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15th Oct '17 7:18:03 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* Deconstructed in ''Fanfic/NeonGenesisEvangelionGenocide''. [[BigBad Gendo]] labeled any atrocity he committed as “necessary sacrifice”. His second-in-command Fuyutsuki called his reasoning “bad excuse”.

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* Deconstructed in ''Fanfic/NeonGenesisEvangelionGenocide''. [[BigBad Gendo]] labeled any atrocity he committed as “necessary sacrifice”. a "necessary sacrifice". His second-in-command Fuyutsuki called his calls this reasoning “bad excuse”.a "bad excuse".
22nd Aug '17 9:12:14 AM JJHIL325
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*** This gets deconstructed when Applejack points out that this trope sounds pretty extreme. Celestia agrees that it's a slippery slope and that way too many abuse it as an excuse for their actions. She and Luna proceed to explain that while leaders [[ShootTheDog sometimes had to get their hands dirty when it comes to tough decisions]], it's easy to become a monster when you think certain actions (such as murder, kidnapping, and theft) are justified, and even the best-intentioned actions can have unintended side-effects. That's why you had to use the "I did what I had to do" excuse as an absolutely last resort.

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*** This gets deconstructed discussed when Applejack points out that this trope sounds pretty extreme. Celestia agrees that it's a slippery slope and that way too many abuse it as an excuse for their actions. She and Luna proceed to explain that while leaders [[ShootTheDog sometimes had to get their hands dirty when it comes to tough decisions]], it's easy to become a monster when you think certain actions (such as murder, kidnapping, false imprisonment, and theft) are justified, and even the best-intentioned actions can have unintended side-effects. That's why you had to use the "I did what I had to do" excuse as an absolutely last resort.
22nd Aug '17 9:09:31 AM JJHIL325
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** Inverted, as Celestia assures Twilight that [[spoiler: [[{{Retgone}} retgoning]] the adult Starlight and changing the timeline by adopting the filly Starlight out of her OrphanageOfFear without knowing the full consequences]], while dangerous, was necessary and that she had no other choice. When Applejack points out that this trope sounds dangerous, Celestia admits that it's a slippery slope and that way too many abuse it as an excuse for their actions.

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** Inverted, as Celestia assures Twilight that [[spoiler: [[{{Retgone}} retgoning]] the adult Starlight and changing the timeline by adopting the filly Starlight out of her OrphanageOfFear without knowing the full consequences]], while dangerous, was necessary [[ShootTheDog and that she had no other choice. When choice]].
*** This gets deconstructed when
Applejack points out that this trope sounds dangerous, pretty extreme. Celestia admits agrees that it's a slippery slope and that way too many abuse it as an excuse for their actions. She and Luna proceed to explain that while leaders [[ShootTheDog sometimes had to get their hands dirty when it comes to tough decisions]], it's easy to become a monster when you think certain actions (such as murder, kidnapping, and theft) are justified, and even the best-intentioned actions can have unintended side-effects. That's why you had to use the "I did what I had to do" excuse as an absolutely last resort.
22nd Aug '17 8:59:56 AM JJHIL325
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* ''[[Fanfic/AftermathOfTheGames Integration]]'':
** Inverted, as Celestia assures Twilight that [[spoiler: [[{{Retgone}} retgoning]] the adult Starlight and changing the timeline by adopting the filly Starlight out of her OrphanageOfFear without knowing the full consequences]], while dangerous, was necessary and that she had no other choice. When Applejack points out that this trope sounds dangerous, Celestia admits that it's a slippery slope and that way too many abuse it as an excuse for their actions.
** Played straight when Human Rainbow Dash kicks one of the Changelings [[GroinAttack below the belt]] to save [[spoiler: Sci-Twi]], an action that [[RealityEnsues ended up with him needing immediate medical attention]]. Apple Bloom is shocked when she heard about it, since her dad taught her it was ''never'' okay to do something like that to a guy. Dash proceeds to explain to the younger girl that in a dangerous situation, you sometimes have to resort to dirty tactics to survive and that if she ''didn't'' do it, Rainbow probably would have gotten stabbed and [[spoiler: the kidnappers would have suceeded in taking away Sci-Twi]].
9th Aug '17 8:44:14 PM infernape612
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* ''Fanfic/ACrownOfStars'': Discussed. Daniel discusses Shinji's actions during the Bardiel battle with him and tells Shinji that even if it was a terrible thing to do, Gendo had no option but activating the dummy plug since Shinji would not fight -he would not even lift a finger to try to rescue the pilot- and they could not let Bardiel reach Lilith, not matter what. He also examines Shinji's actions during the coup against Winthrop (refusing fighting in the middle of Berlin out of fear to hurt civilians) and pointed out that: Shinji nearly got Asuka and himself killed; and if they had not risked to accidentally kill people, plenty more people would have assuredly died if they did not stop Winthrop. Then he explains that sometimes it is regrettably necessary endangering innocent lives to save a greater number of people, and Shinji has to agree he was going to let a lot of people dye so that his conscience remained clean.

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* ''Fanfic/ACrownOfStars'': Discussed. Daniel discusses Shinji's actions during the Bardiel battle with him and tells Shinji that even if it was a terrible thing to do, Gendo had no option but activating the dummy plug since Shinji would not fight -he would not even lift a finger to try to rescue the pilot- and they could not let Bardiel reach Lilith, not matter what. He also examines Shinji's actions during the coup against Winthrop (refusing fighting in the middle of Berlin out of fear to hurt civilians) and pointed out that: Shinji nearly got Asuka and himself killed; and if they had not risked to accidentally kill people, plenty more people would have assuredly died if they did not stop Winthrop. Then he explains that sometimes it is regrettably necessary endangering innocent lives to save a greater number of people, and Shinji has to agree he was going to let a lot of people dye die so that his conscience remained clean.
9th Aug '17 8:43:35 PM infernape612
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* Shows up the in kalash93 story, ''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/228544/how-it-was How It Was]]''. In it, the protagonist uses it as his explanation for why he killed an enemy who had surrendered. The other characters do not buy it. This trope is a running theme in the story on multiple levels, as the story is an interestng look into PTSD.

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* Shows up in the in kalash93 story, ''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/228544/how-it-was How It Was]]''. In it, the protagonist uses it as his explanation for why he killed an enemy who had surrendered. The other characters do not buy it. This trope is a running theme in the story on multiple levels, as the story is an interestng look into PTSD.



* During World War II, in the Pacific Theater, a fighter pilot crashed upon landing and was trapped in the burning wreckage. The first officer to arrive on the scene, hearing the pilot's screams as he was burned alive and knowing that the firefighting equipment to put out the fire and extricate him from the wreck would never get there in time, promptly drew his sidearm and killed the pilot, sparing him an agonizing death. There wasn't even any talk of a court-martial, as everyone knew that he'd basically had the balls to do something unpleasant that had to be done.

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* During World War II, in the Pacific Theater, a fighter pilot crashed upon landing and was trapped in the burning wreckage. The first officer to arrive on the scene, hearing the pilot's screams as he was burned alive and knowing that the firefighting equipment to put out the fire and extricate him from the wreck would never get there in time, [[MercyKill promptly drew his sidearm and killed the pilot, sparing him an agonizing death.death]]. There wasn't even any talk of a court-martial, as everyone knew that he'd basically had the balls to do something unpleasant that had to be done.
4th Aug '17 8:01:41 PM DeisTheAlcano
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->I have always admired Lincoln. When the South began going its own way, he knew that taking a position against them would lead to civil war. But he did it anyway. Because he understood something... understood it more perhaps than anyone else in that time. He knew that a house divided against itself cannot stand... a nation can not be divided and survive. Under his administration, brother hunted down brother, friend turned against friend. It was terrible. It was bloody. It was '''necessary'''. Because at the end, the republic held, and the nation was restored.

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->I ->''"I have always admired Lincoln. When the South began going its own way, he knew that taking a position against them would lead to civil war. But he did it anyway. Because he understood something... understood it more perhaps than anyone else in that time. He knew that a house divided against itself cannot stand... a nation can not be divided and survive. Under his administration, brother hunted down brother, friend turned against friend. It was terrible. It was bloody. It was '''necessary'''. Because at the end, the republic held, and the nation was restored."''
15th Jul '17 9:57:42 AM HasturHasturHastur
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Generally associated with OOCIsSeriousBusiness. Compare WellIntentionedExtremist and ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime. When the character's motivation is her responsibility to those under her command, see TheChainsOfCommanding. If the consequences shown actually ''justify'' the action, then that's TheExtremistWasRight. A character growing too comfortable with 'doing what I had to do' is guilty of a ReverseSlipperySlopeFallacy.

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Generally associated with OOCIsSeriousBusiness. Compare WellIntentionedExtremist and ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime. When the character's motivation is her responsibility to those under her command, see TheChainsOfCommanding. If the consequences shown actually ''justify'' the action, then that's TheExtremistWasRight. A character growing too comfortable with 'doing what I had to do' is guilty of a ReverseSlipperySlopeFallacy.
ReverseSlipperySlopeFallacy. Can be a MoralEventHorizon if it was particularly cruel or if they're particularly callous and nonchalant about it when confronted.
13th Jul '17 1:31:06 PM Dontfollowmeman
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* A common theme of the Wiki/SCPFoundation, but by far the most extreme example is the [[http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-231 SCP-231 project.]] Pregnant girl of undetermined age carrying what appears to be [[FetusTerrible some monster]] that, if birthed, will be TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. The only way to prevent the birth? [[spoiler: Procedure 110-Montauk, which (while never actually described ''what'' it entails), must be carried out once every 24 hours by 6 Class D Personnel who are also convicted sex offenders.]] Yes, it ''is'' as bad as you think. No, the girl cannot be put out of her misery. No, the girl cannot be drugged into amnesia or unconsciousness. She has to be fully awake for the procedure to work. Yes, it is just as horrifying a prospect as you could imagine. [[spoiler:A hidden message on the page claims the Foundation has no intention of trying to save the girl and want whatever is inside her right where it is.]]

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* A common theme of the Wiki/SCPFoundation, but by far the most extreme example is the [[http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-231 SCP-231 project.]] Pregnant girl of undetermined age carrying what appears to be [[FetusTerrible some monster]] that, if birthed, will be TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. The only way to prevent the birth? [[spoiler: Procedure 110-Montauk, which (while never actually described ''what'' it entails), must be carried out once every 24 hours by 6 Class D Personnel who are also convicted sex offenders.]] Yes, it ''is'' as bad as you think. No, the girl cannot be put out of her misery. No, the girl cannot be drugged into amnesia or unconsciousness. She has to be fully awake for the procedure to work. In fact, she is routinely given amnesia drugs so that she can't ever get used to it. Yes, it is just as horrifying a prospect as you could imagine. [[spoiler:A hidden message on the page claims the Foundation has no intention of trying to save the girl and want whatever is inside her right where it is.]]
10th Jul '17 7:37:22 PM Gideoncrawle
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->I have always admired [[UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]]. When [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar the South began going its own way]], he knew that taking a position against them would lead to civil war. But he did it anyway. Because he understood something... understood it more perhaps than anyone else in that time. He knew that a house divided against itself cannot stand... a nation can not be divided and survive. Under his administration, brother hunted down brother, friend turned against friend. It was terrible. It was bloody. It was '''necessary'''. Because at the end, the republic held, and the nation was restored.

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->I have always admired [[UsefulNotes/AbrahamLincoln Lincoln]]. Lincoln. When [[UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar the South began going its own way]], way, he knew that taking a position against them would lead to civil war. But he did it anyway. Because he understood something... understood it more perhaps than anyone else in that time. He knew that a house divided against itself cannot stand... a nation can not be divided and survive. Under his administration, brother hunted down brother, friend turned against friend. It was terrible. It was bloody. It was '''necessary'''. Because at the end, the republic held, and the nation was restored.
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