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19th Apr '17 6:20:20 PM genisgone
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* The latter half of season three of Series/{{Hannibal}} [[TheyDo reveals this as its endgame for Will and the titular psychopath]]. While Will is an adult in his early thirties, he's about a decade younger than Hannibal, highly vulnerable and susceptible to manipulation, and [[MrFanservice quite easy on the eyes]]; Hannibal in return is older, highly educated, appreciative of the Classics in art, music, and philosophy, and [[ImAHumanitarian has rather epicurean tastes]]. What starts out as an amusing side project to see how far Will can pushed before he snaps becomes something else entirely as Lector becomes more and more obsessed with proving to Will that they are the same. Hannibal instructs Will on a wide variety of subjects and the two have a series long, protracted debate about the ethics of murder, and artistic perception and appreciation of suffering as divine. [[InLoveWithYourCarnage Ultimately, Will capitulates, working with Hannibal to violently murder another serial killer and afterwards admitting that he thought of it as beautiful]], [[TakingYouWithMen before embracing Hannibal and throwing them both off a cliff and into the sea]]. Season three's Italian setting and continual references to Greco-Roman art, philosophy, and aesthetics cement the connection.

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* The latter half of season three of Series/{{Hannibal}} [[TheyDo reveals this as its endgame for Will and the titular psychopath]]. While Will is an adult in his early thirties, he's about a decade younger than Hannibal, highly vulnerable and susceptible to manipulation, and [[MrFanservice quite easy on the eyes]]; Hannibal in return is older, highly educated, appreciative of the Classics in art, music, and philosophy, and [[ImAHumanitarian has rather epicurean tastes]]. What starts out as an amusing side project to see how far Will can pushed before he snaps becomes something else entirely as Lector becomes more and more obsessed with proving to Will that they are the same. Hannibal instructs Will on a wide variety of subjects and the two have a series long, protracted debate about the ethics of murder, and artistic perception and appreciation of suffering as divine. [[InLoveWithYourCarnage Ultimately, Will capitulates, working with Hannibal to violently murder another serial killer and afterwards admitting that he thought of it as beautiful]], [[TakingYouWithMen [[TakingYouWithMe before embracing Hannibal and throwing them both off a cliff and into the sea]]. Season three's Italian setting and continual references to Greco-Roman art, philosophy, and aesthetics cement the connection.
19th Apr '17 6:19:52 PM genisgone
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All but a ForgottenTrope nowadays. It may, however, show up in TheTwink's ComingOutStory nowadays, and the social circle the older partner leads the younger into is likely to be [[WhereEverybodyKnowsYourFlame the gay community]].

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All but a ForgottenTrope nowadays. It may, however, show up in TheTwink's ComingOutStory nowadays, ComingOutStory, and the social circle the older partner leads the younger into is likely to be [[WhereEverybodyKnowsYourFlame the gay community]].


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* The latter half of season three of Series/{{Hannibal}} [[TheyDo reveals this as its endgame for Will and the titular psychopath]]. While Will is an adult in his early thirties, he's about a decade younger than Hannibal, highly vulnerable and susceptible to manipulation, and [[MrFanservice quite easy on the eyes]]; Hannibal in return is older, highly educated, appreciative of the Classics in art, music, and philosophy, and [[ImAHumanitarian has rather epicurean tastes]]. What starts out as an amusing side project to see how far Will can pushed before he snaps becomes something else entirely as Lector becomes more and more obsessed with proving to Will that they are the same. Hannibal instructs Will on a wide variety of subjects and the two have a series long, protracted debate about the ethics of murder, and artistic perception and appreciation of suffering as divine. [[InLoveWithYourCarnage Ultimately, Will capitulates, working with Hannibal to violently murder another serial killer and afterwards admitting that he thought of it as beautiful]], [[TakingYouWithMen before embracing Hannibal and throwing them both off a cliff and into the sea]]. Season three's Italian setting and continual references to Greco-Roman art, philosophy, and aesthetics cement the connection.
30th Mar '17 1:22:03 AM BackgroundGuy
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* Parodied on ''Series/InLivingColor'', as in the first edition of ''Men on Film'' CampGay critic Blaine Edwards says he disliked ''Film/TheKarateKidPartIII'' because it had too much fighting and no romance between the two lead characters. Given the terms he uses, Blaine is clearly describing this trope. Although co-reviewer Antoine Merriweather, also Camp Gay, felt the violence made the movie more arousing to him, he agreed with Blaine that having this sort of relationship between the two main characters would have been great. Notably, it's the only sketch to feature the duo that had anything to do with this trope.
29th Mar '17 4:36:15 PM WillBGood
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* Achilles and Patroclus, arguably. Complicated/inverted by the fact that while Patroclus is older, Achilles is the leader and teacher in their relationship. They start [[AnachronismStew falling into this trope]] in the [[AncientGreece 5th century]] when ErastesEromenos was the social norm.

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* Achilles and Patroclus, arguably. Complicated/inverted by the fact that while Patroclus is older, Achilles is the leader and teacher in their relationship. They start [[AnachronismStew falling into this trope]] in the [[AncientGreece 5th century]] when ErastesEromenos erastes and eromenos was the social norm.
18th Jan '17 4:42:04 PM ectostar
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Say Bob and Charlie are not family, but are close to one another. ''Really'' close. Bob is younger than Charlie, and Charlie is [[{{Mentors}} quite happy to take Bob under his wing]]. He guides Bob to his place, whether in the world or simply in one social circle. However, Bob and Charlie's affection for each other is [[HoYay a bit more]] [[LoveInterest than fatherly]].

This dynamic applies to a gay couple (or simply an [[HoYay ambiguous]] one) in which one partner is much older and acts as a {{mentor}} to another. In this dynamic, Charlie is most often powerful and successful, and Bob is most often attractive in [[PrettyBoy one way]] or [[MrFanservice another]], as well as an {{Uke}}.

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Say Bob and Charlie Charles are not family, but are close to one another. ''Really'' close. Bob is younger than Charlie, Charles, and Charlie Charles is [[{{Mentors}} quite happy to take Bob under his wing]]. He guides Bob to his place, whether in the world or simply in one social circle. However, Bob and Charlie's Charles' affection for each other is [[HoYay a bit more]] [[LoveInterest than fatherly]].

This dynamic applies to a gay couple (or simply an [[HoYay ambiguous]] one) in which one partner is much older and acts as a {{mentor}} to another. In this dynamic, Charlie Charles is most often powerful and successful, and Bob is most often attractive in [[PrettyBoy one way]] or [[MrFanservice another]], as well as an {{Uke}}.



* ''Die Konsequenz'' (''The Consequence'') (1977), based on an autobiographical novel of the same name by Alexander Ziegler. Martin, an actor of about 30, is, like Ziegler was, sent to prison for sex with his 15-year-old boyfriend -- who now has a girlfriend. Martin meets Thomas, the 16-year-old gay son of the prison warder, and the two fall in love and, at Thomas's instigation, have sex. When Martin gets out of prison he finds that Thomas's parents and boss reject Thomas because of his homosexuality, so he and Thomas leave town together, get an apartment and plan for Thomas to go back to school. However, Thomas is taken away by social services and sent to a very unpleasant home for delinquent boys. Martin breaks him out, but Thomas ends up with an older man who says he'll help him but instead blackmails him into becoming his boyfriend. Then the older man throws Thomas out and Thomas becomes a [[TheOldestProfession prostitute]] and finally, having nowhere else to go, returns to the boys' home. At 21 he is released and he and Martin, who in the meantime has had a casual boyfriend nearer his own age, reunite, but [[spoiler: Thomas seems irretrievably damaged. He attempts suicide and then runs away from hospital, and there the film ends.]]

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* ''Die Konsequenz'' (''The Consequence'') (1977), based on an autobiographical novel of the same name by Alexander Ziegler. Martin, an actor of about 30, is, like Ziegler was, sent to prison for sex with his 15-year-old boyfriend -- who now has a girlfriend. Martin meets Thomas, the 16-year-old gay son of the prison warder, and the two fall in love and, at Thomas's Thomas' instigation, have sex. When Martin gets out of prison he finds that Thomas's Thomas' parents and boss reject Thomas because of his homosexuality, so he and Thomas leave town together, get an apartment and plan for Thomas to go back to school. However, Thomas is taken away by social services and sent to a very unpleasant home for delinquent boys. Martin breaks him out, but Thomas ends up with an older man who says he'll help him but instead blackmails him into becoming his boyfriend. Then the older man throws Thomas out and Thomas becomes a [[TheOldestProfession prostitute]] and finally, having nowhere else to go, returns to the boys' home. At 21 he is released and he and Martin, who in the meantime has had a casual boyfriend nearer his own age, reunite, but [[spoiler: Thomas seems irretrievably damaged. He attempts suicide and then runs away from hospital, and there the film ends.]]



* ''The Priest and the Acolyte'', a short story by Oxford undergraduate John Francis Bloxam, who had also written a couple of romantic poems about boys. In the story, a 28-year-old Anglo-Catholic [[PedophilePriest priest]] and a 14-year-old acolyte (all acolytes were boys then, of course) fall in love with each other. The boy is the one who starts their relationship: he comes to the priest's room at night and confesses his love. They [[ChastityCouple don't have sex]], but they kiss and hug and at night they spend hours together in the priest's rooms, the acolyte sitting on the priest's lap. Their love brings them both happiness and helps them conduct Mass better too. Eventually another priest, the protagonist's superior, discovers them together, whereat the protagonist responds to this other priest's condemnation with a passionate defense of his own nature and his love for the boy. Afraid of the fallout, and wanting to be together forever, the priest and the acolyte commit suicide together by drinking poisoned Communion wine at a two-person Mass, said by the priest and served at by the acolyte, for the repose of their own souls. This story appeared in the first and only edition of Bloxam's periodical ''The Chameleon: a Bazaar of Dangerous and Smiling Chances''. Bosie Douglas's poem ''Two Loves'', containing the line "I am the Love that dares not speak its name" also appeared in this magazine. The contents of the magazine were used against Creator/OscarWilde at his trial, giving Wilde the opportunity to make the speech in which he said: " 'The Love that dare not speak its name' in this century is such a great affection of an elder for a younger man as there was between [[AsTheGoodBookSays David and Jonathan]], such as Creator/{{Plato}} made the very basis of his philosophy, and such as you find in the sonnets of Michelangelo and [[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespeare]]. It is that deep [[ChastityCouple spiritual]] affection that is as pure as it is perfect. It dictates and pervades great works of art, like those of Shakespeare and Michelangelo, and those two letters of mine, such as they are. It is in this century misunderstood ... It is beautiful, it is fine, it is the noblest form of affection. There is nothing unnatural about it. ... The world mocks at it, and sometimes puts one in the pillory for it." This speech got Wilde a standing ovation. Wilde also said that ''The Priest and the Acolyte'' was badly written but refused to condemn it as immoral; this refusal weighed heavily against him. While Wilde's health was being broken in prison, and then while he was dying in exile, Bloxam became an Anglo-Catholic [[PedophilePriest priest]] and lived a quiet and apparently blameless life, well-liked by his parishioners.

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* ''The Priest and the Acolyte'', a short story by Oxford undergraduate John Francis Bloxam, who had also written a couple of romantic poems about boys. In the story, a 28-year-old Anglo-Catholic [[PedophilePriest priest]] and a 14-year-old acolyte (all acolytes were boys then, of course) fall in love with each other. The boy is the one who starts their relationship: he comes to the priest's room at night and confesses his love. They [[ChastityCouple don't have sex]], but they kiss and hug and at night they spend hours together in the priest's rooms, the acolyte sitting on the priest's lap. Their love brings them both happiness and helps them conduct Mass better too. Eventually another priest, the protagonist's superior, discovers them together, whereat the protagonist responds to this other priest's condemnation with a passionate defense of his own nature and his love for the boy. Afraid of the fallout, and wanting to be together forever, the priest and the acolyte commit suicide together by drinking poisoned Communion wine at a two-person Mass, said by the priest and served at by the acolyte, for the repose of their own souls. This story appeared in the first and only edition of Bloxam's periodical ''The Chameleon: a Bazaar of Dangerous and Smiling Chances''. Bosie Douglas's Douglas' poem ''Two Loves'', containing the line "I am the Love that dares not speak its name" also appeared in this magazine. The contents of the magazine were used against Creator/OscarWilde at his trial, giving Wilde the opportunity to make the speech in which he said: " 'The Love that dare not speak its name' in this century is such a great affection of an elder for a younger man as there was between [[AsTheGoodBookSays David and Jonathan]], such as Creator/{{Plato}} made the very basis of his philosophy, and such as you find in the sonnets of Michelangelo and [[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespeare]]. It is that deep [[ChastityCouple spiritual]] affection that is as pure as it is perfect. It dictates and pervades great works of art, like those of Shakespeare and Michelangelo, and those two letters of mine, such as they are. It is in this century misunderstood ... It is beautiful, it is fine, it is the noblest form of affection. There is nothing unnatural about it. ... The world mocks at it, and sometimes puts one in the pillory for it." This speech got Wilde a standing ovation. Wilde also said that ''The Priest and the Acolyte'' was badly written but refused to condemn it as immoral; this refusal weighed heavily against him. While Wilde's health was being broken in prison, and then while he was dying in exile, Bloxam became an Anglo-Catholic [[PedophilePriest priest]] and lived a quiet and apparently blameless life, well-liked by his parishioners.



* In Fritz Peters's ''Finistère'', published in 1951, one of the first mainstream novels with homosexual themes, a 12-year-old boy [[PrecociousCrush crushes]] on a grown man, a friend of his family. Then, when 15 and at a [[OneGenderSchool boys']] BoardingSchool, he has a [[TeacherStudentRomance love affair]] with a male teacher in his late 20s.

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* In Fritz Peters's Peters' ''Finistère'', published in 1951, one of the first mainstream novels with homosexual themes, a 12-year-old boy [[PrecociousCrush crushes]] on a grown man, a friend of his family. Then, when 15 and at a [[OneGenderSchool boys']] BoardingSchool, he has a [[TeacherStudentRomance love affair]] with a male teacher in his late 20s.



* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' has Renly Baratheon and Loras Tyrell; [[AmbiguouslyGay although never said outright]], they most likely had this relationship during Loras's time as Renly's squire.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' has Renly Baratheon and Loras Tyrell; [[AmbiguouslyGay although never said outright]], they most likely had this relationship during Loras's Loras' time as Renly's squire.



* Also by Shakespeare, Achilles and Patroclus in ''Theatre/TroilusAndCressida'' probably are an example of this. At any rate, Thersites refers to Patroclus as Achilles's "masculine whore", and Patroclus is highly offended at the insulting choice of words but doesn't '''deny''' it.

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* Also by Shakespeare, Achilles and Patroclus in ''Theatre/TroilusAndCressida'' probably are an example of this. At any rate, Thersites refers to Patroclus as Achilles's Achilles' "masculine whore", and Patroclus is highly offended at the insulting choice of words but doesn't '''deny''' it.
18th Jan '17 4:35:55 PM ectostar
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See also {{Seme}}, {{Uke}}, SenpaiKohai, TeacherStudentRomance, and Myth/ClassicalMythology. The heterosexual version of this is the SexyMentor and/or MentorShip.

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See also {{Seme}}, {{Uke}}, SenpaiKohai, TeacherStudentRomance, SexyMentor, MentorShip and Myth/ClassicalMythology. The heterosexual version of this is the SexyMentor and/or MentorShip.
Myth/ClassicalMythology.
11th Jan '17 10:55:42 PM ectostar
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6th Jan '17 8:02:56 AM SeptimusHeap
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* LittleMissSunshine, a popular family comedy from 2006. Frank, a renowned Proust scholar (Proust was gay) fell in love with a male [[TeacherStudentRomance graduate student of his]]. This younger man left him -- for another older man, Frank's rival Proust scholar. Being upset, Frank acted up and got kicked out of his job. Then he couldn't pay the rent and got kicked out of his apartment. Then he found out that his rival in [[FreudWasRight love and work]] had won an honour instead of him. So he [[DrivenToSuicide slit his wrists]]...but he survived. The film begins with him in hospital.

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* LittleMissSunshine, a popular family comedy from 2006. Frank, a renowned Proust scholar (Proust was gay) fell in love with a male [[TeacherStudentRomance graduate student of his]]. This younger man left him -- for another older man, Frank's rival Proust scholar. Being upset, Frank acted up and got kicked out of his job. Then he couldn't pay the rent and got kicked out of his apartment. Then he found out that his rival in [[FreudWasRight love and work]] work had won an honour instead of him. So he [[DrivenToSuicide slit his wrists]]...but he survived. The film begins with him in hospital.
14th Dec '16 4:35:26 AM Oecchi
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* Yuri and Victor's relationship gradually takes on more and more aspects of this in ''Anime/YuriOnIce'', though it's downplayed since Victor is only four years older than Yuri. Victor coaches and mentors Yuri to become a better figure skater, and Yuri learns to become more confident in his skating. The subtext between them becomes very hard to ignore...[[spoiler:at least until episode 7, when Victor kisses Yuri and they become the OfficialCouple, and by episode 10 they're engaged.]]

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* Yuri and Victor's relationship gradually takes on more and more aspects of this in ''Anime/YuriOnIce'', though it's the age difference is downplayed since Victor is only four years older than Yuri. Victor coaches and mentors Yuri to become a better figure skater, and Yuri learns to become more confident in his skating. The subtext between them becomes very hard to ignore...[[spoiler:at least until episode 7, when Victor kisses Yuri and they become the OfficialCouple, and by episode 10 they're engaged.]]
12th Dec '16 10:40:55 AM Oecchi
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* Yuri and Victor's relationship gradually takes on more and more aspects of this in ''Anime/YuriOnice'', though it's downplayed since Victor is only four years older than Yuri. Victor coaches and mentors Yuri to become a better figure skater, and Yuri learns to become more confident in his skating. The subtext between them becomes very hard to ignore...[[spoiler:at least until episode 7, when Victor kisses Yuri and they become the OfficialCouple, and by episode 10 they're engaged.]]

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* Yuri and Victor's relationship gradually takes on more and more aspects of this in ''Anime/YuriOnice'', ''Anime/YuriOnIce'', though it's downplayed since Victor is only four years older than Yuri. Victor coaches and mentors Yuri to become a better figure skater, and Yuri learns to become more confident in his skating. The subtext between them becomes very hard to ignore...[[spoiler:at least until episode 7, when Victor kisses Yuri and they become the OfficialCouple, and by episode 10 they're engaged.]]
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