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11th Jan '18 6:01:11 AM snichols1973
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* The long-running (fake) feud between [[Radio/TheJackBennyProgram Jack Benny]] and FredAllen ([[StageNames born]] Benjamin Kubelsky and John F. Sullivan, respectively) was one of these. Like most such instances, outright ethnic jokes were rare, unless one counts the constant references to Benny's [[AllJewsAreCheapskates skinflint nature]]. Fred Allen's radio show also provided some examples; characters in "Allen's Alley" included Russian-Jewish houswife Pansy Nussbaum and Irish immigrant Ajax Cassidy.

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* The long-running (fake) feud between [[Radio/TheJackBennyProgram Jack Benny]] and FredAllen Fred Allen ([[StageNames born]] Benjamin Kubelsky and John F. Sullivan, respectively) was one of these. Like most such instances, outright ethnic jokes were rare, unless one counts the constant references to Benny's [[AllJewsAreCheapskates skinflint nature]]. Fred Allen's radio show also provided some examples; characters in "Allen's Alley" included Russian-Jewish houswife Pansy Nussbaum and Irish immigrant Ajax Cassidy.


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** The movie version features the Jewish Creator/GeneWilder and Creator/MartyFeldman as Dr. Frankenstein (pronounced "Fronk-en-steen") and Igor, with Irish-American Creator/PeterBoyle as the Monster.


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* The 1960's comedy team of Jack Burns and Avery Schreiber, who started out in the Chicago-based The Second City comedy troupe with a notable routine of Burns as a talkative taxicab passenger and Schreiber as the driver, and they co-hosted the Burns and Schreiber Comedy Hour of 1973, with Burns working in animated sequences and writing for the first seasons of ''Series/HeeHaw'' and ''Series/TheMuppetShow'', while Schreiber would be a recurring guest star on ''Series/ChicoAndTheMan'' and a semi-regular panelist on ''Series/MatchGame'', a series of commercials for Doritos corn chips during the 1970's, and bit parts in ''Creator/MelBrooks'''s 1990's comedy films ''RobinHoodMenInTights'' and ''DraculaDeadAndLovingIt''.
10th Jan '18 7:53:01 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* Jim and Michelle in the ''Film/AmericanPie'' movies. (Jim is a nerdy, repressed Jew, while the stereotypically red-haired Michelle is equally nerdy but outspoken and bawdy.)

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* Jim and Michelle in the ''Film/AmericanPie'' movies. (Jim Jim is a nerdy, repressed Jew, while the stereotypically red-haired Michelle is equally nerdy but outspoken and bawdy.)bawdy. Ironically, this is reversed with their actors. Jason Biggs is of mostly Italian descent and was raised in a Catholic household, while Creator/AlysonHannigan is half-Jewish on her mother's side (though also half-Irish on her father's).
8th Jan '18 5:46:19 AM Cryoclaste
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* Geddy Lee of {{Rush}} has Jewish roots while Neil Peart has Irish. (Alex Lifeson has Serbian roots, making him a Slav.)

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* Geddy Lee of {{Rush}} Music/{{Rush}} has Jewish roots while Neil Peart has Irish. (Alex Lifeson has Serbian roots, making him a Slav.)
6th Jan '18 8:24:42 PM nombretomado
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* A late 1960s/early 1970s British sitcom, ''Never Mind The Quality, Feel the Width'', used a fictional variant of this trope, with two tailors; one Irish and one Jewish, going into business together. A Rabbi and a Catholic priest were among the supporting cast. Wiki/TheOtherWiki mentions the series was not shown on all parts of the {{ITV}} network, but it was transmitted in UsefulNotes/NorthernIreland.

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* A late 1960s/early 1970s British sitcom, ''Never Mind The Quality, Feel the Width'', used a fictional variant of this trope, with two tailors; one Irish and one Jewish, going into business together. A Rabbi and a Catholic priest were among the supporting cast. Wiki/TheOtherWiki mentions the series was not shown on all parts of the {{ITV}} Creator/{{ITV}} network, but it was transmitted in UsefulNotes/NorthernIreland.
6th Jan '18 5:34:25 PM nombretomado
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* The great JamesCagney [[http://www.mahnishmah.com/system/scripts/modules/admin/pages/show_page.cgi?p=13241 got a lot of laughs]] in the 1932 film ''Taxi'' by launching into [[YiddishAsASecondLanguage fluent Yiddish]] in the presence of an [[OfficerOHara Irish cop]]; Cagney (an Irish-American) had learned the language in school and on the streets of New York.

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* The great JamesCagney Creator/JamesCagney [[http://www.mahnishmah.com/system/scripts/modules/admin/pages/show_page.cgi?p=13241 got a lot of laughs]] in the 1932 film ''Taxi'' by launching into [[YiddishAsASecondLanguage fluent Yiddish]] in the presence of an [[OfficerOHara Irish cop]]; Cagney (an Irish-American) had learned the language in school and on the streets of New York.
6th Jan '18 10:44:47 AM nombretomado
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Simply put, it refers to any situation in which there is extensive collaboration or pairing between an [[UsefulNotes/{{Ireland}} Irishman]] or [[TheIrishDiaspora Irish-American]] (the latter is ''much'' more common) and a [[UsefulNotes/{{Judaism}} Jewish]] person. This can apply either to an onscreen pairing of two fictional characters or to a [[ShowBusiness behind-the-scenes]] collaboration in RealLife. Interestingly, the latter seems to be ''far'' more common, and the full OddCouple potential of this trope is rarely exploited, probably ''because'' the ethnicities are those of the performers themselves, and not so important to the characters they play.

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Simply put, it refers to any situation in which there is extensive collaboration or pairing between an [[UsefulNotes/{{Ireland}} Irishman]] or [[TheIrishDiaspora [[UsefulNotes/TheIrishDiaspora Irish-American]] (the latter is ''much'' more common) and a [[UsefulNotes/{{Judaism}} Jewish]] person. This can apply either to an onscreen pairing of two fictional characters or to a [[ShowBusiness behind-the-scenes]] collaboration in RealLife. Interestingly, the latter seems to be ''far'' more common, and the full OddCouple potential of this trope is rarely exploited, probably ''because'' the ethnicities are those of the performers themselves, and not so important to the characters they play.
8th Dec '17 7:41:15 AM Prfnoff
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* The two antagonists in Harold Pinter's "The Birthday Party" are a stereotypical pair of sinister gentlemen named [=McCann=] and Goldberg, who make a point of invoking their ethnic origins in their dialogue. Pinter himself was Jewish.

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* The two antagonists in Harold Pinter's "The Birthday Party" ''Theatre/TheBirthdayParty'' are a stereotypical pair of sinister gentlemen named [=McCann=] and Goldberg, who make a point of invoking their ethnic origins in their dialogue. Pinter himself was Jewish.
6th Aug '17 2:03:22 PM mhnospa
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* ''Lanigan's Rabbi'': One's a cop called Lanigan. The other's a rabbi. They fight crime!
1st Jul '17 4:46:47 PM nombretomado
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* A late 1960s/early 1970s British sitcom, ''Never Mind The Quality, Feel the Width'', used a fictional variant of this trope, with two tailors; one Irish and one Jewish, going into business together. A Rabbi and a Catholic priest were among the supporting cast. TheOtherWiki mentions the series was not shown on all parts of the {{ITV}} network, but it was transmitted in UsefulNotes/NorthernIreland.

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* A late 1960s/early 1970s British sitcom, ''Never Mind The Quality, Feel the Width'', used a fictional variant of this trope, with two tailors; one Irish and one Jewish, going into business together. A Rabbi and a Catholic priest were among the supporting cast. TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki mentions the series was not shown on all parts of the {{ITV}} network, but it was transmitted in UsefulNotes/NorthernIreland.
15th Jun '17 6:25:24 PM Anddrix
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It is hard to generalize, but the Irish character will probably be [[LargeHam bolder]] and more [[TheAce self-assured]], but also more [[TooDumbToLive naive]] and possibly [[KnowNothingKnowItAll ignorant]]; the Jewish character is more likely to be a bit nervous and [[LovableCoward unresisting]], but probably [[TheSmartGuy smarter]] and [[GenreSavvy more aware]] of how [[CrapsackWorld the world actually works]], as well as willing to [[DeadpanSnarker say exactly what he thinks of it]]. In a way, this could be an oblique allusion to BrainsAndBrawn, or BullyAndWimpPairing, but it's usually much more subtle (if it is noticeable at all).

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It is hard to generalize, but the Irish character will probably be [[LargeHam bolder]] and more [[TheAce self-assured]], but also more [[TooDumbToLive naive]] and possibly [[KnowNothingKnowItAll ignorant]]; the Jewish character is more likely to be a bit nervous and [[LovableCoward unresisting]], but probably [[TheSmartGuy smarter]] and [[GenreSavvy more aware]] aware of how [[CrapsackWorld the world actually works]], as well as willing to [[DeadpanSnarker say exactly what he thinks of it]]. In a way, this could be an oblique allusion to BrainsAndBrawn, or BullyAndWimpPairing, but it's usually much more subtle (if it is noticeable at all).
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