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22nd Apr '17 12:30:35 PM Caps-luna
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* happens quite a lot with poorer states and, even more commonly, non-state militants. Setting up firing ranges, giving soldiers practice rounds, and dealing with the added cost of gun maintenance all cost money that isn't readily available. Insurgents not only have to deal with these issues, but also with the fact practice firing is noisy and even rudimentary training bases make tempting targets for enemy strike aircraft. Many of these fighters are only given a quick lesson about how their guns work and how to properly aim without firing rounds, which, combined with often poorly maintained and improperly sighted guns, leads to wildly inaccurate fire.
20th Apr '17 6:22:45 PM Mineboot45
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** Averted with the [[DoomTroops Death Troopers]] in ''Film/RogueOne'', they retained the brutal efficiency of how a Stormtrooper is supposed to be and are known for scoring ''numerous'' kill counts of the rebels as well as [[spoiler:[[HeroKiller two of the main casts]], Baze and Chirrut.]]



** ''Film/RogueOne'' finally gives us a potential in-universe explanation: Force-sensitives seem to have the latent ability to cause blaster shots to narrowly miss, almost as though the Force willed it. [[spoiler: There are plenty of hints (though no confirmation) that Chirrut is a Force-sensitive that was not selected to be trained as a Jedi, and is able to, through great concentration, walk through a field of [[EliteMook Death Troopers]] unscathed.]] Notably, the Stormtroopers encountered in the original trilogy are much more capable of hitting a RedShirt rebel soldier than any of the plot characters.

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** ''Film/RogueOne'' Averted with the [[DoomTroops Death Troopers]] in ''Film/RogueOne'', they retained the brutal efficiency of how a Stormtrooper is supposed to be and are known for scoring ''numerous'' kill counts of the rebels as well as [[spoiler:[[HeroKiller two of the main casts]], Baze and Chirrut.]]
*** ''Rogue One'' also
finally gives us a potential in-universe explanation: Force-sensitives seem to have the latent ability to cause blaster shots to narrowly miss, almost as though the Force willed it. [[spoiler: There are plenty of hints (though no confirmation) that Chirrut is a Force-sensitive that was not selected to be trained as a Jedi, and is able to, through great concentration, walk through a field of [[EliteMook Death Troopers]] unscathed.]] Notably, the Stormtroopers encountered in the original trilogy are much more capable of hitting a RedShirt rebel soldier than any of the plot characters.
20th Apr '17 10:17:28 AM WaterBlap
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* Andreas Hofer was sentenced to death for his rebellion against Napoleon, and legend has it that after the first salvo of the shooting squad barely wounded him, Hofer -- an experienced sharpshooter -- [[GallowsHumor mocked them for it.]]



* Taken to hilarious levels during the execution of Andreas Hofer, who was sentenced to death for his rebellion against Napoleon. Legend has it that after the first salvo of the shooting squad barely wounded him, [[GallowsHumor the experienced sharpshooter Hofer even mocked them for it...]]
* Even highly trained and experienced soldiers can find themselves emulating Stormtroopers on occasion. On September 23, 1989, in the Hilltop neighborhood of Tacoma, Washington, resident Bill Foulk, a US Army Ranger Staff Sergeant, was having a cookout with several of his friends (also Army Rangers) and their families. He and his party were attacked by local drug dealers in retaliation for Foulk's attempts to organize neighborhood watch and protection programs, which included videotaping of a nearby "crack house". In a gun battle lasting more than 10 minutes, over 300 rounds were reported to have been fired from semiautomatic pistols, rifles, and shotguns; without a single injury resulting on either side. Foulk's party was not prosecuted for their participation in the shooting, as city officials deemed it a clear case of self defense. Their commanding officer was less forgiving, however; and ordered them to spend several months of extended time on the firing range for failing to hit their targets.

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* Taken to hilarious levels during the execution of Andreas Hofer, who was sentenced to death for his rebellion against Napoleon. Legend has it that after the first salvo of the shooting squad barely wounded him, [[GallowsHumor the experienced sharpshooter Hofer even mocked them for it...]]
* Even highly trained and experienced soldiers can find themselves emulating Stormtroopers on occasion.
On September 23, 23 September, 1989, in the Hilltop neighborhood of Tacoma, Washington, resident Bill Foulk, a Washinton, US Army Ranger Staff Sergeant, Sergeant Bill Foulk was having a cookout with several of his Army Ranger friends (also Army Rangers) and their families. He and his party were attacked by local families. Unexpectedly, drug dealers attacked the party in retaliation for Foulk's attempts to organize Foulk organizing a neighborhood watch and other protection programs, which included videotaping of a nearby "crack house". In a gun battle lasting crack house. Although more than 10 minutes, over 300 rounds were reported to have been reportedly fired from semiautomatic pistols, rifles, and shotguns; without firearms, not a single injury resulting resulted on either side. side. Nobody from Foulk's party was not prosecuted for their participation in the shooting, as city officials deemed it a clear -- being an open-shut case of self defense. Their self-defense -- but their commanding officer was less forgiving, however; and ordered them to spend several months of extended time on the firing range for failing to hit not hitting their targets.
20th Apr '17 10:08:27 AM WaterBlap
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* American-trained local militias in Iraq and Afghanistan are famous for poor marksmanship. The technique of rapidly expending all available ammo in a direction not entirely away from the enemy has been dubbed the "Iraqi Death Blossom".
* A fair amount of this tends to happen in wars with large numbers of conscripted troops, such as the two world wars. As they aren't career soldiers, their difficulty in hitting is less to do with lack of skill and more to do with the psychological difficulty of actually taking a human life - a quick run through boot camp might give you the technical skill to aim and fire a rifle but it can't make a person WILLING to kill another person. As such, the majority of shots fired tend to be deliberately intended to miss - enough to suppress the enemy and prevent them from advancing but not actually causing anyone harm.



* Inner city gangs are notorious for terrible marksmanship, both in fiction and in real life. Many incidents where gang members hit one out of every twenty shots fired are recorded, or incidents where gang members hit no enemy gang members (or police officers) in a firefight but manage to hit innocent bystanders.
20th Apr '17 10:07:51 AM WaterBlap
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* [[RealityIsUnrealistic Good marksmanship isn't nearly as easy to master as writers seem to think, and it's even harder to achieve in a life-or-death situation]]. In a close-range, high-adrenaline situation, accuracy goes to pot and sharpshooters become stormtroopers. Soldiers (especially snipers) are trained to get a decent accuracy, but if a group is attacked by a different group of a similar size, magazines will be emptied with maybe a 10% accuracy rate.
* In general, the part that is unrealistic is not that the bad guys fail to hit anything, it is that the heroes are such good shots. Even ones like Luke, who have never had combat experience.
19th Apr '17 10:33:33 PM Karxrida
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Named for the obvious StarWars connection, in which the mooks all seem to be visually impaired, though there is one [[http://imgur.com/gallery/xgnot explanation]] for their seemingly inept abilities.

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Named for the obvious StarWars ''Franchise/StarWars'' connection, in which the mooks all seem to be visually impaired, though there is one [[http://imgur.com/gallery/xgnot explanation]] for their seemingly inept abilities.
14th Apr '17 11:39:17 AM MasterofGalaxies4628
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DodgeTheBullet is the inverse of this. For the bladed weapon variation, see NeverBringAKnifeToAFistFight. Opposite number to ImprobableAimingSkills. The use of MoreDakka can either overcome this, or [[ATeamFiring make it even sillier]]. When the bullets don't just spray around the target, but consistently hit where the target was a moment ago, it's a case of HeroTrackingFailure. See also PlotArmor for the ''reason'' the bad guys are such [[OnlyAFleshWound lousy shots]]. When the enemies vastly outnumber the heroes, their incompetence is a symptom of ConservationOfNinjutsu. Compare PowerfulButInaccurate, when the inaccuracy is a property of the weapon rather than the wielder.

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Obvious SubTrope of ATeamFiring. DodgeTheBullet is the inverse of this. For the bladed weapon variation, see NeverBringAKnifeToAFistFight. Opposite number to ImprobableAimingSkills. The use of MoreDakka can either overcome this, or [[ATeamFiring make it even sillier]]. When the bullets don't just spray around the target, but consistently hit where the target was a moment ago, it's a case of HeroTrackingFailure. See also PlotArmor for the ''reason'' the bad guys are such [[OnlyAFleshWound lousy shots]]. When the enemies vastly outnumber the heroes, their incompetence is a symptom of ConservationOfNinjutsu. Compare PowerfulButInaccurate, when the inaccuracy is a property of the weapon rather than the wielder.
27th Mar '17 4:27:00 AM LadyJaneGrey
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** XANA's monsters are really horrendous shots at times; they rarely hit the heroes with their FrickinLaserBeams... even sometimes at close range or when they are stationary targets.

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** XANA's monsters are really horrendous shots at times; they rarely hit the heroes with their FrickinLaserBeams... even sometimes at close range or when they are stationary targets. (Odd even lampshades this in one episode, claiming that the only thing dumber than a Blok is two of them together.)
27th Mar '17 4:24:31 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/FilmationsGhostbusters'', Jake's attempt to use the Dematerializer on a dragon melting the Arctic results in an EpicFail because, as he claims, he misses. (The dragon is the size of a mountain, as Eddie quickly mentioned; exactly how he could miss isn't clear, as it happened offscreen, but it was obviously a PlotTunnel to make the heroes' job harder.)
12th Mar '17 5:07:36 AM Eilevgmyhren
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** In one of the Lucky Luke short stories, a young man tries to impress his girlfriend by convincing her that he is at the same level as Wyatt Earp, let alone Luke himself. The problem is, he is such a terrible shot that every bullet he fires goes ''backwards'', hitting whatever target he has behind him (prompting Luke to take cover because he is standing behind him). At the end, this saves his reputation, because the bullets going the wrong way kills off a bank robber - he had the bank behind his back. It earns him the promotion to sherriff.
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