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6th Dec '16 1:58:47 PM Tacitus
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** The show subverts the original Funimation dub with Vegeta mentioned in the Anime section above. In [=DBZA=], it's ''Goku'' who suggests that Freeza made Vegeta evil, but Vegeta insists he'd be evil anyway.

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** The show subverts the original Funimation dub with Vegeta mentioned in the Anime section above. In [=DBZA=], ''[=DBZA=]'', it's ''Goku'' who suggests that Freeza made Vegeta evil, but Vegeta insists he'd be evil anyway.



--->"If I had any single regret for the countless horrific events that have transpired in my wake, it's that I'm dying."

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--->"If --->'''Freeza:''' If I had any single regret for the countless horrific events that have transpired in my wake, [[ItsAllAboutMe it's that I'm dying."]]



--->"Maybe I was wrong." ''[attempts to blast Goku one last time]'' "Nah!"
** In ''History of Trunks'' abridged, 17 actually becomes truly and completely bored with the pointless destructive rampage that he and his sister have been on. He begins pondering changing his life and sparing the human race... and then in the middle of his reverie Gohan [[NiceJobBReakingItHero lands a surprise hit on 17]]. This immediately makes 17 change his mind and decide that he is definitely going to entirely wipe out the human race.

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--->"Maybe --->'''Freeza:''' Maybe I was wrong." ''[attempts to blast Goku one last time]'' "Nah!"
wrong... ''Nah!''
** In ''History of Trunks'' abridged, 17 actually becomes truly and completely bored with the pointless destructive rampage that he and his sister have been on. He begins pondering changing his life life, becoming a park ranger and sparing the human race... and then in the middle of his reverie Gohan [[NiceJobBReakingItHero lands a surprise hit on 17]]. This immediately makes 17 change his mind and decide that he is definitely going to entirely wipe out the human race.race, ''then'' become a park ranger.



* In Episode 5 of ''VideoGame/TalesFromtheBorderlands'' after Rhys [[spoiler: crashes Helios into Pandora]] he and [[ArtificialIntelligence Handsome Jack]] have a heart-to-heart conversation. Jack admits that [[AmbitionisEvil ambition blinded him while he was alive]], and he drove away everyone he cared about, including Angel. If pressed about her he admits he was responsible for her [[HeroicSacrifice suicide]], as he left her no other choice when he [[ForYourOwnGood locked her up]]. This heart-to-heart then ends with Jack [[GrandTheftMe hijacking Rhys]] and trying to [[KillUsBoth kill them both]].

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* In Episode 5 of ''VideoGame/TalesFromtheBorderlands'' ''VideoGame/TalesFromTheBorderlands'' after Rhys [[spoiler: crashes Helios into Pandora]] he and [[ArtificialIntelligence Handsome Jack]] have a heart-to-heart conversation. Jack admits that [[AmbitionisEvil ambition blinded him while he was alive]], and he drove away everyone he cared about, including Angel. If pressed about her he admits he was responsible for her [[HeroicSacrifice suicide]], as he left her no other choice when he [[ForYourOwnGood locked her up]]. This heart-to-heart then ends with Jack [[GrandTheftMe hijacking Rhys]] and trying to [[KillUsBoth kill them both]].both]].
* Throughout ''VideoGame/SpecOpsTheLine'', as [[PlayerCharacter Walker]] and his squad go deeper into the hell that is Dubai, they find evidence like audio recordings that indicate that [[BigBad Colonel Konrad]] had a HeelRealization about just what kind of a despot he was becoming in his attempts to maintain order in the sandstorm-choked city, even while Konrad [[WhatTheHellHero chews out Walker over the radio for fighting against him.]] ''Except''... [[spoiler:Konrad was DeadAllAlong, and was DrivenToSuicide by what he'd done to Dubai before Walker even showed up. So the "Konrad" that Walker is hearing over the (broken) radio is his own conscience trying to tell him that he didn't "have to" do any of the atrocities he committed to come this far, that everything's he's done has only made things worse, but Walker ignores it to shout back at "Konrad" and put all the blame on him. It's only at the very end, when he finds Konrad's long-dead corpse, that Walker is forced to confront the truth.]]
3rd Nov '16 3:27:32 PM CountDorku
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* In the ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' novel ''Caledor'', as the Phoenix Guard smack Malekith around with halberds glimmering with the flame of Asuryan, he realises that the gods found him unworthy to be Phoenix King. All this does in the long term is move him from "I am the rightful King and all the elves who oppose me are wrong" to "I am the rightful King ''and the gods are wrong''".
24th Oct '16 9:28:44 PM megajake
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'': when Hope details Operation Nora for Lightning, she realizes that Hope intends to kill Snow out of revenge for his mother's death (which really wasn't Snow's fault). Lightning tries to talk him out of it, but Hope is GenreSavvy enough to know that revenge solves nothing. He just doesn't care, and wants to kill Snow anyways.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'': when Hope details Operation Nora for Lightning, she realizes that Hope intends to kill Snow out of revenge for his mother's death (which really wasn't Snow's fault). Lightning tries to talk him out of it, but Hope is GenreSavvy enough to know that revenge solves nothing. He just doesn't care, and wants to kill Snow anyways. [[note]]In the end, he doesn't go through with it.[[/note]]
11th Oct '16 12:37:44 PM Nintendoman01
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'': Zamasu has such a moment after killing a mortal in cold blood when he could have simply left with his master; when Gowasu is [[WhatTheHellHero lecturing him over it]], he can't even look him in the eye. In his very next scene, Zamasu has gotten over it and believes his actions were justified because, as far as he's concerned, mortals are AlwaysChaoticEvil.
2nd Oct '16 8:16:36 PM CountDorku
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** [[spoiler:Anders]] apparently has one, but most of it is off-screen between Acts II and III. [[spoiler:He tries to put his obsession with the mages' plight aside and learn to reign in Vengeance. If he actually killed the mage he rescued during his personal quest, he outright calls himself a monster.]] Yet, by Act III, the obsession is back. And its much, much worse.

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** [[spoiler:Anders]] apparently has one, but most of it is off-screen between Acts II and III. [[spoiler:He tries to put his obsession with the mages' plight aside and learn to reign in Vengeance. If he actually killed the mage he rescued during his personal quest, he outright calls himself a monster.]] Yet, by Act III, the obsession is back. And its much, much worse. [[spoiler:He goes so far as to fake an epiphany, using ExactWords to make it sound like he was trying to get rid of Vengeance, in order to trick Hawke into finding chemicals he can use to blow up the Chantry]].
29th Sep '16 8:26:05 PM CountDorku
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** Three of the Light Warriors had near-simultaneous examples at the Castle of Ordeals. Black Mage stabbed the incarnation of all of his inner evil, and then reabsorbed it and refused to learn anything; Red Mage accidentally passed the Ordeal of Pride by admitting he had been bested, and then immediately concluded that he had passed because he was super brilliant and had passed it subconsciously; and Fighter, when told that he needed to stop resting on his swordplay laurels and use his brain in the Ordeal of Sloth, checked with his brain, found it suggested using swords, and killed the monster giving him the test. The only exception was Thief, who was randomly teleported away from his Ordeal before it could really get started, leaving Black Mage to solve that one too.
25th Aug '16 12:30:01 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* In ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'', this is how Father Comstock started down the path to become an ultranationalist, racist, religious tyrant. The things he did in the Indian Wars drove him to get a baptism at a Christian revival, but instead of [[GoAndSinNoMore being washed of his sins and repenting]], Comstock interpreted the experience to mean that [[MoralMyopia his crimes weren't sins in the first place, and were therefore fully justified.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'', this is how Father Comstock started down the path to become an ultranationalist, racist, religious religiously fanatical tyrant. The things he did in the Indian Wars drove him to get a baptism at a Christian revival, but instead of [[GoAndSinNoMore being washed of his sins and repenting]], Comstock interpreted the experience to mean that [[MoralMyopia his crimes weren't sins in the first place, and were therefore fully justified.]]
5th Aug '16 8:06:31 PM CheekyBishie
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*In Episode 5 of ''VideoGame/TalesFromtheBorderlands'' after Rhys [[spoiler: crashes Helios into Pandora]] he and [[ArtificialIntelligence Handsome Jack]] have a heart-to-heart conversation. Jack admits that [[AmbitionisEvil ambition blinded him while he was alive]], and he drove away everyone he cared about, including Angel. If pressed about her he admits he was responsible for her [[HeroicSacrifice suicide]], as he left her no other choice when he [[ForYourOwnGood locked her up]]. This heart-to-heart then ends with Jack [[GrandTheftMe hijacking Rhys]] and trying to [[KillUsBoth kill them both]].
21st Jul '16 4:20:00 AM Psi001
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* Cartman in ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' recurrently falls victim to this. He has a common inability to learn Aesops, especially about selflessness and empathy, as he is lampshaded as [[EvilCannotComprehendGood near physically lacking a conscience]] (he's even tried to deliver AnAesop, it was naturally mangled horribly). Even besides that Cartman is usually too egotistical and childish to learn from his mistakes.
-->'''Kyle:''' Dammit, Cartman, didn't you learn ''anything''?
20th Jul '16 4:56:50 AM Morgenthaler
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** In a DangerouslyGenreSavvy moment, Black Mage [[spoiler:subverted this all to hell by ''faking'' an Epiphany after accidentally wounding White Mage. [[http://www.nuklearpower.com/2009/05/12/episode-1127-invincible-sword-technique The faux epiphany made Fighter drop his guard and turn his back on Black Mage]], which Black Mage promptly took advantage of]].

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** In a DangerouslyGenreSavvy cunning moment, Black Mage [[spoiler:subverted this all to hell by ''faking'' an Epiphany after accidentally wounding White Mage. [[http://www.nuklearpower.com/2009/05/12/episode-1127-invincible-sword-technique The faux epiphany made Fighter drop his guard and turn his back on Black Mage]], which Black Mage promptly took advantage of]].
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