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17th May '17 5:54:19 AM RaspberrySam
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* The ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' has droids equipped with behavioral inhibitor programming which serves the same purpose as the Three Laws, although the specific inhibitions vary based on the droid's purpose (a war droid that can't cause harm is worse than useless). Rather than shutting down when faced with a break or paradox, it's suggested that small everyday events lead to an almost constant buildup of garbage information as the droid puts those hard rules into usable context. The result is called a "personality snarl" because the observable symptom is a [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Ridiculously Human Robot]]. While these snarls tend to improve performance in many ways, the droid often becomes more person than tool which can in turn cause reliability issues when the owner needs his tool to be a tool. As such, most droids are reset every six months to keep this corruption in check.

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* The ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' has droids equipped with behavioral inhibitor programming which serves the same purpose as the Three Laws, although the specific inhibitions vary based on the droid's purpose (a war droid that can't cause harm is worse than useless). Rather than shutting down when faced with a break or paradox, it's suggested that small everyday events lead to an almost constant buildup of garbage information as the droid puts those hard rules into usable context. The result is called a "personality snarl" because the observable symptom is a [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Ridiculously Human Robot]]. While these snarls tend to improve performance in many ways, the droid often becomes more person than tool which can in turn cause reliability issues when the owner needs his tool to be a tool. As such, most droids are reset every six months to keep this corruption in check. An example of this effect in action would be R2-D2, who has managed to avoid being memory-wiped for ''decades'' and is only limited in personality by his usage of 'droid speak' rather than Basic (like C-3PO, who isn't so lucky).
13th May '17 12:17:34 PM nombretomado
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* ''LuminousArc2'': Though not a robot, Josie suffers something like this. When sent to assassinate a weakened Althea, he freaks out and leaves without doing anything when he sees [[spoiler:Roland has become as master. Sadie explains he's not [[TheDragon Fatima]]'s familiar, but a centuries-old one who serves the current Master. Being experienced but not very bright, he couldn't figure out what to do when faced with two masters with contradictory wishes.]]

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* ''LuminousArc2'': ''VideoGame/LuminousArc2'': Though not a robot, Josie suffers something like this. When sent to assassinate a weakened Althea, he freaks out and leaves without doing anything when he sees [[spoiler:Roland has become as master. Sadie explains he's not [[TheDragon Fatima]]'s familiar, but a centuries-old one who serves the current Master. Being experienced but not very bright, he couldn't figure out what to do when faced with two masters with contradictory wishes.]]
10th May '17 6:01:01 PM SpawnofKong
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*** In the Fourth Doctor audio drama "The Eternal Battle", [[spoiler: the Doctor meets a computer from a long-extinct race which hoped to demonstrate the futility of war by showcasing captured war-zones in time bubbles. With the Doctor's arrival, the computer decides that the experiment is a failure and makes ready to destroy the inhabitants of all the time bubbles. The Doctor argues that by doing so, the computer is waging war on war, and since war is futile, that means the computer itself is futile and must be stopped.]] Fortunately, the system simply deactivates itself instead of exploding.
24th Apr '17 12:13:08 PM Golondrina
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* Some forms of autism apparently result in the absence of the human brain's natural [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} paradox-absorbing crumple zones]]. The mind races down one track until jolted out by outside stimuli. This helps focus, but hurts general functioning. Many forms of ADD do this also. Of course, the 'track' the mind races down looks like it belongs in a painting by MCEscher on acid much of the time, but it's still one track.

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* Some forms of autism apparently result in the absence of the human brain's natural [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} paradox-absorbing crumple zones]]. The mind races down one track until jolted out by outside stimuli. This helps focus, but hurts general functioning. Many forms of ADD do this also. Of course, the 'track' the mind races down looks like it belongs in a painting by MCEscher Creator/MCEscher on acid much of the time, but it's still one track.
10th Apr '17 1:42:48 PM ZorotheGallade
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* Many of the artifacts in ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' can be destroyed by using them for a contradictory purpose. A few instances:
** The Crown of the Iron King gives its owner total control of the person they bestow the crown upon. If its owner wears the crown themselves, both they and the crown are instantly destroyed.
** Baba Yaga's hut will warp out of existance if it is commanded to teleport inside itself.
** The Twin Spheres (essentially two ends of a wormhole) will explode and destroy everything in a wide radius if one enters the other.
** The Aegis (A shield with a medusa's head mounted on it) is destroyed if the medusa head is resurrected and turned to mirror herself in the shield's surface.
6th Apr '17 7:28:06 PM nombretomado
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* ''PlanescapeTorment'' has a character who successfully convinces a man that he does not, in fact, exist. As a result he ceases to do so. Though to be fair the game is set in a ''D&D'' setting in which a system of [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve "Whatever you believe, is"]] has replaced all laws of nature.[[spoiler: Doing so unlock an optional method of ending the game by ''deliberately'' logic bombing yourself out of existence.]]

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* ''PlanescapeTorment'' ''VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment'' has a character who successfully convinces a man that he does not, in fact, exist. As a result he ceases to do so. Though to be fair the game is set in a ''D&D'' setting in which a system of [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve "Whatever you believe, is"]] has replaced all laws of nature.[[spoiler: Doing so unlock an optional method of ending the game by ''deliberately'' logic bombing yourself out of existence.]]
5th Apr '17 6:39:45 PM Nezumi
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* Vizzini (Wallace Shawn) blunders into one in his final scene in ''Film/ThePrincessBride'', after he has accepted Westley's challenge to find some poisonous iocane powder amongst two goblets of wine. He had claimed to be the cleverest man on Earth; unfortunately for him, he proved to be ''so'' clever that [[BlessedWithSuck he ended up overthinking Westley's game and paralyzing himself with indecision]], endlessly coming up with rationalizations for why the poison could be in ''either'' goblet. Ironically, Vizzini is right - but not in the way he would have liked. Westley had [[TakeAThirdOption poisoned ''both'' goblets]], surviving even as Vizzini quickly dies because he had spent years immunizing himself to iocane powder.

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* Vizzini (Wallace Shawn) blunders into one in his final scene in ''Film/ThePrincessBride'', after he has accepted Westley's challenge to find some poisonous iocane powder amongst two goblets of wine. He had claimed to be the cleverest man on Earth; unfortunately for him, he proved to be ''so'' clever that [[BlessedWithSuck he ended up overthinking Westley's game and paralyzing himself with indecision]], endlessly coming up with rationalizations for why the poison could be in ''either'' goblet. Ironically, Vizzini is right - but not in the way he would have liked. Westley had [[TakeAThirdOption poisoned ''both'' poisoned]] ''[[TakeAThirdOption both]]'' [[TakeAThirdOption goblets]], surviving even as Vizzini quickly dies because he had spent years immunizing himself to iocane powder.
30th Mar '17 7:50:12 AM CumbersomeTercel
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** In "The Return of the Archons", he convinced Landru (prime directive: "destroy evil") that it was killing the "body" (the civilians kept under its thrall) by halting their progress through MindControl.
** "The Changeling"

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** In "The "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E21TheReturnOfTheArchons}} The Return of the Archons", Archons]]", he convinced Landru (prime directive: "destroy evil") that it was killing the "body" (the civilians kept under its thrall) by halting their progress through MindControl.
** "The Changeling""[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E3TheChangeling}} The Changeling]]"



** In "The Ultimate Computer", he convinced M5 ("save men from the dangerous activities of space exploration") that it had violated its own prime directive by killing people.
** In "That Which Survives", he forced a hologram to back off by making her consider the logic of killing to protect a dead world, and why she must kill if she knows it's wrong.
** In "I, Mudd", he defeated the androids by confusing them with almost UsefulNotes/{{dada}}-like illogical behavior (including a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMegqgGORY "real" bomb]]), ending with the Liar's Paradox on their leader. This one was extra {{Justified|Trope}}. The androids weren't defeated by the paradox just because they were machines, but because they were specifically programmed that they '''must''' apply logic to '''everything'''. Their programming would not allow them to simply not think about it.
** Another one involving Kirk: In "Requiem for Methuselah", the android's creator used Kirk to stir up emotions in it, but he succeeded a bit too well, causing her to short out when she couldn't reconcile her conflicting feelings for both Kirk and her creator.
** "What Are Little Girls Made Of" had him arrange to have a robot duplicate of him say an OutOfCharacterAlert to Mr. Spock; he follows up by {{Breaking Speech}}ing TheDragon du jour into remembering [[KillAllHumans why he helped destroy the "Old Ones"]] so he'd turn on the episode's AntiVillain. For a finale, he [[spoiler:forces the roboticized Dr. Korby to realize that he's the TomatoInTheMirror.]] He also pulled the "seduce the RobotGirl" trick.
** Even ''Spock'' did this once. In "Wolf in the Fold", when the ''Enterprise'' computer was possessed by Redjac (a.k.a. UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper), Spock forced the entity out by giving the computer a top-priority order to devote its entire capability calculating pi to the last digit.

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** In "The "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E24TheUltimateComputer}} The Ultimate Computer", Computer]]", he convinced M5 ("save men from the dangerous activities of space exploration") that it had violated its own prime directive by killing people.
** In "That "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS3E17ThatWhichSurvives}} That Which Survives", Survives]]", he forced a hologram to back off by making her consider the logic of killing to protect a dead world, and why she must kill if she knows it's wrong.
** In "I, Mudd", "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E8IMudd}} I, Mudd]]", he defeated the androids by confusing them with almost UsefulNotes/{{dada}}-like illogical behavior (including a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMegqgGORY "real" bomb]]), ending with the Liar's Paradox on their leader. This one was extra {{Justified|Trope}}. The androids weren't defeated by the paradox just because they were machines, but because they were specifically programmed that they '''must''' apply logic to '''everything'''. Their programming would not allow them to simply not think about it.
** Another one involving Kirk: In "Requiem "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS3E19RequiemForMethuselah}} Requiem for Methuselah", Methuselah]]", the android's creator used Kirk to stir up emotions in it, but he succeeded a bit too well, causing her to short out when she couldn't reconcile her conflicting feelings for both Kirk and her creator.
** "What "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E7WhatAreLittleGirlsMadeOf}} What Are Little Girls Made Of" of?]]" had him arrange to have a robot duplicate of him say an OutOfCharacterAlert to Mr. Spock; he follows up by {{Breaking Speech}}ing TheDragon du jour into remembering [[KillAllHumans why he helped destroy the "Old Ones"]] so he'd turn on the episode's AntiVillain. For a finale, he [[spoiler:forces the roboticized Dr. Korby to realize that he's the TomatoInTheMirror.]] He also pulled the "seduce the RobotGirl" trick.
** Even ''Spock'' did this once. In "Wolf "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E14WolfInTheFold}} Wolf in the Fold", Fold]]", when the ''Enterprise'' computer was possessed by Redjac (a.k.a. UsefulNotes/JackTheRipper), Spock forced the entity out by giving the computer a top-priority order to devote its entire capability calculating pi to the last digit.
12th Mar '17 2:04:18 PM treehugger0369
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** Played with in that that wasn't actually a paradox; even if "Everything I say is a lie" is a lie, you can still lie about some things--that being one of them--without lying about everything. So Claptrap basically shut himself down by not being bright enough to see that.
11th Mar '17 6:24:11 PM Phys101
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* In naive set theory, the set of sets that contain themselves is ill-defined.[[note]]The set may contain itself or not; one can never say which.[[/note]] Likewise, the set of sets that don't contain themselves can't exist.[[note]]The set violates its definition whether it contains itself or not.[[/note]] Various axioms of set theory avoid these problems. When directory structures were created, they emulated naive set theory. In particular, Unix and DOS/Windows directories normally contain themselves (the "." subdirectory). One can imagine creating a directory without the "." subdirectory. So how do the filesystems {{avert}} the paradox?\\

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* In naive set theory, the set of sets that contain themselves is ill-defined.[[note]]The set may contain itself or not; one can never say which.[[/note]] Likewise, the set of sets that don't contain themselves can't exist.[[note]]The set violates its definition whether it contains itself or not.[[/note]] Various axioms of set theory avoid these problems. When directory structures were created, they emulated naive set theory. In particular, Unix and DOS/Windows directories normally contain themselves (the "." subdirectory). One can imagine creating a directory without the "." subdirectory. So how do the filesystems {{avert}} {{avert|edTrope}} the paradox?\\
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