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* ''Series/ScreamQueens2015'': At the end of Season 1, [[spoiler: Hester]] frames the Chanels for the Red Devil killings and walks away scot-free. By the time Season 2 [[TimeSkip picks up]], however, it's revealed that she's since been [[EngineeredPublicConfession tricked into confessing]], and subsequently locked up.
19th Sep '16 1:42:32 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* Sentinel Prime from ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' is an odd example. In the backstory, he's a KarmaHoudini (being responsible for the incident which got Optimus ReassignedToAntarctica and turned Elita-1 into Blackarachnia), but as soon as he lands on Earth, karma decides to [[HumiliationConga make an example out of him]], starting with disrespecting human traffic laws and falling off an unfinished overpass.

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* Sentinel Prime from ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' is an odd example. In the backstory, he's a KarmaHoudini (being (he was responsible for the incident which that got Optimus ReassignedToAntarctica Prime kicked to space bridge repair and turned Elita-1 turned into Blackarachnia), Blackarachnia, but got off scot-free and is now part of the Elite Guard because Optimus took the blame), but as soon as he lands on Earth, karma decides to [[HumiliationConga make an example out of him]], starting with disrespecting human traffic laws and falling off an unfinished overpass.
17th Sep '16 7:12:58 AM rafi
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* An Archie comic from the early 70s starts with Reggie yanking away a pennant from Jughead and saying "Take your hands off!" Jughead replies "I can't, they're attached to my arms!" and proceeds to drive Reggie crazy with his incessant recital of "Dem Bones." Later Jughead realizes he may have gone too far and seeks to apologize. He finds Reggie half way around the bend and tells him "I didn't want to upset you." This drives Reggie even crazier as he didn't accept it as a valid apology.

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* An Archie [[Franchise/ArchieComics Archie]] comic from the early 70s starts with Reggie yanking away a pennant from Jughead and saying "Take your hands off!" Jughead replies "I can't, they're attached to my arms!" and proceeds to drive Reggie crazy with his incessant recital of "Dem Bones." Later Jughead realizes he may have gone too far and seeks to apologize. He finds Reggie half way around the bend and tells him "I didn't want to upset you." This drives Reggie even crazier as he didn't accept it as a valid apology.
17th Sep '16 7:11:32 AM rafi
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* ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'''s Accelerator didn't ''quite'' go unpunished, but he might as well have. What happened? Beaten up and kicked out of a program he actually didn't want to participate in in the first place. What had he done? ''Killed ten thousand teenage (kinda) girls'' and planned to kill another ten thousand after that. So that people would quit messing with him. ''Maybe.'' After this, he pulls a HeelFaceTurn... and takes a bullet in the forehead for it. Permanent brain damage that leaves him unable to speak properly, use higher brain functions or motor control without outside assistance (which, ironically, comes from the other ten thousand girls he didn't kill).



* In ''Manga/FullMetalAlchemist'', [[InvokedTrope invoking this trope]] is a core part of [[TheAtoner Roy Mustang's]] motivation. As a soldier in a past civil war, Mustang and his fellow soldiers committed many horrible atrocities, however, because they were on the winning side, [[KarmaHoudini they were all commended and treated as war heroes.]] Mustang's goal throughout the series is to become the Führer of the country, so that he can ensure that this is rectified. When his subordinate (and LoveInterest) points out that this means Mustang will most likely be tried as a war criminal himself and sent off to prison, Mustang states that that was his plan all along. [[spoiler: We never see it occur, anyhow.]]
* In the ''[[LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}} Monogatari]]'' series, Daiki seems to get away with scamming kids with little more than Koyomi's stern warning for him to never return. When he ''does'' return, he is implied to have gained some remorse over his past actions (not that he's going to admit it), so he goes out of his way to save Koyomi from a Snake God-influenced Nadeko and convince her to move on from her obsession with him, even if he has little to gain, or without the direct involvement of Kanbaru, the only person in town he has ever shown kindness to. And all it got him was [[spoiler:a potentially fatal wound from one of the boys he scammed in the past]].



* ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'''s Accelerator didn't ''quite'' go unpunished, but he might as well have. What happened? Beaten up and kicked out of a program he actually didn't want to participate in in the first place. What had he done? ''Killed ten thousand teenage (kinda) girls'' and planned to kill another ten thousand after that. So that people would quit messing with him. ''Maybe.'' After this, he pulls a HeelFaceTurn... and takes a bullet in the forehead for it. Permanent brain damage that leaves him unable to speak properly, use higher brain functions or motor control without outside assistance (which, ironically, comes from the other ten thousand girls he didn't kill).
* In the ''[[LightNovel/{{Bakemonogatari}} Monogatari]]'' series, Daiki seems to get away with scamming kids with little more than Koyomi's stern warning for him to never return. When he ''does'' return, he is implied to have gained some remorse over his past actions (not that he's going to admit it), so he goes out of his way to save Koyomi from a Snake God-influenced Nadeko and convince her to move on from her obsession with him, even if he has little to gain, or without the direct involvement of Kanbaru, the only person in town he has ever shown kindness to. And all it got him was [[spoiler:a potentially fatal wound from one of the boys he scammed in the past]].



* In ''Manga/{{Fullmetal Alchemist}}'', [[InvokedTrope invoking this trope]] is a core part of [[TheAtoner Roy Mustang's]] motivation. As a soldier in a past civil war, Mustang and his fellow soldiers committed many horrible atrocities, however, because they were on the winning side, [[KarmaHoudini they were all commended and treated as war heroes.]] Mustang's goal throughout the series is to become the Führer of the country, so that he can ensure that this is rectified. When his subordinate (and LoveInterest) points out that this means Mustang will most likely be tried as a war criminal himself and sent off to prison, Mustang states that that was his plan all along. [[spoiler: We never see it occur, anyhow.]]



* ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'': Peter gets away with abuse, attempted murder, genuined murder, and once accidentally burned down a hospital, he gets away with those. In some episodes he's hit with PoorCommunicationKills and ends up the "sympathetic" character, his interactions with Carter end with Carter screwing him over.
* Similarly Roger of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' is the resident ComedicSociopath, ceaselessly getting away with abusing, conning or murdering for self gain or just for fun. Every now and then however, he suffers a violent comeuppance, usually courtesy of Stan.
* ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy'', after years and years of having the Eds [[LaserGuidedKarma punished all the damn time]], '''finally''' gives everyone else their karmic retribution in TheMovie. [[spoiler:And thankfully, it actually brings a genuine HeelFaceTurn from the other cul-de-sac kids, who realized that Eddy's brother, to whom they looked up to, is ''[[BrokenPedestal far worse]]'' [[GreaterScopeVillain than they imagined]], (not to mention that he's likely the direct cause of Eddy's jerkassery in the first place) even conspiring with the Eds to give him a much-deserved comeuppance.]]
** [[spoiler: A hindsight case with Eddy's Brother. Though he never appeared beforehand, it was clear he was a sadistic BigBrotherBully to Eddy, and likely was one his entire life. His just deserts finally come in the special where he gets smacked hard into a steel door and given "mouth to mouth" by the Kanker Sisters. WordOfGod notes that, [[BloodlessCarnage compared to the usual standards of the show]], it took very little to actually knock him out since he had been dishing out abuse his whole life and almost never experienced it himself.]]

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* Creator/SethMacFarlane shows had some examples:
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''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'': Peter gets away with abuse, attempted murder, genuined murder, and once accidentally burned down a hospital, he gets away with those. In some episodes he's hit with PoorCommunicationKills and ends up the "sympathetic" character, his interactions with Carter end with Carter screwing him over.
* ** Similarly Roger of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' is the resident ComedicSociopath, ceaselessly getting away with abusing, conning or murdering for self gain or just for fun. Every now and then however, he suffers a violent comeuppance, usually courtesy of Stan.
* ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy'', after years and years ** Rallo from ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow''. He does get away with a lot of having the Eds [[LaserGuidedKarma things that he really should be punished all the damn time]], '''finally''' gives everyone else their for, but there are times where he gets punished (or some kind of karmic retribution in TheMovie. [[spoiler:And thankfully, it actually brings a genuine HeelFaceTurn from the other cul-de-sac kids, who realized that Eddy's brother, to whom they looked up to, is ''[[BrokenPedestal far worse]]'' [[GreaterScopeVillain than they imagined]], (not to mention that he's likely the direct cause of Eddy's jerkassery in the first place) even conspiring with the Eds to give him a much-deserved comeuppance.]]
** [[spoiler: A hindsight case with Eddy's Brother. Though he never appeared beforehand, it was clear he was a sadistic BigBrotherBully to Eddy, and likely was one his entire life. His just deserts finally come in the special where he gets smacked hard into a steel door and given "mouth to mouth" by the Kanker Sisters. WordOfGod notes that, [[BloodlessCarnage compared to the usual standards of the show]], it took very little to actually knock him out since he had been dishing out abuse his whole life and almost never experienced it himself.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'': In the post-movie seasons, Mr. Krabs almost constantly gets away with all manner of horrible deeds, not the least of which nearly driving Plankton to suicide in "One Coarse Meal" for his own sadistic amusement. That being said, episodes such as "The Cent of Money" and "Patty Caper" end with him getting a suitable comeuppance.

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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'': In ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy'', after years and years of having the post-movie seasons, Mr. Krabs almost constantly gets away Eds [[LaserGuidedKarma punished all the damn time]], '''finally''' gives everyone else their karmic retribution in TheMovie. [[spoiler:And thankfully, it actually brings a genuine HeelFaceTurn from the other cul-de-sac kids, who realized that Eddy's brother, to whom they looked up to, is ''[[BrokenPedestal far worse]]'' [[GreaterScopeVillain than they imagined]], (not to mention that he's likely the direct cause of Eddy's jerkassery in the first place) even conspiring with all manner of horrible deeds, not the least of which nearly driving Plankton Eds to suicide in "One Coarse Meal" for his own sadistic amusement. That being said, episodes such as "The Cent of Money" and "Patty Caper" end with give him getting a suitable much-deserved comeuppance.]]
** [[spoiler: A hindsight case with Eddy's Brother. Though he never appeared beforehand, it was clear he was a sadistic BigBrotherBully to Eddy, and likely was one his entire life. His just deserts finally come in the special where he gets smacked hard into a steel door and given "mouth to mouth" by the Kanker Sisters. WordOfGod notes that, [[BloodlessCarnage compared to the usual standards of the show]], it took very little to actually knock him out since he had been dishing out abuse his whole life and almost never experienced it himself.]]


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* ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'': In the post-movie seasons, Mr. Krabs almost constantly gets away with all manner of horrible deeds, not the least of which nearly driving Plankton to suicide in "One Coarse Meal" for his own sadistic amusement. That being said, episodes such as "The Cent of Money" and "Patty Caper" end with him getting a suitable comeuppance.
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* The second season of ''WesternAnimation/TransformersRescueBots'' CorruptCorporateExecutive Madeline Pynch gets away with illgeal digging, including brainwashing the town of Griffin Rock into doing it, activates a doomsday weapon by accident and ultimately almost sinking the town--and unlike MadScientist Dr. Morocco, gets away scot free for that last stunt. The Season 4 episode "Cody's 11" sees Karma deliver a swift kick to her ass as [[spoiler: the Burns and Bots decide to take back what she stole after she swiped some unstable Energon and tried to market it as an alternate energy source, and had the foresight to switch the mid-wiping Verne Device out with a fake and record her confession. Even her attempt to blackmail them fails as the town has learned the true nature of the Bots at the start of the season and accepted them.]]
11th Sep '16 7:36:02 AM Luigifan
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Sometimes, a character seems like a KarmaHoudini. However, certain circumstances and actions taken can result in the vicious retribution of {{Karma}}, [[CallItKarma related phenomena]] and even [[HoistByHisOwnPetard his own mistakes]]:

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Sometimes, a character seems like a KarmaHoudini. However, certain circumstances and actions taken can result in the vicious retribution of {{Karma}}, [[CallItKarma related phenomena]] phenomena]], and even [[HoistByHisOwnPetard his own mistakes]]:



Karma may get vindictive and make even [[DisproportionateRetribution minor blemishes seriously punished]] while [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished good deeds are belittled]]. The expiration of a Karma Houdini Warranty tends to turn the character into TheWoobie or a JerkassWoobie for the audience... but this isn't the case in-universe. The other characters (and the author) usually believe that the character is getting their just deserts, and show NoSympathy. If it is the first condition that is met, then it may be a case of RedemptionEqualsAffliction.

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Karma may get vindictive and make even [[DisproportionateRetribution minor blemishes seriously punished]] while [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished good deeds are belittled]]. The expiration of a Karma Houdini Warranty tends to turn the character into TheWoobie or a JerkassWoobie for the audience... but this isn't the case in-universe. The other characters (and the author) usually believe that the character is getting their just deserts, desserts, and show NoSympathy. If it is the first condition that is met, then it may be a case of RedemptionEqualsAffliction.
16th Aug '16 7:13:03 AM Vir
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* Will Harrangue from ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'' somehow managed to get away with creating a KillerRobot and sending it to kill Ben, even avoiding to get arrested. As a result, most of his appearances in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' essentially consist in him getting everything in the face: [[LesCollaborateurs him supporting the Inkurseans' invasion of Earth]] in "Frogs of War" causes him to lose ratings when the occupation is over, and he eventually [[KarmicTransformation gets turned against his will into an alien]].

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* Will Harrangue Harangue from ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'' somehow managed to get away with creating a KillerRobot and sending it to kill Ben, even avoiding to get arrested. As a result, most of his appearances in ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' essentially consist in him getting everything in the face: [[LesCollaborateurs him supporting the Inkurseans' invasion of Earth]] in "Frogs of War" causes him to lose ratings when the occupation is over, and he eventually [[KarmicTransformation gets turned against his will into an alien]].
8th Aug '16 6:49:25 AM Monolaf317
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* ''WebAnimation/TheMostPopularGirlsInSchool'': In Episode 58, [[spoiler: Jenna Darabond, who reveals that she burned down the Atchison mall way back in Episode 31, finally gets arrested for her actions thanks to [[TheChessmaster Mackenzie]].]]
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7th Aug '16 3:51:45 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* Miles Edgeworth, from ''VisualNovel/AceAttorney'', starts out as an AmoralAttorney prosecutor who does what it takes to get a win, including coaching witnesses and concealing (but not forging) evidence. After Phoenix Wright beats him a couple of times, he starts to look more for the person who is ''really'' guilty, instead of just assuming it's the defendant. Immediately afterward, his mentor attempts to have him framed for murder (and in the process, make him relive his guilt for the death of his father), the police chief tries something similar, rumors begin to fly about all his dirty tactics, and he learns -- to his horror -- that he won the big case that made his name using forged evidence.
** All of the above is probably justified, since the Ace Attorney courts are a crooked system. They liked Edgeworth as a man who would go for a conviction and ask no questions -- for him to start honestly pursuing the truth makes him a threat. Fortunately, with Phoenix's help, he rises above it all and becomes an InternalReformist.

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* Miles Edgeworth, from ''VisualNovel/AceAttorney'', starts out as an AmoralAttorney prosecutor who does what it takes to get a win, including coaching witnesses and concealing (but not forging) evidence. After Phoenix Wright beats him a couple of times, he starts to look more for the person who is ''really'' guilty, instead of just assuming it's the defendant. defendant. Immediately afterward, his mentor attempts to have frame him framed for murder (and in the process, make makes him relive his guilt for the death of his father), the police chief tries something similar, rumors begin to fly about all his dirty tactics, dealings, and he learns -- to his horror -- that he won the big case that made his name using forged evidence.
evidence.
** All of the above is probably justified, since the Ace Attorney courts are a crooked system. They liked Edgeworth as a man who would go for a conviction and ask no questions -- for him to start when he started honestly pursuing the truth makes him he became a threat. Fortunately, with Phoenix's help, he rises above it all and becomes an InternalReformist.
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