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15th Apr '17 12:59:49 PM gophergiggles
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** The Royal Guards, The Wonderbolts, and ''especially'' Shining Armor. In the narrative all three are important, but in practice the guards exist to basically stand around and get the crap kicked out of them by the MonsterOfTheWeek, The Wonderbolts exist to be a foil to and as something for Rainbow Dash to aspire to join and get the crap kicked out of them by the MonsterOfTheWeek, and Shining Armor exists to be brother, husband, and father respectively to a trio of princesses and get the crap kicked out of him by the MonsterOfTheWeek.
4th Apr '17 1:43:19 PM ironballs16
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* The other Greek soldiers in ''[[Film/ThreeHundred 300]]'' who weren't from Sparta. They do basically zip and leave frightened so the Spartans can die in a HeroicSacrifice. In the real life Battle of Thermopylae, on the other hand, there were also 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans who refused to flee and instead died alongside the 300 Spartans. Given that the events of the film are largely told by a survivor to invigorate a group of Spartans, we can probably blame the UnreliableNarrator for that. It would be just like a Spartan to inflate his own people's accomplishments and diminish the others'.

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* The other Greek soldiers in ''[[Film/ThreeHundred 300]]'' who weren't from Sparta. They do basically zip and leave frightened so the Spartans can die in a HeroicSacrifice. In the real life Battle of Thermopylae, on the other hand, there were also 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans who refused to flee and instead died alongside the 300 Spartans. Given that the events of the film are largely told by a survivor to invigorate a group of Spartans, we can probably blame the UnreliableNarrator for that. [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy It would be just like a Spartan Spartan]] to inflate his own people's accomplishments and diminish the others'.
4th Apr '17 1:41:44 PM ironballs16
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** Hufflepuff, the {{Trope Namer|s}}, who are in one instance basically called all-the-rest, at their grandest are praised for dedication and dependability (distinct from the more heroic-oriented Gryfindor flavour of loyalty), and the Sorting Hat's song at one point has the other three house founders selecting students for specific strengths and Helga Hufflepuff saying she'll take the leftovers. WordOfGod says that they are good at stuff, they're just humble and don't boast like the other Houses. The foremost member of distinction they have is Cedric Diggory, who is a sympathetic character and Hogwarts champion. They're also mentioned to have the second-most students stay to battle Voldemort.

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** Hufflepuff, the {{Trope Namer|s}}, who are in one instance basically called all-the-rest, at their grandest are praised for dedication and dependability (distinct from the more heroic-oriented Gryfindor flavour of loyalty), and the Sorting Hat's song at one point has the other three house founders selecting students for specific strengths and Helga Hufflepuff saying she'll take the leftovers. WordOfGod says that they are good at stuff, [[HumbleHero they're just humble and don't boast like the other Houses.Houses]]. The foremost member of distinction they have is Cedric Diggory, who is a sympathetic character and Hogwarts champion. They're also mentioned to have the second-most students stay to battle Voldemort.
23rd Mar '17 1:04:36 AM Bat178
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* For all the talk of Eurocentrism, knowledge about Central/Eastern Europe not named Russia or Poland are scarce, and even Poland is usually only mentioned in the context of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, as it's the only war where the entire world was involved. Most can recognize the distinction of pasta being an Italian invention and escargot being a French/Catalan one, but [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigos bigos]]? Or the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripe_soups tripe soup]]? Even capital cities are not safe; Brussels? Easy, that's the capital of Belgium. Vilnius? Uhh...[[note]] It's the capital of Lithuania.[[/note]]

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* For all the talk of Eurocentrism, knowledge about Central/Eastern Europe not named Germany, Russia or Poland are scarce, and even Poland is usually only mentioned in the context of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, as it's the only war where the entire world was involved. Most can recognize the distinction of pasta being an Italian invention and escargot being a French/Catalan one, but [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigos bigos]]? Or the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripe_soups tripe soup]]? Even capital cities are not safe; Brussels? Easy, that's the capital of Belgium. Vilnius? Ljubljana? Uhh...[[note]] It's the capital of Lithuania.Slovenia.[[/note]]
17th Mar '17 6:52:11 AM Couran
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** [[WolfMan The Canim]] [[FantasticCasteSystem have three castes: Warrior, Ritualist and Workers]]. According to Nausug, the workers are actually the 'ruling' caste in that the other two do what they do for the workers' benefit... Which is somewhat undermined by having several named Canim warriors and ritualists appear during the books, and not a single named worker.

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** [[WolfMan The Canim]] [[FantasticCasteSystem have three castes: Warrior, Ritualist and Workers]]. According to Nausug, the workers are actually the 'ruling' main caste in that the other two do what they do for the workers' benefit... Which is somewhat undermined by having several But none of the workers are ever named Canim warriors and ritualists appear during or portrayed as particularly important individually. Justified as the books, and not a single named worker.caste is what's important, individuals within it are not.
6th Mar '17 10:38:33 AM longday
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* Despite being one of the most important rivers for the european navy, the Elbe never got the same amount of recognition from artists, musicians nor any folklore surrounding it, as the Rhine or the Danube did.
15th Feb '17 9:29:28 PM Fireblood
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** There is a logical in-story for this in ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', as the eponymous ship is literally The Only Ship In The Sector. But, still, you have [[MissionControl Project Pathfinder]] which does little to nothing to bring the ship home, although they do provide occasional moral support.

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** There is a logical in-story explanation for this in ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', as the eponymous ship is literally The Only Federation Ship In The Sector. But, still, you have [[MissionControl Project Pathfinder]] which does little to nothing to bring the ship home, although they do provide occasional moral support.
15th Feb '17 7:58:46 PM Fireblood
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* Literature/LandOfOz

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* This was the fate of the [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Yuuzhan Vong]] worker caste in the ''Literature/NewJediOrder''. The overwhelming majority of Vong characters in the series are from the warrior caste (understandable, as the series deals with the Yuuzhan Vong while they're at war, so the warriors have become disproportionately influential in-universe). The intendants get Nom Anor, the most heavily featured Vong character in the series, and are important more generally at key junctures (and [[AllThereInTheManual some material]] indicates that the current [[GodEmperor Supreme Overlord]] was an intendant as well before taking the throne). Priests and shapers each get a significant recurring member (Harrar and Nen Yim, respectively), as well as each producing a couple of [[VillainOfTheWeek Villains of the Book]]. The Shamed Ones, the absolute lowest rung of Vong society, eventually get a significant subplot as a revolution against the Vong leadership gets underway and they form the bulk of it. The workers, even though they're supposed to form the highest percentage of Vong civilization, are just sort of there, get namedropped as a caste every so often, but an individual named worker ''never appears across all nineteen books''.

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* This was the fate of the [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Yuuzhan Vong]] worker caste in the ''Literature/NewJediOrder''. The overwhelming majority of Vong characters in the series are from the warrior caste (understandable, as the series deals with the Yuuzhan Vong while they're at war, so the warriors have become disproportionately influential in-universe). The intendants get Nom Anor, the most heavily featured Vong character in the series, and are important more generally at key junctures (and [[AllThereInTheManual some material]] indicates that the current [[GodEmperor Supreme Overlord]] was an intendant as well before taking the throne). Priests and shapers each get a significant recurring member (Harrar and Nen Yim, respectively), as well as each producing a couple of [[VillainOfTheWeek Villains of the Book]]. The Shamed Ones, the absolute lowest rung of Vong society, eventually get a significant subplot as a revolution against the Vong leadership gets underway and they form the bulk of it. The workers, even though they're supposed to form the highest percentage of Vong civilization, are just sort of there, get namedropped name-dropped as a caste every so often, but an individual named worker ''never appears across all nineteen books''.
15th Feb '17 7:52:32 PM Fireblood
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** The starmap includes such entities as Matapan, Midgard and Asgard, of which virtually nothing is known. In early books of the cycle, polities like Solarian League or Andermani Empire also counted, but since then they've got more screen-time.

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** The starmap includes such entities as Matapan, Midgard and Asgard, of which virtually nothing is known. In early books of the cycle, polities like the Solarian League or Andermani Empire also counted, but since then they've got more screen-time.



** Erewhon is fleshed out a little in some spin-off books, but not much is known about their SpaceNavy. They do, however, make an impact in the main story by [[spoiler:leaving TheAlliance and giving all their shiny new tech to the Havenites, when the current Manticore leadership starts treating them like crap]].

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** Erewhon is fleshed out a little in some spin-off books, but not much is known about their SpaceNavy. They do, however, make an impact in the main story by [[spoiler:leaving TheAlliance and giving all their shiny new tech to the Havenites, when the current Manticore Manticorian leadership starts treating them like crap]].



** Special mention goes out to District 9, which is mentioned the least and is home to none of the named characters. What's more, in both the Seventy-fourth and Seventy-fifth Hunger Games, District 9 loses both its tributes on the first day, though, since the tributes in the Seventy-fifth Games are all past victors, it's safe to assume that some of the kids from 9 who were sent to the Games over the years survived the bloodbath, with at least two going on to win. However, the only time a character from this district has any kind of interaction with a major character is at the beginning of the Seventy-fourth Games; Katniss and District 9's male tribute get into a tussle over a backpack, shortly before the boy is knifed in the back by Clove from District 2.

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** Special mention goes out to District 9, which is mentioned the least and is home to none of the named characters. What's more, in both the Seventy-fourth Seventy Fourth and Seventy-fifth Seventy Fifth Hunger Games, District 9 loses both its tributes on the first day, though, since the tributes in the Seventy-fifth Seventy Fifth Games are all past victors, it's safe to assume that some of the kids from 9 who were sent to the Games over the years survived the bloodbath, with at least two going on to win. However, the only time a character from this district has any kind of interaction with a major character is at the beginning of the Seventy-fourth Seventy Fourth Games; Katniss and District 9's male tribute get into a tussle over a backpack, shortly before the boy is knifed in the back by Clove from District 2.
15th Feb '17 7:46:59 PM Fireblood
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' broadens its view with each book, putting characters and factions under the microscope that might have first been mentioned in passing several books ago. By the fifth book, just about every major area and faction in Westeros has played some part. ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'' in particular devotes [[DoorStopper huge parts]] of the book to rescuing various factions from this trope, including House Tyrell, Dorne, the Ironmen, the [[ChurchMilitant Faith of the Seven]], the Vale of Arryn, and Braavos. Outside of Westeros, there are still a number of countries, such as Yi Ti and Asshai, which are mentioned occasionally, but nothing of significance has happened there.
** As of the new book "The World of Ice and Fire", even Yi Ti and Asshai have broadened histories and cultures...really, to the point that one wonders if future books are going there. Now, the out-of-focus places are all East of Asshai (such as the City of the Winged Men) or in Sothoryos. Possibly a [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] or [[AvertedTrope aversion]], as as such places aren't really seen as important within the world either.

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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' broadens its view with each book, putting characters and factions under the microscope that might have first been mentioned in passing several books ago. By the fifth book, just about every major area and faction in Westeros has played some part. ''Literature/AFeastForCrows'' in particular devotes [[DoorStopper huge parts]] of the book to rescuing various factions from this trope, including House Tyrell, Dorne, the Ironmen, the [[ChurchMilitant [[CrystalDragonJesus Faith of the Seven]], the Vale of Arryn, and Braavos. Outside of Westeros, there are still a number of countries, such as Yi Ti and Asshai, which are mentioned occasionally, but nothing of significance has happened there.
** As of the new book "The World of Ice and Fire", even Yi Ti and Asshai have broadened histories and cultures...really, to the point that one wonders if future books are going there. Now, the out-of-focus places are all East of Asshai (such as the City of the Winged Men) or in Sothoryos. Possibly a [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] or [[AvertedTrope aversion]], as as such places aren't really seen as important within the world either.



* ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' takes place in Oceania, one of three empires that each rule a third of the world. The other two empires are Eurasia and Eastasia. Eurasia and Eastasia are there only to have wars with each other and with Oceania, while [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder repeatedly changing alliances.]] They are all even described as using political systems functionally identical to each other.

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* ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' takes place in Oceania, one of three empires that each rule a third of the world. The other two empires are Eurasia and Eastasia. Eurasia and Eastasia are there only to have wars with each other and with Oceania, while [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder repeatedly changing alliances.]] They are all even described as using political systems functionally identical to each other. It's left possible that the others don't really exist, being simply propaganda creations of Oceania (or that they're all the same).
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