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* On ''{{SpongeBob SquarePants}}'' fter the Flying Dutchman (the Bikini Bottom version of Satan) is ready to drag Mr. Krabs to Davy Jones' Locker for being greedy, Spongebob sticks up for his boss, wagering his own soul that Krabs is really generous. The Dutchman then offers Krabs a handful of pocket change in exchange for Spongebob's soul which Krabs accepts without hesitation. Krabs gloats over the money, while the Dutchman departs with the sponge, causing Squidward to go ballistic. Normally Spongebob's sworn enemy, Squidward yells to Krabs, "I can't believe I'm saying this but how could you?" Eventually Squidward's abuse makes Krabs see the light and he regrets his greedy ways.

* After the Flying Dutchman (the Bikini Bottom version of Satan) is ready to drag Mr. Krabs to Davy Jones' Locker for being greedy, Spongebob sticks up for his boss, wagering his own soul that Krabs is really generous. The Dutchman then offers Krabs a handful of pocket change in exchange for Spongebob's soul which Krabs accepts without hesitation. Krabs gloats over the money, while the Dutchman departs with the sponge, causing Squidward to go ballistic. Normally Spongebob's sworn enemy, Squidward yells to Krabs, "I can't believe I'm saying this but how could you?" Eventually Squidward's abuse makes Krabs see the light and he regrets his greedy ways.

* After the Flying Dutchman (the Bikini Bottom version of Satan) is ready to drag Mr. Krabs to Davy Jones' Locker for being greedy, Spongebob sticks up for his boss, wagering his own soul that Krabs is really generous. The Dutchman then offers Krabs a handful of pocket change in exchange for Spongebob's soul which Krabs accepts without hesitation. Gloating over the money, while the Dutchman departs with the sponge, Squidward goes ballistic. Normally Spongebob's sworn enemy, Squidward yells to Krabs, "I can't believe I'm saying this but how could you?" Eventually Squidward's abuse makes Krabs see the light and he regrets his greedy ways.

Our hero's behavior hasn't been so heroic lately. For one reason or another (MindControl, TheCorruption, or [[CosmicPlaything just a really bad week]]) their hostility has alienated the rest of the main cast. There's few things that can happen. Our hero may realize the consequences of his behavior on his own, go back to his friends and apologize. One of said friends may approach him for a heart-to-heart (or tongue lashing) to snap him out of his funk.

And then there's this. JerkassHasAPoint happens when a character who is typically rude, hostile or arrogant herself gives the hero the (somewhat hypocritical but nevertheless true) speech intended set him straight.

A rare outcome of the claim "We are NotSoDifferent". A response of "ShutUpHannibal" would be out of place, and is likely to get shot down if it appears. See also NotHimself and WhatTheHellHero for situations likely to inspire this. See DontShootTheMessage for what happens when this occurs in RealLife. {{Sister trope}} to DumbassHasAPoint in that normally no one heeds either.

* Horribly used in WeissKreuz. Reiji Takatori is the BigBad of the TV series, and by accounts a CompleteMonster who antagonises Weiss and their boss Persia [[spoiler: aka his brother Shuiichi]]. However, in a certain confrontation, he brings up a pretty valid point in regards to their subordinates (which in Reiji's case, are his ''own sons'' [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Hirofumi]] and [[MadScientist Masafumi]]), summed up as this: [[spoiler: "You tell ME I use my sons to my advantage?! Look at the way you treat your four subordinates, you hypocrite! Specially the little guy whom you thought he was my kid... and who happens to be YOUR illegitimate son!"]] And then [[spoiler: he kills Persia.]]

* [[DarkestPowers Tori Enright]], while not necessarily evil, is a self-proclaimed bitch who once made it her priority to make Chloe's life hell. While her first time attempting to give Chloe advice ends up in the two of them almost getting carved up by a trio of street thugs, when it seems that Chloe is having trouble with Simon and Derek and gets subsequently very depressed about it, Tori's pep talk ends up helping Chloe to realize just what's wrong with herself. Which in turn leads to her accepting the fact that the one she's liked all along is actually Derek and allows her to return to a mostly normal state.

** In season 3, the Mayor (while [[AffablyEvil anything but Jerkassy]], was definetly a vicious villain) provided frank and accurate advice on why Buffy and Angel's relationship was doomed to fail. While he was trying to kill the both of them. Nice guy.

* A [[WallBanger headache inducing]] example occurs in {{Scrubs}}. A teen is admitted to the hospital and [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Dr. Cox]] is assigned to treat her. When he learns that [[TooDumbToLive she willingly stopped taking the medicine she needs to survive]] he lays into her. The plot treats him as the bad guy, and the moral is that he should take other's feelings into consideration, but that is undermined severely by the fact that she stopped taking her medicine [[WhatAnIdiot to spite her parents]]

* Horribly used in WeissKreuz. Reiji Takatori is the BigBad of the TV series, and by accounts a CompleteMonster who antagonises Weiss and their boss Persia [[spoiler: aka his brother Shuiichi]]. However, in a certain confrontation, he brings up a pretty valid point in regards to their subordinates (which in Reiji's case, are his ''own sons'' [[CorrupCorporateExecutive Hirofumi]] and [[MadScientist Masafumi]]), summed up as this: [[spoiler: "You tell ME I use my sons to my advantage?! Look at the way you treat your four subordinates, you hypocrite! Specially the little guy whom you thought he was my kid... and who happens to be YOUR illegitimate son!"]] And then [[spoiler: he kills Persia.]]

* A [[WallBanger headache inducing]] example occurs in Scrubs. A teen is admitted to the hospital and [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk Dr. Cox]] is assigned to treat her. When he learns that [[TooDumbToLive she willingly stopped taking the medicine she needs to survive]] he lays into her. The plot treats him as the bad guy, and the moral is that he should take other's feelings into consideration, but that is undermined severely by the fact that she stopped taking her medicine [[WhatAnIdiot to spite her parents]]

* ''Glee'' is full of this and most of the Jerkass characters get one or more scenes where they get to tell one of the 'good' characters the plain truth and force them to address their problems.

* In one episode of ''TheSpectacularSpiderMan'', Peter, under the influence of the black spidey-suit, acts uncharacteristicaly abrasive to his friends. A speech from JerkJock Flash Thompson causes Peter to realize what a jerk he's been (his exact words: "OK, if ''Flash Thompson'' is making sense, something must be seriously wrong") and cast off the symbiote.

A rare outcome of the claim "We are NotSoDifferent". A response of "ShutUpHannibal" would be out of place, and is likely to get shot down if it appears. See also NotHimself and WhatTheHellHero for situations likely to inspire this. {{Sister trope}} to DumbassHasAPoint in that normally no one heeds either.

* Sue Sylvester from {{Glee}} tells Will that he shouldn't use demeaning hairography in the glee club's set list. Later, Will thanks her and as required willingly shows her the set list which she promptly leaks to the competing schools.

Our hero's behavior hasn't been so heroic lately. For one reason or another (MindControl, [[{{Spider-Man}} the black spider-suit]], or just a really bad week), his (or her) general hostility has alienated the rest of the main cast. There's few things that can happen. Our hero may realize the consequences of his behavior on his own, go back to his friends and apologize. One of said friends may approach him for a heart-to-heart (or tongue lashing) to snap him out of his funk.

* There's the ''{{Angel}}'' episode "Epiphany". Angel's alienated most of his friends, and the world is about to be destroyed. The Host, who up to that point was just an obstructive joke character, helped him get his life back together and save the world.

* In one episode of ''TheSpectacularSpiderMan'', Peter, under the influence of the black spidey-suit, acts uncharacteristicaly abrasive to his friends. A speech from JerkJock Flash Thompson causes Peter to realize what a jerk he's been (his exact words: "OK, if *Flash Thompson* is making sense, something must be seriously wrong") and cast off the symbiote.

* In the infamous AvatarTheLastAirbender webcomic HowIBecameYours, Mai hides letters from Katara to Zuko telling him that she's pregnant. When confronted by Zuko, she gives a reason that ''does'' make sense: [[http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/ReneeLuvsZutara/HIBY%20Chapter%201/028.jpg She wants to prevent a possible civil war coming from all the sucession problems that the existence of a bastard child of the Fire Lord would bring]]. (And not to mention, well, Zuko impregnated Katara ''[[YourCheatingHeart when he already was married to Mai]]''). However, since this is [[RonTheDeathEater Mai]] and she is [[PossessionSue Katara's]] [[DieForOurShip love rival for Zuko]], she's [[DerailingLoveInterests presented as a]] [[ClingyJealousGirl petty and clingy]] DesignatedVillain who does this only out of bitterness and jealousy... and we're supposed to side with ''Zuko'' [[DomesticAbuser when, in response to her rant, he humiliates and beats her]] [[DarthWiki/WallBanger before abandoning his war-torn nation to run away with his babymama.]]

* In the infamous AvatarTheLastAirbender webcomic HowIBecameYours, Mai hides letters from Katara to Zuko telling him that she's pregnant. When confronted by Zuko, she gives a reason that ''does'' make sense: [[http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/ReneeLuvsZutara/HIBY%20Chapter%201/028.jpg She wants to prevent a possible civil war coming from all the sucession problems that the existence of a bastard child of the Fire Lord would bring]]. (And not to mention, well, Zuko impregnated Katara ''[[YourCheatingHeart when he already was married to Mai]]''). However, since this is [[RonTheDeathEater Mai]] and she is [[PossessionSue Katara's]] [[DieForOurShip love rival for Zuko]], she's [[DerailingLoveInterests presented as a petty and clingy]] DesignatedVillain who does this only out of bitterness and jealousy... and we're supposed to side with ''Zuko'' [[DomesticAbuser when, in response to her rant, he humiliates and beats her]] [[DarthWiki/WallBanger before abandoning his nation to run away with his babymama.]]

* In the infamous AvatarTheLastAirbender webcomic HowIBecameYours, Mai hides letters from Katara to Zuko telling him that she's pregnant. When confronted by Zuko, she gives a reason that ''does'' make sense: [[http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/ReneeLuvsZutara/HIBY%20Chapter%201/028.jpg She wants to prevent a possible civil war coming from all the sucession problems that the existence of a bastard child of the Fire Lord would bring]]. (And not to mention, well, Zuko impregnated Katara ''[[YourCheatingHeart when he already was dating Mai]]''). However, since this is [[RonTheDeathEater Mai]] and she is [[PossessionSue Katara's]] [[DieForOurShip love rival for Zuko]], she's presented as a petty and clingy DesignatedVillain who does it more out of bitterness and jealousy... and we're supposed to side with ''Zuko'' [[DomesticAbuser when, in response to her rant, he humiliates and beats her]] [[WallBanger before abandoning his nation to run away with his babymama.]]

It's worth noting that TheLibby and the JerkJock, two of the main distributors of this trope, have a tendency toward bluntness. While our hero's friends may be hesitant to insult him, these characters don't really care what he thinks and are willing to say exactly what he's doing wrong, without sugarcoating their WhatTheHellHero.

* HesDedicatedToRoses: The leader of the GirlPosse give I-Da one of these after breaking her glasses. Subverted in that that wasn't what she had intended.

Our hero's behavior hasn't been so heroic lately. For one reason or another (MindControl, [[Spider-Man the black spider-suit]], or just a really bad week), his (or her) general hostility has alienated the rest of the main cast. There's few things that can happen. Our hero may realize the consequences of his behavior on his own, go back to his friends and apologize. One of said friends may approach him for a heart-to-heart (or tongue lashing) to snap him out of his funk.

Our hero's behavior hasn't been so heroic lately. For one reason or another (MindControl, [[SpiderMan the black spider-suit]], or just a really bad week), his (or her) general hostility has alienated the rest of the main cast. There's few things that can happen. Our hero may realize the consequences of his behavior on his own, go back to his friends and apologize. One of said friends may approach him for a heart-to-heart (or tongue lashing) to snap him out of his funk.

* Mai's justification for [[http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx265/ReneeLuvsZutara/HIBY%20Chapter%201/028.jpg keeping Zuko from learning about Katara's pregnancy]] in ''HowIBecameYours'' ''is'' actually pretty sound: there would be ''serious'' social and political problems in the still under heavy rebuilding Fire Nation if there was an illegitimate heir born from a mixed relationship between the Fire Lord and a Waterbender woman. But '''of course''', [[DesignatedVillain we're supposed to think of her as a villain for it]] and cheer on Zuko when he [[DomesticAbuser beats her up and humiliates her]] [[WallBanger and abandons said war-torn nation to run off with Katara.]]

-> --'''The Witch, "The Last Midnight", ''IntoTheWoods'''''

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* In volume 4 of ''{{Empowered}}'', the protagonist is overjoyed to be running for the Caped Justice Awards, until Sistah Spooky informs her that the award is a setup used to publicly humiliate the receiver and that she should watch out. Given that Sistah Spooky has been nothing but antagonistic from day one (not to mention [[BrokenPedestal breaking her own pedestal]], since Empowered ''was'' a big fan of hers until they met), she assumes Sistah is just raining on her parade. [[spoiler: She's not.]]

* In {{The Wire}}, William Rawls is a complete asshole that openly hates protagonist Jimmy McNulty. [[spoiler: But, when McNulty's partner is shot, Rawls makes it a point to tell Jimmy that the shooting wasn't his fault.]]

* Subverted in [[{{ptitlefiwg8rim}} 13]] when Lucy tells Kendra she should thank Evan for getting Kendra and Brett back together [[spoiler: But really. [[{{The Chessmaster}} Lucy set the whole thing up]] so that she could be with Brett. It's a case of ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.]]

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