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* In Murdoch's ''The Bell'', 40-year-old Michael falls in love with 18-year-old Toby and thinks that "...it might be possible to watch over him and help him...in a way that Toby would never know, in humble services obscurely performed at future times." As a young teacher Michael also loved with a 15-year-old pupil of his, Nick.
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* In Murdoch's ''The Bell'', 40-year-old Michael falls in love with 18-year-old Toby and thinks that "...it might be possible to watch over him and help him...in a way that Toby would never know, in humble services obscurely performed at future times." As a young teacher Michael also loved with a 15-year-old pupil of his, Nick.
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* In Iris Murdoch's ''A Fairly Honourable Defeat'', two of the main characters are a lover/beloved couple.
* In Murdoch's ''The Bell'', 40-year-old Michael falls in love with 18-year-old Toby and thinks that "...it might be possible to watch over him and help him...in a way that Toby would never know, in humble services obscurely performed at future times." As a young teacher Michael also loved with a 15-year-old pupil of his, Nick.
* In Murdoch's ''The Bell'', 40-year-old Michael falls in love with 18-year-old Toby and thinks that "...it might be possible to watch over him and help him...in a way that Toby would never know, in humble services obscurely performed at future times." As a young teacher Michael also loved with a 15-year-old pupil of his, Nick.
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* Robin Maugham describes having such relationships in his autobiography, ''Escape from the Shadows''.
* French author Roger Peyrefitte met Alain-Philippe Malagnac d'Argens de Villèle when the boy was 12 and Peyrefitte 56, and they had a love affair, documented in ''Notre amour''. de Villèle became Peyrefitte's personal secretary at age 16 and Peyrefitte eventually adopted him and gave him plenty of money for various business ventures. de Villèle died six weeks after Peyrefitte, possibly in accordance with a suicide pact.
* French author Roger Peyrefitte met Alain-Philippe Malagnac d'Argens de Villèle when the boy was 12 and Peyrefitte 56, and they had a love affair, documented in ''Notre amour''. de Villèle became Peyrefitte's personal secretary at age 16 and Peyrefitte eventually adopted him and gave him plenty of money for various business ventures. de Villèle died six weeks after Peyrefitte, possibly in accordance with a suicide pact.
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* Noël Coward and Graham Payn, his protégé and boyfriend, 18 years younger. The relationship began when Payn was 27. Coward promoted Payn's stage career but later wrote, "I love him dearly and for ever, but this lack of drive in any direction is a bad augury for the future. I am willing and happy to look after him for the rest of my life, but he must do something."
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* Noël Coward and Graham Payn, his protégé and boyfriend, 18 years younger. The relationship began when Payn was 27.27 and lasted for the rest of Coward's life. Coward promoted Payn's stage career but later wrote, "I love him dearly and for ever, but this lack of drive in any direction is a bad augury for the future. I am willing and happy to look after him for the rest of my life, but he must do something."
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* Noël Coward and Graham Payn, his protégé and boyfriend, 18 years younger. The relationship began when Payn was 27. Coward promoted Payn's stage career but later wrote, "I love him dearly and for ever, but this lack of drive in any direction is a bad augury for the future. I am willing and happy to look after him for the rest of my life, but he must do something."
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** Also among the Pashtun of modern Afghanistan.
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* The Roman emperor Hadrian and his teenaged boyfriend Antinous.
* W. H. Auden and Chester Kallman. Their relationship began when Kallman was 18 and Auden 32.
* Christopher Isherwood and Don Bachardy. They met when Isherwood was 38 and Bachardy 16 or 18.
* W. H. Auden and Chester Kallman. Their relationship began when Kallman was 18 and Auden 32.
* Christopher Isherwood and Don Bachardy. They met when Isherwood was 38 and Bachardy 16 or 18.
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* Lover / beloved affairs are also the done thing in ''Lord Dismiss Us'', yet another boys' boarding school story, from England this time. Somewhat subverted in that sixteen-year-old Allen is more mature than eighteen-year-old Carleton, his lover.
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* Lover / beloved affairs are also the done thing in ''Lord Dismiss Us'', yet another boys' boarding school story, from England this time. Somewhat subverted in that sixteen-year-old Allen is more mature than eighteen-year-old Carleton, his lover. Also, Allen comments, "With us it's different to everyone else. It's usually the older one who loves more. But I love you more."
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* OscarWilde and Lord Alfred Douglas ('Bosie').
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* ''Voor een verloren soldaat'' (''For a Lost Soldier'') portrays the brief love affair between a twelve-year-old boy and a young Canadian soldier, with elements of this trope invoked.
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* ''Voor een verloren soldaat'' (''For a Lost Soldier'') portrays the brief love affair between a twelve-year-old Dutch boy and a young Canadian soldier, with elements of this trope invoked.
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* ''Voor een verloren soldaat'' (''For a Lost Soldier'') portrays the brief love affair between a twelve-year-old boy and a young Canadian soldier.
* ''Du er ikke alene'' (''You Are Not Alone''): another tale about an older and a younger boy at boarding school.
* Invoked and subverted in ''Il sapore del grano'' (''The Flavor of Corn''). Lorenzo, a university student doing a year's teaching develops a romantic friendship with Duilio, one of the boys in his class. Duilio teaches Lorenzo to drive a tractor and identify trees and offers him simple affection. When his girlfriend, seeing a postcard from Duilio, asks if he's one of Lorenzo's pupils, Lorenzo says, "No, he's the one who taught me everything I know."
* ''Du er ikke alene'' (''You Are Not Alone''): another tale about an older and a younger boy at boarding school.
* Invoked and subverted in ''Il sapore del grano'' (''The Flavor of Corn''). Lorenzo, a university student doing a year's teaching develops a romantic friendship with Duilio, one of the boys in his class. Duilio teaches Lorenzo to drive a tractor and identify trees and offers him simple affection. When his girlfriend, seeing a postcard from Duilio, asks if he's one of Lorenzo's pupils, Lorenzo says, "No, he's the one who taught me everything I know."
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* ''Voor een verloren soldaat'' (''For a Lost Soldier'') portrays the brief love affair between a twelve-year-old boy and a young Canadian soldier.
soldier, with elements of this trope invoked.
* ''Du er ikke alene'' (''You Are Not Alone''): another tale about an older and a younger boy at boardingschool.
school. The older boy is something of a teacher and protector for the younger, who looks up to him.
* Invoked and subverted in ''Il sapore del grano'' (''The Flavor of Corn''). Lorenzo, a university student doing a year'steaching teaching, develops a romantic friendship with Duilio, one of the boys in his class. Duilio teaches Lorenzo to drive a tractor and identify trees and offers him simple affection. When his girlfriend, seeing a postcard from Duilio, asks if he's one of Lorenzo's pupils, Lorenzo says, "No, he's the one who taught me everything I know.""
* In Gerard Blain's ''<<Les Amis>>'', fortysomething Philippe and sixteen-year-old Paul have a classic lover/beloved relationship.
* In ''Un enfant dans la foule'' (''A Child in the Crowd''), another film by Blain, a thirteen-year-old boy is taken up by various men, one of whom temporarily becomes a good mentor to him, though the man eventually decides that he can't provide what the boy needs.
* ''Du er ikke alene'' (''You Are Not Alone''): another tale about an older and a younger boy at boarding
* Invoked and subverted in ''Il sapore del grano'' (''The Flavor of Corn''). Lorenzo, a university student doing a year's
* In Gerard Blain's ''<<Les Amis>>'', fortysomething Philippe and sixteen-year-old Paul have a classic lover/beloved relationship.
* In ''Un enfant dans la foule'' (''A Child in the Crowd''), another film by Blain, a thirteen-year-old boy is taken up by various men, one of whom temporarily becomes a good mentor to him, though the man eventually decides that he can't provide what the boy needs.
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* Subverted in Tony Duvert's ''Quand Mourut Jonathan'' (''When Jonathan Died''). An artist, Jonathan, has a four-year relationship with a boy, Serge, aged six to ten, twenty years younger than he is. Serge takes the lead in everything; Jonathan does whatever Serge wants.
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* Subverted in Tony Duvert's ''Quand Mourut Jonathan'' (''When Jonathan Died''). An artist, Jonathan, has a four-year relationship with a boy, Serge, aged six to ten, twenty twenty-one years younger than he is. Serge takes the lead in everything; Jonathan does whatever Serge wants. Jonathan is described as a "disciple" to the little boy, who sometimes sees Jonathan as being a child even younger than himself.
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* The German TV film ''Guter Junge'' is about a man who finds out that his 17-year-old son likes younger boys and doesn't know what on earth to do about it. The trope is both invoked and subverted. Sven, the son, has a relationship with a boy of 12 or 13, Patrick, whom he tutors after school, and who plainly looks up to him. However, with this boy and with an 11-year-old he's seen hanging out with at a party, Sven is happy to follow the boy's lead. Patrick wants to be an actor, so the two go to the movies together. The other boy wants to play the family CD collection for Sven, so that's what they do.
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* In 1961s ''Victim'', which uses elements of the plot of ''Different from the Others'', a lawyer nearing 40 gets to know a young man about half that, who hero-worships him and with whom he shares a mutual attraction, though the older guy breaks it off because "he was getting too fond of me" -- or, as his wife suggests, "you were getting too fond of him".
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* In 1961s ''Victim'', which uses elements of the plot of ''Different from the Others'', a lawyer nearing 40 gets to know a young man about half that, who hero-worships him and with whom he shares a mutual attraction, though the older guy breaks it off because "he was getting too fond of me" -- or, as his wife suggests, "you were getting too fond of him". Said young man has also had a relationship with a middle-aged bookshop owner, who is deeply in love with him and wants to give him a home and a job for life.
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* Invoked and subverted in ''Il sapore del grano'' (''The Flavor of Corn''). Lorenzo, a university student doing a year's teaching develops a romantic friendship with Duilio, one of the boys in his class. Duilio teaches Lorenzo to drive a tractor and identify trees and offers him simple affection. When his girlfriend, seeing a postcard from Duilio, asks if he's one of Lorenzo's pupils, Lorenzo says, "No, he's the one who taught me everything I know."
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* In Michael Lowenthal's ''Avoidance'', the protagonist works as assistant director of a boys' summer camp where there is a strong emphasis on men mentoring boys. Turns out that some of the men are attracted to the boys and use the mentor role to force themselves on them.
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* In Michael Lowenthal's ''Avoidance'', the protagonist works as assistant director of a boys' summer camp where there is a strong emphasis on men mentoring boys. Turns out that some of the men are attracted to the boys and use the mentor role to force themselves on them. The protagonist, however, despite his sexual attraction to one of his young protégés, establishes a chaste and loving mentor relationship with him.
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* In ''Avant que j'oublie'' (''Before I Forget''), a recent film about an ageing gay man, lover/beloved relationships between older and younger men are the only kind portrayed.
* ''Voor een verloren soldaat'' (''For a Lost Soldier'') portrays the brief love affair between a twelve-year-old boy and a young Canadian soldier.
* ''Du er ikke alene'' (''You Are Not Alone''): another tale about an older and a younger boy at boarding school.
* ''Voor een verloren soldaat'' (''For a Lost Soldier'') portrays the brief love affair between a twelve-year-old boy and a young Canadian soldier.
* ''Du er ikke alene'' (''You Are Not Alone''): another tale about an older and a younger boy at boarding school.
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* Both invoked and subverted in ''if....'' by Lindsay Anderson, set in a boys' boarding school where it's common and accepted for older boys to take a shine to younger ones. One of the three main characters has a relationship with a younger boy, of whom he's protective, but who seems to be a more mature person than his lover.
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* Mary Renault's books, because she wrote a lot about ancient Greece, where this trope was the standard for homosexual relationships. ''The Last of the Wine'', ''The King Must Die'', ''The Bull from the Sea'', ''The Mask of Apollo'', ''Fire From Heaven'', ''The Persian Boy'', ''The Praise Singer'' and ''Funeral Games'' all feature this trope to varying degrees. ''The Charioteer'', her last contemporary novel, set during World War II, has its twenty-three-year-old protagonist Laurie involved in two relationships: he's the Lover to nineteen-year-old Andrew, the Beloved to twenty-six-year-old Ralph.
* ''Les amitiés particulières'' (''This Special Friendship''), Roger Peyrefitte's classic novel set in a Jesuit school. Fourteen-year-old Georges has this kind of love affair with twelve-year-old Alexandre. Georges also has a friend his own age, Lucien, who's involved in a similar relationship with sixteen-year-old André.
* ''Les Garçons'', by Henri de Montherlant, another Jesuit-boarding-school tale, based on Montherlant's own boyhood. Relationships following this trope are common and accepted, even encouraged, among the boys. The heroic sixteen-year-old protagonist is very anxious to be a good mentor to his fourteen-year-old beloved, to the point of being willing to sacrifice the sex and even the relationship itself, and disapproves of the attitude of some of the other older boys, who are just in their relationships for the kicks.
* Lover / beloved affairs are also the done thing in ''Lord Dismiss Us'', yet another boys' boarding school story, from England this time. Somewhat subverted in that sixteen-year-old Allen is more mature than eighteen-year-old Carleton, his lover.
* Subverted in Tony Duvert's ''Quand Mourut Jonathan'' (''When Jonathan Died''). An artist, Jonathan, has a four-year relationship with a boy, Serge, aged six to ten, twenty years younger than he is. Serge takes the lead in everything; Jonathan does whatever Serge wants.
* In Michael Lowenthal's ''Avoidance'', the protagonist works as assistant director of a boys' summer camp where there is a strong emphasis on men mentoring boys. Turns out that some of the men are attracted to the boys and use the mentor role to force themselves on them.
* ''Les amitiés particulières'' (''This Special Friendship''), Roger Peyrefitte's classic novel set in a Jesuit school. Fourteen-year-old Georges has this kind of love affair with twelve-year-old Alexandre. Georges also has a friend his own age, Lucien, who's involved in a similar relationship with sixteen-year-old André.
* ''Les Garçons'', by Henri de Montherlant, another Jesuit-boarding-school tale, based on Montherlant's own boyhood. Relationships following this trope are common and accepted, even encouraged, among the boys. The heroic sixteen-year-old protagonist is very anxious to be a good mentor to his fourteen-year-old beloved, to the point of being willing to sacrifice the sex and even the relationship itself, and disapproves of the attitude of some of the other older boys, who are just in their relationships for the kicks.
* Lover / beloved affairs are also the done thing in ''Lord Dismiss Us'', yet another boys' boarding school story, from England this time. Somewhat subverted in that sixteen-year-old Allen is more mature than eighteen-year-old Carleton, his lover.
* Subverted in Tony Duvert's ''Quand Mourut Jonathan'' (''When Jonathan Died''). An artist, Jonathan, has a four-year relationship with a boy, Serge, aged six to ten, twenty years younger than he is. Serge takes the lead in everything; Jonathan does whatever Serge wants.
* In Michael Lowenthal's ''Avoidance'', the protagonist works as assistant director of a boys' summer camp where there is a strong emphasis on men mentoring boys. Turns out that some of the men are attracted to the boys and use the mentor role to force themselves on them.
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* Sanzo and Goku from {{Saiyuki}} tends to fall into this, though it is strictly in the HoYay territoy.
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* {{LOVELESS}}'s Soubi and Ritsuka maybe have been inspired by this trope, though Soubi's "name" is Beloved, and Ritsuka's is Loveless, despite the latter being the younger in the pair.
* {{LOVELESS}}'s Soubi and Ritsuka maybe have been inspired by this trope, though Soubi's "name" is Beloved, and Ritsuka's is Loveless, despite the latter being the younger in the pair.
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* Sanzo and Goku from {{Saiyuki}} tends to fall into this, though it is strictly in the HoYay territoy.
* Sanzo and Goku from {{Saiyuki}} tends to fall into this, though it is strictly in the HoYay territoy.
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* The ''{{Nightrunner}}'' series has Seregil in the mentor role and Alec as the student. Interestingly, it was the [[UnequalPairing inequality in this pairing]] that kept Seregil distant for sometime. After two books worth of [[HoYay subtext]], they finally received an [[RelationshipTextUpgrade upgrade]].
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* The ''{{Nightrunner}}'' series has Seregil in the mentor role and Alec as the student. Interestingly, it was the [[UnequalPairing inequality in this pairing]] that kept Seregil distant for sometime. After two books worth of [[HoYay subtext]], they finally received an [[RelationshipTextUpgrade [[RelationshipUpgrade upgrade]].
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* In Marvel's ''TheIncredibleHercules'', most of the Greek gods assume Hercules and [[TeenGenius Amadeus Cho]] have this relationship. Amadeus always angrily corrects them.
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* In Marvel's ''TheIncredibleHercules'', most of the Greek gods assume (incorrectly) Hercules and [[TeenGenius Amadeus Cho]] have this relationship. Amadeus always angrily corrects them.
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* Anafiel Delunay and Alcuin in ''KushielsDart''
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** The Takeshi Kitano film ''Taboo'' explores this practice, although with possible UnfortunateImplications.
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* In Marvel's ''TheIncredibleHercules'', most of the Greek gods assume Hercules and [[TeenGenius Amadeus Cho]] have this relationship. Amadeus always angrily corrects them.
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-->''"The love that dare not speak its name" in this century is such a great affection of an elder for a younger man...It is intellectual, and it repeatedly exists between an older and a younger man, when the older man has intellect, and the younger man has all the joy, hope and glamour of life before him.''
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* In ''Magic's Price'' of the ''HeraldsOfValdemar'' series, Vanyel's DoppelgangerReplacementLoveInterest, Stefan, is much younger than he is. Initially Vanyel plays the mentor role to the young bard, refusing even the slightest hint of sexual attraction, but eventually the [[MindlinkMates lifebond]] between the two becomes impossible to deny.
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* [[spoiler: Steve Traynor's and Wulf's]] relationship began this way, but by the time of TopTen, they've been a couple for about 30 years.
* [[spoiler: Steve Traynor's and Wulf's]] relationship began this way, but by the time of TopTen, they've been a couple for about 30 years.
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This trope originates in ancient Greece, with their custom of homosexual pederasty. The Greek words for this trope are "Erastes" and "Eromenos." All but a ForgottenTrope nowadays, dur to potentially {{squick}}y AllGaysArePedophiles or ParentalIncest [[UnfortunateImplications vibes]]. It may, however, show up in TheTwink's ComingOutStory nowadays, and the social circle the older partner leads the younger into is likely to be [[WhereEverybodyKnowsYourFlame the gay community]].
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This trope originates in ancient Greece, with their custom of homosexual pederasty. The Greek words for this trope are "Erastes" and "Eromenos." All but a ForgottenTrope nowadays, dur due to potentially {{squick}}y AllGaysArePedophiles or ParentalIncest [[UnfortunateImplications vibes]]. It may, however, show up in TheTwink's ComingOutStory nowadays, and the social circle the older partner leads the younger into is likely to be [[WhereEverybodyKnowsYourFlame the gay community]].
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Say Bob and Charlie are not family, but are close to one another. ''[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean Really]]'' close. Bob is younger than Charlie, and Charlie is [[{{Mentors}} quite happy to take Bob under his wing.]] He guides Bob to his place, whether in the world or simply in one social circle. However, Bob and Charlie's affection for each other is [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean a bit]] [[HoYay more]] [[LoveInterest than fatherly]].
Say Bob and Charlie are not family, but are close to one another. ''[[IfYouKnowWhatIMean Really]]'' close. Bob is younger than Charlie, and Charlie is [[{{Mentors}} quite happy to take Bob under his wing.]] He guides Bob to his place, whether in the world or simply in one social circle. However, Bob and Charlie's affection for each other is [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean a bit]] [[HoYay more]] [[LoveInterest than fatherly]].
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This trope originates in ancient Greece, with their custom of homosexual pederasty. The Greek words for this trope are "Erastes" and "Eromenos." All but a ForgottenTrope nowadays, dur to potentially {{squick}}y AllGaysArePedophiles or ParentalIncest [[UnfortunateImplications vibes.]] vibes]]. It may, however, show up in TheTwink's ComingOutStory nowadays, and the social circle the older partner leads the younger into is likely to be [[WhereEverybodyKnowsYourFlame the gay community.]]
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* Achilles and Patroclus, arguably.
** Complicated/inverted by the fact that while Patroclus is older, Achilles is the leader and teacher in their relationship. They start [[{{AnachronismStew}} falling into this trope]] in the [[{{AncientGreece}} 5th century]] when ErastesEromenos was the social norm.
** Complicated/inverted by the fact that while Patroclus is older, Achilles is the leader and teacher in their relationship. They start [[{{AnachronismStew}} falling into this trope]] in the [[{{AncientGreece}} 5th century]] when ErastesEromenos was the social norm.
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**arguably. Complicated/inverted by the fact that while Patroclus is older, Achilles is the leader and teacher in their relationship. relationship. They start [[{{AnachronismStew}} falling into this trope]] in the [[{{AncientGreece}} 5th century]] when ErastesEromenos was the social norm.
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