History Main / JerkassHasAPoint

* In the ''ComicBook/LuckyLuke'' film ''Daisy Town'', Joe Dalton, out for revenge against Lucky Luke and the titular town, tries to provoke a local Native tribe into attacking them... by warning them of a future in which the railways have brought civilization across the plains, the buffaloes have been driven off, and the natives are reduced to selling souvenirs. The chief still makes the Daltons prisoners for their bounties, but he decides to attack the town to prevent the BadFuture.

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* This very wiki’s own entry for "NeverMyFault" on {{SelfDemonstrating.SuperboyPrime}}:
-->"It’s really not when you actually stop and think about it. Since some worthless DC writer who CantTakeCriticism because of their terribly thin skin writes me to do all these horrible things, it’s really not MY fault but [[WritersSuck THEIRS]]. After all, there’s no such thing as bad characters, just BAD WRITERS."

*** She left Lilo at home alone accidentally -- Cobra doesn't know that Nani went to pick Lilo up from hula class, but Lilo decided to walk herself home and locked herself in -- left the stove on, and has been falling behind on household chores because she's too busy working to pay off all of the bills using her meager wages. Lilo also exhibits loads of TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior and has an ambiguously defined mental disorder that makes it difficult for her to interact with others. Even though it's obvious that Lilo isn't being abused in any way, he bluntly tells Nani that what’s going on isn’t an acceptable living environment for her sister.
*** After Nani loses her job as a waitress, Cobra gives her three days to find another job, or else he'll put Lilo in the foster care system. While the ultimatum is slightly harsh, he's completely right that Nani will be unable to provide for Lilo or even herself if she doesn't have any source of income to pay for food or other necessities.

** Even Nani has a point, while arguing with her little sister isn't very productive, asking her angrily if she actually wants to be taken away after the disastrous visit with the social worker she does genuinely seem to wonder if that's what Lilo actually wants. Nani is trying her best while Lilo flat out implies that her sister hits her with bricks in a pillowcase, and also refuses to communicate to Nani when the woman is trying to get her to talk about why she behaved like that, just screaming no over and over again. Nani clearly made an effort to coax Lilo on how to get through these visits so they can stay together while the little girl in her own grief seems to be intentionally making everything harder. While she isn't actually doing it with that goal in mind, it's no wonder her sister is beginning to think that and lashes out in her own grief because Lilo refuses to let her older sister try to help her.

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-->-- '''James Acaster''' during his stand-up special ''Repertoire''

* ''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'': Mr. Incredible could have let Buddy down easier in the beginning, and he admits that he was wrong when confronted by Syndrome, but the kid was trying to jump straight into heroing with no training or experience and consequently almost got himself killed. Also, he had offscreen given the kid lots of merchandise while trying to let him down gently.

** When Susan confronts Tom about being a ManipulativeBastard to score a date with her, he claims ''everyone'' manipulates people by responding in ways to get certain reactions. He sees himself differently because "AtLeastIAdmitIt". Susan acknowledges the point but shuts down his justification by pointing out the majority of people do that sort of thing for good or otherwise benign reasons, like protecting a friend's feelings or keeping something private. Tom was just being selfish because he did everything he did ''knowing'' Susan wasn't looking to date anyone.

-->'''[[LargeHam Scrooge]]:''' Why in '''HEAVEN'S''' name would God bother with [[MisanthropeSupreme insignificant]] '''Man'''? Man is '''''rotten''''' to the core[[note]]A footnote indicates Rom 3:10-19[[/note]]! '''MAN''' is a '''''[[ChewingTheScenery BLIGHT]]''''' on the earth'''!'''\\

* ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW'': In issue 6, Sonic refuses to let Shadow [[spoiler:kill an amnesiac Eggman, insisting he's no threat and should be left alone until he is. Shadow counters that just because one loses their memory doesn't make them any less dangerous, speaking from his own experiences, and insists that Eggman is too much of a liability to keep alive lest he regain his memories. Shadow's ultimately proven right when Eggman does indeed regain his memory thanks to Metal Sonic and Starline and goes back to being evil, and he wastes no time blasting Sonic for not dealing with him when they had the chance, especially since it led to the Metal Virus outbreak]]. Come issue 23, [[spoiler:Sonic, nearing the DespairEventHorizon, ends up agreeing with Shadow that the entire mess is his fault, musing that he put his faith in the idea that everyone, even Eggman, has a little good in them, and [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished the entire planet is now paying the price]]. In the very next issue, Espio agrees with Shadow and snaps at Sonic that if they had just dealt with Eggman at Windmill Village before Starline got to him, none of this would be happening.]]

-->'''Monet:''' You showed up right after [[ComicBook/FantasticFour the FF]]. The obvious question is: What's Spider-Man's deal, that he's hiding behind a mask, when the FF is out in the open? You have total anonymity. Never having to take responsibility for anything.

** "The New Frontiersman" newspaper, which Rorschach is a big fan of, demonstrates some pretty disgusting tendencies in the articles we read and are generally portrayed as racist lunatics. For some idea, it claims that a rival paper comparing superhero vigilantes and the KKK is a ''good'' thing because the KKK were just defending their homes and heritage, it openly refers to said rival paper as "coked-out commie cowards", and its political cartoon has multiple racist caricatures. But the New Frontiersman is quite right that most of the official versions of events don't make sense and various suspicious disappearances have been buried in the news media. Its suggestion that Veidt is working on some kind of malicious conspiracy turns out to be true as well, and you can practically hear them connecting the dots in the article proper. It's just that they stumbled upon it not through a desire to uncover the truth, but because they wanted any evidence to suggest that Veidt was up to no good since he's a wealthy leftist and AmbiguouslyGay. [[spoiler:Rorschach sends them the diary containing his deduction that Ozymandias is the mastermind behind the conspiracy (not including what he and Nite Owl learned in Antarctica) but it's unclear whether they will publish it]].

* A Downplayed example from two perspectives in ''WesternAnimation/The3LittlePigsTheMovie'':

** Fowler despises Rocky when he first arrives and at one point warns Ginger not to trust that "yank" so easily. Needless to say, he was proven correct when [[spoiler:Ginger finds out that Rocky can't actually fly and was only a stunt cockerel.]]

** Ernesto recognizes that Miguel should be allowed to follow his heart and play music. He is also not wrong in saying that achieving your dreams sometimes means sacrifice and making difficult choices. [[spoiler:It was too bad he was referring to the time he murdered his best friend and stole their songs]].

* Throughout ''WesternAnimation/Sing2'' Buster and the rest of the Troupe are rudely dismissed by personel of Jimmy Crystal. His talent agent, Suki, states their act isn't good enough for Crystal, and when they try to audition to him personally, they are harshly refused entry by his secretary since they didn't reserve it. As it later turns out [[spoiler: Jimmy Crystal is a HairTriggerTemper BadBoss who is willing to ''murder'' anyone who disappoints him or wounds his pride, so his employees are quite justified not wanting anyone setting off his temper. Sure enough when Buster does finally get approved by Crystal and starts making decisions he isn't happy about, Suki drops the snobby act and tries to bail him out.]]

* ''WesternAnimation/UnicornWars'': Padre is against consuming the colorful insects the team finds in the forest because they're not kosher with the religion he promotes. While his objections were entirely theological, and Ironstroke's argument that using these critters for food would take a load off their limited supplies was sound, the bugs wind up having hallucinogenic properties once eaten, which indirectly lead to [[spoiler:the deaths of the Cuddly-Wuddly Twins.]]

*** Gene, leader of the Nicelanders who overall ''despises'' Ralph, [[spoiler:[[WhatTheHellHero calls him out for escaping a game during the arcade's operating hours just to get a medal]]. Yes, it was his fault for pushing him too far, but Ralph did not consider that the game would be declared Out-of-Order and put at risk of being unplugged, making everyone in his game homeless, so he's not entirely at fault.]]

* In NXT Dakota Kai turned Heel by brutally assaulting her friend Tegan Nox. Kai revealed she turned on Nox because she was mad that Nox didn't support her in joining Rhea Ripleys Wargames team and in general not having her back. While the vicious knee assault she gave Tegan was DisproportionateRetribution, Kai did have a legit reason to be angry with Nox.

* In the ''Radio/JohnFinnemoresDoubleActs'' episode "The Rebel Alliance", the UnseenCharacter Yvonne is absolutely terrible, and Lizzie is her most outspoken critic, especially regarding how she treats ExtremeDoormat Eileen. When she learns ''why'' Yvonne is upset with Eileen ([[spoiler:her husband refused to attend their daughter's wedding to Yvonne's daughter, and Eileen tried to say BothSidesHaveAPoint, even though she didn't agree with him at all]]), she says she can forgive Eileen for being a wimp, but she's not sure she can forgive her for making her think Yvonne might be right about something.

** Hiro Shiratake is, at his best, rather arrogant and abrasive, and at worst [[spoiler:has no qualms about callously dumping or cheating on his girlfriends when he gets tired of them.]] That said, while his telling a ghost story to passive-aggressively accuse his girlfriend Momoko Mori of being a ClingyJealousGirl is definitely not a nice thing to do, he's not wrong. Runa Hikari, who's otherwise a NiceGirl, agrees with him, since Momoko is an emotionally fragile person who'd be broken if Hiro and/or her best friend Kamen Eiga betrayed her. [[spoiler:When Momoko believes Hiro cheated on her with Kamen (in actuality, he tried to ask Kamen out but she said no), she kills him and herself in a MurderSuicide to frame Kamen.]]
** Taiko Kikai is usually a NiceGuy, but after [[spoiler:his best friend Kotoba Gaikoku is killed or badly burned]] as part of the killer's plan, he becomes overwhelmed with rage and falsely accuses [[spoiler:Kamen]] of being the murderer. While he's acting irrationally, and Raiko Shinpuku [[WhatTheHellHero calls him out on it]], Raiko admits that his suspecting [[spoiler:Kamen]](as well as [[spoiler:Runa]], to a lesser extent) is not entirely baseless, and that he has some valid points. In the good ending, [[spoiler:Taiko calms down, and while he argues against Raiko's points, does so out of a desire to help find the truth. After being convinced of Kamen's innocence, he apologizes to her.]]

*** And she manages a masterpiece of nearly-wordless point-proving when [[http://www.ma3comic.com/strips-ma3/fight-for-her/ Yuki needs convincing that Zii's obsession with [=DiDi=] has gone over the edge.]]

* ''Webcomic/NextSoundOfTheFuture'': Roll tells Shine that she shouldn't be an idol in her usual BrutallyHonest way, pointing out that she has no useful connections to any idols, is notoriously unlucky, and doesn't have any way to stand out from the hundreds of other Music/HatsuneMiku androids in the industry. Although Shine initially argues against her, she does agree with Roll's suggestion for her to try and get a famous Miku's contact information, and later confesses to Gumiya that she feels like Roll was probably right about her not being suited to being an idol.

* A text exchange which has appeared online;

** Zak Gramarye from ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' is makes one or two choices that are more or less indefensible, and yet his decision to fire [[spoiler: Kristoph Gavin]] for being untrustworthy was probably the best idea he ever had; if anything, cases 4-1 and 4-4 prove that his only real mistake was hiring [[spoiler: Gavin]] in the first place. [[spoiler: Gavin had been planning to use a forgery to get Zak off, but when he was fired he switched to using said forgery to ruin Phoenix's career for being Zak's choice for a replacement lawyer, and later killed Zak himself along with the man who got him the forgery, and he ''almost'' managed to kill the girl who created the forgery in the first place, who was ''twelve'' when Kristoph tried to poison her.]]

* South Dakota in ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlue'' is not the nicest person but she did bring up certain valid points at times.
** She feels that the class of learning about A.I. was fundamentally pointless for her seeing how she wasn't given any A.I. And it was later proven that South was deliberately withheld from getting an A.I., making her point even more valid.
** She also says it was unfair for Carolina to request for two A.I. after giving up her originally assigned A.I., especially to the agents who were due to get them next.

* ''Webcomic/{{Housepets}}'': Joel is portrayed as an obnoxious jerk who joined an AnimalWrongsGroup for hypocritical reasons (he actually dislikes animals, and secretly approaches the organisation's anti-pet agenda from the opposite direction). When he gets a ForcedTransformation into a corgi named King, he TakesALevelInKindness, but his ongoing insistence that there's something weird about the whole pet/owner dynamic is consistantly dismissed by other characters as a hangover from this. Unfortunately, this also includes his concerns about Daisy, whose owner is ''actually abusive''. Eventually, something gets done about this.

** ''JerkassHasAPoint/TotalDrama''

* ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' got pretty unpleasant Zulenna who habitually advocated Baron's dubious actions [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20040312 including]] imprisonment of "Othar Tryggvassen, [[AC:Gentleman Adventurer]]". Agatha and other students ignored this. The guy turned to be more or less as much heroic as he pretended to be... and [[HeroAntagonist a dangerous nutcase]] as a bonus. Zulenna generally has a point any time she is not posturing. However, it's also been pointed out in-strip that Othar's "Kill all the insane world-wrecking Sparks" master-plan is not entirely without its merits.

** In the second case of ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'', the killer has a grudge against Troupe Gramarye. While [[EvilerThanThou their methods make them much worse than those they hate]], they are right about the Gramaryes (besides Trucy) being jerkasses. He also points out that Trucy is an inferior magician due to being unable to see through his trick, something Trucy herself admits, although unbeknownst to him, [[spoiler:Apollo Justice, who's actually a Gramarye, saw through his trick and was able to expose him as a murderer.]]

*** She left Lilo at home alone accidentally -- Cobra doesn't know that Nani went to pick Lilo up from hula class, but Lilo decided to walk herself home and locked herself in -- left the stove on, and has been falling behind on household chores because she's too busy working to pay off all of the bills using her meager wages. Lilo also exhibits loads of TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior and has an AmbiguousDisorder that makes it difficult for her to interact with others. Even though it's obvious that Lilo isn't being abused in any way, he bluntly tells Nani that what’s going on isn’t an acceptable living environment for her sister.