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31st Jul '16 12:48:39 AM JackG
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* In the TV movie ''The Great Escape II: The Untold Story'', a Gestapo agent takes several prisoners of war out for a drive so they can be "[[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident shot while trying to escape]]". When he announces their execution, they just stare at him coldly. The Gestapo man realises this DissonentSerenity is because they suspected all along the fate he had in mind for them.

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* In the TV movie ''The Great Escape II: The Untold Story'', a Gestapo agent takes several prisoners of war out for a drive so they can be "[[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident shot while trying to escape]]". When he announces their execution, they just stare at him coldly. The Gestapo man realises this DissonentSerenity DissonantSerenity is because they suspected all along the fate he had in mind for them.
31st Jul '16 12:48:14 AM JackG
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* In the TV movie ''The Great Escape II: The Untold Story'', a Gestapo agent takes several prisoners of war out for a drive so they can be "[[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident shot while trying to escape]]". When he announces their execution, they just stare at him coldly. The Gestapo man realises this DissonentSerenity is because they suspected all along the fate he had in mind for them.
22nd Jul '16 9:49:56 PM HeroGal2347
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* ''Series/TheATeam'', "[[Recap/TheATeamS3E12HotStyles Hot Styles]]". When Turian gloats to Face that he's already too late to stop him from stealing the fashion designs, Face reveals that he suspected Rina would be frightened enough to inform on him and hence he didn't replace the film. Turian sent the decoy roll with Murdock's designs to his boss and tossed the real roll into the harbor.
12th Jul '16 7:42:02 AM rafi
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* One episode of ''Anime/YuGiOh'' does this word-for-word, during Joey's battle with Yugi. He gives a long internal monologue about whether or not the card Yugi placed down was a trap card or if that was too obvious...
** "Aw, forget it, I'm just gonna attack."
** This exact scenario, with whatever permutations, has gone on in in the mind of every person who has played the game in real life, at least once.
** Any duel involving [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds Crow]] becomes this for his opponent, sometimes because he makes it a point to flaunt his foolproof strategy (which actually works) and sometimes because his opponents think too much.
* ''Every'' fight during the second part of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' follows this pattern. Jojo attacks, the opponent declares they saw it coming and counters, Jojo explains he saw ''that'' coming and twists the attack as needed, and so on until one side or the other goes down. This carries over to later parts of the series -- For example: Jotaro "faking" his genuine ability to [[spoiler:move through stopped time]] so that Dio would be caught off-guard after calling him on his apparent bluff.
* This makes up about a third of ''Manga/{{Kaiji}}'', the other two-thirds being basic game theory and heroic determination. In particular, the defeat of [[spoiler:Tonegawa]] in the first season is based on Kaiji's realization of when [[spoiler:Tonegawa]] will ''stop'' knowing he knows. [[spoiler:Tonegawa's observant enough to notice that two of Kaiji's cards are bloodstained on the back, and clever enough to realize that Kaiji has to know the cards are bloodstained. From there, Tonegawa assumes that Kaiji set a simple trap, bloodstaining cards other than the ones Tonegawa thought he had out, so as to trick him into playing the wrong card and losing. But because Tonegawa thinks he's better and smarter than lower-class gamblers like Kaiji, it doesn't occur to him that Kaiji would realize that Tonegawa would realize this, and that the cards are exactly the ones he initially thought they were.]]
* Appears in ''Anime/GhostInTheShellStandAloneComplex'', strangely not as a part of an EvilPlan, but in a sniper duel. In fact, the whole episode revolves around knowing and predicting enemy tactics. The story is told by one character during a poker game to illustrate to the other players why he is so good at bluffing.
* This is ALL of ''Spiral'' once the Blade Children storyline starts.



* The third round in ''Manga/LiarGame'' becomes this with Akiyama and Yokoya. The fourth round features it even more.
* Most of the point of ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'' is like this, with Yang Wenli and Reinhard (and various other pairs) making plans, which may include knowing their opponent's plans (and sometimes involve a plan being an opponent seeing though the plan, with an extra layer of fake planning below it).



* A major plot point of a certain ''LightNovel/SpiceAndWolf'' arc. Holo is a semi-deity, one incredibly adept at quick thinking and long term planning both. Her [[SherlockScan sharp senses]] and silver tongue can turn practically any bargain into an incredible deal. So when Lawrence manages to find himself in a make-or-break financial showdown with Amati, (who is ''also'' an incredible merchant), he almost breaks down trying to out-think their combined plans. [[spoiler:Holo was actually helping him the whole time, he was just so distraught over the matter that he missed the hints she was dropping, and completely misinterpreted the few he caught.]]
* An episode of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' had the group seeing a basket of fruit on the road. Ash wanted to eat it, but Misty points out that it's an obvious trap by [[TerribleTrio Team Rocket]]. She then points to some fruit growing in the trees, which the gang decided to take... causing them to fall right into a trap set by Team Rocket, who set up the basket knowing it would be ignored.



* Appears in ''Anime/GhostInTheShellStandAloneComplex'', strangely not as a part of an EvilPlan, but in a sniper duel. In fact, the whole episode revolves around knowing and predicting enemy tactics. The story is told by one character during a poker game to illustrate to the other players why he is so good at bluffing.
* ''Every'' fight during the second part of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' follows this pattern. Joseph attacks, the opponent declares they saw it coming and counters, Joseph explains he saw ''that'' coming and twists the attack as needed, and so on until one side or the other goes down.
** This carries over to later parts of the series. For example: Jotaro "faking" his genuine ability to [[spoiler:move through stopped time]] so that Dio would be caught off-guard after calling him on his apparent bluff.
* This makes up about a third of ''Manga/{{Kaiji}}'', the other two-thirds being basic game theory and heroic determination. In particular, the defeat of [[spoiler:Tonegawa]] in the first season is based on Kaiji's realization of when [[spoiler:Tonegawa]] will ''stop'' knowing he knows. [[spoiler:Tonegawa's observant enough to notice that two of Kaiji's cards are bloodstained on the back, and clever enough to realize that Kaiji has to know the cards are bloodstained. From there, Tonegawa assumes that Kaiji set a simple trap, bloodstaining cards other than the ones Tonegawa thought he had out, so as to trick him into playing the wrong card and losing. But because Tonegawa thinks he's better and smarter than lower-class gamblers like Kaiji, it doesn't occur to him that Kaiji would realize that Tonegawa would realize this, and that the cards are exactly the ones he initially thought they were.]]
* Most of the point of ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'' is like this, with Yang Wenli and Reinhard (and various other pairs) making plans, which may include knowing their opponent's plans (and sometimes involve a plan being an opponent seeing though the plan, with an extra layer of fake planning below it).
* The third round in ''Manga/LiarGame'' becomes this with Akiyama and Yokoya. The fourth round features it even more.
* In ''LightNovel/LogHorizon'', there's a fair amount of this going on when the Eastal Alliance approaches the Round Table Conference for help against the goblin armies. Eastal desperately needs the Adventurers' superior military abilities, but they don't want to appear vulnerable, lest they make themselves out to be weak. The Round Table Conference, meanwhile, wants to help but don't want to make it seem like they are subservient or inferior to Eastal, lest the Eastal nobility think they can order the Adventurers around whenever they want. And of course, each side of the discussion is aware of the other side's agenda, and the fact that the other side knows their agenda. What follows is a complex and delicate battle of VerbalJudo between the two powers as they try to be allies while saving face.
* An episode of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}'' had the group seeing a basket of fruit on the road. Ash wanted to eat it, but Misty points out that it's an obvious trap by [[TerribleTrio Team Rocket]]. She then points to some fruit growing in the trees, which the gang decided to take... causing them to fall right into a trap set by Team Rocket, who set up the basket knowing it would be ignored.



* In ''LightNovel/LogHorizon'', there's a fair amount of this going on when the Eastal Alliance approaches the Round Table Conference for help against the goblin armies. Eastal desperately needs the Adventurers' superior military abilities, but they don't want to appear vulnerable, lest they make themselves out to be weak. The Round Table Conference, meanwhile, wants to help but don't want to make it seem like they are subservient or inferior to Eastal, lest the Eastal nobility think they can order the Adventurers around whenever they want. And of course, each side of the discussion is aware of the other side's agenda, and the fact that the other side knows their agenda. What follows is a complex and delicate battle of VerbalJudo between the two powers as they try to be allies while saving face.

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* In ''LightNovel/LogHorizon'', there's a fair amount A major plot point of this going on a certain ''LightNovel/SpiceAndWolf'' arc. Holo is a semi-deity, one incredibly adept at quick thinking and long term planning both. Her [[SherlockScan sharp senses]] and silver tongue can turn practically any bargain into an incredible deal. So when the Eastal Alliance approaches the Round Table Conference for help against the goblin armies. Eastal desperately needs the Adventurers' superior military abilities, but they don't want Lawrence manages to appear vulnerable, lest they make themselves out find himself in a make-or-break financial showdown with Amati, (who is ''also'' an incredible merchant), he almost breaks down trying to be weak. The Round Table Conference, meanwhile, wants to help but don't want to make it seem like they are subservient or inferior to Eastal, lest the Eastal nobility think they can order the Adventurers around whenever they want. And of course, each side of the discussion is aware of the other side's agenda, and the fact that the other side knows out-think their agenda. What follows is a complex combined plans. [[spoiler:Holo was actually helping him the whole time, he was just so distraught over the matter that he missed the hints she was dropping, and delicate completely misinterpreted the few he caught.]]
* One episode of ''Anime/YuGiOh'' does this word-for-word, during Joey's
battle of VerbalJudo between with Yugi. He gives a long internal monologue about whether or not the two powers as they try card Yugi placed down was a trap card or if that was too obvious...
** "Aw, forget it, I'm just gonna attack."
** This exact scenario, with whatever permutations, has gone on in in the mind of every person who has played the game in real life, at least once.
** Any duel involving [[Anime/YuGiOh5Ds Crow]] becomes this for his opponent, sometimes because he makes it a point
to be allies while saving face.flaunt his foolproof strategy (which actually works) and sometimes because his opponents think too much.
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%%* This is ALL of ''Spiral'' once the Blade Children storyline starts.
17th Jun '16 7:21:44 PM Zuxtron
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* ''VideoGame/Dota2'': The Techies are known and feared for being able to create invisible minefields, which can take off a huge portion of your health or even instantly kill you if you step on them. This can be used to invoke this trope: you can choose to put mines in a high-traffic area, where enemies are likely to step on them. But a savvy opponent will predict that, and take a different path instead. So you could choose to instead mine that path. To further increase the confusion, Techies can also place a minefield warning sign. Is the sign honestly warning you, or is it a trick to make you take the other path and get blown up there? These dilemmas can both be solved by putting down a Sentry Ward or buying a Gem of Truesight, which reveals the invisible mines so you can destroy them. But if the Techies buy Aghanim's Scepter, the minefield gains an additional ability: mines placed withing a small radius of it can not be revealed at all, even with truesight. Are you still willing to take that chance and walk through what may be a minefield? Or will you take the detour?
13th Jun '16 2:18:29 AM PaulA
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* Creator/EdgarAllanPoe plays this one straight in one of his mystery stories, "The Purloined Letter". Private eye Auguste Dupin actually explains that this is the reason he can outwit the police and get his man. The police know who stole the document; the thief knows the police know. The difference between Dupin and the police is that Dupin knows the suspect knows the police know, and the police don't know that.

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* Creator/EdgarAllanPoe plays this one straight in one of his mystery stories, "The Purloined Letter". "Literature/ThePurloinedLetter". Private eye Auguste Dupin Literature/CAugusteDupin actually explains that this is the reason he can outwit the police and get his man. The police know who stole the document; the thief knows the police know. The difference between Dupin and the police is that Dupin knows the suspect knows the police know, and the police don't know that.
7th Jun '16 12:54:10 PM Tron80
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* ''Fanfic/OnceMoreWithFeeling'': Gendo and SEELE's final goals come into conflict with one another. Both sides know that, Gendo knows SEELE knows his real goals, and SEELE knows Gendo knows they know he's liable to betray them in the future.
--> Their investigations ''had'' uncovered that there was some kind of friction between SEELE and their point man at Central. As far as Kaji had understood and explained it, the goals of SEELE and Gendo meshed well until some undetermined point in the future, at which point… things would probably happen.\\
Both sides ''pretended'' it wasn't the case, but both sides ''knew'' the truth and were constantly maneuvering for position even as they worked together closely on what they needed to cooperate on.
3rd Jun '16 2:27:46 PM DrFraud
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Usually results in an OverlyLongGag. Frequently ends with an ''"I DidntSeeThatComing"''. May result in ArchiveBinge-like behavior when plans are laid for both eventualities, and then for both of those eventualities, and then all four of those, and then all sixteen... This may develop into a GambitRoulette if it hasn't done so already.

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Usually results in an OverlyLongGag. Frequently ends with an ''"I DidntSeeThatComing"''."I DidntSeeThatComing". May result in ArchiveBinge-like behavior when plans are laid for both eventualities, and then for both of those eventualities, and then all four of those, and then all sixteen... This may develop into a GambitRoulette if it hasn't done so already.
3rd Jun '16 8:11:55 AM HiddenWindshield
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** The ''Literature/NewSeriesAdventures'' novel ''The Doctor Trap'' has an ''entire plot'' based off this. The villain is convince the Doctor knows something the villain doesn't. Not really. The titular trap, the Doctor explains is [[spoiler:what ''they think'' you know that they don't.]] Confused? Yeah, [[GambitPileup join everyone else in the book.]]

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** The ''Literature/NewSeriesAdventures'' novel ''The Doctor Trap'' has an ''entire plot'' based off this. The villain is convince convinced the Doctor knows something the villain doesn't. Not really. The titular trap, the Doctor explains is [[spoiler:what ''they think'' you know that they don't.]] Confused? Yeah, [[GambitPileup join everyone else in the book.]]
28th May '16 2:21:26 PM DaibhidC
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* The ''Literature/NewSeriesAdventures'' novel ''The Doctor Trap'' has an ''entire plot'' based off this. The villain is convince the Doctor knows something the villain doesn't. Not really. The titular trap, the Doctor explains is [[spoiler:what ''they think'' you know that they don't.]] Confused? Yeah, [[GambitPileup join everyone else in the book.]]

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* ** The ''Literature/NewSeriesAdventures'' novel ''The Doctor Trap'' has an ''entire plot'' based off this. The villain is convince the Doctor knows something the villain doesn't. Not really. The titular trap, the Doctor explains is [[spoiler:what ''they think'' you know that they don't.]] Confused? Yeah, [[GambitPileup join everyone else in the book.]]
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