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22nd Jan '16 6:08:31 PM nombretomado
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* In StephenFry's ''The Liar'', the main character writes a play with a Victorian setting, in which a man rescues a 14-year-old boy from prostitution but then, to his horror, kind of accidentally sleeps with him. Said main character is in love with a slightly younger boy at his [[OneGenderSchool boys']] [[BoardingSchool school]] and also spends a while [[spoiler: ...or does he?]] as a prostitute working Piccadilly Circus, picked up by older men. He's in his later teens at this point; some of the other boy prostitutes are as young as 11.
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* In StephenFry's Creator/StephenFry's ''The Liar'', the main character writes a play with a Victorian setting, in which a man rescues a 14-year-old boy from prostitution but then, to his horror, kind of accidentally sleeps with him. Said main character is in love with a slightly younger boy at his [[OneGenderSchool boys']] [[BoardingSchool school]] and also spends a while [[spoiler: ...or does he?]] as a prostitute working Piccadilly Circus, picked up by older men. He's in his later teens at this point; some of the other boy prostitutes are as young as 11.
29th Dec '15 2:14:44 AM Andygal
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* In ''Magic's Price'' of the ''HeraldsOfValdemar'' series, Vanyel's DoppelgangerReplacementLoveInterest, Stefan, is much younger than he is. Initially Vanyel plays the mentor role to the young bard, refusing even the slightest hint of sexual attraction, but eventually the [[MindlinkMates lifebond]] between the two becomes impossible to deny.
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* In ''Magic's Price'' of the ''HeraldsOfValdemar'' ''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'' series, Vanyel's DoppelgangerReplacementLoveInterest, Stefan, is much younger than he is. Initially Vanyel plays the mentor role to the young bard, refusing even the slightest hint of sexual attraction, but eventually the [[MindlinkMates lifebond]] between the two becomes impossible to deny.
19th Dec '15 8:04:08 AM DoctorCooper
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4th Nov '15 4:54:59 PM nombretomado
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* In ''TopTen'', DaChief Steve Traynor and his partner Wulf have been a couple for about 30 years, but the prequel graphic novel ''The 49ers'' revealed that their relationship started when Steve was still a teenager and Wulf was over ten years older. It attempts to avoid the more dubious elements of this trope by having Steve actively pursue Wulf, and Wulf at one point explicitly challenge Steve about whether he's emotionally mature enough for a relationship. * In Marvel's ''TheIncredibleHercules'', most of the Greek gods assume (incorrectly) Hercules and [[TeenGenius Amadeus Cho]] have this relationship. Amadeus always angrily corrects them.
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* In ''TopTen'', ''ComicBook/TopTen'', DaChief Steve Traynor and his partner Wulf have been a couple for about 30 years, but the prequel graphic novel ''The 49ers'' revealed that their relationship started when Steve was still a teenager and Wulf was over ten years older. It attempts to avoid the more dubious elements of this trope by having Steve actively pursue Wulf, and Wulf at one point explicitly challenge Steve about whether he's emotionally mature enough for a relationship. * In Marvel's ''TheIncredibleHercules'', ''ComicBook/TheIncredibleHercules'', most of the Greek gods assume (incorrectly) Hercules and [[TeenGenius Amadeus Cho]] have this relationship. Amadeus always angrily corrects them.
7th Oct '15 12:49:54 PM Yahya
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This trope originates in ancient Greece, with their custom of homosexual pederasty. The Greek words for this trope are "erastes" (lover) and "eromenos" (beloved). A very similar system developed independently in Japan, where the partners are the ''nenja'' ("man who loves") and his ''wakashu'' ("young person")[[note]]''wakashu'' technically covers any boy between early childhood and adulthood, and was also used outside of relationship contexts, but by the end of the Edo period it pretty much meant "{{uke}}"[[/note]]. High-ranking Chinese courtiers and Buddhist monks also took younger male lovers fairly often, but in a less formal system than in Greece and Japan.
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This trope originates in ancient Greece, with their custom of homosexual pederasty. The Greek words for this trope are "erastes" (lover) and "eromenos" (beloved). A very similar system developed independently in Japan, where the partners are the ''nenja'' ("man who loves") and his ''wakashu'' ("young person")[[note]]''wakashu'' technically covers any boy between early childhood and adulthood, and was also used outside of relationship contexts, but by the end of the Edo period it pretty much meant "{{uke}}"[[/note]]. High-ranking Chinese courtiers and Buddhist monks also took younger male lovers fairly often, but in a less formal system than in Greece and Japan.
10th Sep '15 3:02:52 AM LondonKdS
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* In ''ComicBook/{{Three}}'', the two Spartan noblemen and close friends Kleomenes and Tyrtaios had this relationship in the past, although according to [[ValuesDissonance Ancient Greek mores]] the sexual part of it ended when Tyrtaios finished puberty.
7th Jul '15 6:38:56 PM MagBas
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unfortunate implications need citations
All but a ForgottenTrope nowadays, due to potentially {{squick}}y AllGaysArePedophiles or ParentalIncest [[UnfortunateImplications vibes]]. It may, however, show up in TheTwink's ComingOutStory nowadays, and the social circle the older partner leads the younger into is likely to be [[WhereEverybodyKnowsYourFlame the gay community]].
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All but a ForgottenTrope nowadays, due to potentially {{squick}}y AllGaysArePedophiles or ParentalIncest [[UnfortunateImplications vibes]].nowadays. It may, however, show up in TheTwink's ComingOutStory nowadays, and the social circle the older partner leads the younger into is likely to be [[WhereEverybodyKnowsYourFlame the gay community]].
30th Jun '15 6:50:11 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''VictorVictoria'' (1982), this trope is Victoria's cover story: she disguises herself as a young man in this sort of relationship with the older Toddy.
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* In ''VictorVictoria'' ''Film/VictorVictoria'' (1982), this trope is Victoria's cover story: she disguises herself as a young man in this sort of relationship with the older Toddy.

* In ''Abuse'' (1983) by Arthur Bressan, who spent most of his career making gay porn films, a 31-year-old gay film student is making a documentary about child abuse. He meets Thomas, a somewhat effeminate 14-year-old whose parents have brutally physically mistreated him for the past six years, and Thomas becomes the centrepiece of the documentary. Thomas is also gay and becomes interested in the filmmaker. They have a relationship, and eventually [[spoiler: run away together so that Thomas can escape from his awful parents.]] Bressan says this was based on his own experiences with a real boy like Thomas; they became "friends, then lovers, then finally ex-lovers", although, as in the film, Bressan's friends disapproved of Bressan's being involved with such a young boy. This film was praised by Vito Russo, author of TheCelluloidCloset.
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* In ''Abuse'' (1983) by Arthur Bressan, who spent most of his career making gay porn films, a 31-year-old gay film student is making a documentary about child abuse. He meets Thomas, a somewhat effeminate 14-year-old whose parents have brutally physically mistreated him for the past six years, and Thomas becomes the centrepiece of the documentary. Thomas is also gay and becomes interested in the filmmaker. They have a relationship, and eventually [[spoiler: run away together so that Thomas can escape from his awful parents.]] Bressan says this was based on his own experiences with a real boy like Thomas; they became "friends, then lovers, then finally ex-lovers", although, as in the film, Bressan's friends disapproved of Bressan's being involved with such a young boy. This film was praised by Vito Russo, author of TheCelluloidCloset.Film/TheCelluloidCloset.
15th Jun '15 4:52:13 AM TrollBrutal
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Not an example then, one has to be much older, just read descritption
* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Before the start of the series, Lord Renly Baratheon had the role of Lover and Ser Loras Tyrell was his Beloved. The [[http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/season2/#!/guide/houses/tyrell/loras-tyrell/ HBO Viewer's Guide]] mentions that Loras had served as Renly's squire (which does occur in the novels), and they presumably developed romantic feelings for each other while Loras was still under Renly's care because by the time Season 1 begins, the two men are already in a long-term relationship. Loras had started fantasizing about Renly as his "bride" in "green and gold brocade" (Renly wore a green brocade cloak at the Tourney of the Hand) at a young age. The {{Squick}} which is normally associated with this trope is downplayed because Lord Renly is only 4 years older than Loras, [[note]]in the books, they were born in 278AL and 282AL, respectively[[/note]] and therefore would've been a brotherly (and not fatherly) figure to his squire. It also helps that Renly is a sweet person, Loras is the emotionally dominant partner, and they are one of the few happy couples on the show.
10th May '15 10:01:05 PM nombretomado
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* Possibly subverted on ''{{Glee}}''. [[StraightGay Blaine]] is initially set up as [[CampGay Kurt's]] SexyMentor, and he helps Kurt deal with bullying, but it's later revealed that Blaine is actually ''younger'' than Kurt.
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* Possibly subverted on ''{{Glee}}''.''Series/{{Glee}}''. [[StraightGay Blaine]] is initially set up as [[CampGay Kurt's]] SexyMentor, and he helps Kurt deal with bullying, but it's later revealed that Blaine is actually ''younger'' than Kurt.
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