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NoRealLifeExamplesPlease.NoRealLifeExamplesPlease -- at least until we've made contact with an entirely pacifistic extraterrestrial race.
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** The Race is shown to be applying plenty of double standards to humans. They consider human religious beliefs to be primitive and ridiculous, but don't try to say anything bad about their emperors, whom they revere as gods (of course, this can be said about most religious people). They claim that humans are reckless in detonating nukes to try to stop the Race invasion, after nuking Berlin and Washington for no good reason and then retaliating to humans using nukes with their own nukes.

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->'''Ripley''': You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage.

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->'''Ripley''': You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them [[StarfishAliens them]] fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage.
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* The dragon's justification in ''[[Discworld/GuardsGuards Guards! Guards!]]''. Dragons kill because they're ''supposed'' to, humans kill for a variety of flimsy reasons, or sometimes just for the hell of it.

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* The dragon's justification in ''[[Discworld/GuardsGuards Guards! Guards!]]''.''Discworld/GuardsGuards''. Dragons kill because they're ''supposed'' to, humans kill for a variety of flimsy reasons, or sometimes just for the hell of it.



* Touched on in BattlestarGalactica a little. Six claims murder is humanity's one true art. They also mention Cylons don't torture or try to inflict suffering when they kill. It turns out that she's completely full of shit, but in her defense, she didn't know it at the time.

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* Touched on in BattlestarGalactica ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}}'' a little. Six claims murder is humanity's one true art. They also mention Cylons don't torture or try to inflict suffering when they kill. It turns out that she's completely full of shit, but in her defense, she didn't know it at the time.


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* Touched on in BattlestarGalactica a little. Six claims murder is humanity's one true art form (because I guess all our other artforms were stolen from ewoks). They also mention Cylons don't torture or try to inflict suffering when they kill. It turns out that she's completely full of shit, but in her defense, she didn't know it at the time.
* Averted in the ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode ''A Christmas Carol.'' Kazran states that he wanted to see a fish, not kill one. The Doctor points out that [[spoiler: the shark]] was trying to eat Kazran, getting the response, "He was ''hungry.''"

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* Touched on in BattlestarGalactica a little. Six claims murder is humanity's one true art form (because I guess all our other artforms were stolen from ewoks).art. They also mention Cylons don't torture or try to inflict suffering when they kill. It turns out that she's completely full of shit, but in her defense, she didn't know it at the time.
* Averted in the ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode ''A "A Christmas Carol.'' Carol". Kazran states that he wanted to see a fish, not kill one. The Doctor points out that [[spoiler: the shark]] was trying to eat Kazran, getting the response, "He was ''hungry.''"

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* Averted in the ''DoctorWho'' episode ''A Christmas Carol.'' Kazran states that he wanted to see a fish, not kill one. The Doctor points out that [[spoiler: the shark]] was trying to eat Kazran, getting the response, "He was ''hungry.''"

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* Averted in the ''DoctorWho'' ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode ''A Christmas Carol.'' Kazran states that he wanted to see a fish, not kill one. The Doctor points out that [[spoiler: the shark]] was trying to eat Kazran, getting the response, "He was ''hungry.''"
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* The Professor's opening monologue on the TurboGrafix16 CD game ''It Came From The Desert'' contrasts us with ants, shortly before the town is overrun by giant mutant ants:

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* The Professor's opening monologue on the TurboGrafix16 TurboGrafx16 CD game ''It Came From The Desert'' contrasts us with ants, shortly before the town is overrun by giant mutant ants:
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* The Professor's opening monologue on the TurboGrafix16 CD game ''It Came From The Desert'' contrasts us with ants, shortly before the town is overrun by giant mutant ants:
-->'''Professor:''' Ants, Buzz. They build cities, wage wars, take slaves to work their underground farms. Some can even fly hundreds of feet into the sky and travel across vast oceans. But they never kill for sport. That is solely the domain of ''Homo Sapiens''.
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Marked the Doctor Who example as \"averted\", since it\'s a human NOT killing wantonly, but perhaps it should be removed altogether?


It's bad to exploit others. To steal, to conquer, to torture, and most often when this comes up, to kill. But what makes it especially bad? Killing because you're human. Only humans, you see, are greedy, or jealous, or kill because they revel in someone else's suffering, while a monster who eats you, well, just has to eat. It's just dinner. Or it's just conquest, or whatever--it's not like those nasty humans.

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It's bad to exploit others. To steal, to conquer, to torture, and most often when this comes up, to kill. But what makes it especially bad? Killing because you're human. Only humans, you see, are greedy, or jealous, or kill because they revel in someone else's suffering, while a monster who eats you, well, just has to eat. It's just dinner. Or it's just conquest, or whatever--it's whatever -- not like those nasty humans.



At times the same kind of motive can count either way depending on how it's presented. It's better to kill for money--after all, it's nothing personal, assassination is just a job and hey, everyone needs to eat; it's not like you're killing someone out of jealousy. But it's worse to kill for money--the Aliens kill because they're Aliens, and only human beings kill each other for cold cash.

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At times the same kind of motive can count either way depending on how it's presented. It's better to kill for money--after money -- after all, it's nothing personal, assassination is just a job and hey, everyone needs to eat; it's not like you're killing someone out of jealousy. But Yet it's also worse to kill for money--the money -- Aliens kill because they're Aliens, and but only human beings kill each other for cold cash.



* In the live-action adaption of TheJungleBook, Mogli explains that animals only kill to eat or to keep from being eaten. He doesn't understand the concept of killing out of hatred or sport and gets pissed when one of the hunters tries to explain it to him.

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* In the live-action adaption of TheJungleBook, Mogli Mowgli explains that animals only kill to eat or to keep from being eaten. He doesn't understand the concept of killing out of hatred or sport and gets pissed when one of the hunters tries to explain it to him.



-->''We never tortured and killed each other and called it morality.''
** In ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'', the [[MurderInc Assassin's Guild]] says that killing for money is the only sincere reason to kill, unlike killing "for honor" or "for love". Since they value life, they only kill for a lot of money. They also only kill people capable of defending themselves (skilled fighters or those rich enough to hire their own assassins) and have a list of rules of how a person can be killed, such as not killing bystanders.[[hottip:*:although, as Teatime learnt, that one's more of a guideline]].

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-->''We never tortured and killed each other and called it morality.'''morality'''.''
** In ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'', the [[MurderInc Assassin's Guild]] says that killing for money is the only sincere reason to kill, unlike killing "for honor" or "for love". Since they value life, they only kill for a lot of money. They also only kill people capable of defending themselves (skilled fighters or those rich enough to hire their own assassins) and have a list of rules of how a person can be killed, such as not killing bystanders.[[hottip:*:although, as Teatime learnt, that one's more of a guideline]].guideline]]



* In the DoctorWho episode ''A Christmas Carol,'' Kazran states that he wanted to see a fish, not kill one. The Doctor points out that [[spoiler: the shark]] was trying to eat Kazran, getting the response of "He was ''hungry''"

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* In Averted in the DoctorWho ''DoctorWho'' episode ''A Christmas Carol,'' Carol.'' Kazran states that he wanted to see a fish, not kill one. The Doctor points out that [[spoiler: the shark]] was trying to eat Kazran, getting the response of response, "He was ''hungry''"''hungry.''"

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* The dragon's justification in ''[[Discworld/GuardsGuards Guards! Guards!]]''. Dragons kill because they're ''supposed'' to, humans kill for a variety of flimsy reasons, or sometimes for the hell of it.
** His argument is a two-parter: The other part is "We never tortured and killed each other and called it ''Morality''".
** Also in ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'', the [[MurderInc Assassin's Guild]] says that killing for money is the only sincere reason to kill, unlike killing "for honor" or "for love".
** And since they value life, they only kill for a lot of money.
** And only kill people capable of defending themselves which either means being a skilled fighter or rich enough to hire assassins themselves, not to mention that they have a list of rules of how a person can be killed, one of which is not killing bystanders (although more of a guideline as Teatime found out).

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* The dragon's justification in ''[[Discworld/GuardsGuards Guards! Guards!]]''. Dragons kill because they're ''supposed'' to, humans kill for a variety of flimsy reasons, or sometimes just for the hell of it.
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* Touched on in BattlestarGalactica a little. Six claims murder is humanity's one true art form (because I guess all our other artforms were stolen from ewoks). They also mention Cylons don't torture or try to inflict suffering when they kill.

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* Touched on in BattlestarGalactica a little. Six claims murder is humanity's one true art form (because I guess all our other artforms were stolen from ewoks). They also mention Cylons don't torture or try to inflict suffering when they kill. It turns out that she's completely full of shit, but in her defense, she didn't know it at the time.
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** And only kill people capable of defending themselves which either means being a skilled fighter or rich enough to hire assassins themselves, not to mention that they have a list of rules of how a person can be killed, one of which is not killing bystanders (although more of a guideline as Teatime found out).
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** His argument is a two-parter: The other part is "We never tortured and killed each other and called in ''Morality''".

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** And since they value life, they only kill for a lot of money.
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** Also in ''Discworl/{{Pyramids}}'', the [[MurderInc Assassin's Guild]] says that killing for money is the only sincere reason to kill, unlike killing "for honor" or "for love".

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** Also in ''Discworl/{{Pyramids}}'', ''Discworld/{{Pyramids}}'', the [[MurderInc Assassin's Guild]] says that killing for money is the only sincere reason to kill, unlike killing "for honor" or "for love".
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If it is only claimed that the humans are just as bad (rather than worse), because ''both'' the humans and nonhumans kill wantonly, that is not this trope but may fall under see NotSoDifferent.

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If it is only claimed that the humans are just as bad (rather than worse), because ''both'' the humans and nonhumans kill wantonly, that is not this trope but may fall under see NotSoDifferent.

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Often a form of BrokenAesop meant to imply that HumansAreBastards. See also ApeShallNeverKillApe where the monsters are better because they ''don't'' kill even if they ''do'' have human motives. If it is only claimed that the humans are ''as bad'' as the monsters and not ''worse'', see NotSoDifferent.

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Often a form of BrokenAesop meant to imply that HumansAreBastards. See also ApeShallNeverKillApe where the monsters are better because they ''don't'' kill even if they ''do'' have human motives. motives.

If it is only claimed that the humans are ''as bad'' just as bad (rather than worse), because ''both'' the monsters humans and nonhumans kill wantonly, that is not ''worse'', this trope but may fall under see NotSoDifferent.

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This is about saying that nonhumans are better than humans because they kill out of impersonal motives. Saying that humans are just as bad (rather than that other races are better) is not this trope.


Often a form of BrokenAesop meant to imply that HumansAreBastards. See also ApeShallNeverKillApe where the monsters are better because they ''don't'' kill even if they ''do'' have human motives.

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Often a form of BrokenAesop meant to imply that HumansAreBastards. See also ApeShallNeverKillApe where the monsters are better because they ''don't'' kill even if they ''do'' have human motives. If it is only claimed that the humans are ''as bad'' as the monsters and not ''worse'', see NotSoDifferent.



* in ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', Quark would often de-construct the HumansAreSpecial attitude of the show by bringing this trope up.
--->''"Humans used to be a lot worse than the Ferengi: slavery, concentration camps, interstellar wars. We have nothing in our past that approaches that kind of barbarism. You see? We're nothing like you... we're better."''
-->Episode: "The Jem'Hadar".
--->''"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."''
-->Episode: "In The Pale Moonlight".
--->''"remember: under that placid Federation veneer, Humans are still a bunch of violent savages."''
--> Episode: "Little Green Men".
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-->''"Humans used to be a lot worse than the Ferengi: slavery, concentration camps, interstellar wars. We have nothing in our past that approaches that kind of barbarism. You see? We're nothing like you... we're better."''
->Episode: "The Jem'Hadar".
-->''"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."''
->Episode: "In The Pale Moonlight".
-->''"remember: under that placid Federation veneer, Humans are still a bunch of violent savages."''
-> Episode: "Little Green Men".

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-->''"Humans --->''"Humans used to be a lot worse than the Ferengi: slavery, concentration camps, interstellar wars. We have nothing in our past that approaches that kind of barbarism. You see? We're nothing like you... we're better."''
->Episode: -->Episode: "The Jem'Hadar".
-->''"Let --->''"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."''
->Episode: -->Episode: "In The Pale Moonlight".
-->''"remember: --->''"remember: under that placid Federation veneer, Humans are still a bunch of violent savages."''
-> --> Episode: "Little Green Men".
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* in ''StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', Quark would often de-construct the HumansAreSpecial attitude of the show by bringing this trope up.
-->''"Humans used to be a lot worse than the Ferengi: slavery, concentration camps, interstellar wars. We have nothing in our past that approaches that kind of barbarism. You see? We're nothing like you... we're better."''
->Episode: "The Jem'Hadar".
-->''"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."''
->Episode: "In The Pale Moonlight".
-->''"remember: under that placid Federation veneer, Humans are still a bunch of violent savages."''
-> Episode: "Little Green Men".
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** Also in ''Discworld/Pyramids'', the [[MurderInc Assassin's Guild]] says that killing for money is the only sincere reason to kill, unlike killing "for honor" or "for love".

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** Also in ''Discworld/Pyramids'', ''Discworl/{{Pyramids}}'', the [[MurderInc Assassin's Guild]] says that killing for money is the only sincere reason to kill, unlike killing "for honor" or "for love".
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* The dragon's justification in ''[[Discworld/GuardsGuards Guards!Guards!]]''. Dragons kill because they're ''supposed'' to, humans kill for no reason other than ForTheEvulz.

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* The dragon's justification in ''[[Discworld/GuardsGuards Guards!Guards!]]''. Guards! Guards!]]''. Dragons kill because they're ''supposed'' to, humans kill for no reason other than ForTheEvulz.a variety of flimsy reasons, or sometimes for the hell of it.

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* The dragon's justification in Guards!Guards!. Dragons kill because they're ''supposed'' to, humans kill for no reason other than ForTheEvulz.

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* The dragon's justification in Guards!Guards!. ''[[Discworld/GuardsGuards Guards!Guards!]]''. Dragons kill because they're ''supposed'' to, humans kill for no reason other than ForTheEvulz.ForTheEvulz.
** Also in ''Discworld/Pyramids'', the [[MurderInc Assassin's Guild]] says that killing for money is the only sincere reason to kill, unlike killing "for honor" or "for love".
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-->'''Ripley''': You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage.

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* In the DoctorWho episode ''A Christmas Carol,'' Kazran states that he wanted to see a fish, not kill one. The Doctor points out that [[spoiler: the shark]] was trying to eat Kazran, getting the response of "He was ''hungry''"

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* In the DoctorWho episode ''A Christmas Carol,'' Kazran states that he wanted to see a fish, not kill one. The Doctor points out that [[spoiler: the shark]] was trying to eat Kazran, getting the response of "He was ''hungry''"''hungry''"
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-->'''Ripley''': You know, Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking each other over for a goddamn percentage.
-->(Aliens)

It's bad to exploit others. To steal, to conquer, to torture, and most often when this comes up, to kill. But what makes it especially bad? Killing because you're human. Only humans, you see, are greedy, or jealous, or kill because they revel in someone else's suffering, while a monster who eats you, well, just has to eat. It's just dinner. Or it's just conquest, or whatever--it's not like those nasty humans.

This can also apply to assassins, who may be human, but still don't kill out of rage, greed, or insanity like all the rest of us human killers do.

At times the same kind of motive can count either way depending on how it's presented. It's better to kill for money--after all, it's nothing personal, assassination is just a job and hey, everyone needs to eat; it's not like you're killing someone out of jealousy. But it's worse to kill for money--the Aliens kill because they're Aliens, and only human beings kill each other for cold cash.

Often a form of BrokenAesop meant to imply that HumansAreBastards. See also ApeShallNeverKillApe where the monsters are better because they ''don't'' kill even if they ''do'' have human motives.

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* Ripley's famous quote above from ''Film/{{Alien}}''
* Used in ''GrossePointeBlank'', where Martin claims that he's better than a psychopath ''because'' he kills for money (while psychopaths have no reason at all). He quickly backtracks into a ThatCameOutWrong, of course.
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In progressthe live-action adaption of TheJungleBook, Mogli explains that animals only kill to eat or to keep from being eaten. He doesn't understand the concept of killing out of hatred or sport and gets pissed when one of the hunters tries to explain it to him.

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* The dragon's justification in Guards!Guards!. Dragons kill because they're ''supposed'' to, humans kill for no reason other than ForTheEvulz.
* In ''{{Worldwar}}'', the Race, who has just invaded the Earth and killed lots of people is shocked to see that humans not only kill each other, but mistreat their prisoners and like to cause suffering.

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* Touched on in BattlestarGalactica a little. Six claims murder is humanity's one true art form (because I guess all our other artforms were stolen from ewoks). They also mention Cylons don't torture or try to inflict suffering when they kill.
* In the DoctorWho episode ''A Christmas Carol,'' Kazran states that he wanted to see a fish, not kill one. The Doctor points out that [[spoiler: the shark]] was trying to eat Kazran, getting the response of "He was ''hungry''"

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