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oh, this is specific to computers


* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hardest_Logic_Puzzle_Ever The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever]] tasks the player with figuring out the identity of three gods, [[KnightsAndKnaves one who speaks only truth, one who speaks only lies, and one who answers randomly]], with only three yes-or-no questions, and not knowing which of their two possible answers means "yes" or "no". A variant allows for a third answer -- if a question is constructed such that neither "yes" nor "no" is a valid answer to the question under their role, [[YourHeadASplode their head explodes]].
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* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hardest_Logic_Puzzle_Ever The Hardest Logic Puzzle Ever]] tasks the player with figuring out the identity of three gods, [[KnightsAndKnaves one who speaks only truth, one who speaks only lies, and one who answers randomly]], with only three yes-or-no questions, and not knowing which of their two possible answers means "yes" or "no". A variant allows for a third answer -- if a question is constructed such that neither "yes" nor "no" is a valid answer to the question under their role, [[YourHeadASplode their head explodes]].
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[[quoteblock]]->''"I cannot -- yet I must! How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do 'must' and 'cannot' meet?"''
-->-- '''Ro-Man''', ''Film/RobotMonster''[[/quoteblock]]


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[[quoteblock]]->''"I ->''"I cannot -- yet I must! How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do 'must' and 'cannot' meet?"''
-->-- '''Ro-Man''', ''Film/RobotMonster''[[/quoteblock]]

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->'''[[VideoGame/Borderlands2 Claptrap:]]''' You know what really ticks me off? When some jackwad tries to blow my circuitry with some lame-o stunt he saw on a ''Franchise/StarTrek'' re-run.\\
'''[[VideoGame/SamAndMaxFreelancePolice Sam:]]''' What, like, "Everything I say is a lie?"\\
'''Claptrap:''' Yeah, like that! What, do they think I'll just lock up, because of some teeny tiny logical paradox?\\
'''[[VideoGame/{{Portal}} GLaDOS:]]''' It is rather insulting. I learned how to avoid paradox traps while I was still in Beta.\\
'''Claptrap:''' So what if everything Sam says is a lie? That doesn't mean that he's lying about that, right? 'Cause then he'd be telling the truth and... [[OhCrap Ohhhh noooo...]] (''shuts down'')\\
(''{{beat}}'')\\
'''[=GLaDOS=]:''' [[DeadpanSnarker Well, that was a shining moment in the history of robotkind.]]\\
'''Claptrap:''' (''turns back on'') [[UnexplainedRecovery Annnnd I'm back.]]
-->-- ''VideoGame/PokerNight2''


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[[quoteblock]]->''"I cannot -- yet I must! How do you calculate that? At
what really ticks me off? When some jackwad tries to blow my circuitry with some lame-o stunt he saw point on a ''Franchise/StarTrek'' re-run.\\
'''[[VideoGame/SamAndMaxFreelancePolice Sam:]]''' What, like, "Everything I say is a lie?"\\
'''Claptrap:''' Yeah, like that! What, do they think I'll just lock up, because of some teeny tiny logical paradox?\\
'''[[VideoGame/{{Portal}} GLaDOS:]]''' It is rather insulting. I learned how to avoid paradox traps while I was still in Beta.\\
'''Claptrap:''' So what if everything Sam says is a lie? That doesn't mean that he's lying about that, right? 'Cause then he'd be telling
the truth and... [[OhCrap Ohhhh noooo...]] (''shuts down'')\\
(''{{beat}}'')\\
'''[=GLaDOS=]:''' [[DeadpanSnarker Well, that was a shining moment in the history of robotkind.]]\\
'''Claptrap:''' (''turns back on'') [[UnexplainedRecovery Annnnd I'm back.]]
graph do 'must' and 'cannot' meet?"''
-->-- ''VideoGame/PokerNight2''

'''Ro-Man''', ''Film/RobotMonster''[[/quoteblock]]

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* ''VideoGame/MissionImpossibleKonami'': The final challenge in the game is to stop the supercomputer from launching the missiles to start World War 3. You need to convince it there will be no winner in the war, and so you need to play a game of Madelinette against it, and end with no winner three times. This makes the computer go haywire trying to win the game, and shut down, aborting the launch.

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* ''VideoGame/MissionImpossibleKonami'': ''VideoGame/MissionImpossible1990'': The final challenge in the game is to stop the supercomputer from launching the missiles to start World War 3. You need to convince it there will be no winner in the war, and so you need to play a game of Madelinette against it, and end with no winner three times. This makes the computer go haywire trying to win the game, and shut down, aborting the launch.

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'''Gremlin:''' Aye.\\
'''DM:''' So you're agreeing with me? I thought that gremlins always contradict people.\\

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'''Gremlin:''' Aye.Aye, I will that, lad.\\
'''DM:''' So you're agreeing with me? me?\\
'''Gremlin:''' Aye!\\
'''DM:'''
I thought that gremlins always contradict people.\\
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"played straight" doesn't make sense for an accidental glitch. Also, far as I know, LLMs never "crash" due to weird/confusing inputs (unless you know of examples?)


** Played straight with [[https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kmWrwtGE9B9hpbgRT/a-search-for-more-chatgpt-gpt-3-5-gpt-4-unspeakable-glitch Glitch Tokens]], which are certain groups of words that will confuse [=LLMs=] with results ranging from being unable to repeat them properly to outright crashing when trying to say them. Every model has a different set of glitch tokens which depends on the tokenizer used to train them.

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** Played A straight with example are [[https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kmWrwtGE9B9hpbgRT/a-search-for-more-chatgpt-gpt-3-5-gpt-4-unspeakable-glitch Glitch Tokens]], which are certain groups of words characters that will confuse [=LLMs=] with results ranging from [=LLMs=], including being unable to repeat them properly to outright crashing when trying to say them.or outputting gibberish. Every model has a different set of glitch tokens which depends on the tokenizer used to train them.
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* ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' had a couple of killer robots proclaim their intent to kill someone who was currently using the toilet, but they inform him that they will wait until he is finished pooping, as poop is hard to clean from their processors. The guy tells them that he can't go if he knows they're going to kill him, and the robots realize they can'tkill him until he does go, causing them to explode. That same episode also has Myth/RobinHood mugging a rich person of their valuables, who protests that by stealing from the rich, they are currently poor, and if he gives the valuables back, the poor will be rich, who will then need to be robbed in order to give to the poor. This causes the robots to again explode.

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* ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' had a couple of killer robots proclaim their intent to kill someone who was currently using the toilet, but they inform him that they will wait until he is finished pooping, as poop is hard to clean from their processors. The guy tells them that he can't go if he knows they're going to kill him, and the robots realize they can'tkill can't kill him until he does go, causing them to explode. That same episode also has Myth/RobinHood mugging a rich person of their valuables, who protests that by stealing from the rich, they are currently poor, and if he gives the valuables back, the poor will be rich, who will then need to be robbed in order to give to the poor. This causes the robots to again explode.
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* ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' had a couple of killer robots proclaim their intent to kill someone who was currently using the toilet, but he asks them to wait until he finishes. They agree out of politeness, but he tells them that he can't go if he knows they're going to kill him. That same episode also has Myth/RobinHood mugging a rich person of their valuables, who protests that by stealing from the rich, they are currently poor, and if he gives the valuables back, the poor will be rich, who will then need to be robbed in order to give to the poor. This causes the robots to again explode.

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* ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' had a couple of killer robots proclaim their intent to kill someone who was currently using the toilet, but he asks them to they inform him that they will wait until he finishes. They agree out of politeness, but he is finished pooping, as poop is hard to clean from their processors. The guy tells them that he can't go if he knows they're going to kill him.him, and the robots realize they can'tkill him until he does go, causing them to explode. That same episode also has Myth/RobinHood mugging a rich person of their valuables, who protests that by stealing from the rich, they are currently poor, and if he gives the valuables back, the poor will be rich, who will then need to be robbed in order to give to the poor. This causes the robots to again explode.
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** Jason once asked his mother if Marcus could sleep-over. She said that it was all right with her, if it was all right with his father. Asking his father, he's told that it's fine with him, if it was all right with his mother. After the BeatPanel, he's shown consulting several logic books.
** An earlier strip featured Paige entering the same situation and just telling her friend "yeah, it's all right."

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** Jason once asked his mother if Marcus could sleep-over.sleep over. She said that it was all right with her, if it was all right with his father. Asking his father, he's told that it's fine with him, if it was all right with his mother. After the BeatPanel, he's shown consulting several logic books.
** An earlier strip featured Paige entering the same situation and just telling her friend "yeah, friend, "Yeah, it's all right." Justified in that one could take her parents' words to mean, "I have no objection. Check with your other parent to see if they object."

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