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19th Jul '17 12:46:54 PM gb00393
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** Tywin chooses to give a lecture to Tommen (a full on PetTheDog moment by itself) right next to Joffrey's body (albeit a dead body that ordered Ned Stark's death and started an expensive, bloody war) as Cersei is grieving for her son. He even mentions what a terrible king Joffrey was and coldly ignores Cersei's "this is not the time or place" feeble complaint. Although its insensitive it doesn't change the fact Joffrey still was a terrible king and Cersei ''did'' do a poor job at raising him.
9th Jul '17 6:19:02 PM RacattackForce
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Weirdmageddon", when Bill Cipher manages to take over Gravity Falls, [[RichBastard Preston Northwest]] (who's been established to be a nasty piece of work in previous episodes) tries to [[LesCollaborateurs sell himself out to Bill]]. [[EvilerThanThou Bill]] responds to his offer by ''[[BodyHorror shuffling around Preston's facial orifices]]'', causing him to collapse to the ground making muffled screams of agony.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' episode "Weirdmageddon", when Bill Cipher manages to take over Gravity Falls, [[RichBastard Preston Northwest]] (who's been established to be a nasty piece of work in previous episodes) tries to [[LesCollaborateurs sell himself out to Bill]]. [[EvilerThanThou Bill]] responds to his offer by ''[[BodyHorror shuffling around Preston's facial orifices]]'', causing him to collapse to the ground making muffled screams of agony. You'd feel bad for him, but considering that this character trained his daughter to obey him using Pavlov's classical conditioning (ringing a bell and all), it's a little cathartic.
7th Jul '17 1:13:31 PM ZimFan89
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* In the fourth episode of ''WesternAnimation/{{Castlevania}}'', a group of demons break into [[SinisterMinister the Bishop's]] church and kill him. But not before they make it clear that, [[NeverMyFault despite his protests]], Dracula's rampage is a result of the Bishop's murder of his wife, and that God won't save him, because He is disgusted by the Bishop's [[TheFundamentalist actions]].
4th Jul '17 2:52:43 PM HasturHasturHastur
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* ''Manga/OnePiece'': As if he really needed it to secure his villain cred, [[AxCrazy Donquixote]] [[PsychoForHire Doflamingo]] is especially willing to... [[YouHaveFailedMe cut loose]] his former allies. However, so far he has done this to: a {{Jerkass}} bully, a slave trader, and [[spoiler:Gecko Moria]]. None of whom were the least bit sympathetic and pretty much deserved what they got.

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'': As if he really needed it to secure his villain cred, [[AxCrazy Donquixote]] [[PsychoForHire Doflamingo]] is especially willing to... [[YouHaveFailedMe cut loose]] his former allies. However, so far he has done this to: a {{Jerkass}} bully, a slave trader, and [[spoiler:Gecko Moria]]. None of whom were the least bit sympathetic and pretty much deserved what they got. Same goes for [[spoiler:Barrels]], who had become a truly vile pirate who was just as horrible to his own son as he was to his victims, and [[spoiler:X Drake]] tellingly bore absolutely no grudge against Doflamingo for killing his father.
3rd Jul '17 1:30:55 PM xcountryguy
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There's nothing quite so evil as when a character takes a clear step toward villainy and decides to KickTheDog. Sometimes, though, the kick falls flat--not because it wasn't evil, mind you. The intent, malice and ill will are all there. It's just that at this moment, the dog isn't a sweetr innocent puppy. It happens to be a devious son of a bitch that's trying to sink its teeth into someone's leg. This is one effective way to set up a believable StartOfDarkness while keeping the character more sympathetic than he would appear if his victim was an innocent, despite the fact that it was mere coincidence that he wasn't.

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There's nothing quite so evil as when a character takes a clear step toward villainy and decides to KickTheDog. Sometimes, though, the kick falls flat--not because it wasn't evil, mind you. The intent, malice and ill will are all there. It's just that at this moment, the dog isn't a sweetr sweet, innocent puppy. It happens to be a devious son of a bitch that's trying to sink its teeth into someone's leg. This is one effective way to set up a believable StartOfDarkness while keeping the character more sympathetic than he would appear if his victim was an innocent, despite the fact that it was mere coincidence that he wasn't.



* Ribbons Almarck from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'' does this in Episode 13 of Season 2 [[spoiler:when he slaps Wang Liu Mei and tells her to know her place when she mocks him after witnessing the full extent of the Gundam 00's power]]. Ribbons is the BigBad, to be sure; but, because [[spoiler: Liu Mei]] is widely perceived as a SmugSnake and a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], this became an awesome moment for him.

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* Ribbons Almarck from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam00'' does this in Episode 13 of Season 2 [[spoiler:when he slaps Wang Liu Mei and tells her to know her place when she mocks him after witnessing the full extent of the Gundam 00's power]]. Ribbons is the BigBad, to be sure; but, because [[spoiler: Liu [[spoiler:Liu Mei]] is widely perceived as a SmugSnake and a [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], this became an awesome moment for him.



* In ''Anime/MaiHime'', this is pretty much [[spoiler: what Shizuru does]], and one reason [[spoiler: she]] lends [[spoiler: her]]self well to being a DracoInLeatherPants. [[spoiler: The First District]] arguably needed killing considering what they'd done to [[spoiler: Natsuki's mother]], and while [[spoiler: Nao]] is more sympathetic than them [[spoiler: she]] could be seen as a second case, depending on the viewer's perspective.

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* In ''Anime/MaiHime'', this is pretty much [[spoiler: what [[spoiler:what Shizuru does]], and one reason [[spoiler: she]] [[spoiler:she]] lends [[spoiler: her]]self [[spoiler:her]]self well to being a DracoInLeatherPants. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The First District]] arguably needed killing considering what they'd done to [[spoiler: Natsuki's [[spoiler:Natsuki's mother]], and while [[spoiler: Nao]] [[spoiler:Nao]] is more sympathetic than them [[spoiler: she]] [[spoiler:she]] could be seen as a second case, depending on the viewer's perspective.



* In the ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays'' anime, Sekai Saionji earned the rare distinction of being on both ends of this trope in a single episode. First, [[spoiler: she kills the JerkAss who has been cheating on her like crazy and recently refused to stay with her despite her thinking she's pregnant with his baby ''and'' having a reasonably good reason to think that way]]. And later, [[spoiler: she gets killed and cut up by the girl whom she stole said guy from, by kissing him and becoming his "other woman" after Sekai herself hooked them up, which kicked off said girl's BreakTheCutie deal]].

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* In the ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays'' anime, Sekai Saionji earned the rare distinction of being on both ends of this trope in a single episode. First, [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she kills the JerkAss who has been cheating on her like crazy and recently refused to stay with her despite her thinking she's pregnant with his baby ''and'' having a reasonably good reason to think that way]]. And later, [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she gets killed and cut up by the girl whom she stole said guy from, by kissing him and becoming his "other woman" after Sekai herself hooked them up, which kicked off said girl's BreakTheCutie deal]].



** And [[{{Jerkass}} Spandam]] in Franky's backstory, where it happened not once, but twice! First by Franky's father figure Tom, who would have possibly killed him haven't he been stopped after the first blow and then shortly after by [[spoiler: Franky himself]] who left him with permanent face damage. Franky and Robin then take revenge on him near the end of the Enies Lobby arc, with Robin slapping him repeatedly, Franky smashing him with his sword in elephant form, and Robin breaking his back. Breaking it CLEAN IN TWO.

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** And [[{{Jerkass}} Spandam]] in Franky's backstory, where it happened not once, but twice! First by Franky's father figure Tom, who would have possibly killed him haven't he been stopped after the first blow and then shortly after by [[spoiler: Franky [[spoiler:Franky himself]] who left him with permanent face damage. Franky and Robin then take revenge on him near the end of the Enies Lobby arc, with Robin slapping him repeatedly, Franky smashing him with his sword in elephant form, and Robin breaking his back. Breaking it CLEAN IN TWO.



** Subverted in the manga, when [[spoiler: Crona brutally kills [[AmbiguousGender their]] abusive mother Medusa]]. Because what's supposed to be the kicker's awesome moment, [[spoiler: actually was the last part of Medusa's ThanatosGambit]].

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** Subverted in the manga, when [[spoiler: Crona [[spoiler:Crona brutally kills [[AmbiguousGender their]] abusive mother Medusa]]. Because what's supposed to be the kicker's awesome moment, [[spoiler: actually [[spoiler:actually was the last part of Medusa's ThanatosGambit]].



* In ''Manga/MagicalXMiracle'', [[spoiler:Yue]] was absolutely merciless in interrogating and killing [[spoiler: Ardi]], although the former did have reason to be upset; [[spoiler: Ardi]] had him imprisoned and was about to kill one of the few people he actually cared about.

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* In ''Manga/MagicalXMiracle'', [[spoiler:Yue]] was absolutely merciless in interrogating and killing [[spoiler: Ardi]], [[spoiler:Ardi]], although the former did have reason to be upset; [[spoiler: Ardi]] [[spoiler:Ardi]] had him imprisoned and was about to kill one of the few people he actually cared about.



* In ''Manga/OniisamaE'', Mariko is a ClingyJealousGirl who follows Nanako everywhere, and is seen violently slapping a girl around in the second episode. Said girl, however, is Aya Misaki, a really cruel AlphaBitch who has ''just'' pressed ''both'' of Mariko's {{Berserk Button}}s: mistreating her beloved Nanako, [[spoiler: and mocking Mariko's DarkAndTroubledPast]]. Crazypants as she is, Mariko's epic slapping of Aya is awesome.

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* In ''Manga/OniisamaE'', Mariko is a ClingyJealousGirl who follows Nanako everywhere, and is seen violently slapping a girl around in the second episode. Said girl, however, is Aya Misaki, a really cruel AlphaBitch who has ''just'' pressed ''both'' of Mariko's {{Berserk Button}}s: mistreating her beloved Nanako, [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and mocking Mariko's DarkAndTroubledPast]]. Crazypants as she is, Mariko's epic slapping of Aya is awesome.



* ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'''s WhamEpisode 16 has [[spoiler: a flashback to Yuri Petrov's (Lunatic's) childhood when we see his abusive drunkard father beating his wife and then turning on his then-teenage son when Yuri tries to stop him. In response, Yuri activates his Next ability for the first time, and burns his father alive]]. Lunatic's methods are undeniably brutal, but in THAT instance...

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* ''Anime/TigerAndBunny'''s WhamEpisode 16 has [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a flashback to Yuri Petrov's (Lunatic's) childhood when we see his abusive drunkard father beating his wife and then turning on his then-teenage son when Yuri tries to stop him. In response, Yuri activates his Next ability for the first time, and burns his father alive]]. Lunatic's methods are undeniably brutal, but in THAT instance...



** In the very last episode, we have [[spoiler: Light running down the street, already riddled with bullet holes and probably not going to live much longer]], but that doesn't matter much to [[spoiler:Ryuk]]; he goes right ahead and [[spoiler: kills him anyway, just [[ItAmusedMe 'cause he wants to]] and if Light spends the rest of his life in prison, it'd be fairly boring to wait for him to die]].

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** In the very last episode, we have [[spoiler: Light [[spoiler:Light running down the street, already riddled with bullet holes and probably not going to live much longer]], but that doesn't matter much to [[spoiler:Ryuk]]; he goes right ahead and [[spoiler: kills [[spoiler:kills him anyway, just [[ItAmusedMe 'cause he wants to]] and if Light spends the rest of his life in prison, it'd be fairly boring to wait for him to die]].



* In the anime version of ''Manga/AkameGaKill'', Leone brutally beats [[spoiler: Prime Minister Honest, the corrupt ruler of the empire]] to death, slowly and painfully.

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* In the anime version of ''Manga/AkameGaKill'', Leone brutally beats [[spoiler: Prime [[spoiler:Prime Minister Honest, the corrupt ruler of the empire]] to death, slowly and painfully.



* One notable example in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' is when [[spoiler: Madara stabs Sasuke on the battlefield]]. Considering that [[spoiler: Sasuke]] has betrayed nearly every one of his allies and teammates, [[spoiler: and goes on to try to betray them again]], it's hard to feel too sorry for him.

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* One notable example in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' is when [[spoiler: Madara [[spoiler:Madara stabs Sasuke on the battlefield]]. Considering that [[spoiler: Sasuke]] [[spoiler:Sasuke]] has betrayed nearly every one of his allies and teammates, [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and goes on to try to betray them again]], it's hard to feel too sorry for him.



* The death of [[spoiler: Martin Sutter]] at ComicBook/{{X 23}}'s hands in ''ComicBook/InnocenceLost''. It's certainly meant to be a sign of just how off the slippery slope Rice has leaped, but damned if you don't feel he deserved it.

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* The death of [[spoiler: Martin [[spoiler:Martin Sutter]] at ComicBook/{{X 23}}'s hands in ''ComicBook/InnocenceLost''. It's certainly meant to be a sign of just how off the slippery slope Rice has leaped, but damned if you don't feel he deserved it.



* In ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'', Mr. Hyde brutally tortures, rapes, and murders a person. Normally this would have been a MoralEventHorizon, but the person he does this to happens to be [[spoiler: Griffin the Invisible Man, a murderer and rapist whom Hyde had just caught trying to sell out Earth to Martians]].

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* In ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'', Mr. Hyde brutally tortures, rapes, and murders a person. Normally this would have been a MoralEventHorizon, but the person he does this to happens to be [[spoiler: Griffin [[spoiler:Griffin the Invisible Man, a murderer and rapist whom Hyde had just caught trying to sell out Earth to Martians]].



* In ''Fanfic/TheLionKingAdventures'', not only does the Interceptor kill the immortal cub Shocker [[spoiler: by ''tearing his head off'', but he then buries him underground, leaving him trapped in an endless cycle of death and rebirth]].
* In the ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'' fic ''Fanfic/QueenOfAllOni'', when Jade finds the first mask, [[spoiler: Kaito, the General inside, proceeds to lie to her and is implied to have betrayed her when [[TheStarscream Valmont]] wore it, egging him on, not to mention the acts of evil from BEFORE he was sealed; so, after the mask is removed, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Jade EATS it]], consuming his essence. He had it coming]].
** Later on in the story, [[spoiler: EvilSorcerer Lung kidnaps Jade and tortures her to the brink of insanity and death trying to break her to his will. Therefore, no one in the audience was complaining when [[CoDragons Left and Right]] showed up to save her, with Right killing Lung as he [[VillainsWantMercy begged for mercy]].]] In fact, one reviewer even called it ''justice''.
** A while after that, [[spoiler: Jade kills Ikazuki, Tarakudo's [[TheDragon Dragon]] who had previously usurped control of the Shadow Hand from her and treated her like a slave, by breaking his mask and force feeding his chi to Viper (in order to [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwash]] her)]].

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* In ''Fanfic/TheLionKingAdventures'', not only does the Interceptor kill the immortal cub Shocker [[spoiler: by [[spoiler:by ''tearing his head off'', but he then buries him underground, leaving him trapped in an endless cycle of death and rebirth]].
* In the ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'' fic ''Fanfic/QueenOfAllOni'', when Jade finds the first mask, [[spoiler: Kaito, [[spoiler:Kaito, the General inside, proceeds to lie to her and is implied to have betrayed her when [[TheStarscream Valmont]] wore it, egging him on, not to mention the acts of evil from BEFORE he was sealed; so, after the mask is removed, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard Jade EATS it]], consuming his essence. He had it coming]].
** Later on in the story, [[spoiler: EvilSorcerer [[spoiler:EvilSorcerer Lung kidnaps Jade and tortures her to the brink of insanity and death trying to break her to his will. Therefore, no one in the audience was complaining when [[CoDragons Left and Right]] showed up to save her, with Right killing Lung as he [[VillainsWantMercy begged for mercy]].]] In fact, one reviewer even called it ''justice''.
** A while after that, [[spoiler: Jade [[spoiler:Jade kills Ikazuki, Tarakudo's [[TheDragon Dragon]] who had previously usurped control of the Shadow Hand from her and treated her like a slave, by breaking his mask and force feeding his chi to Viper (in order to [[BrainwashedAndCrazy brainwash]] her)]].



* In Red Witch's ''Sins of the Father,'' Walsh seizes an opportunity in the chaos of the Black Rose's attempted coup to [[spoiler: stab Senator Wheiner]]. While most of the fandom would agree the aforementioned "son of a bitch" definitely had it coming, the fact that he [[spoiler: leaves the Series 5 team in danger to do it]], and then runs off without leaving behind any answers, especially for the devastated Shane [[spoiler: who had just found out Walsh is his genetic father]], makes it a lot more nebulous.
* In the ''FanFic/TamersForeverSeries'', this is [[spoiler: Chaos's]] primary motivation for his short term plans.

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* In Red Witch's ''Sins of the Father,'' Walsh seizes an opportunity in the chaos of the Black Rose's attempted coup to [[spoiler: stab [[spoiler:stab Senator Wheiner]]. While most of the fandom would agree the aforementioned "son of a bitch" definitely had it coming, the fact that he [[spoiler: leaves [[spoiler:leaves the Series 5 team in danger to do it]], and then runs off without leaving behind any answers, especially for the devastated Shane [[spoiler: who [[spoiler:who had just found out Walsh is his genetic father]], makes it a lot more nebulous.
* In the ''FanFic/TamersForeverSeries'', this is [[spoiler: Chaos's]] [[spoiler:Chaos's]] primary motivation for his short term plans.



* ''FanFic/ABriefHistoryOfEquestria'': This was the general reaction in-universe when Princess Platinum [[spoiler: performed a [[ThePurge purge]] on her [[DeadlyDecadentCourt corrupt court]].]]

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* ''FanFic/ABriefHistoryOfEquestria'': This was the general reaction in-universe when Princess Platinum [[spoiler: performed [[spoiler:performed a [[ThePurge purge]] on her [[DeadlyDecadentCourt corrupt court]].]]



* It turns out [[spoiler: this was the main goal in Pharaoh's plan]] in the ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'' fanfic [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4267279/1/Hero-High-Sphinx-Academy Hero High: Sphinx Academy]]. [[spoiler: Yes this kid pretty much took over the world just to give his mother a kicking she so well deserved]].

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* It turns out [[spoiler: this [[spoiler:this was the main goal in Pharaoh's plan]] in the ''Franchise/{{Ben 10}}'' fanfic [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4267279/1/Hero-High-Sphinx-Academy Hero High: Sphinx Academy]]. [[spoiler: Yes [[spoiler:Yes, this kid pretty much took over the world just to give his mother a kicking she so well deserved]].



* Itachi [[spoiler: kills the rest of the Akatsuki]] to prevent interference between him and younger brother and cousin Sasuke and Himeko in ''Fanfic/TeenageJinchurikiShinobi''. This was meant to display his sadism.

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* Itachi [[spoiler: kills [[spoiler:kills the rest of the Akatsuki]] to prevent interference between him and younger brother and cousin Sasuke and Himeko in ''Fanfic/TeenageJinchurikiShinobi''. This was meant to display his sadism.



** When Filthy Rich screws Vulcan over on a deal by selling him out to the Mane Six (but notably keeps the money involved), Vulcan responds by taking Diamond Tiara as a hostage for weeks. He then, as a dedicated BullyHunter, takes the time to [[BreakTheHaughty psychologically break her]], before dumping her back on her father... after robbing Ponyville blind, and making sure everyone knows it's Filthy Rich's fault. Said stallion is then left with a ruined reputation, and a traumatized daughter who blames him for not saving her. [[spoiler: They both get better.]]

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** When Filthy Rich screws Vulcan over on a deal by selling him out to the Mane Six (but notably keeps the money involved), Vulcan responds by taking Diamond Tiara as a hostage for weeks. He then, as a dedicated BullyHunter, takes the time to [[BreakTheHaughty psychologically break her]], before dumping her back on her father... after robbing Ponyville blind, and making sure everyone knows it's Filthy Rich's fault. Said stallion is then left with a ruined reputation, and a traumatized daughter who blames him for not saving her. [[spoiler: They [[spoiler:They both get better.]]



** This might be a case of PayEvilUntoEvil since the Joker [[spoiler: had subjected Jason Todd to ColdBloodedTorture before setting the bomb that exploded and temporarily killed Jason, who later became the Red Hood.]]

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** This might be a case of PayEvilUntoEvil since the Joker [[spoiler: had [[spoiler:had subjected Jason Todd to ColdBloodedTorture before setting the bomb that exploded and temporarily killed Jason, who later became the Red Hood.]]



** Batman himself gets in on this in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' as part of his HeWhoFightsMonsters phase (a result of the events of ''Film/ManOfSteel'') involved branding rapists and human traffickers as targets for fellow inmates. [[spoiler: A sign of his CharacterDevelopment was not branding Lex Luthor.]]

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** Batman himself gets in on this in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' as part of his HeWhoFightsMonsters phase (a result of the events of ''Film/ManOfSteel'') involved branding rapists and human traffickers as targets for fellow inmates. [[spoiler: A [[spoiler:A sign of his CharacterDevelopment was not branding Lex Luthor.]]



* ''Film/TransformersAgeOfExtinction'': [[TheHero Optimus Prime]] kills [[spoiler: Harold Attinger, the human villain who ordered the slaughter of the Autobots who defended humanity in the first movie trilogy]].

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* ''Film/TransformersAgeOfExtinction'': [[TheHero Optimus Prime]] kills [[spoiler: Harold [[spoiler:Harold Attinger, the human villain who ordered the slaughter of the Autobots who defended humanity in the first movie trilogy]].



* The first book of ''Literature/CodexAlera'' has Kord. Kord is a brutal slaver who breaks female slaves by having them raped. He mistreats his elder son Aric and spoils his more handsome son Bittan [[spoiler: who later dies at the hands of Aldrick Ex Gladius]]. [[spoiler: Since Bittan was accused of rape, he ran the risk of losing his entire steadholt,]] which gave him an excuse for being a dick to everyone. Near the end of the book, after getting his spine crushed by [[spoiler: Isana]], he is tied down and eaten alive by several Horse-Clan Marat.

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* The first book of ''Literature/CodexAlera'' has Kord. Kord is a brutal slaver who breaks female slaves by having them raped. He mistreats his elder son Aric and spoils his more handsome son Bittan [[spoiler: who [[spoiler:who later dies at the hands of Aldrick Ex Gladius]]. [[spoiler: Since [[spoiler:Since Bittan was accused of rape, he ran the risk of losing his entire steadholt,]] which gave him an excuse for being a dick to everyone. Near the end of the book, after getting his spine crushed by [[spoiler: Isana]], [[spoiler:Isana]], he is tied down and eaten alive by several Horse-Clan Marat.



* ''Literature/TheReynardCycle'': In ''Reynard the Fox'', Reynard reveals that [[spoiler: when he young, he drugged his mother's pimp, along with his associates, barricaded the building they were in, and then burned them alive in a fire]].
** [[spoiler: [[SelfMadeOrphan Did we mention that his (comatose) mother was in there as well?]]]]

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* ''Literature/TheReynardCycle'': In ''Reynard the Fox'', Reynard reveals that [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when he young, he drugged his mother's pimp, along with his associates, barricaded the building they were in, and then burned them alive in a fire]].
** [[spoiler: [[SelfMadeOrphan [[spoiler:[[SelfMadeOrphan Did we mention that his (comatose) mother was in there as well?]]]]



** And this is before [[spoiler: he starts a fire that likely killed her, Esme Squalor, Sir, Principal Nero and some others, both nice and equally vile.]]

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** And this is before [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he starts a fire that likely killed her, Esme Squalor, Sir, Principal Nero and some others, both nice and equally vile.]]



* ''{{Series/Lost}}'' almost ran into this trope when [[spoiler:Michael shot [[TheScrappy Ana Lucia]]]]. The writers realized this, though, and [[spoiler: had him shoot the much more sympathetic Libby too]]. It also [[spoiler: caused an AlasPoorScrappy effect in regards to Ana Lucia herself.]] Not to mention, [[spoiler: we had just learned her DarkAndTroubledPast]]. Meeeeeep.

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* ''{{Series/Lost}}'' almost ran into this trope when [[spoiler:Michael shot [[TheScrappy Ana Lucia]]]]. The writers realized this, though, and [[spoiler: had [[spoiler:had him shoot the much more sympathetic Libby too]]. It also [[spoiler: caused [[spoiler:caused an AlasPoorScrappy effect in regards to Ana Lucia herself.]] Not to mention, [[spoiler: we [[spoiler:we had just learned her DarkAndTroubledPast]]. Meeeeeep.



* [[BigBad Katherine]] of ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'' is almost certainly the most evil and dangerous character on the show. [[spoiler: At least until [[TheManBehindtheMan Klaus]] arrived -- and don't get us started on [[GreaterScopeVillain Silas]].]] But since her first on-screen act of villainy was to stab [[spoiler:"Uncle" John Gilbert]], well...
* Featured in ''Series/{{House}}'' when [[spoiler: Chase indirectly kills the dictator. Everybody in the audience agrees with him that Dibala should have died, and the media coverage of the event is entirely positive, noting the hope that that would bring to the country, but Foreman and a priest tell him that he did a horrible, horrible thing and Cameron divorces him over it]].

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* [[BigBad Katherine]] of ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'' is almost certainly the most evil and dangerous character on the show. [[spoiler: At [[spoiler:At least until [[TheManBehindtheMan Klaus]] arrived -- and don't get us started on [[GreaterScopeVillain Silas]].]] But since her first on-screen act of villainy was to stab [[spoiler:"Uncle" John Gilbert]], well...
* Featured in ''Series/{{House}}'' when [[spoiler: Chase [[spoiler:Chase indirectly kills a dictator in the dictator. hospital's care. Everybody in the audience agrees with him that Dibala should have died, died and the media coverage of the event is entirely positive, noting the hope that that would bring to the country, but Foreman and a priest tell him that he did a horrible, horrible thing and Cameron divorces him over it]].



** [[spoiler: [[ImAHumanitarian Gareth]]]] ends up hacked into pieces after he tortured and ate people by luring them into a false safe zone. Rick and his friends were almost on his menu before they escaped and got revenge.
** [[spoiler: [[DomesticAbuser Pete]]]] is threatened by Carol for beating his family and is shot dead by Rick when he attempts to kill him while on a drunk, AxCrazy rampage.

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** [[spoiler: [[ImAHumanitarian [[spoiler:[[ImAHumanitarian Gareth]]]] ends up hacked into pieces after he tortured and ate people by luring them into a false safe zone. Rick and his friends were almost on his menu before they escaped and got revenge.
** [[spoiler: [[DomesticAbuser [[spoiler:[[DomesticAbuser Pete]]]] is threatened by Carol for beating his family and is shot dead by Rick when he attempts to kill him while on a drunk, AxCrazy rampage.



** And then [[spoiler: he's got eaten by his own dogs, courtesy of Sansa, whom he raped and abused.]]

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** And then [[spoiler: he's [[spoiler:he's got eaten by his own dogs, courtesy of Sansa, whom he raped and abused.]]



** Then there's his cold blooded [[spoiler: execution of one of the cultists. It was horrible enough to qualify him as the group's TokenEvilTeammate, but considering that the cultist was a nihilistic psycho who had tried to torture and kill Daniel..]].

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** Then there's his cold blooded [[spoiler: execution [[spoiler:execution of one of the cultists. It was horrible enough to qualify him as the group's TokenEvilTeammate, but considering that the cultist was a nihilistic psycho who had tried to torture and kill Daniel..]].



** During his VillainousBreakdown in Scenario 58 of ''Third VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ: Jigoku-hen'', [[spoiler: Gadlight destroys Cygus (the corrupt general within the Earth Federation) and a large portion of the Earth Federation fleet with a gigantic beam attack]].

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** During his VillainousBreakdown in Scenario 58 of ''Third VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ: Jigoku-hen'', [[spoiler: Gadlight [[spoiler:Gadlight destroys Cygus (the corrupt general within the Earth Federation) and a large portion of the Earth Federation fleet with a gigantic beam attack]].



** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', many players rejoice when [[spoiler: Sister Petrice is shot and killed by a Qunari archer]]. Others wanted to do it themselves.

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** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', many players rejoice when [[spoiler: Sister [[spoiler:Sister Petrice is shot and killed by a Qunari archer]]. Others wanted to do it themselves.



* ''Videogame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'':[[spoiler: The Joker's murder of Commissioner Loeb and dethroning of Black Mask fall under this trope. Although Joker doesn't care what he does, his attack on these two actually did more good than bad for Gotham City, a fact that he immediately uses to mock Batman]].

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* ''Videogame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'':[[spoiler: The ''Videogame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'':[[spoiler:The Joker's murder of Commissioner Loeb and dethroning of Black Mask fall under this trope. Although Joker doesn't care what he does, his attack on these two actually did more good than bad for Gotham City, a fact that he immediately uses to mock Batman]].



* Limstella from ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' is an emotionless DarkActionGirl who kicked several pups via killing [[spoiler: Ursula and at least one of the Reed brothers]]. But you positively ''cheer'' for her when she subjects [[spoiler: EvilMatriarch Sonia]] to a short yet ''brutal'' BreakThemByTalking and leaves her out there to bleed to death.
** Also, the epilogue mentions how [[spoiler: Zephiel from Bern commits patricide as he stabs his father King Desmond.]] The AssholeVictim, however, had tried to get the other killed ''several'' times [[spoiler: and once, when he was a child]], so you can't help at least think "good riddance, nice KarmicDeath"... Until you see how [[spoiler:Zephiel]] [[FromBadToWorse winds up becoming an even worse individual than his father.]] [[MoralEventHorizon Who crosses a couple of Moral Event horizons in the story that follows that game]].

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* Limstella from ''Franchise/FireEmblem'' is an emotionless DarkActionGirl who kicked several pups via killing [[spoiler: Ursula [[spoiler:Ursula and at least one of the Reed brothers]]. But you positively ''cheer'' for her when she subjects [[spoiler: EvilMatriarch [[spoiler:EvilMatriarch Sonia]] to a short yet ''brutal'' BreakThemByTalking and leaves her out there to bleed to death.
** Also, the epilogue mentions how [[spoiler: Zephiel [[spoiler:Zephiel from Bern commits patricide as he stabs his father King Desmond.]] The AssholeVictim, however, had tried to get the other killed ''several'' times [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and once, when he was a child]], so you can't help at least think "good riddance, nice KarmicDeath"... Until you see how [[spoiler:Zephiel]] [[FromBadToWorse winds up becoming an even worse individual than his father.]] [[MoralEventHorizon Who crosses a couple of Moral Event horizons in the story that follows that game]].



* In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion'', during the Dark Brotherhood Questline, you get to [[spoiler: kill Valen Dreth. Doesn't ring the proverbial bell? That was the Dunmer who was spewing acidic comments about your race at the very beginning of the game. You can even throw the "you're going to die in here" line right back in his face, much to his chagrin]]. And don't get started on [[spoiler: Mraj'Dar]]. Even more so if you play as a male dark elf. In that case he asks if you've got a wife back home in Morrowind. Of course you don't get to respond, but he says he'll look her up when he gets out and 'keep her company'.

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* In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion'', during the Dark Brotherhood Questline, you get to [[spoiler: kill [[spoiler:kill Valen Dreth. Doesn't ring the proverbial bell? That was the Dunmer who was spewing acidic comments about your race at the very beginning of the game. You can even throw the "you're going to die in here" line right back in his face, much to his chagrin]]. And don't get started on [[spoiler: Mraj'Dar]].[[spoiler:Mraj'Dar]]. Even more so if you play as a male dark elf. In that case he asks if you've got a wife back home in Morrowind. Of course you don't get to respond, but he says he'll look her up when he gets out and 'keep her company'.



* [[VideoGame/LANoire Jack Kelso]] gets a moment like this near the end of the game when he [[spoiler: shoots Leland Monroe, corrupt property tycoon and conspirator, in the leg. Then stomps on the wound to make a point]].

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* [[VideoGame/LANoire Jack Kelso]] gets a moment like this near the end of the game when he [[spoiler: shoots [[spoiler:shoots Leland Monroe, corrupt property tycoon and conspirator, in the leg. Then stomps on the wound to make a point]].



* After killing [[spoiler: Thomas Hickey]], a member of the templars in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'', one of your allies kicks his corpse. Connor calls him out on this, much to his disbelief.

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* After killing [[spoiler: Thomas [[spoiler:Thomas Hickey]], a member of the templars in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'', one of your allies kicks his corpse. Connor calls him out on this, much to his disbelief.



* You know, at first you might feel bad for Principal Takamine Yanagihori in ''VideoGame/CorpseParty'', his beloved school becomes tainted due to three sickening murders committed by his son and he kills himself because of the school being forced to close. Then you find out [[spoiler: he tried to rape and then murdered a woman in front of her child and then strangled that child to death. Suddenly his sentence of being forced to repeatedly throw himself off the roof of the school seems too nice of a punishment.]]
* ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'': [[spoiler: Carla's decision to infect Simmons with the C-Virus undoubtedly counts as this. Pretty hard ''not'' to cheer her on for it when we remember that this is the guy who killed the President and destroyed Tall Oaks while framing both Leon and Helena for both, and also held Helena's little sister hostage to {{blackmail}} Helena into helping him do so and then experimenting on her with the C-Virus regardless]].

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* You know, at first you might feel bad for Principal Takamine Yanagihori in ''VideoGame/CorpseParty'', his beloved school becomes tainted due to three sickening murders committed by his son and he kills himself because of the school being forced to close. Then you find out [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he tried to rape and then murdered a woman in front of her child and then strangled that child to death. Suddenly his sentence of being forced to repeatedly throw himself off the roof of the school seems too nice of a punishment.]]
* ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'': [[spoiler: Carla's [[spoiler:Carla's decision to infect Simmons with the C-Virus undoubtedly counts as this. Pretty hard ''not'' to cheer her on for it when we remember that this is the guy who killed the President and destroyed Tall Oaks while framing both Leon and Helena for both, and also held Helena's little sister hostage to {{blackmail}} Helena into helping him do so and then experimenting on her with the C-Virus regardless]].



** In Act 1, there's Bernard Loredo, the commandant of Flotsam Village, a corrupt and sleazy official who rules the town with an iron fist. He's also a [[FantasticRacism racist]] who constantly harasses the non human residents of Flotsam, and as such is constantly at war with the elven bandit Iorveth and his Scoiatel. But unless you choose to side with Vernon Roche near the end, you won't see the depths of his depravity which is [[spoiler: when you break into his estate and kill him, and find out that he has held prisoner an elven woman named Moril for nearly a year as his personal plaything. The fact that she bore his child and kills herself, is enough to shock Vernon Roche and his Blue Stripes, who hate elves, into silence. Suddenly you don't feel too bad having to kill him earlier]].

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** In Act 1, there's Bernard Loredo, the commandant of Flotsam Village, a corrupt and sleazy official who rules the town with an iron fist. He's also a [[FantasticRacism racist]] who constantly harasses the non human residents of Flotsam, and as such is constantly at war with the elven bandit Iorveth and his Scoiatel. But unless you choose to side with Vernon Roche near the end, you won't see the depths of his depravity which is [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when you break into his estate and kill him, and find out that he has held prisoner an elven woman named Moril for nearly a year as his personal plaything. The fact that she bore his child and kills herself, is enough to shock Vernon Roche and his Blue Stripes, who hate elves, into silence. Suddenly you don't feel too bad having to kill him earlier]].



** Also in Act 2, this time in Roche's path, there's King Henselt. Henselt allows Geralt, Roche and his Blue Stripes to stay at his camp in exchange for their help. But Henselt quickly changes his tune [[spoiler: when the plans of a rogue faction within his own army to oust him comes to light. It doesn't take long for Henselt to figure out that it was a scheme hatched by Vernon Roche, so he orders all the Blue Stripes executed and personally rapes Ves, Roche's female lieutenant. Geralt and Roche then head to Vergen and fight their way to Henselt, after which Geralt can either convince Roche to spare Henselt or step aside and let Roche kill him. Given that Henselt [[SmugSnake proudly boasts about raping Ves in their faces]], it feels very good watching Roche gut him like a pig]].

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** Also in Act 2, this time in Roche's path, there's King Henselt. Henselt allows Geralt, Roche and his Blue Stripes to stay at his camp in exchange for their help. But Henselt quickly changes his tune [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when the plans of a rogue faction within his own army to oust him comes to light. It doesn't take long for Henselt to figure out that it was a scheme hatched by Vernon Roche, so he orders all the Blue Stripes executed and personally rapes Ves, Roche's female lieutenant. Geralt and Roche then head to Vergen and fight their way to Henselt, after which Geralt can either convince Roche to spare Henselt or step aside and let Roche kill him. Given that Henselt [[SmugSnake proudly boasts about raping Ves in their faces]], it feels very good watching Roche gut him like a pig]].



* ''VideoGame/InfamousSecondSon'': While the KickThemWhileTheyAreDown option normally nets players [[KarmaMeter Evil Karma]], during the first boss fight against [[BigBad Brooke Augustine]], doing so actually nets the player Good Karma. It makes sense when one considers the fact that Augustine just [[spoiler: killed Delsin's brother Reggie right in front of him]].

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* ''VideoGame/InfamousSecondSon'': While the KickThemWhileTheyAreDown option normally nets players [[KarmaMeter Evil Karma]], during the first boss fight against [[BigBad Brooke Augustine]], doing so actually nets the player Good Karma. It makes sense when one considers the fact that Augustine just [[spoiler: killed [[spoiler:killed Delsin's brother Reggie right in front of him]].



** Also less ambiguous is Haley's murder of Crystal. Sure, cold-blooded murder is rarely a good thing, but it's hard to argue that she didn't have it coming. [[spoiler: This is subverted ''Don't Split the Party'', where Crystal was actively trying to kill Haley after she made peace with the Thieves' Guild while they recovered Roy's body and made it absolutely clear that she would continue to do so. Rich Burlew explains in the commentary that, by dropping that sequence of strips from the online comic for pacing reasons, Haley's decision comes across a lot harsher but he didn't realise this at the time.]]

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** Also less ambiguous is Haley's murder of Crystal. Sure, cold-blooded murder is rarely a good thing, but it's hard to argue that she didn't have it coming. [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This is subverted ''Don't Split the Party'', where Crystal was actively trying to kill Haley after she made peace with the Thieves' Guild while they recovered Roy's body and made it absolutely clear that she would continue to do so. Rich Burlew explains in the commentary that, by dropping that sequence of strips from the online comic for pacing reasons, Haley's decision comes across a lot harsher but he didn't realise this at the time.]]



** Shortly after that, [[spoiler: Tarquin [[OffingTheOffspring killing Nale]] in retaliation, since he was a loose cannon who simultaneously disowned his father and proudly declared that he murdered said father's best friend]].

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** Shortly after that, [[spoiler: Tarquin [[spoiler:Tarquin [[OffingTheOffspring killing Nale]] in retaliation, since he was a loose cannon who simultaneously disowned his father and proudly declared that he murdered said father's best friend]].



* In ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'', after [[spoiler: caging a copy of The Other within herself]], nearly killing [[spoiler: Zeetha]], escaping Violetta and Higgs, and beating down [[spoiler: Tarvek]], [[spoiler: Zola]] makes the mistake of hitting Agatha with a potentially lethal wound to the chest. Cue an UnstoppableRage-fueled NoHoldsBarredBeatdown by [[spoiler: Tarvek]]. Nearly every poster in the comic's fan communities hoped he'd kill [[spoiler: her]], and the groans of frustration were so loud they practically echoed through the Internet when [[spoiler: Gil interfered]].
** Also Anevka Sturmvoraus fatally electrocuting her father; he was directly responsible for [[TomatoInTheMirror her unfortunate condition]], not to mention all the other girls he killed trying to [[spoiler: bring back The Other.]]

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* In ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'', after [[spoiler: caging [[spoiler:caging a copy of The Other within herself]], nearly killing [[spoiler: Zeetha]], [[spoiler:Zeetha]], escaping Violetta and Higgs, and beating down [[spoiler: Tarvek]], [[spoiler: Zola]] [[spoiler:Tarvek]], [[spoiler:Zola]] makes the mistake of hitting Agatha with a potentially lethal wound to the chest. Cue an UnstoppableRage-fueled NoHoldsBarredBeatdown by [[spoiler: Tarvek]]. [[spoiler:Tarvek]]. Nearly every poster in the comic's fan communities hoped he'd kill [[spoiler: her]], [[spoiler:her]], and the groans of frustration were so loud they practically echoed through the Internet when [[spoiler: Gil [[spoiler:Gil interfered]].
** Also Anevka Sturmvoraus fatally electrocuting her father; he was directly responsible for [[TomatoInTheMirror her unfortunate condition]], not to mention all the other girls he killed trying to [[spoiler: bring [[spoiler:bring back The Other.]]



* In ''Webcomic/SuicideForHire'', some of the customers of our {{Sociopathic Hero}}es come under this trope...[[spoiler: The "asshole," and DomesticAbuser Tybalt Montlet.]] The deaths of the particularly deserving are not at all pretty.

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* In ''Webcomic/SuicideForHire'', some of the customers of our {{Sociopathic Hero}}es come under this trope...[[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The "asshole," and DomesticAbuser Tybalt Montlet.]] The deaths of the particularly deserving are not at all pretty.



** Also, in ''Alien Force'', Kevin [[spoiler: refuses to SaveTheVillain, in this case the one who murdered his father, and lets him fall into the sun]]. A morally questionable act, but not one the audience is going to mind all that much.

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** Also, in ''Alien Force'', Kevin [[spoiler: refuses [[spoiler:refuses to SaveTheVillain, in this case the one who murdered his father, and lets him fall into the sun]]. A morally questionable act, but not one the audience is going to mind all that much.



** The list of people who [[spoiler: have their bending taken away by Amon include the leader of a gang, three douchebags who cheat at Pro Bending, and possibly the Republic City's councilman, [[SmugSnake Tarrlok]]]]. And while the lattermost of these [[spoiler:turns out to have a DarkAndTroubledPast and atones for his actions thereafter]], he still had it coming at the time. [[TheChessmaster This is a major part of Amon's plan,]] both building peoples' confidence in him by taking out the less sympathetic, and using them to generalize all benders as being corrupt and power-hungry. This is also why he doesn't de-bend Korra when he has a golden opportunity to, [[DontCreateAMartyr he would only be creating a martyr.]] As his number of followers grow, he becomes much less picky.
** In Book 3, [[WellIntentionedExtremist Zaheer]] [[spoiler: dooming his contactó[[SpinOffspring Suyin Beifong]]'s [[TreacherousAdvisor ratfink of a former adjutant]] to a FateWorseThanDeath]]. Shortly thereafter, he follows this up by [[spoiler:assassinating the [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen corrupt and incompetent Earth Queen]]]].

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** The list of people who [[spoiler: have [[spoiler:have their bending taken away by Amon include the leader of a gang, three douchebags who cheat at Pro Bending, and possibly the Republic City's councilman, [[SmugSnake Tarrlok]]]]. And while the lattermost of these [[spoiler:turns out to have a DarkAndTroubledPast and atones for his actions thereafter]], he still had it coming at the time. [[TheChessmaster This is a major part of Amon's plan,]] both building peoples' confidence in him by taking out the less sympathetic, and using them to generalize all benders as being corrupt and power-hungry. This is also why he doesn't de-bend Korra when he has a golden opportunity to, [[DontCreateAMartyr he would only be creating a martyr.]] As his number of followers grow, he becomes much less picky.
** In Book 3, [[WellIntentionedExtremist Zaheer]] [[spoiler: dooming [[spoiler:dooming his contactó[[SpinOffspring Suyin Beifong]]'s [[TreacherousAdvisor ratfink of a former adjutant]] to a FateWorseThanDeath]]. Shortly thereafter, he follows this up by [[spoiler:assassinating the [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen corrupt and incompetent Earth Queen]]]].



* ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'': Silas is arguably one of the (morally) worst characters, mainly by virtue of ColdBloodedTorture, TranshumanTreachery, and UngratefulBastard. [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial No particular order there]]. But in "Human Factor" [[spoiler: he uses the body of Breakdown, one of the more sympathetic Decepticons and a past dissection victim of his, as a HumongousMecha suit. This is made possible when his Mech mooks saved him, and transplanted his body to Breakdown's, and he thanks them by killing them and offers his services to Megatron (it's worth noting that Megatron himself was disgusted). Silas' plan doesn't... work out, and Megatron is not pleased. He hands Silas over to Knock Out (who is very pleased, having once been ThoseTwoBadGuys with Breakdown) for dissection. The scene is pure terror. And an incredibly disconcerting heartwarming scene]].
** Silas finally [[spoiler: is killed by Airachnid as she's defending herself from what she thinks is a (zombified) Breakdown. When she rips open Breakdown's torso and discovers Silas, she nor the audience is not particularly upset he went out in such a way]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'': Silas is arguably one of the (morally) worst characters, mainly by virtue of ColdBloodedTorture, TranshumanTreachery, and UngratefulBastard. [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial No particular order there]]. But in "Human Factor" [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he uses the body of Breakdown, one of the more sympathetic Decepticons and a past dissection victim of his, as a HumongousMecha suit. This is made possible when his Mech mooks saved him, and transplanted his body to Breakdown's, and he thanks them by killing them and offers his services to Megatron (it's worth noting that Megatron himself was disgusted). Silas' plan doesn't... work out, and Megatron is not pleased. He hands Silas over to Knock Out (who is very pleased, having once been ThoseTwoBadGuys with Breakdown) for dissection. The scene is pure terror. And an incredibly disconcerting heartwarming scene]].
** Silas finally [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is killed by Airachnid as she's defending herself from what she thinks is a (zombified) Breakdown. When she rips open Breakdown's torso and discovers Silas, she nor the audience is not particularly upset he went out in such a way]].



* After watching Lucy being a total bitch to Mirta for most of the ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'' episodes they feature in before the Miss Magix contest (a beauty pageant), it's hard to feel bad for her when the Trix cancel their illusion and reveal her hideous true face as she's being crowned the winner, or in the next episode when all the other Cloud Tower students make fun of her as a result. [[spoiler: This whole story was changed in the 4Kids dub, so that Bloom kills the spell and everyone makes fun of Mirta in the next episode instead.]]

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* After watching Lucy being a total bitch to Mirta for most of the ''WesternAnimation/WinxClub'' episodes they feature in before the Miss Magix contest (a beauty pageant), it's hard to feel bad for her when the Trix cancel their illusion and reveal her hideous true face as she's being crowned the winner, or in the next episode when all the other Cloud Tower students make fun of her as a result. [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This whole story was changed in the 4Kids dub, so that Bloom kills the spell and everyone makes fun of Mirta in the next episode instead.]]



** "Doug to the Rescue": Roger Klotz challenged Doug to a fight, where the title character just looked at him and [[spoiler: won without moving and before Bone shows up, through Bone should've been okay with the fact that no-one was physically hurt]].

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** "Doug to the Rescue": Roger Klotz challenged Doug to a fight, where the title character just looked at him and [[spoiler: won [[spoiler:won without moving and before Bone shows up, through Bone should've been okay with the fact that no-one was physically hurt]].



** Although it should be noted that [[spoiler: Simon]] had no idea any of that happened. In fact, [[spoiler: he]] had no idea who Ash even ''was.'' [[spoiler: He]] felt bad about doing it though[[note]]Although if Simon knew who Ash really was, he would have still punch him regardless as he told to Marcy[[/note]].

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** Although it should be noted that [[spoiler: Simon]] [[spoiler:Simon]] had no idea any of that happened. In fact, [[spoiler: he]] [[spoiler:he]] had no idea who Ash even ''was.'' [[spoiler: He]] [[spoiler:He]] felt bad about doing it though[[note]]Although if Simon knew who Ash really was, he would have still punch him regardless as he told to Marcy[[/note]].
1st Jul '17 9:30:15 AM Ilya_Rysenkov
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There's nothing quite so evil as when a character takes a clear step toward villainy and decides to KickTheDog. Sometimes, though, the kick falls flat--not because it wasn't evil, mind you. The intent, malice and ill will are all there. It's just that at this moment, the dog isn't a sweet innocent puppy. It happens to be a devious son of a bitch that's trying to sink its teeth into someone's leg. This is one effective way to set up a believable StartOfDarkness while keeping the character more sympathetic than he would appear if his victim was an innocent, despite the fact that it was mere coincidence that he wasn't.

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There's nothing quite so evil as when a character takes a clear step toward villainy and decides to KickTheDog. Sometimes, though, the kick falls flat--not because it wasn't evil, mind you. The intent, malice and ill will are all there. It's just that at this moment, the dog isn't a sweet sweetr innocent puppy. It happens to be a devious son of a bitch that's trying to sink its teeth into someone's leg. This is one effective way to set up a believable StartOfDarkness while keeping the character more sympathetic than he would appear if his victim was an innocent, despite the fact that it was mere coincidence that he wasn't.


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** And then [[spoiler: he's got eaten by his own dogs, courtesy of Sansa, whom he raped and abused.]]
29th Jun '17 2:29:07 AM bt8257
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Suffice to say that the PayEvilUntoEvil can have a perpetrator of almost any morality while the Kick the Son of a Bitch is always a case of EvilVersusEvil.
See also KickTheDog; TakeThatScrappy; AssholeVictim; EvenEvilHasStandards. Compare with AlasPoorScrappy, PokeThePoodle, and DesignatedVillain. Also compare--but do not confuse--with PayEvilUntoEvil. Scenes like this often qualify for LessDisturbingInContext.

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Suffice to say that the PayEvilUntoEvil can have a perpetrator of almost any morality while the Kick the Son of a Bitch is always a case of EvilVersusEvil.
EvilVersusEvil. See also KickTheDog; TakeThatScrappy; AssholeVictim; EvenEvilHasStandards. Compare with AlasPoorScrappy, PokeThePoodle, and DesignatedVillain. Also compare--but do not confuse--with PayEvilUntoEvil. Scenes like this often qualify for LessDisturbingInContext.
26th Jun '17 1:24:23 PM boxorak
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-->'''Cell:''' Next time, [[Can'tCatchUp why don't you remember your place like the rest of them...and wait for Goku.]]

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-->'''Cell:''' Next time, [[Can'tCatchUp [[CantCatchUp why don't you remember your place like the rest of them...and wait for Goku.]]
26th Jun '17 1:21:57 PM boxorak
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** Perfect Cell's CurbStompBattle against Vegeta ends up being ''even more'' brutal than canon, if only because here it ends with Cell [[BreakThemByTalking gives Vegeta a little suggestion]]:
-->'''Cell:''' Next time, [[Can'tCatchUp why don't you remember your place like the rest of them...and wait for Goku.]]
13th Jun '17 3:59:29 PM TheNerfGuy
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** When Sentinel was captured by Ramjet (Liar Starscream) the Autobots attempt to subdue him but they wind up hitting Sentinel in the process.
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