History Main / KingmakerScenario

11th Oct '17 4:55:21 PM DragonRanger
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** This also frequently showed up as a result of the last Immunity Challenge when the show used a Final Two, as the challenge winner was free to choose exactly who they faced in the finals. The winner of the challenge would either be a dominant force that would take out their opponent, or they would be the Kingmaker, and hand the million dollars to another player. The show has since made Final Three the standard specifically to avoid this situation. Of course, now you just have strong players trying to (and succeeding in) bringing ''two'' unpopular contestants to the jury vote.

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** This also frequently showed up as a result of the last Immunity Challenge when the show used a Final Two, as Two: with three players in the last vote before the finals, two would be forced to vote against one another (as they couldn't vote for themselves or the challenge winner) and cancel each other out; leaving the challenge winner was free to choose exactly who they faced in the finals. The winner of the challenge would either be choose a dominant force weaker opponent that would take out their opponent, they could crush, or they would be ''be'' the Kingmaker, weaker opponent no matter who they chose and hand the million dollars become a Kingmaker deciding which player gets to another player. beat them. The show has since made Final Three the standard specifically to avoid this situation. Of course, now you just have strong situation, as having four players trying to (and succeeding in) bringing ''two'' unpopular contestants to in the jury vote.penultimate vote means everyone's vote matters.
30th Aug '17 8:15:55 AM dsollen
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** In a more official capacity, sometimes a player who's ahead will be shut out of trades because the other players don't like said player; instead, they choose to deal with a second player who has a chance of winning. At least one Monopoly ''championship'' was decided in exactly this manner.



** In a more official capacity, sometimes a player who's ahead will be shut out of trades because the other players don't like said player; instead, they choose to deal with a second player who has a chance of winning. At least one Monopoly ''championship'' was decided in exactly this manner.
30th Aug '17 8:15:03 AM dsollen
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* The ShadowHunters board game has this as a basic mechanic. Players are devided between hunters, shadows, and neutrals, with specific roles being hidden at first. Hunters and Shadows win by finding and defeating the all members of the other side, but neutrals are not allied with either and each has their own objectives. Many of the neutrals have objectives that encourage them to play kingmaker. Examples include a neutral who wins if a player to one side of them wins, or ones that win just by surviving till the end of the game. There's nothing like seeing the 8 year old girl who's objective was survival, who spent the entire game collecting protective/healing cards and begging others to not harm her, suddently turn on the last hunter and brutally murder him just to end the game and ensure they win.
16th Jul '17 7:23:51 PM kome360
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* ''VideoGame/Fallout4'': There are four factions with different policies for Synthetic Humans: Kill Them (Brotherhood of Steel), Free Them (Underground Railroad), Enslave Them (The Institute), and Who The Fuck Cares (Minutemen). Each has their own unique strengths and weaknesses, and those with more power are also more entangled / retarded, so the conflict has come to an even standstill. You can side with any of the first three and kill the other two, use the fourth to destroy the third yourself, or broker an alliance between the Brotherhood and Railroad with the Minutemen as ambassadors and murder the fuck out of The Institute.
16th Jul '17 6:53:27 PM kome360
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* ''VideoGame/Killer7'': The Smiths are hired to take out Matsuken, the leader of a significant 10 million US voters, before he can rig the elections. 10 million is technically less than 1% of the vote - BUT since the state elections are near-tied, if Matsuken herded them all into a single small state and had them vote he could win the election for whichever kiss-ass the Japanese favor. [[spoiler:And then you find out this was all a big distraction so nobody would realize the Ministry of Education has been swapping out ballot machines]].
12th Jul '17 10:07:03 PM NightShade96
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* Subverted by Yrael from the ''OldKingdom'' series in the backstory. [[BigBad The Destroyer]] and the Seven Bright Shiners were evenly matched in their war over whether the world would exist and have life; Yrael was weaker than both sides on his own, but was enough that whichever side he choose would win. However, he refused to join either side, earning NeutralityBacklash from both; when the Seven eventually won and [[SealedEvilInACan sealed the Destroyer in a can]], they made Yrael SealedEvilInATeddyBear, and forced him to serve the [[BadPowersGoodPeople Abhorsens]].

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* Subverted by Yrael from the ''OldKingdom'' ''Literature/OldKingdom'' series in the backstory. [[BigBad The Destroyer]] and the Seven Bright Shiners were evenly matched in their war over whether the world would exist and have life; Yrael was weaker than both sides on his own, but was enough that whichever side he choose would win. However, he refused to join either side, earning NeutralityBacklash from both; when the Seven eventually won and [[SealedEvilInACan sealed the Destroyer in a can]], they made Yrael SealedEvilInATeddyBear, and forced him to serve the [[BadPowersGoodPeople Abhorsens]].
12th Jun '17 9:34:38 AM AgentKyles
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'''Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease''' They tend to degenerate into a political Administrivia/ConversationInTheMainPage. [[noreallife]]

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'''Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease''' They Compare and contrast OfferedTheCrown and UnexpectedSuccessor, when one or all of the involved sides decide to [[TakeAThirdOption install an outsider candidate to settle on]].

Since real-life exmaples
tend to degenerate into a political Administrivia/ConversationInTheMainPage.Administrivia/ConversationInTheMainPage, '''[[Administrivia/NoRealLifeExamplesPlease they have been deemed unnecessary]]'''. [[noreallife]]
1st Jun '17 8:07:43 PM nombretomado
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* WhiteWolf's ''Prince of the City'', based on their ''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem'' RPG was probably designed for this. The winner is the player who has the most Prestige and is not in Torpor at the end of the final round. This means that one player can have an insurmountable lead over the others in terms of Prestige, only to have every other player beat him into Torpor and hand victory over to number two. "Everybody loves him! He must DIE!"

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* WhiteWolf's Creator/WhiteWolf's ''Prince of the City'', based on their ''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem'' RPG was probably designed for this. The winner is the player who has the most Prestige and is not in Torpor at the end of the final round. This means that one player can have an insurmountable lead over the others in terms of Prestige, only to have every other player beat him into Torpor and hand victory over to number two. "Everybody loves him! He must DIE!"
13th Apr '17 8:34:32 AM MarsJenkar
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* Captain Jack Sparrow is in this position in ''Film/PiratesOfTheCarribeanAtWorldsEnd''. Every other pirate has voted for themselves for Pirate King, and if he does the same, the result will be a deadlock and no one will be Pirate King. [[EnlightenedSelfInterest This is against his interests, so he gives one of the other candidates the vote needed to make them Pirate King]].

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* Captain Jack Sparrow is in this position in ''Film/PiratesOfTheCarribeanAtWorldsEnd''.''Film/PiratesOfTheCaribbeanAtWorldsEnd''. Every other pirate has voted for themselves for Pirate King, and if he does the same, the result will be a deadlock and no one will be Pirate King. [[EnlightenedSelfInterest This is against his interests, so he gives one of the other candidates the vote needed to make them Pirate King]].
13th Apr '17 8:33:47 AM MarsJenkar
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* Captain Jack Sparrow is in this position in ''Film/PiratesOfTheCarribeanAtWorldsEnd''. Every other pirate has voted for themselves for Pirate King, and if he does the same, the result will be a deadlock and no one will be Pirate King. [[EnlightenedSelfInterest This is against his interests, so he gives one of the other candidates the vote needed to make them Pirate King]].
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