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27th Jun '16 5:06:09 PM Hydrosoul
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Named for the obvious StarWars connection, in which the mooks all seem to be visually impaired, which is odd, considering that canon states that they were all clones of Jengo Fett, Boba Fett's father, which you would think would put them at some kind of genetic advantage is such situations.

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Named for the obvious StarWars connection, in which the mooks all seem to be visually impaired, which is odd, considering that canon states that they were all clones of Jengo Fett, Boba Fett's father, which you would think would put them at some kind of genetic advantage is such situations.
situations. Although there is one [[http://imgur.com/gallery/xgnot explanation]] for their seemingly inept abilities.
23rd Jun '16 11:15:16 AM MarkWilder
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Named for the obvious StarWars connection, in which the mooks all seem to be visually impaired, which is odd, considering that canon states that they were all clones of Jengo Fett, Boba Fett's father, which you would think would put them at some kind of genetic advantage is such situations. Thankfully, this was changed in Film/TheForceAwakens, in which the Storm Troopers are actually competent.

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Named for the obvious StarWars connection, in which the mooks all seem to be visually impaired, which is odd, considering that canon states that they were all clones of Jengo Fett, Boba Fett's father, which you would think would put them at some kind of genetic advantage is such situations. Thankfully, this was changed in Film/TheForceAwakens, in which the Storm Troopers are actually competent.
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17th Jun '16 2:05:26 PM merotoker
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** From the second ''Naruto Shippuuden'' movie, the ninja of the Sky Country have gatling guns that fire kunai. Apparently they're a deadly force, but they just seem to land by peoples' feet more often than not. One of them almost hits Shizune's foot as it just barely misses Tsunade, but she just has to stand there. Then Sai fights several of them in the air and just stands atop his giant bird thinking to himself while a volley of kunai fly over his head. But then, perhaps this also involves the InverseNinjaLaw.

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** From the second ''Naruto Shippuuden'' movie, the ninja of the Sky Country have gatling guns that fire kunai. Apparently they're a deadly force, but they just seem to land by peoples' feet more often than not. One of them almost hits Shizune's foot as it just barely misses Tsunade, but she just has to stand there. Then Sai fights several of them in the air and just stands atop his giant bird thinking to himself while a volley of kunai fly over his head. But then, perhaps this also involves the InverseNinjaLaw.ConservationOfNinjutsu.



** Averted in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' as the First Order's Stormtroopers are shown to be much better shots than their Imperial counterparts (except against main characters of course). And for his part, ex-Stormtrooper Finn is actually a pretty good shot, though he was explicitly mentioned as having placed very highly in training, and it might just be a RedemptionPromotion.

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** Averted in ''Film/TheForceAwakens'' as the First Order's Stormtroopers are shown to be much better shots than their Imperial counterparts (except ([[PlotArmor except against main characters of course).course]]). And for his part, ex-Stormtrooper Finn is actually a pretty good shot, though he was explicitly mentioned as having placed very highly in training, and it might just be a RedemptionPromotion.



* Parodied (along with a lot of other ''Star Wars'' tropes) in the movie ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}''. During the "escape from prison" sequence, the only shot of the evil stormtroopers which hits true is one which just barely singes Princess Vespa's hair. This [[BerserkButton launches her]] into an UnstoppableRage in which she guns down all of the enemy stormtroopers, Rambo-style. Also spoofed earlier in the movie when "Gunner's Mate First Class Phillip Asshole" is asked to fire across the nose of a princess Vespa's ship, and almost hits her. When told "I said across her nose, not up it!", it is revealed that the gunner is cross-eyed. As is the rest of his family (most of which are on the crew), prompting this quote:

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* Parodied (along with a lot of other ''Star Wars'' tropes) in the movie ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}''. During the "escape from prison" sequence, the only shot of the evil stormtroopers which hits true is one which just barely singes Princess Vespa's hair. This [[BerserkButton launches her]] into an UnstoppableRage in which she guns down all of the enemy stormtroopers, Rambo-style. Also spoofed earlier in the movie when "Gunner's Mate First Class Phillip Asshole" is asked to fire across the nose of a princess Vespa's ship, and almost hits her. When told "I said across her nose, not up it!", it is revealed that the gunner is cross-eyed. As is the rest of his family (most of which are on the crew), prompting this quote:



* The enemies in the Arnold Schwarzenegger AffectionateParody movie ''Film/TrueLies'' fit this trope perfectly. Even when using submachineguns at close range they cannot hit the hero, ([[ImprobableAimingSkills while the hero manages to take them out with a pistol]]). At one point, the guards jump through the air, on skis, ATeamFiring, and hit ''nothing''. Meanwhile, Arnold's character is able to roll backwards through the snow and fire perfectly aimed shots before hitting the ground. His wife fares even better, managing to kill a dozen enemies simply by dropping her [[ShurFineGuns Mac 10]] down a staircase. There's also the part where Gib uses a ''light pole'' as cover while standing straight up, à la ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'', and the BigBad standing several feet away doesn't hit him, even though he empties a submachine gun clip at him.

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* The enemies in the Arnold Schwarzenegger AffectionateParody movie ''Film/TrueLies'' fit this trope perfectly. Even when using submachineguns at close range they cannot hit the hero, ([[ImprobableAimingSkills while the hero manages to take them out with a pistol]]). At one point, the guards jump through the air, on skis, ATeamFiring, and hit ''nothing''. Meanwhile, Arnold's character is able to roll backwards through the snow and fire perfectly aimed shots before hitting the ground. His wife fares even better, managing to kill a dozen enemies simply by dropping her [[ShurFineGuns [[ReliablyUnreliableGuns Mac 10]] down a staircase. There's also the part where Gib uses a ''light pole'' as cover while standing straight up, à la ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'', and the BigBad standing several feet away doesn't hit him, even though he empties a submachine gun clip at him.



* Parodied nicely by ''Film/DieHard2: Die Harder'', where there's a massive fire fight outside a church between good guys and bad guys where nobody gets hurt despite the enormous amount of gunpowder being discharged. The fact is [[spoiler:they were all shooting with blanks, since they were all bad guys.]]

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* Parodied nicely by ''Film/DieHard2: Die Harder'', where there's a massive fire fight outside a church between good guys and bad guys where nobody gets hurt despite the enormous amount of gunpowder being discharged. The fact is [[spoiler:they were all shooting with blanks, since they were all bad guys.]]guys]].



** Somewhat less justified in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', when four main characters go up against an entire squad of Klingon warriors. The Klingons don't get a single hit in. At most, they might have managed to kill the two RedShirts that accompanied Kirk's team, but [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse even that isn't clear]]. They fare a little better when they switch to melee weapons, but that doesn't stop Khan from [[OneManArmy slaughtering them all singlehandedly]].

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** Somewhat less justified in ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'', when four main characters go up against an entire squad of Klingon warriors. The Klingons don't get a single hit in. At most, they might have managed to kill the two RedShirts {{Red Shirt}}s that accompanied Kirk's team, but [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse even that isn't clear]]. They fare a little better when they switch to melee weapons, but that doesn't stop Khan from [[OneManArmy slaughtering them all singlehandedly]].



* Everyone who tries to shoot at Film/TheBluesBrothers. Especially Carrie Fisher's Mystery Woman. In fact, the character with the best aim (although an example of ATeamFiring) was Ray Charles...
* ''Film/BeverlyHillsCop'' and [[Film/BeverlyHillsCopII its sequel]] both play this absolutely straight during the films' respective final shootouts. In both cases, the bad guys have a dozen or more machinegun-equipped goons who are completely incapable of hitting the pistol-armed heroes. It even rubs off onto the goodguys in the first film, although it's at least justifiable in this case by the Beverly Hills police using service revolvers far beyond their effective range.

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* Everyone who tries to shoot at Film/TheBluesBrothers. Especially Carrie Fisher's Creator/CarrieFisher's Mystery Woman. In fact, the character with the best aim (although an example of ATeamFiring) was Ray Charles...
* ''Film/BeverlyHillsCop'' and [[Film/BeverlyHillsCopII its sequel]] both play this absolutely straight during the films' respective final shootouts. In both cases, the bad guys have a dozen or more machinegun-equipped goons who are completely incapable of hitting the pistol-armed heroes. It even rubs off onto the goodguys good guys in the first film, although it's at least justifiable in this case by the Beverly Hills police using service revolvers far beyond their effective range.



* A particularly egregious example is Jet Li's ''Film/DannyTheDog'', during [[spoiler:Raffles' ambush of Bart]]. Three men armed with military-grade assault rifles empty them at a stricken car with four helpless men inside that's ''maybe'' fifteen feet away. The result? [[OnlyAFleshWound Flesh wounds]]. And do they bother administering a CoupDeGrace, or do they just run as soon as their guns click empty? Three guesses, first two don't count...

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* A particularly egregious example is Jet Li's Creator/JetLi's ''Film/DannyTheDog'', during [[spoiler:Raffles' ambush of Bart]]. Three men armed with military-grade assault rifles empty them at a stricken car with four helpless men inside that's ''maybe'' fifteen feet away. The result? [[OnlyAFleshWound Flesh wounds]]. And do they bother administering a CoupDeGrace, or do they just run as soon as their guns click empty? Three guesses, first two don't count...



* Played with in ''{{Film/ThePatriot}}'', where the militiamen led by Benjamin Martin effortlessly cut down several companies of British regulars with precision aim, yet the regulars in question often fail to deal significant casualties in turn to the rebels. In one scene, Ben and his two youngest sons are able to wipe out an entire supply column all by themselves in their bid to save Gabriel; Colonel Tavington and his royal dragoons don't show half as much difficulty in combating their American foes.

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* Played with in ''{{Film/ThePatriot}}'', ''Film/ThePatriot'', where the militiamen led by Benjamin Martin effortlessly cut down several companies of British regulars with precision aim, yet the regulars in question often fail to deal significant casualties in turn to the rebels. In one scene, Ben and his two youngest sons are able to wipe out an entire supply column all by themselves in their bid to save Gabriel; Colonel Tavington and his royal dragoons don't show half as much difficulty in combating their American foes.



* Justified in ''Series/{{Castle}}'', when Castle and Beckett test out antique flintlock pistols allegedly used as a murder weapon. They each take one, go out to the firing range, and miss. There's even a montage just showing dozens of impacts on the padded area behind the paper targets. The justification is that flintlock pistols were often inaccurate, and the ones used were worse than most. Not only that, the cop right next to Castle goes to help him after all Castle's shots kept messing with his own target practice. This goes from the cop giving Castle stable platforms to shoot from, to strapping a scope and a laser pointer on the pistol, taping it down zeroed on the center of the target and pulling the trigger with a string. Still misses, with the only hit being to the target ''next'' to the one aimed for. [[spoiler:This is all used to prove that the weapon was highly unlikely to have been the murder weapon. In fact, the two guys specifically dueled with them in order to "satisfy their honor" without anyone actually being harmed. The real culprit is someone using a modern smoothbore weapon with an old-fashioned steel ball]].

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* Justified in ''Series/{{Castle}}'', when Castle and Beckett test out antique flintlock pistols allegedly used as a murder weapon. They each take one, go out to the firing range, and miss. There's even a montage just showing dozens of impacts on the padded area behind the paper targets. The justification is that flintlock pistols were often inaccurate, and the ones used were worse than most. Not only that, the cop right next to Castle goes to help him after all Castle's shots kept messing with his own target practice. This goes from the cop giving Castle stable platforms to shoot from, to strapping a scope and a laser pointer on the pistol, taping it down zeroed on the center of the target and pulling the trigger with a string. Still misses, with the only hit being to the target ''next'' to the one aimed for. [[spoiler:This is all used to prove that the weapon was highly unlikely to have been the murder weapon. In fact, the two guys specifically dueled with them in order to "satisfy their honor" without anyone actually being harmed. The real culprit is someone using a modern smoothbore weapon with an old-fashioned steel ball]].ball.]]



* In the DVD commentary for the last episode of season 4 of ''Series/BurnNotice'', Matt Nix and several of the actors were [[MSTing sporking]] the entire episode, and anytime Michael was being shot at, they would joke that Vaughn's men were only able to hit their target when they were aiming at tires. Considering the number of times a [[InformedAbility special forces sniper]] missed Michael, they weren't too far off.

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* In the DVD commentary for the last episode of season 4 of ''Series/BurnNotice'', Matt Nix and several of the actors were [[MSTing [[{{MST}} sporking]] the entire episode, and anytime Michael was being shot at, they would joke that Vaughn's men were only able to hit their target when they were aiming at tires. Considering the number of times a [[InformedAbility special forces sniper]] missed Michael, they weren't too far off.



* In ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'', all {{Mook}}s throughout the ages appear to be graduates of the academy, as their aim is notoriously bad. The flying 22nd century robots must also have downloaded all the relevant coursework, the first chapter is, of course, "How to Always Miss When Shooting at Heroes".

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* In ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'', all {{Mook}}s {{Mooks}} throughout the ages appear to be graduates of the academy, as their aim is notoriously bad. The flying 22nd century robots must also have downloaded all the relevant coursework, the first chapter is, of course, "How to Always Miss When Shooting at Heroes".



* With the sole exeption of Inspector Fox, all ranged enemies in ''Franchise/SlyCooper'' games avert this. Even the ones who throw rocks. Given that the Inspector is perfectly capable of shooting straight when she's playable, one explanation is that [[FoeYay she's so incensed by Sly's presence]] that her aim goes to pot.

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* With the sole exeption exception of Inspector Fox, all ranged enemies in ''Franchise/SlyCooper'' games avert this. Even the ones who throw rocks. Given that the Inspector is perfectly capable of shooting straight when she's playable, one explanation is that [[FoeYay she's so incensed by Sly's presence]] that her aim goes to pot.



* Inverted in ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' during Story Mode, wherein [[spoiler:Bane]] is ''too'' accurate when shooting at [[spoiler:Wonder Woman, given that he keeps shooting at her indestructible bracers, rather than shifting his aim to anywhere else on her person.]]

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* Inverted in ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' during Story Mode, wherein [[spoiler:Bane]] is ''too'' accurate when shooting at [[spoiler:Wonder Woman, given that he keeps shooting at her indestructible bracers, rather than shifting his aim to anywhere else on her person.]]person]].



* Taken UpToEleven in the ''WebVideo/CinemaSins'' review of ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'': The reviewer claims that the guards at the Kyln[[note]]a space prison[[/note]] are such terrible shots that ''even Stormtroopers'' are laughing at them for it.
** In the review to Film/ANewHope, during the scene where Luke's home is found in ruins [[FrameUp and made to look like the Sand People did it]], Obi-Wan notes that the blast markings on the Sandcrawler are too accurate for them and that only Stormtroopers are that precise. The reviewer simply laughs for a few seconds before adding a sin.

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* ''WebVideo/CinemaSins''
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Taken UpToEleven in the ''WebVideo/CinemaSins'' review of ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'': ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' review: The reviewer claims that the guards at the Kyln[[note]]a space prison[[/note]] are such terrible shots that ''even Stormtroopers'' are laughing at them for it.
** In the review to Film/ANewHope, of ''Film/ANewHope'', during the scene where Luke's home is found in ruins [[FrameUp and made to look like the Sand People did it]], Obi-Wan notes that the blast markings on the Sandcrawler are too accurate for them and that only Stormtroopers are that precise. The reviewer simply laughs for a few seconds before adding a sin.



* Lampshaded in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' where three [[TriadsAndTongs Chinese Mafia]] members fail to hit Stan. One remarks on how unlikely it is that they'd all miss, and another says that not killing people is his New Year's Resolution.

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* Lampshaded in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' where three [[TriadsAndTongs [[TheTriadsAndTheTongs Chinese Mafia]] members fail to hit Stan. One remarks on how unlikely it is that they'd all miss, and another says that not killing people is his New Year's Resolution.



* In the WesternAnimation/{{Classic Disney Short|s}} ''Commando Duck'', several [[WartimeCartoon Japanese soldiers]] shoot thousands of shots at WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck. He merely waves his hands, disissing them as mosquitoes.

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* In the WesternAnimation/{{Classic Disney Short|s}} ''Commando Duck'', several [[WartimeCartoon Japanese soldiers]] shoot thousands of shots at WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck. He merely waves his hands, disissing dismissing them as mosquitoes.
14th Jun '16 12:51:33 PM hullflyer
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Bonus points if anyone says something to the effect of "whoever is the actual target of that shooter is the safest one here."
10th Jun '16 2:46:21 AM Morgenthaler
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** ''Film/{{Spectre}}'': Pretty evident during Bond and Madeline's escape from the SPECTRE base in Morocco, where Bond mows down {{Mooks}} left and right without getting so much as a scratch.

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** ''Film/{{Spectre}}'': Pretty evident during Bond and Madeline's escape from the SPECTRE base in Morocco, where Bond mows down {{Mooks}} left and right without getting so much as a scratch. Particularly noticeable since when Bond breaks cover he steps completely out into the open rather than lean out from behind cover.
10th Jun '16 2:36:02 AM Morgenthaler
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* Stephen suffers from this at the beginning of ''Film/DawnOfTheDead''. He gets better as the film goes on, though.

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* Stephen suffers from this at the beginning of ''Film/DawnOfTheDead''.''Film/DawnOfTheDead1978''. He gets better as the film goes on, though.
8th Jun '16 9:29:11 PM Scot
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Named for the obvious StarWars connection, in which the mooks all seem to be visually impaired, which is odd, considering that canon states that they were all closes of Jengo Fett, Boba Fett's father, which you would think would put them at some kind of genetic advantage is such situations. Thankfully, this was changed in Film/TheForceAwakens, in which the Storm Troopers are actually competent.

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Named for the obvious StarWars connection, in which the mooks all seem to be visually impaired, which is odd, considering that canon states that they were all closes clones of Jengo Fett, Boba Fett's father, which you would think would put them at some kind of genetic advantage is such situations. Thankfully, this was changed in Film/TheForceAwakens, in which the Storm Troopers are actually competent.
5th Jun '16 10:45:17 PM kyeo
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* In ''Series/GenerationKill'', the Iraqi jihadists that ambush the Hitman platoon aren't able to wound (minorly) more than one American soldier when four of the platoon's Humvees are trapped on a bridge, while the Americans have no trouble taking the snipers out. Justified partially because it's dark and the Americans have night vision and laser sights, and partly due to TruthInTelevision; most of the jihadists were civilians who had been hastily recruited and had little weapons training, particularly with [[MoreDakka hard-to-control machine guns]].
4th Jun '16 6:50:00 AM arsepoetica
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Named for the obvious StarWars connection, in which the mooks all seem to be visually impaired, which is odd, considering that canon states that they were all closes of Jengo Fett, Boba Fett's father, which you would think would put them at some kind of genetic advantage is such situations. Thankfully, this was changed in Film/TheForceAwakens, in which the Storm Troopers are actually competent.
22nd May '16 1:02:53 PM erwgd
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* Averted in the ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries''. Attacking armed mooks head-on is usually suicide.

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* Averted in the ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries''. Attacking armed mooks head-on is usually suicide.suicide, Batman says (more or less), and he's correct. If you're spotted, the game encourages you to grapple up to a gargoyle and then swing between different gargoyles to lose the mooks. While you're doing this, they'll nail every single shot on Batman until they somehow lose sight of him.
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