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24th Jul '16 5:48:49 PM kome360
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** [[FuturamaBendersGame In the third movie]], Bender has been driven insane from breaking his nerd circuit due to overexerting his imagination for Dungeons and Dragons. As Titanius Anglesmith (Fancy Man of Cornwood), he steals a load of Dark Matter and is committed to an insane asylum, so Dr. Perceptron performs a robot-lobotomy... and then ''he magically teleports into another world'' (using his imagination and the Dark Matter, which was undergoing a Higgs Boson due to Planet Express' antics at the north pole). The doctor's head explodes from the realization that he's the insane one (he isn't, but the actual situation is WAY beyond his computational parameters).
---> '''Dr. Perceptron''': ILLOGICAL. ILLOGICAL. Computational Overload.
---> '''Nurse''': But doctor, I love you.
---> *Boom*
23rd Jun '16 7:08:41 PM themisterfree
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** One time on ''Series/TheColbertReport'', he was using "The [=DaColbert=] Code" for some reason. It was basically a word-association game, and at one point he gets stuck in a loop, forcing him to come up with a new thing.
23rd Jun '16 7:06:06 PM themisterfree
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* In one episode of ''Series/MyNameIsEarl'', Randy gets stuck in a thought loop after hearing the words "Catalina" and "half-naked"; Earl says this also occurs whenever Randy watches ''BackToTheFuture''.
17th Jun '16 1:38:33 AM PaulA
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* DontShootTheMessage is a good example of a Logic Bomb that surfaces often in everyday life, at least where people's political or religious convictions are concerned. Let's say, to give a couple of examples, you're discussing Roman Catholic priests who molest children (and [[FriendToPsychos the faithful Catholics who attempt to cover up these incidents]], of course), or maybe the [[BourgeoisBohemian Bourgeois Bohemians]] who are such an image problem for modern American liberalism. Such people are said to be bad because [[{{Hypocrite}} they do not live up to the ideals they preach]] - but they are more often condemned by their ideological opponents than by decent people on their side who you'd think would urge the hypocrites to StopBeingStereotypical. Ideological opponents, of course, criticize a given movement because they think it's inherently bad. But if you don't actually believe in an ideology you say you believe in, and that ideology is bad, then logically you must be good. But it's unethical to live a lie, so you must be bad - even if what you're lying about is something that's bad in the first place, in which case undermining it is good, and so on ''ad infinitum''. Humorously summed up by OscarWilde in ''TheImportanceOfBeingEarnest'', when he has the character of Cecily say: "I hope you have not been leading a double life, pretending to be wicked and being really good all the time. That would be hypocrisy."

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* DontShootTheMessage is a good example of a Logic Bomb that surfaces often in everyday life, at least where people's political or religious convictions are concerned. Let's say, to give a couple of examples, you're discussing Roman Catholic priests who molest children (and [[FriendToPsychos the faithful Catholics who attempt to cover up these incidents]], of course), or maybe the [[BourgeoisBohemian Bourgeois Bohemians]] who are such an image problem for modern American liberalism. Such people are said to be bad because [[{{Hypocrite}} they do not live up to the ideals they preach]] - but they are more often condemned by their ideological opponents than by decent people on their side who you'd think would urge the hypocrites to StopBeingStereotypical. Ideological opponents, of course, criticize a given movement because they think it's inherently bad. But if you don't actually believe in an ideology you say you believe in, and that ideology is bad, then logically you must be good. But it's unethical to live a lie, so you must be bad - even if what you're lying about is something that's bad in the first place, in which case undermining it is good, and so on ''ad infinitum''. Humorously summed up by OscarWilde Creator/OscarWilde in ''TheImportanceOfBeingEarnest'', ''Theatre/TheImportanceOfBeingEarnest'', when he has the character of Cecily say: "I hope you have not been leading a double life, pretending to be wicked and being really good all the time. That would be hypocrisy."
15th Jun '16 3:08:08 AM Q4
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* In ''Radio/WelcomeToOurVillagePleaseInvadeCarefully'', the LogicBomb which destroys the (original) alien computer is... [[spoiler: the [[UsefulNotes/CricketRules Duckworth-Lewis method]] ]].
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11th Jun '16 10:40:54 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the book ''2095'' of the ''TimeWarpTrio'' series of books, the heroes deliver three of these to a robot that's pointing a rather menacing-looking gun at them and asking them for their "numbers". They give it numbers with infinite decimal expansions (10/3, sqrt(2), pi) and it crashes into a smoking pile (the numbers were actually ID numbers, akin to one's credit card number, and all the robots did was show holographic advertisements at them). All that advanced AI, brought down by a couple of lousy floating point numbers.

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* In the book ''2095'' of the ''TimeWarpTrio'' ''Literature/TimeWarpTrio'' series of books, the heroes deliver three of these to a robot that's pointing a rather menacing-looking gun at them and asking them for their "numbers". They give it numbers with infinite decimal expansions (10/3, sqrt(2), pi) and it crashes into a smoking pile (the numbers were actually ID numbers, akin to one's credit card number, and all the robots did was show holographic advertisements at them). All that advanced AI, brought down by a couple of lousy floating point numbers.



* In the climax of ''PerdidoStreetStation'', Isaac actually succeeds in using a Logic Bomb ''as a power source'' for his crisis engine, presenting an attached {{Clockpunk}} calculating machine with two things it concludes are, simultaneously, identical and inherently unalike. This doesn't shut the clockwork computer down, but the irreconcilable dilemma provides sufficient "crisis energy" to create a feedback loop with which to [[spoiler: bait the slake-moths into gorging themselves to death]].
* In Creator/MikhailAkhmanov's ''[[ArrivalsFromTheDark Invasion]]'', the [[HumanAliens Faata]] use telepathic biological computers to control their ships. It's revealed that these computers are based on a failed [[{{Precursors}} Daskin]] project and have a ''serious'' flaw. If given conflicting orders at the same hierarchy level, they may crash and take the whole ship down with them. This is used by Pavel Litvin when he orders the computer to keep his location hidden from the Faata. When the Faata whose job is to interface with the computer tries to order the computer to locate Litvin, the computer warns him of this possibility if the Faata insists the computer carry out the order. Yes, the computer is smart enough to figure out what could cause it to crash but can't TakeAThirdOption. No wonder the Daskins abandoned the experiment.

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* In the climax of ''PerdidoStreetStation'', ''Literature/PerdidoStreetStation'', Isaac actually succeeds in using a Logic Bomb ''as a power source'' for his crisis engine, presenting an attached {{Clockpunk}} calculating machine with two things it concludes are, simultaneously, identical and inherently unalike. This doesn't shut the clockwork computer down, but the irreconcilable dilemma provides sufficient "crisis energy" to create a feedback loop with which to [[spoiler: bait the slake-moths into gorging themselves to death]].
* In Creator/MikhailAkhmanov's ''[[ArrivalsFromTheDark ''[[Literature/ArrivalsFromTheDark Invasion]]'', the [[HumanAliens Faata]] use telepathic biological computers to control their ships. It's revealed that these computers are based on a failed [[{{Precursors}} Daskin]] project and have a ''serious'' flaw. If given conflicting orders at the same hierarchy level, they may crash and take the whole ship down with them. This is used by Pavel Litvin when he orders the computer to keep his location hidden from the Faata. When the Faata whose job is to interface with the computer tries to order the computer to locate Litvin, the computer warns him of this possibility if the Faata insists the computer carry out the order. Yes, the computer is smart enough to figure out what could cause it to crash but can't TakeAThirdOption. No wonder the Daskins abandoned the experiment.
8th Jun '16 3:41:28 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* ''TabletopGame''/MagicTheGathering'' has the famous combo of Humility and Opalescence. Opalescence turns all enchantments into creatures which retain the effect of the enchantment, and Humility is an enchantment that turns all creatures into 1/1 and removes their special abilities. But Opalescence turns Humility into a creature, and thus it must remove its own special effect, but then it doesn't need to, so it doesn't, and then it will need to again... oh dear, I've gone cross eyed.

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* ''TabletopGame''/MagicTheGathering'' ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' has the famous combo of Humility and Opalescence. Opalescence turns all enchantments into creatures which retain the effect of the enchantment, and Humility is an enchantment that turns all creatures into 1/1 and removes their special abilities. But Opalescence turns Humility into a creature, and thus it must remove its own special effect, but then it doesn't need to, so it doesn't, and then it will need to again... oh dear, I've gone cross eyed.




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8th Jun '16 3:40:26 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* ''TabletopGame''/MagicTheGathering'' has the famous combo of Humility and Opalescence. Opalescence turns all enchantments into creatures which retain the effect of the enchantment, and Humility is an enchantment that turns all creatures into 1/1 and removes their special abilities. But Opalescence turns Humility into a creature, and thus it must remove its own special effect, but then it doesn't need to, so it doesn't, and then it will need to again... oh dear, I've gone cross eyed.
** The errata for Humility and Opalescence is among the most complicated in the game.
6th Jun '16 11:41:31 AM Morgenthaler
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*** And in the ''{{Foundation}}'' prequels written by other authors after Asimov's death, it's revealed that the Zeroth-law robots had been driven by the Laws to sweep through the galaxy ahead of humanity's expansion, committing galactic-scale genocide of every potentially-threatening form of alien life as a precautionary measure, slaughtering them without hesitation since their programmed morality only applies to humans.

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*** ** And in the ''{{Foundation}}'' ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' prequels written by other authors after Asimov's death, it's revealed that the Zeroth-law robots had been driven by the Laws to sweep through the galaxy ahead of humanity's expansion, committing galactic-scale genocide of every potentially-threatening form of alien life as a precautionary measure, slaughtering them without hesitation since their programmed morality only applies to humans.
2nd Jun '16 9:07:36 PM Scrounge
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* Subverted twice in [[http://nonadventures.com/2011/02/19/the-daily-trouble/ this]] Webcomic/TheNonAdventuresOfWonderella strip. The first fails because the robot wasn't programmed to respond to it, and the second [[InsaneTrollLogic isn't even logical]. The robot ends up accidentally unplugging itself from its electrical socket.

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* Subverted twice in [[http://nonadventures.com/2011/02/19/the-daily-trouble/ this]] Webcomic/TheNonAdventuresOfWonderella strip. The first fails because the robot wasn't programmed to respond to it, and the second [[InsaneTrollLogic isn't even logical].logical]]. The robot ends up accidentally unplugging itself from its electrical socket.
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