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24th Mar '17 4:52:36 AM Shadowgazer
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'''Important note:''' this trope is not to be confused with its close cousin PayEvilUntoEvil, in which an asshole also suffers from another's cruelty as payback for their cruelty. The difference lies in how much the perpetrator knew about the victim, and whether that was his motive for committing the act. Someone who does PayEvilUntoEvil will deliberately target a terrible person. An SOB Kicker either doesn't know about his victim's evil, or simply doesn't care. Basically he ends up doing the right thing for all the wrong reasons.

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'''Important note:''' this trope is not to be confused with its close cousin PayEvilUntoEvil, in which an asshole also suffers from another's cruelty as payback for their cruelty. The difference lies in how much the perpetrator knew about the victim, and whether that was his motive for committing the act. Someone who does PayEvilUntoEvil will deliberately target a terrible person. An SOB Kicker either doesn't know about his victim's evil, or simply doesn't care. Basically he ends up doing the right thing for all the wrong reasons.
reasons. In a few cases it is simply a matter of perspective and what looks like a mere KickTheDog may end up becoming this, once the viewer learns more about the supposedly innocent victim.
16th Mar '17 1:05:10 PM morenohijazo
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** The three Caliph's brothers that Iznogoud made disappear. While Troiround wasn't really developed enough to say if he was evil or not, Dheround was truly a bully that kept making deadly pranks to Iznogoud and mocking him for his small size and big nose. Katround was even worse, being a crazy man obsessed with making people disappear and attempting to literally erase Bagdad (including his well-intentioned older brother).
** A more obvious example in ''Who Killed the Caliph'', where he has the Executioner (a greedy, sadistic man asking his childhood friend Wa'at Alaaf a bribe for his mercy) [[LaserGuidedKarma tortured by his own previous victim]].

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** The three Caliph's brothers that Iznogoud made disappear. While Troiround wasn't really developed enough to say if he was evil or not, Dheround was truly a bully that kept making deadly pranks to Iznogoud and mocking him for his small size and big nose. Katround was even worse, being a crazy man obsessed with making people disappear and attempting to literally erase Bagdad Baghdad (including his well-intentioned older brother).
** A more obvious example in ''Who Killed the Caliph'', where he has the Executioner (a greedy, sadistic man asking his childhood friend Wa'at Alaaf Alahf a bribe for his mercy) [[LaserGuidedKarma tortured by his own previous victim]].
16th Mar '17 12:26:51 PM flodoris
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** [[spoiler:Also Madara himself ends up becoming victim to this when Black Zetsu literally backstabs him, and converted him into Kaguya Ootsutsuki. You know Black Zetsu doesn't have any kindness in his heart, but knowing all the terrible things that Madara did, you would hardly call this action as an unforgivable sin.]]



** Also, Madara is completely evil... but Tobirama kind of had it coming when Mads impaled him with the rods.
14th Mar '17 8:15:24 PM Discar
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* ''Literature/WordsOfRadiance'' (book two of ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive''): Adolin [[spoiler:knifes Sadeas in the dark]]. It's the sort of tactic that his father Dalinar would frown on, but the victim had it coming and then some.
12th Mar '17 10:19:09 AM Psyga315
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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': As of the opening of Volume 4, Cinder Fall is left badly injured [[spoiler: after Ruby used her [[MagicEye silver eyes]] on her in the Volume 3 finale; not only did she [[EyeScream lose an eye]], but she can [[MuteButNotSilent barely speak]] and is a target of open ridicule for [[GreaterScopeVillain Salem's]] other subordinates.]] While it's quite pitiful, [[spoiler: it's hard to pity her, considering the fact that Cinder had, among other things, orchestrated the death of Penny and the destruction of Beacon Academy, caused the Grimm infestation of Vale, and personally murdered Pyrrha in cold blood right in front of Ruby.]]

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As of the opening of Volume 4, Cinder Fall is left badly injured [[spoiler: after Ruby used her [[MagicEye silver eyes]] on her in the Volume 3 finale; not only did she [[EyeScream lose an eye]], but she can [[MuteButNotSilent barely speak]] and is a target of open ridicule for [[GreaterScopeVillain Salem's]] other subordinates.]] While it's quite pitiful, [[spoiler: it's hard to pity her, considering the fact that Cinder had, among other things, orchestrated the death of Penny and the destruction of Beacon Academy, caused the Grimm infestation of Vale, and personally murdered Pyrrha in cold blood right in front of Ruby.]]
** By the end of Volume 4, we see that [[spoiler:Ironwood has gone off the deep end in his sanity and decides to lock up Atlas during high tensions. This would be concerning had it not been for the fact that he reveals this plan to Jacques Schnee who, last we saw of him, essentially locked his own daughter up in his house (shortly after beating her). Add to the fact that Ironwood explicitly states that Jacques will have to get on his good side ''and'' that the people of Atlas effectively locked themselves up in a social bubble, and you have yourself doubting if what Ironwood is doing is even a bad move to begin with.
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8th Mar '17 6:55:20 PM Valiona
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* ''Film/{{Elysium}}'': [[spoiler:Kruger fatally stabbing Delacourt]].

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* ''Film/{{Elysium}}'': [[spoiler:Kruger fatally stabbing Delacourt]].stabs Delacourt, the woman who hired him and used him as a pawn in her evil schemes, when she makes the fatal mistake of yelling at him]].



** After kicking the dog throughout the previous season, Theon's torture begins this way, but as it grows more excruciating and pointlessly cruel it becomes harder to feel this way. In fact, by the end of the season, this trope does apply to the men who sold him out to be tortured.
** Its a hard sell to make the murder of a daughter-raping, child-sacrificing jerkass come across as an unforgivable sin to a contemporary audience.

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** After kicking the dog throughout the previous season, Theon's torture begins this way, but as it grows more excruciating and pointlessly cruel it becomes harder to feel this way. In fact, by the end of the season, this trope does apply to the men who sold him out to be tortured.
tortured, as [[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves the Ironborn who betrayed him end up getting flayed alive by Ramsay]].
** Its a hard sell to make the murder of a daughter-raping, child-sacrificing jerkass like Craster come across as an unforgivable sin to a contemporary audience.



** Ramsay [[spoiler:fatally stabbing his father]] is a terrible act, one that's intended to advance himself while also [[spoiler:eliminating the chance of him being replaced by his half-brother]], but considering that the victim was a terrible person in his own right, it's hard to feel sorry for him.



*** Bozzok decides to make use of Crystal's corpse and get revenge on Haley for skipping out on resurrection payments by hiring Grubwiggler (with a resurrection payment and then some) to stich Crystal into a Flesh Golem, a purple monstrosity that is in constant pain and constantly fixated on causing death to her enemies, then points her at Haley. Haley convinces Crystal that she may be a murderer but Bozzok is a sick son of a bitch who turned his loyal minion into an eternally suffering slave-tool. Cue curb-stomp battle. Then Crystal starts yapping about how she plans on using her new golem powers to keep killing random bystanders for fun. Cue betrayal by lava pit. Haley and the gang show no guilt over breakfast.

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*** Bozzok decides to make use of Crystal's corpse and get revenge on Haley for skipping out on resurrection payments by hiring Grubwiggler (with a resurrection payment and then some) to stich Crystal into a Flesh Golem, a purple monstrosity that is in constant pain and constantly fixated on causing death to her enemies, then points her at Haley. Haley convinces Crystal that she may be a murderer but Bozzok is a sick son of a bitch who turned his loyal minion into an eternally suffering slave-tool. Cue curb-stomp battle. Then Crystal starts yapping about how she plans on using her new golem powers to keep killing random bystanders for fun. Cue betrayal by lava pit. Haley and the gang show no guilt over breakfast.doesn't feel any hesitation or guilt, but doesn't enjoy it, either.



** Nale [[spoiler:toastinating Malack]] counts as this. Sure, he did it so that he could save his own skin rather than anyone else, but since [[spoiler:Malack]] was plotting mass murder and killed the dwarf who he once considered as a friend, he definitely had it coming.

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** Nale [[spoiler:toastinating Malack]] counts as this. Sure, he did it so that he could save his own skin rather than anyone else, but since [[spoiler:Malack]] was plotting mass murder and killed and vampirized the dwarf who he once considered as a friend, he definitely had it coming.
21st Feb '17 2:41:14 PM Typos
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* One notable example in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' is when [[spoiler: Madara stabs Sasuke on the battlefield]]. Considering that [[spoiler: Sasuke]] has betrayed nearly every one of his allies and teammates, [[spoiler: and goes on to try to betray them again]], it's hard to feel too sorry for him.
** Sasuke delivers one of these to Orochimaru when the latter attempts to steal his body. Arguably, what he did to Danzo, Deidara, and Karin might count as well, considering the various levels of evil of each of those characters. Karin is more sympathetic, until you remember that she was helping Orochimaru with his experiments and personally making sure that none of his unwilling test subjects could escape.
** Also, Madara is completely evil... but Tobirama kind of had it coming when Mads impaled him with the rods.
20th Feb '17 11:49:43 AM Selina57
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** This might be a case of PayEvilUntoEvil since the Joker [[spoiler: had subjected Jason Todd to ColdBlooded Torture before setting the bomb that exploded and temporarily killed Jason, who later became the Red Hood.]]

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** This might be a case of PayEvilUntoEvil since the Joker [[spoiler: [[spoiler: had subjected Jason Todd to ColdBlooded Torture ColdBloodedTorture before setting the bomb that exploded and temporarily killed Jason, who later became the Red Hood.]]
20th Feb '17 11:49:23 AM Selina57
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** This might be a case of PayEvilUntoEvil since the Joker [[spoiler: had subjected Jason Todd to ColdBlooded Torture before setting the bomb that exploded and temporarily killed Jason, who later became the Red Hood.]]
8th Feb '17 2:52:36 PM gb00393
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* Expanding on the ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' examples from above, ''Series/GameOfThrones'' adds some more as [[OvertookTheManga the series goes into]] [[ScheduleSlip still unpublished books]]. [[spoiler:Ramsay Bolton is viciously beaten by Jon Snow - with Sansa having to remind him to not go too far, for both [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Jon's sake]] and to provide a KarmicDeath - and Walder Frey has his sons killed and baked into a pie he unknowingly eats before getting his throat slit.]]

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* Expanding on the ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' examples from above, ''Series/GameOfThrones'' ''Series/GameOfThrones'':
** The show
adds some more examples which aren't in the books as [[OvertookTheManga the series goes into]] [[ScheduleSlip still unpublished books]]. [[spoiler:Ramsay Bolton is viciously beaten by Jon Snow - with Sansa having to remind him to not go too far, for both [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Jon's sake]] and to provide a KarmicDeath - and Walder Frey has his sons killed and baked into a pie he unknowingly eats before getting his throat slit.]] ]]
** Arya clearly becomes a darker character every time she kills, but it's compensated for by the fact that most of them deserve it.
** After kicking the dog throughout the previous season, Theon's torture begins this way, but as it grows more excruciating and pointlessly cruel it becomes harder to feel this way. In fact, by the end of the season, this trope does apply to the men who sold him out to be tortured.
** Its a hard sell to make the murder of a daughter-raping, child-sacrificing jerkass come across as an unforgivable sin to a contemporary audience.
** When Joffrey Baratheon and Tywin Lannister are murdered in cold blood, their killers clearly cross a moral line, but their victims are such jerkasses that it's hard not to cheer them on.
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