History Main / HePannedItNowHeSucks

** A later video giving his top 20 movies confirmed this when both were placed in the top 10.

Wait, that's ''your'' favorite game/movie/show he's now trashing! [[HePannedItNowHeSucks He Panned It, Now He Sucks]].

*** It doesn't help that Cole Smithey's site declares him [[http://www.colesmithey.com/ literally]] to be [[SmallNameBigEgo The Smartest Film Critic in the World]]. Or that he's [[Sonichu the elder step-brother of Christian Weston Chandler]].

*** It doesn't help that Cole Smithey's site declares him [[http://www.colesmithey.com/ literally]] to be [[SmallNameBigEgo The Smartest Film Critic in the World]].

** Even further back, they would get tons of InternetBackdraft from ''DragonBallZ'' and ''FullMetalAlchemist'' for giving their respective spinoff games 1s and 2s; many of the games really did suck but [[FanDumb good luck telling the fanboys that]].

* RogerEbert has received some criticism for his questionably good reviews of movies others have perceived as bad, but the biggest source of criticism came from his review of ''Film/{{Transformers}}: Revenge of The Fallen'', where not only did he pronounce it as a bad film, but he suggested that those who thought it was a good one were not "[[ViewersAreMorons sufficiently evolved]]." He also wrote THREE essays detailing how so. Naturally, this pissed people off far more than him considering it a bad film.

** Now they've reviewed ''The {{Twilight}} Saga: New Moon''. They gave it 2.5 out of 5. The YouTube ratings? [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s167PTvorgY Well, see for yourself]].
*** Since this is ''{{Twilight}}'' we're talking about, many others consider it [[{{Hatedom}} He Did Not Pan It Enough, Now He Sucks]].
** IGN uploaded [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9BxHG7xDGE the trailer for ''Eclipse'']] and it's gotten 1.5 stars. Maybe their subscribers [[InternetBackdraft don't like]] {{Twilight}}.

* When ''{{Rifftrax}}'' first started out and picked on the usual low-quality dreck used by ''[[MysteryScienceTheater3000 MST3K]]'', everyone loved it. When the site started to broaden their targets (mainly due to needing to select movies that buyers could easily acquire on DVD), this began to happen on a regular basis. Note that the site doesn't exactly declare any of its targets ''bad'', making the complaints rather whiny.
** ''MST3K'' itself took serious flack from other science fiction fans when TheMovie riffed on sci-fi classic ''ThisIslandEarth''.
** They released a riff of ''{{Casablanca}}''. This could either drive home the point that they aren't necessarily saying the movies they do are bad, or it could cause a new storm of complaints. Anyways, [[http://www.rifftrax.com/rifftrax/casablanca their page on the riff]] states:
-->Yes, our respect and admiration for Casablanca is unbounded, but if our motto--We Don't Make Movies, We Make Them Funny--is to have any meaning at all then it must be tested by fire.

** This may have been averted had fans at Comic-Con chosen for them to riff on the MST3K movie.
** While perhaps understandable, it's also a bit illogical for people to feel this way when you consider that they're not necessarily panning the movie. People forget that it is possible to poke fun and laugh at something you like. In general, their opinion of a given movie is stated explicitly in the riff itself.

** In fact Morgan tends to be the one to review JRPGs because Sessler admits he really doesn't like the genre as a whole.
** That it was the first and, so far, only version of what they claimed was a new segment, they seemed to have learned not to troll quite so blatantly. That said, the hate for [=JRPGs=] wasn't always there--believe it or not, Sessler gave ''FinalFantasyXI'' a pretty favorable review when it came out.
** Actually X-Play loves ''FinalFantasyVI'', not only did they bash all the later Final Fantasies in their review for ''Final Fantasy VI Advance'', they named it their top Must Play RPG of All Time. They also give two other JRPG series, the ''{{Suikoden}}'' series and the ''{{Disgaea}}'' series, some love.

*** To be fair about the RP they gave [=ProtonJon=], it had a very distinct FallenCreator vibe to it and they're not really implying that all his LP's suck. There's even a line near the end: "Oh, how the mighty have fallen."

* RogerEbert has received some criticism for his questionably good reviews of movies others have perceived as bad, but the biggest source of criticism came from his review of ''Film/{{Transformers}}: Revenge of The Fallen'', where not only did he pronounce it as a bad film, but he suggested that those who thought it was a good one were not [[ViewersAreMorons "sufficiently evolved"]]. He also wrote THREE essays detailing how so. Naturally, this pissed people off far more than him considering it a bad film.

* RogerEbert has received some criticism for his questionably good reviews of movies others have perceived as bad, but the biggest source of criticism came from his review of ''Film/{{Transformers}}: Revenge of The Fallen'', where not only did he pronounce it as a bad film, but he pronounced anyone who felt even the slightest enjoyment from the movie [[ViewersAreMorons "are not sufficiently evolved"]]. He also wrote THREE essays detailing how so. Naturally, this pissed people off far more than him considering it a bad film.

** In a curious inversion, quite a few fans [[{{Unpleasable Fanbase}} react negatively whenever he actually praises a game]].
** The phenomenon exists on this very wiki. While there are a number of good points in his Dethroning Moment of Suck page, the majority of complaints boil down to hating Yahtzee for making fun of someone's particular favorite franchise.
*** The [[DethroningMoment/ZeroPunctuation Dethroning Moment Of Suck]] page for Zero Punctuation used to be a case of this in action, up until the format was changed as a result of the edit wars. This troper won't point fingers, but much of it had to do with the constant alterations made to issues the tropers had over the (much more abrasive than Brawl's) review of ''MonsterHunter Tri'' and the Extra Punctuation thereof.

** Speaking of ThatGuyWithTheGlasses, one of the site's contributors, ''Film Brain'', arguably fell victim to this trope after taking down the CultClassic ''{{Equilibrium}}'' in ''Bad Movie Beatdown'', to the point where the video had to be posted with a disclaimer that did absolutely nothing to soothe the savage "fans". He also made several comparisons to the film in later reviews too, which did not cool flames.

** Happened again, only more so, after she trashed David Lynch's {{Dune}} movie.

* Video game journalist Jeff Gerstmann gave ''[[TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess]]'' a rating of [[EightPointEight 8.8 out of 10]]. [[FanDumb Many fans of the series]] interpreted this as an insult directed at their beloved game franchise, leading to countless "Gamespot sucks" comments on forums and pictures of Gerstmann's head superimposed onto things like Jabba the Hutt's body.
* Jenna Busch of Joblo.com came under fire after giving a 6/10 review for the ''Film/{{Watchmen}}'' movie. Some pointing out that, as a woman, of course she wouldn't connect to the movie the way that "normal" fans did. Given the massive LoveItOrHateIt response the movie got, it's not surprising that Joblo promptly released another review from Chris Bumbray, giving Watchmen a 9/10, including the line "Despite some of the earlier reviews to the contrary, I can assure WATCHMEN fans that, to me anyways, Zack Snyder?s film is as perfect and faithful an adaptation as we could possibly hope for."

* ''[[ThisIsSparta Armond]]. [[PrecisionFStrike Fucking.]] [[ThisIsSparta White]]'' See [[http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1897/armondwhiteisntinsane.jpg here]] for a (by far) non-exhaustive number of reasons people have petitioned to have him banned from RottenTomatoes. RogerEbert [[AndTheFandomRejoiced has gone so far as]] [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome to call him a ]]{{troll}}.
** His notorious hatred of Pixar (he claims the critical and commercial acclaim Pixar has received is due to capitalist brainwashing and that [[EpicFail it ruins animation]]) culminated in his panning of ''ToyStory 3'', [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous bringing Toy Story 3's Rotten Tomatoes ranking from a 100% to a 99%]]. His complaints were that [[WallBanger it promoted consumerist culture and product placement, Transformers 2 had explored similar themes with greater "thrill and opulence", that no one could relate to the story, and than anyone who liked it was a simplistic adult-child.]] [[CriticalResearchFailure Oh, and Hamm was a villain.]] The backlash against him (and Cole Smithey who [[strike: likewise panned]] didn't recommend the film because [[MoralGuardian it was apparently too intense for a G rating]]) was huge, getting a mention on Time's Newsfeed, and the editorial section of the WSJ.

** Many people are frustrated from the [[Film/PrinceOfPersia Prince of Persia]] review of many popular and well-known film reviewers. The biggest reason being they DidNotDoTheResearch and thus ended up talking ridiculous things, which half of it wasn't even true. While these film reviewers' [[Film/PrinceOfPersia Prince of Persia]] review is considered their most disliked by fans review, RottenTomatoes received the hardest hit for starting and continuing the review by praising the film and saying good stuff about it and then coming to the conclusion that it's a bad film [[WallBanger without any explanation whatsoever why]].

* ''[[ThisIsSparta Armond. Fucking. White]]'' See [[http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1897/armondwhiteisntinsane.jpg here]] for a (by far) non-exhaustive number of reasons people have petitioned to have him banned from RottenTomatoes. RogerEbert has gone so far as [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome to call him a ]]{{troll}}.

** His notorious hatred of Pixar (he claims the critical and commercial acclaim Pixar has received is due to capitalist brainwashing and that [[EpicFail it ruins animation]]) culminated in his panning of ''ToyStory 3'', [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous bringing Toy Story 3's Rotten Tomatoes ranking from a 100% to a 99%]]. His complaints were that [[WallBanger it promoted consumerist culture and product placement, Transformers 2 had explored similar themes with greater "thrill and opulence", that no one could relate to the story, and than anyone who liked it was a simplistic adult-child.]] [[CriticalResearchFailure Oh, and Hamm was a villain.]] The backlash against him (and Cole Smithey who likewise panned the film because [[MoralGuardian it was apparently too intense for a G rating]]) was huge, getting a mention on Time's Newsfeed, and the editorial section of the WSJ.

Although if a review comes across as excessively snobbish (like bashing a work for things other than its content, and for standards that the reviewers seems to be arbitrarily applying), there might be some grounds to lose respect to the reviewer for that.

Another reason why fans might level hate against a reviewer who pans something is because there are [[FanHaters culture snobs]] out there who harass anyone who's a fan of anything that received less-than-stellar reviews.

* [[ThatGuyWithTheGlasses The Nostalgia Critic]] took a ''lot'' of heat for panning the first ''MortalKombat'' movie (which is considered a GuiltyPleasure by many). There was also some heat recieved for his review of ''[=~Pokémon: The First Movie~=]'', given the fact that he seemed to know little about it, how famous it is and how it is perhaps a greater GuiltyPleasure then MK. There was also ''AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'' (although Doug Walker admitted in the commentary that while he definitely considers ''SonicSatAM'' to be the better of the two ''Sonic'' series, he really exaggerated his disdain for ''Adventures'' and even thinks it looks better as he looks back on it). Then there's ''SpaceJam'', which many people also liked (RogerEbert even gave it 3 and a half stars).

** The Nostalgia Chick got a taste of this when she panned almost the entirety of the ''{{Transformers}}'' franchise (not just the [[Film/{{Transformers}} Michael Bay films]]) in a review. Comments of "You're a girl, you wouldn't understand!" abounded.

** Many people are frustrated from the [[Film/PrinceOfPersia Prince of Persia]] review of many popular and well-known film reviewers. The biggest reason being they DidNotDoTheResearch and thus ended up talking ridiculous things, which half of it wasn't even true. While these film reviewers' [[Film/PrinceOfPersia Prince of Persia]] review is considered their most disliked by fans review, RottenTomatoes received the hardest hit for starting and continuing the review by praising it and saying good stuff about it and then coming to the conclusion that it's a bad film [[WallBanger without any explanation whatsoever why]].

-> ''"Most people's definition of genius is 'thinks like me, but more so.'" ''

There's a tentative state that most of the viewers of these sites exist in -- a thin line between thinking the reviewer is the funniest thing on earth and thinking that they're a pile of shit that doesn't deserve to see the light of day. HePannedItNowHeSucks exists because at any moment, the reviewer could find something wrong with one of your personal favorites. All of a sudden the game is up, and you see the reviewer for who they really are -- a vile piece of ludicrously insensitive vomit-caked negativity who only exists to blow holes in otherwise good games.[[hottip:*:That was hyperbole. Do not take it at face value.]]

---> "Try to keep your accent, because the moment you replace 'bollocks' with 'crikey' you'll probably lose half your audience. Or will that be when you critically review ''{{Spore}}''?"
**In a curious inversion, quite a few fans [[{{Unpleasable Fanbase}} react negatively whenever he actually praises a game]].

* [[ThatGuyWithTheGlasses The Nostalgia Critic]] took a ''lot'' of heat for panning the first ''MortalKombat'' movie (which is considered a GuiltyPleasure by many). There was also some heat recieved for his review of ''[=~Pokémon: The First Movie~=]'', given the fact that he seemed to know little about it, how famous it is and how it is perhaps a greater GuiltyPleasure then MK. There was also ''AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'' (although Doug Walker admitted in the commentary that while he definitely considers ''SonicSatAM'' to be the better of the two ''Sonic'' series, he really exaggerated his disdain for ''Adventures'' and even thinks it looks better as he looks back on it). Then there's ''SpaceJam'', which many people also liked (RogerEbert even gave it 3 and a half stars).

** His review of ''JudgeDredd'' seems to have gone over a lot better though. While still critical he's obviously a lot more affectionate in his review that he has been for awhile. He even calls the movie a [[GuiltyPleasure "guilty pleasure"]] at the end of his review and points out that the movie just runs with every action movie cliche for fun of it. He admits that it ''is'' a bad movie, but a fun one nonetheless.
** Before this his review of ''{{Congo}}'' was far less vitrolic than some of his other material. Combine that with his gushing praise in his ''Siskel and Ebert'' retrospective and it looks like over late 2009/early 2010 Doug took some mental health days by reviewing things that are indeed bad [[GuiltyPleasure but he still enjoys anyway]].

* When ''{{Rifftrax}}'' first started out and picked on the usual low-quality dreck used by ''[[MysteryScienceTheater3000 MST3K]]'', everyone loved it. When the site started to broaden their targets (mainly due to needing to select movies that buyers could easily acquire on DVD), this began to happen on a regular basis. Note that the site doesn't exactly declare any of its targets ''bad'', making the complaints rather whiny.

** That segment was really just the latest and (so far) most pithy in a long line of {{Take That}}s they've given to ''FinalFantasy'' and other [=JRPGs=] in general. They've never hidden their dislike.

****A few years back they answered an e-mail saying they purposely mock anime fans when they review the games because they love getting the hate mail. They also said they loved the Naruto games even though they weren't fans of the anime itself. Note that this was before Naruto was even in America.

** More to the point (besides the obvious truth of troll influx), is that there are few critics on dA who actually give constructive criticism so the artists can improve. However, that said, there is a ''lot'' of ego-driven pride where some artists will dismiss the critique of someone who they think is not as good as them, even if the critique is perfectly valid. Then ''again'', dA mostly revolves around social networking, and anyone who actually has an interest in improving their work will go somewhere else (E.g. conceptart.org)

** His notorious hatred of Pixar (he claims the critical and commercial acclaim Pixar has received is due to capitalist brainwashing and that [[EpicFail it ruins animation]]) culminated in his panning of ''ToyStory 3'', [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous bringing Toy Story 3's Rotten Tomatoes ranking from a 100% to a 99%]]. His complaints were that [[WallBanger it promoted consumerist culture and product placement, Transformers 2 had explored similar themes with greater "thrill and opulence", that no one could relate to the story, and than anyone who liked it was a simplistic adult-child.]] [[CriticalResearchFailure Oh, and Hamm was a villain.]] The backlash against him (and Cole Smithey who likewise panned the film because [[MoralGuardian it was apparently too intense for a G rating]]) was huge, getting a mention on Time's Newsfeed, and the editorial section of the WSJ.

*Critics on RottenTomatoes (or other review sites) who [[EightPointEight don't throw perfect scores]] at popular movies (TheDarkKnight, TheHurtLocker, etc) receive all kinds of borderline threats from the FanDumb.
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* Quite a few years ago. even before the NetworkDecay, G4 network show panned the cult classic ''{{Shenmue}}'', which is often considered one of the best games ever. In fact, they considered it the ''second worst gamer ever'', just below a Zelda CDi game which they didn't do their research on.

** A newer, somewhat different AV Club example; As part of "AV Undercover," for which various bands cover a classic song of their choice, [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-smiths,38875/ Coheed and Cambria covered one of the most popular songs on the list]]. Even though the AV Club itself seems to like the band, given it's [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/coheed-and-cambria-year-of-the-black-rainbow,40028/ positive]] [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/coheed-and-cambria-no-world-for-tomorrow,7463/ reviews]] of their albums, and the performance was (under the circumstances) actually pretty good, the comments section was [[{{Understatement}} rather unhappy]] with the cover. Given that CoheedAndCambria is a LoveItOrHateIt Prog band with a large fanbase that [[{{SeriousBuisness}} takes the band rather seriously]], while the average AV club reader is an irony-loving hipster that could outsnark a TelevisionWithoutPity reviewer, this trope is clearly present by page 2 of the comments section, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-xS3R6BxX0 has also spread to youtube]]. [[PassThePopcorn This should be interesting...]]

** A newer, somewhat different AV Club example; As part of "AV Undercover," for which various bands cover a classic song of their choice, [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-smiths,38875/ Coheed and Cambria covered one of the most popular songs on the list]]. Even though the AV Club itself seems to like the band, given it's mostly [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/coheed-and-cambria-year-of-the-black-rainbow,40028/ positive]] [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/coheed-and-cambria-no-world-for-tomorrow,7463/ reviews]] of their albums, and the performance was (under the circumstances) actually pretty good, the comments section was [[{{Understatement}} rather unhappy]] with the cover. Given that CoheedAndCambria is a LoveItOrHateIt Prog band with a large fanbase that [[{{Understatement}} takes the band rather seriously]], while the average AV club reader is an irony-loving hipster that could outsnark a TelevisionWithoutPity reviewer, this trope is clearly present by page 2 of the comments section, and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-xS3R6BxX0 has also spread to youtube]]. [[PassThePopcorn This should be interesting...]]