ''whopping 670'', which is the highest of any non-legendary Pokémon in the game.
** Ralts is Pokémon that can only use Growl, a measly early-game Attack reducing move, and it has stats that are ''even worse than Magikarp's.'' It is a headache to train until it learns Confusion at level 6... but Ralts will be knocked out in one or two hits by anything that survives or outspeed out-speed it. It evolves into a Kirlia at Level 20, which isn't much better, especially compared to the other Pokemon. Though it doesn't take too long before Kirlia evolves into a Gardevoir at level 30, a major improvement over Kirlia. While Gardevoir's Defense is quite bad, its Special Attack and Special Defense are amazing, allowing Gardevoir to take advantage of its diverse movepool. Its SpearCounterpart, Gallade, is no slouch either, but with more of an emphasis on his Attack.Attack and a sufficient movepool of its own.
** Magikarp's [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire third generation]] equivalent, Feebas, is a similar (if not ''quite'' as useless) case; it evolves into the defensive-based and beautiful Milotic. Thatís it, if you know [[GuideDangIt how to find it and evolve it in the Generation III and IV games.]] Though starting in Generation V, Prism Scale is introduced that bypasses the GuideDangIt and allows Feebas to evolve on a trade if itís it's holding one.
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** Beldum can attest to Level 20's awesomeness, awesomeness as yet another pseudo-legendary, as it goes from a ridiculously hard-to-catch floating leg that can only learn Take Down, a move that deal recoil damage, to Metang, which becomes the defensive and powerful Metagross at level 45.



** The second pseudo-legendary line of Pokemon within the generation is Bagon's line, who has a slightly decent movepool but still some lackluster stats. Shelgon is its next form at level 30, then into Salamence at Level 50. Even its Pokedex entries state that via Bagon's long-lasting desire to want to fly, it expresses massive joy upon finally evolving into a Salamence; it seems hard work pays off In-Universe as well.



** Out of the pseudo-legendaries, Deino, is particularly notable because it evolves much later than the rest - it evolves at 50 (you can get Salamence, Metagross, and Garchomp, other pseudo-legendary, by this level) and then ''level 64'', the highest evolution level of anything in the ''entire series''. What's more, Deino and its evolved form Zweilous have an ability that ''lowers accuracy'', making them pretty unreliable to use. Once it evolves into a Hydreigon, it trades its Hustle ability for a far more reliable Levitate and itís a MagicKnight capable of learning tons of moves.

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** Out of the pseudo-legendaries, Deino, is particularly notable because it evolves much later than the rest - it evolves at 50 (you can get Salamence, Metagross, and Garchomp, other pseudo-legendary, by this level) level, while Dragonite and Tyranitar are Level 55 instead) and then ''level 64'', the highest evolution level of anything in the ''entire series''. What's more, Deino and its evolved form Zweilous have an ability that ''lowers accuracy'', making them pretty unreliable to use. Once it evolves into a Hydreigon, it trades its Hustle ability for a far more reliable Levitate and itís it's a MagicKnight capable of learning tons of moves.
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