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10th Nov '17 9:09:03 PM HasturHasturHastur
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However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Green River, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark thrash-meets-glam dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of traditional doom metal, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues glam, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

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However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Green River, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark thrash-meets-glam dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of traditional doom metal, Mudhoney's punky, bluesy garage rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues glam, Hole's violent, abrasive, grindcore-tinged noise rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.
30th Oct '17 5:15:27 PM JurassicTimes
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* Music/King's X (particularly during the ''Dogman'' era, typically a hard rock/progressive metal act.)

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* Music/King's King's X (particularly during the ''Dogman'' era, typically a hard rock/progressive metal act.)
30th Oct '17 5:10:56 PM JurassicTimes
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The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]], Black Sabbath,and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). Indie rock’s noise is another influence, as is pop. The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, and describing depression, suicide, and heroin. This introspective writt influenced lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between.

However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

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The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]], Black Sabbath,and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). Indie rock’s noise is another influence, as is pop. The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, and describing drug addiction (particularly heroin), depression, suicide, and heroin.poverty, suicide. This introspective writt influenced lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between.

However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, Green River, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dark thrash-meets-glam dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, traditional doom metal, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, glam, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.



Nirvana, a UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}} (by way of Aberdeen and Olympia) Grunge band fronted by Kurt Cobain, unexpectedly made it big [[TheNineties in 1991]] with their album ''Music/{{Nevermind}}'', containing the famed hit single "Smells Like Teen Spirit", which, in typical "most famous song" fashion, was [[BlackSheepHit shunned by Cobain]]. With Nirvana's success, other grunge bands, such as Music/PearlJam, Music/{{Soundgarden}} and Music/AliceInChains, also made it pretty big, and less-popular groups (namely Music/{{Mudhoney}}, Music/{{Melvins}}, Screaming Trees, and ''Tad'') also had their moments in the mainstream spotlight. Against their will. As for punk before it, being big and famous went against Grunge's philosophy, and many of the bands tried to avoid fame. Cobain himself was pretty depressed over this, as well as many other things, including his heroin addiction. This whole depression thing culminated in Cobain's shotgun suicide in 1994 (although some {{conspiracy theorist}}s still maintain that he was murdered).

Then Nirvana disbanded, Soundgarden released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and Grunge began to fade in the shadow of Music/BritneySpears and a new generation of Millennial techno-geeks inspired by the {{Britpop}} revolution which was historically [[ArchNemesis hostile to Grunge]]. Another blow was dealt to Grunge nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Music/AliceInChains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}. [[spoiler: Music/CourtneyLove [[YokoOhNo did it!]]]]

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Nirvana, a UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}} (by way of Aberdeen and Olympia) Grunge band fronted by Kurt Cobain, unexpectedly made it big [[TheNineties in 1991]] with their album ''Music/{{Nevermind}}'', containing the famed hit single "Smells Like Teen Spirit", which, in typical "most famous song" fashion, was [[BlackSheepHit shunned by Cobain]]. The album drove away from the dirgy sludgy material that had defined the 'grunge' label and the bands earlier material to that point and instead experimented with less distortion and catchy pop hooks, a feature that when combined with Cobain's anguished voice and rugged good looks launched them into superstardom. With Nirvana's success, other grunge bands, bands from Seattle, as well as those that were similar in tone, such as Music/PearlJam, Music/{{Soundgarden}} and Music/AliceInChains, also made it pretty big, and less-popular groups (namely Music/{{Mudhoney}}, Music/{{Melvins}}, Screaming Trees, and ''Tad'') also had their moments in the mainstream spotlight. Against their will. As for punk before it, being big and famous went against Grunge's philosophy, and many of the bands tried to avoid fame. Cobain himself was pretty depressed over this, as well as many other things, including his heroin addiction. This whole depression thing culminated in Cobain's shotgun suicide in 1994 (although some {{conspiracy theorist}}s still maintain that he was murdered).

Then Nirvana disbanded, Alice In Chains went on hiatus, Soundgarden headed in a more alternative rock direction and released their most famous song ("Black Hole Sun"), and Grunge began with the rise of commercial {{PostGrunge}} bands like {{Bush}}, {{Foo Fighters}}, {{Silverchair}} and {{Matchbox 20}}, grunge itself had begun to fade into the shadows cast by the mid-to-late nineties, including {{britpop}}, {{nu metal}}, {{pop punk}}, {{The Spice Girls}}, Music/BackstreetBoys and Music/BritneySpears. By the turn of the millennium, grunge in the shadow of Music/BritneySpears mainstream was reduced to nostalgia and a new generation of Millennial techno-geeks inspired by the {{Britpop}} revolution which was historically [[ArchNemesis hostile to Grunge]]. Another another blow was dealt to Grunge nearly a decade after Cobain's suicide when Layne Staley, lead singer of Music/AliceInChains, died of a heroin overdose -- on the approximate date of Cobain's death [[note]]Both were discovered dead after some time had passed. Both were still listed as circa April 5th, however.[[/note]], which is cause for concern and even more paranoid UsefulNotes/{{conspiracy theories}}. [[spoiler: Music/CourtneyLove [[YokoOhNo did it!]]]]


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* Music/King's X (particularly during the ''Dogman'' era, typically a hard rock/progressive metal act.)
26th Oct '17 5:08:11 PM Tarnation
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Grunge itself is widely believed to have started in the indie rock scene in UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}, and is sometimes referred to as "the Seattle sound" by nobody in particular, even though some bands weren't actually ''from'' there. Grunge was created by two groups -- Malfunkshun and Green River -- and started off underground, which was the philosophy of the music. As a backlash against HairMetal, which was big at the time ([[TheEighties the mid-'80s]]), Grunge artists didn't care much for theatrics or their appearance, resulting in that trademark messy look characterized by flannel shirts (though several prominent acts, namely Music/AliceInChains and Mother Love Bone, started out as glam acts; the former later cast off all traces aside from a noticeable metallic edge, while the latter never really dropped it and was still not a million miles from something like Cinderella or Love/Hate when ''Apple'' posthumously dropped).

The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]], Black Sabbath,and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). Indie rock’s noise is another influence, as is pop. The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, and describing depression, suicide, and heroin. This introspective writt influenced lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between. However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

So, Grunge started off underground, but of course something happened. Record labels decided it was the next “big thing” and signed anybody with a guitar. Heroin use caused a moral panic in the media. What was this "something", you may ask?

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Grunge itself is widely believed to have started in the indie rock scene in UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}, and is sometimes referred to as "the Seattle sound" by nobody in particular, even though some bands weren't actually ''from'' there. Grunge was created by two groups -- Malfunkshun and Green River -- and started off underground, which was the philosophy of the music. As a backlash against big budget HairMetal, which was big at the time ([[TheEighties the mid-'80s]]), Grunge artists didn't care much for theatrics or their appearance, resulting in that trademark messy look characterized by flannel shirts (though several prominent acts, namely Music/AliceInChains and Mother Love Bone, started out as glam acts; the former later cast off all traces aside from a noticeable metallic edge, while the latter never really dropped it and was still not a million miles from something like Cinderella or Love/Hate when ''Apple'' posthumously dropped).

The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]], Black Sabbath,and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). Indie rock’s noise is another influence, as is pop. The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, and describing depression, suicide, and heroin. This introspective writt influenced lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between.

However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

So, Grunge started off underground, but of course something happened. Record labels decided it was the next “big thing” and signed anybody with a guitar. guitar and two songs. Heroin use and a few overdoses caused a moral panic in the media. What was this "something", you may ask?
26th Oct '17 5:05:08 PM Tarnation
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"Grunge" is a form of AlternativeRock. A very popular one, at that. So popular that it made Alternative Rock more popular. Without this genre the vast majority of us wouldn't know the Alternative Rock bands we listen to today, since Grunge broke it out of its niche status and into the public eye. For good or bad, the vast majority of us wouldn't know most of the bands we take for granted without it.

Grunge itself is widely believed to have started in UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}, and is sometimes referred to as "the Seattle sound" by nobody in particular, even though some bands weren't actually ''from'' there. Grunge was created by two groups -- Malfunkshun and Green River -- and started off underground, which was the philosophy of the music. As a backlash against HairMetal, which was big at the time ([[TheEighties the mid-'80s]]), Grunge artists didn't care much for theatrics or their appearance, resulting in that trademark messy look characterized by flannel shirts (though several prominent acts, namely Music/AliceInChains and Mother Love Bone, started out as glam acts; the former later cast off all traces aside from a noticeable metallic edge, while the latter never really dropped it and was still not a million miles from something like Cinderella or Love/Hate when ''Apple'' posthumously dropped).

The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]] and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, influencing lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between. However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

So, Grunge started off underground, but of course something happened. What was this "something", you may ask?

to:

"Grunge" is a form of AlternativeRock.Alternative Rock. A very popular one, at that. So popular in the early 1990s that it made Alternative Rock more popular. Without this genre the vast majority of us wouldn't know the Alternative Rock bands we listen to today, since Grunge broke it out of its niche niche/underground status and into the public eye. For good or bad, the vast majority of us wouldn't know most of the bands we take for granted without it.

Grunge itself is widely believed to have started in the indie rock scene in UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}, and is sometimes referred to as "the Seattle sound" by nobody in particular, even though some bands weren't actually ''from'' there. Grunge was created by two groups -- Malfunkshun and Green River -- and started off underground, which was the philosophy of the music. As a backlash against HairMetal, which was big at the time ([[TheEighties the mid-'80s]]), Grunge artists didn't care much for theatrics or their appearance, resulting in that trademark messy look characterized by flannel shirts (though several prominent acts, namely Music/AliceInChains and Mother Love Bone, started out as glam acts; the former later cast off all traces aside from a noticeable metallic edge, while the latter never really dropped it and was still not a million miles from something like Cinderella or Love/Hate when ''Apple'' posthumously dropped).

The music itself could be described as a strange combination of [[DoomMetal sludge metal]] and metal]], Black Sabbath,and AlternativeRock with even more influences from HardcorePunk (Music/BlackFlag's sludgier, slower material from 1984 on was frequently cited as an influence). Indie rock’s noise is another influence, as is pop. The guitars have heavy distortion and plenty of feedback (usually), songs often consist of both loud and soft sections, and the lyrics are often pretty personal, influencing and describing depression, suicide, and heroin. This introspective writt influenced lots of more [[{{Wangst}} angsty]] genres such as NuMetal and [[Music/{{Emo}} modern emo bands]]. The vocals range from PerishingAltRockVoice to {{Yarling}}, and all stops in between. However, these were among the few traits that most of the acts had in common; while Nirvana, Melvins, Mudhoney, and Tad could certainly be said to have lived up to most of those supposed hallmarks, they had little to do with Pearl Jam's arena rock stylings, Alice in Chains' dark, dirty, glam-tinged dirges, Soundgarden's mix of 70s hard rock spectacle with the grit and fuck-you attitude of noise rock, Mother Love Bone's sleazy, punkish blues rock, and Screaming Trees' psychedelic leanings. In short, while there was something resembling a basic skeleton of grunge, there wasn't really anything resembling a codified style and the bands that did sound alike often did so out of coincidence or common influences.

So, Grunge started off underground, but of course something happened. Record labels decided it was the next “big thing” and signed anybody with a guitar. Heroin use caused a moral panic in the media. What was this "something", you may ask?
17th Jul '17 4:36:35 AM StFan
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'''Grunge''' is a form of AlternativeRock. A very popular one, at that. So popular that it made Alternative Rock more popular. Without this genre the vast majority of us wouldn't know the Alternative Rock bands we listen to today, since Grunge broke it out of its niche status and into the public eye. For good or bad, the vast majority of us wouldn't know most of the bands we take for granted without it.

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'''Grunge''' "Grunge" is a form of AlternativeRock. A very popular one, at that. So popular that it made Alternative Rock more popular. Without this genre the vast majority of us wouldn't know the Alternative Rock bands we listen to today, since Grunge broke it out of its niche status and into the public eye. For good or bad, the vast majority of us wouldn't know most of the bands we take for granted without it.



* Music/{{Silverchair}} (Especially their debut ''Frogstomp'', released when the band was in their mid-teenage years at the height of TheNineties. They later moved on to {{Post-Grunge}} and later to more experimental material.)

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* Music/{{Silverchair}} (Especially their debut ''Frogstomp'', released when the band was in their mid-teenage years at the height of TheNineties. They later moved on to {{Post-Grunge}} PostGrunge and later to more experimental material.)



* Music/StoneTemplePilots (Early work. Later work is more experimental or could be considered {{Post-Grunge}})

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* Music/StoneTemplePilots (Early work. Later work is more experimental or could be considered {{Post-Grunge}})PostGrunge)
5th Jul '17 7:32:02 AM Piterpicher
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* Music/GreenRiver (TropeMaker) (Its members went on to form Mudhoney and Mother Love Bone / PearlJam)

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* Music/GreenRiver (TropeMaker) (Its members went on to form Mudhoney and Mother Love Bone / PearlJam)Music/PearlJam)
5th Jul '17 7:29:01 AM Piterpicher
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* Music/MotherLoveBone (Cut short by the lead singer's [[AuthorExistenceFailure sudden death from heroin overdose]], two of its members went on to form PearlJam. Like Alice in Chains, they were also associated with HairMetal.)

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* Music/MotherLoveBone (Cut short by the lead singer's [[AuthorExistenceFailure sudden death from heroin overdose]], two of its members went on to form PearlJam.Music/PearlJam. Like Alice in Chains, they were also associated with HairMetal.)
9th Jun '17 5:20:23 PM Qaweldon
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* Music/{{Tool}} (mostly Prog Metal, although some of their earlier works incorporate Grunge influences)



* Music/{{Tool}} (mostly Prog Metal, although some of their earlier works incorporate some Grunge influences)
8th Jun '17 9:55:28 PM Qaweldon
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* Music/{{Tool}} (mostly Prog Metal, although some of their earlier works incorporate some Grunge influences)
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