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15th Aug '17 5:27:13 PM Nire
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** Both Sheik and Link (particularly Breath of the Wild's Link) have a following among trans and non-binary fans, as well. The former of course is obvious in the reasoning, but with Link it's a bit more complex. [[note]] A big chunk of it likely has to do with Aonuma's teasing earlier in development that the pretty-faced main character wasn't necessarily Link, leading to wild speculation. The statement was later retracted and the character confirmed to indeed be Link, but some fans now prefer to think of Link as a trans man or otherwise not cisgendered. Alternatively, Link's apparent comfort in wearing traditional Gerudo "vai" garb has other fans reading the character as being more feminine. [[/note]]

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** Both Sheik and Link (particularly Breath of the Wild's Link) have a following among trans and non-binary fans, as well. The former of course is obvious in the reasoning, but with Link it's a bit more complex. [[note]] A big chunk of it likely has to do with Aonuma's teasing earlier in development that the pretty-faced main character wasn't necessarily Link, leading to wild speculation.speculation, including theories that the character was actually female. The statement was later retracted and the character confirmed to indeed be Link, but some fans now prefer to think of Link as a trans man or otherwise not cisgendered. Alternatively, Link's apparent comfort in wearing traditional Gerudo "vai" garb has other fans reading the character as being more feminine. [[/note]]
15th Aug '17 5:26:12 PM Nire
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** Link's pretty boy looks make him look especially girly in some games with him being able to cross dress as a gerudo woman in breath of the wild. Cue many male fans questioning their sexuality. He's also shown to be flirted with by other men when either cross dressing or dressed normally. Players being able to play Link while he's shirtless and wearing boxers help. Not to mention his shitless scene in twilight princess.

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** Link's pretty boy looks make him look especially girly in some games with him being able to cross dress as a gerudo woman in breath Breath of the wild.Wild. Cue many male fans questioning their sexuality. He's also shown to be flirted with by other men when either cross dressing or dressed normally. Players being able to play Link while he's shirtless and wearing boxers help. Not to mention his shitless scene in twilight princess.princess.
** Both Sheik and Link (particularly Breath of the Wild's Link) have a following among trans and non-binary fans, as well. The former of course is obvious in the reasoning, but with Link it's a bit more complex. [[note]] A big chunk of it likely has to do with Aonuma's teasing earlier in development that the pretty-faced main character wasn't necessarily Link, leading to wild speculation. The statement was later retracted and the character confirmed to indeed be Link, but some fans now prefer to think of Link as a trans man or otherwise not cisgendered. Alternatively, Link's apparent comfort in wearing traditional Gerudo "vai" garb has other fans reading the character as being more feminine. [[/note]]
15th Aug '17 10:17:05 AM WaterBlap
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* Most of Myth/{{Classical mythology}} -- especially Hellenic mythology -- falls under this.
** Sexual relations between men [[note]]Although this would today percieved as gay the cultural backround of the greek ancient world has quite less in common with the present concept of homosexuality. While today being gay (or queer in any way) is associated with an identity and homosexual (or any non heterosexual) relationships as a (western, contemporary) concept/ ideal turn on romantic relationships between equal partners. However, in ancient greece it was more about pederasty (which is different from paedophilia though): A boy/ young man, usually pubescent (usually before the beard grows, but ''not'' a child), the ''beloved'', is educated and teached by an (older) adult man, the ''lover''. Sexual relations between them were seen as a normal part of the student-teacher relationship (although there were different levels of acceptance of this depending on the city state or specific time). It was not intended to be permanent (in fact it should end until the younger one grew up), romantic or monogamous (men could be in different relations like this, also with different roles) and the partners ''mustn't'' be equal (huge(r) age different, teacher-student) It was just normal, even expected for men in this relationships to be married to a woman without blaming for infidelity. This also applied to men specifically; since the ancient greek society was very patriarchic, focusing on elites (maybe more than today) there are no sources about sexual relations between women.[[/note]] or similar were widely accepted and practiced in Ancient Greece, and tolerated in Rome. As a result, vast swathes of Ancient Greek mythological figures have serious HoYay going on, and on top of that, many have explicit romantic relationships with the same-sex. Furthermore, most of the Gods were {{bi|TheWay}}sexual. Things were toned down in Roman times (the original Narcissus myth had him spurning a male suitor) but a lot still lingered on. Greek mythology has subsequently inspired a lot of homoerotic art, such as this [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/The_Death_of_Hyacinthos.gif painting]] of Apollo cradling Hyacinth.
** [[MakingASplash Poseidon]] and [[{{Bishonen}} Nerites]]. They ''mutually fell in love'' (that's ''huge'' by Greek Mythology standards) and even [[HomosexualReproduction had a son together]] (a son who went on to become the God of Reciprocated Love). Unfortunately, things didn't end well for them, after [[PowerOfTheSun Helios]] (or [[LoveGoddess Aphrodite]] in some versions) turned Nerites into a shellfish because he was jealous.



* ''Literature/TheBible'':
** The story of [[HerHeartWillGoOn David and Jonathan]]. Though David had no fewer than ''eight'' wives, he was said to have loved [[ClosetKey Jonathan]] with a passion above all other people. The HoYay of this relationship has been [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_and_David#Homoeroticism acknowledged and celebrated in art]] at least since the Renaissance.
** [[LovelyAngels Ruth and Naomi]] have some significance in the lesbian community as well.



* Nearly any {{mytholog|y}}ical hero or WorthyOpponent in a world of [[AmbiguouslyGay ambiguous]] or [[HoYay blatantly homoerotic]] sexuality. Heracles, the Minotaur, [[YaoiGuys Zephyrus and Hyacinth]], [[Myth/CelticMythology Cú Chulainn]], Literature/{{Beowulf}}...


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* Most of Myth/{{Classical mythology}} -- especially Hellenic mythology -- falls under this.
** Sexual relations between men [[note]]Although this would today percieved as gay the cultural backround of the greek ancient world has quite less in common with the present concept of homosexuality. While today being gay (or queer in any way) is associated with an identity and homosexual (or any non heterosexual) relationships as a (western, contemporary) concept/ ideal turn on romantic relationships between equal partners. However, in ancient greece it was more about pederasty (which is different from paedophilia though): A boy/ young man, usually pubescent (usually before the beard grows, but ''not'' a child), the ''beloved'', is educated and teached by an (older) adult man, the ''lover''. Sexual relations between them were seen as a normal part of the student-teacher relationship (although there were different levels of acceptance of this depending on the city state or specific time). It was not intended to be permanent (in fact it should end until the younger one grew up), romantic or monogamous (men could be in different relations like this, also with different roles) and the partners ''mustn't'' be equal (huge(r) age different, teacher-student) It was just normal, even expected for men in this relationships to be married to a woman without blaming for infidelity. This also applied to men specifically; since the ancient greek society was very patriarchic, focusing on elites (maybe more than today) there are no sources about sexual relations between women.[[/note]] or similar were widely accepted and practiced in Ancient Greece, and tolerated in Rome. As a result, vast swathes of Ancient Greek mythological figures have serious HoYay going on, and on top of that, many have explicit romantic relationships with the same-sex. Furthermore, most of the Gods were {{bi|TheWay}}sexual. Things were toned down in Roman times (the original Narcissus myth had him spurning a male suitor) but a lot still lingered on. Greek mythology has subsequently inspired a lot of homoerotic art, such as this [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/The_Death_of_Hyacinthos.gif painting]] of Apollo cradling Hyacinth.
** [[MakingASplash Poseidon]] and [[{{Bishonen}} Nerites]]. They ''mutually fell in love'' (that's ''huge'' by Greek Mythology standards) and even [[HomosexualReproduction had a son together]] (a son who went on to become the God of Reciprocated Love). Unfortunately, things didn't end well for them, after [[PowerOfTheSun Helios]] (or [[LoveGoddess Aphrodite]] in some versions) turned Nerites into a shellfish because he was jealous.
* ''Literature/TheBible'':
** The story of [[HerHeartWillGoOn David and Jonathan]]. Though David had no fewer than ''eight'' wives, he was said to have loved [[ClosetKey Jonathan]] with a passion above all other people. The HoYay of this relationship has been [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_and_David#Homoeroticism acknowledged and celebrated in art]] at least since the Renaissance.
** [[LovelyAngels Ruth and Naomi]] have some significance in the lesbian community as well.
* Nearly any {{mytholog|y}}ical hero or WorthyOpponent in a world of [[AmbiguouslyGay ambiguous]] or [[HoYay blatantly homoerotic]] sexuality. Heracles, the Minotaur, [[YaoiGuys Zephyrus and Hyacinth]], [[Myth/CelticMythology Cú Chulainn]], Literature/{{Beowulf}}...
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9th Aug '17 11:29:33 AM narm00
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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': As of 2012, the Doctor is snogging guys just for fun (an element that got introduced in the novels in the late 90's).

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': As of 2012, the Doctor is ''Series/DoctorWho'':
** The [[Creator/MattSmith Eleventh Doctor]] was
snogging guys just for fun by 2012 (an element that got introduced in the novels in the late 90's).90s).
** The revival series saw the Doctor begin taking openly queer companions like Captain Jack Harkness and Bill Potts (something again pioneered by the Expanded Universe in the 90s).
** Creator/StevenMoffat's era introduced the idea of Time Lords being a race of {{Sex Shifter}}s, potentially changing gender upon regeneration, with the first on-screen demonstration being Missy in 2014, followed by the Doctor themselves in 2017.



** In the Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures novels, ''WebAnimation/ScreamOfTheShalka'', it's ''entirely'' deliberate.

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** In the Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures novels, novels and ''WebAnimation/ScreamOfTheShalka'', it's ''entirely'' deliberate.
8th Aug '17 11:30:23 PM Kotomikun
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* ''Anime/LittleWitchAcademia'' gained a lot of lesbian/bi fans, mainly after the TV series brought a significant amount of ShipTease between female characters. The [[LovePotion Love-Love Bee]] episode took some flak for perceived [[BaitAndSwitchLesbians queerbaiting]]. WordOfGod that [[FoeYay Akko/Diana]] would never be canon also prompted some backlash, but it certainly didn't stop the avalanche of fanart.
21st Jul '17 5:01:54 PM Ryulong
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* Japanese pop rock star Nanase Aikawa has a massive lesbian following that she fully embraces. She once performed at a lesbians only night at a popular club in Tokyo's gay district Shinjuku Nichome to double the club's capacity. In 2010, she began a side band Rockstar Steady in which she took on a butch lesbian persona and wrote songs wholly about being in love with other women.
21st Jul '17 4:55:35 AM rjd1922
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* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' has managed to develop a strong following among LGBT fans, thanks to a cast of attractive characters prone to HoYay or LesYay, and several canon LGBT characters. The series includes the bisexual (or possibly pansexual) Tsukiyama, AmbiuouslyGay Naki who is described as having his male subordinates love, Uta who comments on liking girls and then notices Mutsuki's and Urie's good looks, homosexual Drag Queen Nico and his ambiguous yet suggestive relationship with Yamori and his flirting with various male characters, DepravedBisexual Nutcracker, and leaves a rather ambiguous situation concerning [[RaisedAsTheOppositeGender Juuzou]]'s gender identity. Further more, Abara is hinted to have feelings for him and to further the ambiguous nature of Juuzuo's gender identity, Abara pictures Suzuya wearing a wedding dress in an omake. Also, the sequel has earned considerable praise for revealing Tooru Mutsuki to be a transgender man, portraying him in a respectful and accurate fashion. His [[spoiler: feelings of love towards Sasaki as revealed in chapter 114]] and ShipTease with other male characters help at least for the fans who like him. Big Madam is also hinted in the sequel as being a trans woman as she is referred to with male pronouns at her death. And then there's Matsuri who is revealed to be gay and in love with Urie who is implied to have feelings for Mutsuki. There's also Hsiao's implied crush on Saiko and Saiko's statement of how she is everyone's bride and her commenting on Hsiao's sexiness which implies her as identifying as bisexual. And although Furuta is straight and in love with Rize he is also quite campy and fabulous.

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* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' has managed to develop a strong following among LGBT fans, thanks to a cast of attractive characters prone to HoYay or LesYay, and several canon LGBT characters. The series includes the bisexual (or possibly pansexual) Tsukiyama, AmbiuouslyGay AmbiguouslyGay Naki who is described as having his male subordinates love, Uta who comments on liking girls and then notices Mutsuki's and Urie's good looks, homosexual Drag Queen Nico and his ambiguous yet suggestive relationship with Yamori and his flirting with various male characters, DepravedBisexual Nutcracker, and leaves a rather ambiguous situation concerning [[RaisedAsTheOppositeGender Juuzou]]'s gender identity. Further more, Abara is hinted to have feelings for him and to further the ambiguous nature of Juuzuo's gender identity, Abara pictures Suzuya wearing a wedding dress in an omake. Also, the sequel has earned considerable praise for revealing Tooru Mutsuki to be a transgender man, portraying him in a respectful and accurate fashion. His [[spoiler: feelings of love towards Sasaki as revealed in chapter 114]] and ShipTease with other male characters help at least for the fans who like him. Big Madam is also hinted in the sequel as being a trans woman as she is referred to with male pronouns at her death. And then there's Matsuri who is revealed to be gay and in love with Urie who is implied to have feelings for Mutsuki. There's also Hsiao's implied crush on Saiko and Saiko's statement of how she is everyone's bride and her commenting on Hsiao's sexiness which implies her as identifying as bisexual. And although Furuta is straight and in love with Rize he is also quite campy and fabulous.
14th Jul '17 12:42:34 PM Andyxdr
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** The series has this, with its central relationship being that of Arthur and Merlin (both played by young men in this version), and the fact that the actors ColinMorgan and Creator/BradleyJames are HeterosexualLifePartners. However, there has been some CreatorBacklash to this, with one of the head writers claiming that: "we don't pander to that lot."

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** The series has this, with its central relationship being that of Arthur and Merlin (both played by young men in this version), and the fact that the actors ColinMorgan Creator/ColinMorgan and Creator/BradleyJames are HeterosexualLifePartners. However, there has been some CreatorBacklash to this, with one of the head writers claiming that: "we don't pander to that lot."
9th Jul '17 3:42:01 PM rjd1922
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}'' has a large gay male fanbase. So much so that Out Magazine did an [[http://www.out.com/detail.asp?page=1&id=26105 interview with Jem's voice actress]] about it. It's also popular with gay/bi women due the noticeable about of LesYay. There even goes a story that Jem's singing voice was allowed into a gay club once (some fans from a convention took her), when she didn't have her [=ID=], just because someone said she was Jem's singing voice. Some fans also believe that Stormer is a lesbian, and Kimber is bi.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}'' has a large gay male fanbase. So much so that Out Magazine did an [[http://www.out.com/detail.asp?page=1&id=26105 interview with Jem's voice actress]] about it. It's also popular with gay/bi women due the noticeable about of LesYay. There even goes a story that Jem's singing voice was allowed into a gay club once (some fans from a convention took her), when she didn't have her [=ID=], just because someone said she was Jem's singing voice. Some fans also believe that Stormer is a lesbian, and Kimber is bi. In [[ComicBook/JemAndTheHolograms the comic]], [[AdaptationalSexuality they're both lesbians]].
6th Jul '17 5:27:54 AM eowynjedi
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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'': Faris, a pirate captain who was lost at sea as a little girl and raised as a man ever since, who occasionally flip-flops between using male or female adjectives for herself, has a lot of trans / non-binary / genderfluid fans.
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