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6th Aug '17 2:03:22 PM mhnospa
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* ''Lanigan's Rabbi'': One's a cop called Lanigan. The other's a rabbi. They fight crime!
1st Jul '17 4:46:47 PM nombretomado
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* A late 1960s/early 1970s British sitcom, ''Never Mind The Quality, Feel the Width'', used a fictional variant of this trope, with two tailors; one Irish and one Jewish, going into business together. A Rabbi and a Catholic priest were among the supporting cast. TheOtherWiki mentions the series was not shown on all parts of the {{ITV}} network, but it was transmitted in UsefulNotes/NorthernIreland.

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* A late 1960s/early 1970s British sitcom, ''Never Mind The Quality, Feel the Width'', used a fictional variant of this trope, with two tailors; one Irish and one Jewish, going into business together. A Rabbi and a Catholic priest were among the supporting cast. TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki mentions the series was not shown on all parts of the {{ITV}} network, but it was transmitted in UsefulNotes/NorthernIreland.
15th Jun '17 6:25:24 PM Anddrix
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It is hard to generalize, but the Irish character will probably be [[LargeHam bolder]] and more [[TheAce self-assured]], but also more [[TooDumbToLive naive]] and possibly [[KnowNothingKnowItAll ignorant]]; the Jewish character is more likely to be a bit nervous and [[LovableCoward unresisting]], but probably [[TheSmartGuy smarter]] and [[GenreSavvy more aware]] of how [[CrapsackWorld the world actually works]], as well as willing to [[DeadpanSnarker say exactly what he thinks of it]]. In a way, this could be an oblique allusion to BrainsAndBrawn, or BullyAndWimpPairing, but it's usually much more subtle (if it is noticeable at all).

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It is hard to generalize, but the Irish character will probably be [[LargeHam bolder]] and more [[TheAce self-assured]], but also more [[TooDumbToLive naive]] and possibly [[KnowNothingKnowItAll ignorant]]; the Jewish character is more likely to be a bit nervous and [[LovableCoward unresisting]], but probably [[TheSmartGuy smarter]] and [[GenreSavvy more aware]] aware of how [[CrapsackWorld the world actually works]], as well as willing to [[DeadpanSnarker say exactly what he thinks of it]]. In a way, this could be an oblique allusion to BrainsAndBrawn, or BullyAndWimpPairing, but it's usually much more subtle (if it is noticeable at all).
27th May '17 8:59:56 AM therandomsciencegirl
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* In ''Series/{{Grace and Frankie}}'', Grace's family (Irish Catholic) and Frankie's family (Jewish) both exploit and invert this trope in their {{Odd Couple}} interactions. The Hanson's are more socially conservative as would be expected, but they are also more cutting in their humor than the Bergstein's--who come off as [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth painfully sweet]].
6th May '17 1:16:35 AM Golondrina
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* In ''VenusEnvy'', Zoëís father is Jewish, while her mother is Irish.

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* In ''VenusEnvy'', ''Webcomic/VenusEnvy'', Zoëís father is Jewish, while her mother is Irish.
2nd May '17 12:43:52 PM Rossum
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*Literature/TheSpyWhoLovedMe has a non comic example with the villains Sol 'Horror' Horowtiz and Sluggsy Morant.
28th Apr '17 9:41:10 PM Luppercus
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* Probably one of the few female examples: Fran Fine and Val Torelli in ''Series/TheNanny'' with Fran as Jewish and Val as Catholic and both each others best friend.

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* Probably one of the few female examples: Fran Fine and Val Torelli in ''Series/TheNanny'' with Fran as Jewish and Val as Catholic and both each others best friend.
28th Apr '17 9:38:47 PM Luppercus
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* Probably one of the few female examples: Fran Fine and Val Torelli in ''Series/TheNanny'' with Fran as Jewish and Val as Catholic and both each others best friend.
16th Apr '17 9:00:22 PM nombretomado
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* MTV's early 90's sketch show ''TheState'' featured a musical sketch entitled "The Jew, The Italian, and the Redheaded Gay," which exploded into a loud, Vaudeville-type production.

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* MTV's early 90's sketch show ''TheState'' ''Series/TheState'' featured a musical sketch entitled "The Jew, The Italian, and the Redheaded Gay," which exploded into a loud, Vaudeville-type production.
19th Mar '17 8:51:28 AM Noah1
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* Critic Frank Lovece [[http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/futurama-finds-a-new-future-on-comedy-central-1.1402526 compared]] sister shows ''TheSimpsons'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' to the distinct strains of Irish-American and Jewish Vaudeville comedy. According to Lovece, ''The Simpsons'', with its emphasis on family ties and its boorish-but-endearing protagonist, is rooted in the Irish-flavored comedy of Harrigan & Hart and George M. Cohan. ''Futurama'', he argued, was rooted in BorschtBelt-style exasperation at a world gone crazy.
** Not that ''TheSimpsons'' doesn't have more than a few AmbiguouslyJewish and InformedJudaism characters, most famously Krusty the Clown (born "Herschel Krustofski"), whose basic personality is that of a burnt-out, exasperated, Borscht-Belt-flavored middle-aged man who's constantly ''[[JewishComplaining kvetching]]'' and making sarcastic comments with Ashkenazi speech patterns such as "This, I don't need!"
** ''TheSimpsons'' also makes a [[DiscussedTrope reference]] to this in "Treehouse of Horror III," in which Mr. Burns announces that King Homer's Broadway show will consist of him standing around for three hours, "followed by the ethnic comedy of Duggan and Dershowitz!"

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** Early on, Brian could be considered the "Jew" character, despite being {{Atheist}} -- he's witty, cynical, reads ''Magazine/TheNewYorker'', and often acted as the eye-rolling StraightMan to Peter's {{Zany Scheme}}s.
* Critic Frank Lovece [[http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/tv/futurama-finds-a-new-future-on-comedy-central-1.1402526 compared]] sister shows ''TheSimpsons'' ''WesternAnimaton/TheSimpsons'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' to the distinct strains of Irish-American and Jewish Vaudeville comedy. According to Lovece, ''The Simpsons'', with its emphasis on family ties and its boorish-but-endearing protagonist, is rooted in the Irish-flavored comedy of Harrigan & Hart and George M. Cohan. ''Futurama'', he argued, was rooted in BorschtBelt-style exasperation at a world gone crazy.
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** Not that ''TheSimpsons'' doesn't have more than a few AmbiguouslyJewish and InformedJudaism characters, most famously Krusty the Clown (born "Herschel Krustofski"), whose basic personality is that of a burnt-out, exasperated, Borscht-Belt-flavored BorschtBelt-flavored middle-aged man who's constantly ''[[JewishComplaining kvetching]]'' and making sarcastic comments with Ashkenazi speech patterns such as "This, I don't need!"
** ''TheSimpsons'' also makes a [[DiscussedTrope reference]] to this in "Treehouse of Horror "WesternAnimation/TreehouseOfHorror III," in which Mr. Burns announces that King Homer's Broadway show will consist of him standing around for three hours, "followed by the ethnic comedy of Duggan and Dershowitz!"



** With regards to ''Futurama'': the main character Phillip J. Fry is a good-natured [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensch mensch]] who immigrated to the show's setting (although with a science fiction twist: he immigrated [[HumanPopsicle through time]] rather than space), and the story's generally about his experiences in the very strange world of the year 3000. [[TheChewToy Zoidberg]] and the other Decapodians, on the other hand, are out-and-out space versions of BorschtBelt gags, complete with strong Eastern European Jewish accents. Ironically, they're basically sapient crustaceans, which are not kosher.

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** With regards to ''Futurama'': the main character Phillip J. Fry is a good-natured [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensch mensch]] who immigrated to the show's setting (although with a science fiction ScienceFiction twist: he immigrated [[HumanPopsicle through time]] rather than space), and the story's generally about his experiences in the very strange world of the year 3000. [[TheChewToy Zoidberg]] and the other Decapodians, on the other hand, are out-and-out space versions of BorschtBelt gags, complete with strong Eastern European Jewish accents. Ironically, they're basically sapient crustaceans, which are not kosher.
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