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12th Aug '17 10:56:19 AM nombretomado
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** Inverted with magazine critic Owen Gleiberman, who faced much criticism for being the sole critic on RottenTomatoes to give ''[[Creator/SeltzerAndFriedberg Epic Movie]]'' a positive review -- which would probably be a case of He ''Didn't'' Pan It, Now He Sucks.

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** Inverted with magazine critic Owen Gleiberman, who faced much criticism for being the sole critic on RottenTomatoes Website/RottenTomatoes to give ''[[Creator/SeltzerAndFriedberg Epic Movie]]'' a positive review -- which would probably be a case of He ''Didn't'' Pan It, Now He Sucks.



** He was also the ''only'' critic on RottenTomatoes to not like the movie Film/{{Brazil}}.

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** He was also the ''only'' critic on RottenTomatoes Website/RottenTomatoes to not like the movie Film/{{Brazil}}.



* RottenTomatoes was infamous for this. When various films opened up with very high percentages, the few critics who gave the movie a rotten score were sure to get a lot of flak, which could range from genuine criticism of the critic's points to outright [[FanDumb bashing and threatening]]. Sometimes, this happened when a critic's blurb got taken out of context, which unintentionally made the reviewer look more pretentious or foolish to readers. This effect got compounded when said bashers [[PraisingShowsYouDontWatch collectively wanted to see that movie soon]], and/or the critics are chronic offenders of giving low scores (or the inverse case). Even if the overall score settled somewhere down the middle, the first few critics always got the brunt of the insults. It doesn't help that Rotten Tomatoes' method of scoring is flawed, since the website merely gives estimate scores from the vastly different scoring systems that critics use. Eventually, it got so bad that RottenTomatoes axed all commenting on individual reviews, to no one's surprise.

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* RottenTomatoes Website/RottenTomatoes was infamous for this. When various films opened up with very high percentages, the few critics who gave the movie a rotten score were sure to get a lot of flak, which could range from genuine criticism of the critic's points to outright [[FanDumb bashing and threatening]]. Sometimes, this happened when a critic's blurb got taken out of context, which unintentionally made the reviewer look more pretentious or foolish to readers. This effect got compounded when said bashers [[PraisingShowsYouDontWatch collectively wanted to see that movie soon]], and/or the critics are chronic offenders of giving low scores (or the inverse case). Even if the overall score settled somewhere down the middle, the first few critics always got the brunt of the insults. It doesn't help that Rotten Tomatoes' method of scoring is flawed, since the website merely gives estimate scores from the vastly different scoring systems that critics use. Eventually, it got so bad that RottenTomatoes Website/RottenTomatoes axed all commenting on individual reviews, to no one's surprise.



** Many fans were pretty angered with the poor reviews given to the highly anticipated film Film/SuicideSquad so much, that a petition was created to shut down RottenTomatoes. [[PraisingShowsYouDontWatch However, most fans have not seen the film yet, since this was before its official release.]]

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** Many fans were pretty angered with the poor reviews given to the highly anticipated film Film/SuicideSquad so much, that a petition was created to shut down RottenTomatoes.Website/RottenTomatoes. [[PraisingShowsYouDontWatch However, most fans have not seen the film yet, since this was before its official release.]]
12th Aug '17 3:38:29 AM Killerikala
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* Several reviewers who gave low scores to ''VideoGame/CrashBandicootNSaneTrilogy'' got some flak for some of their complaints, such as outdated gameplay (In a faithful recreation of a 20 year old series), lack of content (It includes an entire trilogy of games) and difficulty (The originals already were NintendoHard, it has nothing to do with the remaster). [[NeverLiveItDown The best remembered one]] is the "Crash Bandicoot is the new ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' fiasco.
29th Jul '17 1:01:25 PM nombretomado
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-->-- '''WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd''', on his criticism of the NintendoEntertainmentSystem [[PortingDisaster version]] of ''VideoGame/MetalGear''.

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-->-- '''WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd''', on his criticism of the NintendoEntertainmentSystem UsefulNotes/NintendoEntertainmentSystem [[PortingDisaster version]] of ''VideoGame/MetalGear''.
24th Jul '17 7:01:13 PM Kelothan
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** Happened again, only more so, after she trashed David Lynch's ''Film/{{Dune}}'' movie. This was mostly a combination of her spending a lot of time calling the Spice a "Maguffin", which it isn't really, and trashing ''the novel'' as well as the movie. Many ''Dune'' fans agree the movie was terrible, but don't you ''dare'' make fun of the novel!
** She got some hate for mentioning she hated ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'', calling it a film a about "a dumb girl who sold her soul for a vagina and a man she didn't know". Later on, she parodied this by dedicating a video to her friends staging an "intervention" in which she explains her opinions in more depth, the others explain why it's a great film, and in the end she breaks and joins in the singing of "Part of Your World".

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** Happened again, only more so, after she trashed David Lynch's ''Film/{{Dune}}'' movie. This was mostly a combination of her spending a lot of time calling the Spice a "Maguffin", which it isn't really, and trashing ''the novel'' as well as the movie. Many movie (Several ''Dune'' fans agree didn't like the movie was terrible, but don't you ''dare'' make fun of the novel!
either).
** She she got some hate for mentioning she hated ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'', calling it a film a about "a dumb girl who sold her soul for a vagina and a man she didn't know". Later on, she parodied this by dedicating a video to her friends staging an "intervention" in which she explains her opinions in more depth, the others explain why it's a great film, and in the end she breaks and joins in the singing of "Part of Your World".



** Fell victim to this trope after taking down the CultClassic ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' in ''WebVideo/BadMovieBeatdown'', to the point where the video had to be posted with a disclaimer that did absolutely nothing to soothe the savage "fans". He also made several comparisons to the film in later reviews too, which did not cool flames.

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** Fell victim to this trope after taking down the CultClassic ''Film/{{Equilibrium}}'' in ''WebVideo/BadMovieBeatdown'', to the point where the video had to be posted with a disclaimer that did absolutely nothing to soothe the savage "fans".backlash. He also made several comparisons to the film in later reviews too, which did not cool flames.



** The funny thing about all this is that he constantly reminds people that his reviews are very clearly his opinions (his regular ''Franchise/StarTrek'' episode reviews even have "Opinionated" tacked on to them) and that it is very likely that they might not agree with him on many things. Some fans just can't stand a dissenting opinion it seems.

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** The funny thing about all this is that he constantly reminds people that his reviews are very clearly his ''his'' opinions (his regular ''Franchise/StarTrek'' episode reviews even have "Opinionated" tacked on to them) and that it is very likely that they might not agree with him on many things. Some fans just can't stand a dissenting opinion it seems.
20th Jul '17 12:11:20 PM TheJayman49
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* Creator/LittleKuriboh gets quite a lot of bashing because his web series, ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'', shamelessly tends to insult ''Anime/YuGiOhGX''.

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* Creator/LittleKuriboh gets quite a lot of bashing because his web series, ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'', shamelessly tends to insult ''Anime/YuGiOhGX''.''Anime/YuGiOhGX'' which some people regard as one of the more better ''Yu-Gi-Oh'' spinoffs.
20th Jul '17 11:55:25 AM KizunaTallis
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** He didn't even ''pan'' Comicbook/TheMaxx, merely admit that he had no idea what was going on (the story is a MindScrew, and he was reading a one-shot which explains nothing), and had no particular interest in finding out. Nonetheless, The Maxx is a CultClassic, so you can bet the fans took anything other than praise as an insult. Linkara even addressed this in his "Top 15 Screw-Ups video"
** Linkara also [[TemptingFate invited]] some of this in the "Next [=AT4W=] Screw-Ups" video when he stated his dislike of the ComicBook/XMen, going on a long tirade about blaming the team for being the in-universe causes of some of his most hated crossover events in Marvel's recent history... [[SubvertedTrope or not]], when, in his "Youngblood #5" review, he admitted he was [[IWasJustJoking "half-joking"]] and stated he doesn't hate the X-Men, and they actually had some great storylines and good characters in its roster.
** Linkara also said at a con that this is why he didn't review comics by Garth Ennis or Mark Millar, despite the fact that he doesn't really like their work. He did look at a Superman PSA comic the latter wrote, but this was actually a positive review, noting that when Millar's given restraint on his work as was the case here he can often find him pretty decent.

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** He didn't even ''pan'' Comicbook/TheMaxx, pan ''ComicBook/TheMaxx'', instead merely admit that he had no idea what was going on (the story is a MindScrew, and he was reading a one-shot which explains that explained nothing), and had no particular interest in finding out. Nonetheless, The Maxx ''The Maxx'' is a CultClassic, so you can bet the fans took anything other than praise as an insult. Linkara even addressed this in his "Top 15 Screw-Ups video"
Screw-Ups" video.
** Linkara also [[TemptingFate invited]] some of this in the "Next 15 [=AT4W=] Screw-Ups" video when he stated his dislike of the ComicBook/XMen, going on a long tirade about blaming the team for being the in-universe causes of some of his most hated crossover events in Marvel's recent history... [[SubvertedTrope or not]], when, in his "Youngblood #5" review, he admitted he was [[IWasJustJoking "half-joking"]] and stated he doesn't hate the X-Men, and they actually had some great storylines and good characters in its roster.
** Linkara also said at a con that this is why he didn't review comics by Garth Ennis or Mark Millar, despite the fact that he doesn't really like their work. He did look at a Superman PSA comic the latter wrote, but this was actually a positive review, noting that when Millar's given restraint on his work as (as was the case here here), he can often find him pretty decent.



** She got some hate for mentioning she hated ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'', as it was a film a about a dumb girl who "sold her soul for a vagina and a man she didn't know". Later on she parodied this by dedicating a video to her friends staging an "intervention" in which she explains her opinions in more depth, the others explain why it's a great film, and in the end she breaks and joins in the singing of "Part of Your World".
** She, along with WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows received some hatred for not liking ''Disney/WreckItRalph''. She's stated that an explanation will come, or maybe not, when in her "Top 10 Worst Movies of 2013" video, she said it would never come. But for all we know, the Chick could just be a LyingCreator.
* Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses contributors, Film Brain:

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** She got some hate for mentioning she hated ''Disney/TheLittleMermaid'', as calling it was a film a about a "a dumb girl who "sold sold her soul for a vagina and a man she didn't know". Later on on, she parodied this by dedicating a video to her friends staging an "intervention" in which she explains her opinions in more depth, the others explain why it's a great film, and in the end she breaks and joins in the singing of "Part of Your World".
** She, along with WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows, received some hatred for not liking ''Disney/WreckItRalph''. She's stated that an explanation will come, or maybe not, when in her "Top 10 Worst Movies of 2013" video, she said it would never come. But for all we know, the Chick could just be a LyingCreator.
* Keeping with more Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses contributors, Film Brain:



** By season 2 it seems Film Brain has come to expect this response for movies with high IMDB ratings, as his review of ''Film/SevenPounds'' began with a disclaimer to the effect of "This will be controversial, so please keep your comments constructive". [[SubvertedTrope The review went over quite well.]]

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** By season 2 2, it seems Film Brain has come to expect this response for movies with high IMDB ratings, as his review of ''Film/SevenPounds'' began with a disclaimer to the effect of "This will be controversial, so please keep your comments constructive". [[SubvertedTrope The review went over quite well.]]



** He also predicted that this trope would be invoked when he placed "All the Right Moves" by Music/OneRepublic at #3 in his list of the "Top 6 Worst songs of 2010 (That [he] Didn't Review)".
--> Todd: Oh, I'm not gonna make any fans for this one.

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** He also predicted that this trope would be invoked when he placed "All the Right Moves" by Music/OneRepublic at #3 in his list of the "Top 6 Worst songs of 2010 (That [he] Didn't Review)".
--> Todd: -->'''Todd:''' [[LampshadeHanging Oh, I'm not gonna make any fans for this one.]]



** In addition, his scathing criticism of all pre-Music/MyChemicalRomance EmoMusic, which he labeled as music by [[{{Wangst}} whiny and annoying people who sing about first-world problems]], was grossly inaccurate and as such prompted plenty of backlash. It didn't help that he used Music/SimplePlan and Music/HawthorneHeights (two bands that have been huge punching bags even within the {{Emo}} community) as examples. What Todd didn't realize is that those are emo-pop bands; proper emo bands like Music/SunnyDayRealEstate, Music/TakingBackSunday, Music/TheUsed, Music/{{Glassjaw}}, Music/{{Thrice}}, Music/BrandNew, Music/AtTheDriveIn and Music/{{Thursday}} sing about a wide range of profound, thought-provoking and often personal topics with great artistry and intellectual depth, and none of them have released a single song about "whining about their moms", as Todd put it. In addition, My Chemical Romance didn't even invent the theatrical, Goth-influenced brand of emo that Todd likes - {{AFI}} had been doing the same thing a decade earlier. Todd's obvious ignorance about a highly diverse genre couldn't have not made people angry.
** No huge backlash as of yet, but while discussing an aesthetic he calls "taking shit too seriously in the 1990s," one of the albums he says has that aesthetic is Music/JeffBuckley's ''Grace.''

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** In addition, his scathing criticism of all pre-Music/MyChemicalRomance EmoMusic, which he labeled as music by [[{{Wangst}} whiny and annoying people who sing about first-world problems]], was grossly inaccurate and as such prompted plenty of backlash. It didn't help that he used Music/SimplePlan and Music/HawthorneHeights (two bands that have been huge punching bags even within the {{Emo}} community) as examples. What Todd didn't realize is that those are emo-pop bands; proper emo bands like Music/SunnyDayRealEstate, Music/TakingBackSunday, Music/TheUsed, Music/{{Glassjaw}}, Music/{{Thrice}}, Music/BrandNew, Music/AtTheDriveIn and Music/{{Thursday}} sing about a wide range of profound, thought-provoking and often personal topics with great artistry and intellectual depth, and none of them have released a single song about "whining about their moms", as Todd put it. In addition, My Chemical Romance didn't even invent the theatrical, Goth-influenced brand of emo that Todd likes - {{AFI}} Music/{{AFI}} had been doing the same thing a decade earlier. Todd's obvious ignorance about a highly diverse genre couldn't have not made people angry.
** No huge backlash as of yet, but while discussing an aesthetic he calls "taking shit too seriously in the 1990s," 1990s", one of the albums he says has that aesthetic is Music/JeffBuckley's ''Grace.''



* Creator/HowardStern caused a lot of outrage within the Hispanic community when he criticized the music of {{Music/Selena}}, who was [[TooSoon shot and killed by her former friend Yolanda Saldívar three days prior]]. Stern had stated that, "This music does absolutely nothing for me. Alvin and the Chipmunks have more soul ... Spanish people have the worst taste in music. They have no depth." He later apologized for what he had said but many [[Main/RejectedApology refused to accept the apology]].

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* Creator/HowardStern caused a lot of outrage within the Hispanic community when he criticized the music of {{Music/Selena}}, Music/{{Selena}}, who was [[TooSoon shot and killed by her former friend Yolanda Saldívar three days prior]]. Stern had stated that, "This music does absolutely nothing for me. Alvin and the Chipmunks have more soul ... Spanish people have the worst taste in music. They have no depth." He later apologized for what he had said but many [[Main/RejectedApology [[RejectedApology refused to accept the apology]].



* In 2012, a columnist for a Massachusetts college newspaper published an article called "[[http://dailycollegian.com/2012/02/05/let%E2%80%99s-stop-pretending-we-like-techno-music/ Let's stop pretending we like techno music]]." In it, he says that techno music can't be considered real music, that a computer isn't an instrument, and that " Any Joe Schmo with a "[[CriticalResearchFailure MacBook Pro and a Wi-Fi connection can create techno]]". [[InsaneTrollLogic He goes on to accuse every single techno fan of not actually liking the genre and only pretending to so that they can go to techno shows]]. Keep in mind, techno ''isn't even a actual genre'' (he was likely thinking of something along the lines of EDM or Dubstep), so he was complaining about nothing. The review is universally hated, and the comment section is filled with hundreds of angry fans.

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* In 2012, a columnist for a Massachusetts college newspaper published an article called "[[http://dailycollegian.com/2012/02/05/let%E2%80%99s-stop-pretending-we-like-techno-music/ Let's stop pretending we like techno music]]." music]]". In it, he says that techno music can't be considered real music, that a computer isn't an instrument, and that " Any "Any Joe Schmo with a "[[CriticalResearchFailure MacBook Pro and a Wi-Fi connection can create techno]]". [[InsaneTrollLogic He goes on to accuse every single techno fan of not actually liking the genre and only pretending to so that they can go to techno shows]]. Keep in mind, techno ''isn't even {{techno}} is but one genre on ElectronicMusic, with the term having been used as a actual genre'' catch-all term (he was likely thinking of something along the lines of EDM or Dubstep), so he was complaining about nothing. The review is universally hated, and the comment section is filled with hundreds of angry fans.
19th Jul '17 1:49:16 AM LinTaylor
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* [[LetsPlay/YoVideogames Maximilian Dood]] has gotten both this trope and its inverse, [[UnpleaseableFanbase with some people complaining that he didn't like their game (or didn't hype it enough for their tastes) while others complain that he's too positive and hypes games that don't deserve it in their opinions]]. The biggest example is ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcomInfinite'', with Max trying to stay positive despite the poor early showing[[note]]He came away from EVO 2017 saying that he had more fun with it than any other game at the show[[/note]] and actually communicating with Creator/{{Capcom}} developers to offer suggestions on how to improve the game, while many critics have already written it off as a lost cause and moved on to other games (primarily ''VideoGame/DragonBallFighterZ'') and expect Max to do the same.

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* [[LetsPlay/YoVideogames Maximilian Dood]] has gotten both this trope and its inverse, [[UnpleaseableFanbase [[UnpleasableFanbase with some people complaining that he didn't like their game (or didn't hype it enough for their tastes) while others complain that he's too positive and hypes games that don't deserve it in their opinions]]. The biggest example is ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcomInfinite'', with Max trying to stay positive despite the poor early showing[[note]]He came away from EVO 2017 saying that he had more fun with it than any other game at the show[[/note]] and actually communicating with Creator/{{Capcom}} developers to offer suggestions on how to improve the game, while many critics have already written it off as a lost cause and moved on to other games (primarily ''VideoGame/DragonBallFighterZ'') and expect Max to do the same.
19th Jul '17 1:48:31 AM LinTaylor
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* [[LetsPlay/YoVideogames Maximilian Dood]] has gotten both this trope and its inverse, [[UnpleaseableFanbase with some people complaining that he didn't like their game (or didn't hype it enough for their tastes) while others complain that he's too positive and hypes games that don't deserve it in their opinions]]. The biggest example is ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcomInfinite'', with Max trying to stay positive despite the poor early showing[[note]]He came away from EVO 2017 saying that he had more fun with it than any other game at the show[[/note]] and actually communicating with Creator/{{Capcom}} developers to offer suggestions on how to improve the game, while many critics have already written it off as a lost cause and moved on to other games (primarily ''VideoGame/DragonBallFighterZ'') and expect Max to do the same.
15th Jul '17 9:22:24 AM nombretomado
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* [=GamesRadar=] has also been viewed this way for their less-than-forthcoming outlook on the ''Sonic'' franchise, especially when one considers their hatred of ''Sonic'' to be a RunningGag, along with their fanatical obsession with ''VideoGame/{{Okami}}'' and the [[VideoGame/BionicCommando "Wife Arm"]]. There are also complaints that they didn't finish the final version of ''Sonic Unleashed'' before reviewing it. And it appears they didn't finish ''[[SonicStorybookSeries Sonic and the Black Knight]]'' either.

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* [=GamesRadar=] has also been viewed this way for their less-than-forthcoming outlook on the ''Sonic'' franchise, especially when one considers their hatred of ''Sonic'' to be a RunningGag, along with their fanatical obsession with ''VideoGame/{{Okami}}'' and the [[VideoGame/BionicCommando "Wife Arm"]]. There are also complaints that they didn't finish the final version of ''Sonic Unleashed'' before reviewing it. And it appears they didn't finish ''[[SonicStorybookSeries Sonic and the Black Knight]]'' ''VideoGame/SonicAndTheBlackKnight'' either.
7th Jul '17 5:12:43 PM Kelothan
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** The funny thing about all this is that Phantomstrider8 frequently reminds people that his reviews are very clearly his opinions (his catch prase is, "It's just my silly personal opinion") and that people shuld feel free to disagree. Some fans just can't stand a dissenting opinion it seems.
* ''The Media Man'' (a DeviantArt-based critic of everything from film to TV to literature) once called ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' one of the worst TV shows ever. No, not just [[SeasonalRot Season 5 or any other season until Season 9]], the ''entire'' show. Fans were ''not'' happy. The same thing happened when he reviewed ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', in which case the backlash got so toxic he was forced to close the comments on the review.

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** The funny thing about all this is that Phantomstrider8 frequently reminds people that his reviews are very clearly his opinions (his catch prase is, "It's just my silly personal opinion") and that people shuld ''should'' feel free to disagree. Some fans just can't stand a dissenting opinion it seems.
* ''The Media Man'' (a DeviantArt-based critic of everything from film to TV to literature) once called ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' one of the worst TV shows ever. No, not just [[SeasonalRot Season 5 6 or any other season until Season 9]], poorly recieved season]], the ''entire'' show. Fans were ''not'' happy. The same thing happened when he reviewed ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'', again, the whole show, in which case the backlash got so toxic he was forced to close the comments on the review.
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