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9th Jul '17 7:13:57 AM Wyldchyld
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* ''Manga/{{RWBY}}: Humanity struggles to survive in a world full of monsters who seem to exist solely to [[CrapsackWorld destroy humans]]. As a result, the Huntsmen that protect people from the [[TheHeartless Creatures of Grimm]] need to give no quarter just to survive. The very first lesson [[ExtranormalInstitute Beacon Academy]] teaches its new students consists of [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] launching the teens over a cliff into a monster-filled forest, with the [[SinkOrSwimMentor warning]] that they need to kill everything that moves because the teachers won't come to their rescue. At the same time, Professor Oobleck challenges his students to understand what their motivation for becoming Huntsmen actually is. This challenge causes Team RWBY in particular a crisis of faith as Weiss (who joined to restore honour to her family name), Blake (who joined to atone for the crimes of her past) and Yang (who joined to experience the thrill of danger) begin to realise their personal desires are [[YouAreNotReady restricting their growth]]. Oobleck is extremely pleased when the girls' realise the most important duty of being a Huntsman is to protect the vulnerable and innocent... and no matter how brutal the world, or their lessons, this is the one thing they [[HeWhoFightsMonsters must never forget]].

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* ''Manga/{{RWBY}}: ''Manga/{{RWBY}}'': Humanity struggles to survive in a world full of monsters who seem to exist solely to [[CrapsackWorld destroy humans]]. As a result, the Huntsmen that protect people from the [[TheHeartless Creatures of Grimm]] need to give no quarter just to survive. The very first lesson [[ExtranormalInstitute Beacon Academy]] teaches its new students consists of [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] launching the teens over a cliff into a monster-filled forest, with the [[SinkOrSwimMentor warning]] that they need to kill everything that moves because the teachers won't come to their rescue. At the same time, Professor Oobleck challenges his students to understand what their motivation for becoming Huntsmen actually is. This challenge causes Team RWBY in particular a crisis of faith as Weiss (who joined to restore honour to her family name), Blake (who joined to atone for the crimes of her past) and Yang (who joined to experience the thrill of danger) begin to realise their personal desires are [[YouAreNotReady restricting their growth]]. Oobleck is extremely pleased when the girls' realise the most important duty of being a Huntsman is to protect the vulnerable and innocent... and no matter how brutal the world, or their lessons, this is the one thing they [[HeWhoFightsMonsters must never forget]].
9th Jul '17 7:13:36 AM Wyldchyld
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* ''Manga/{{RWBY}}: Humanity struggles to survive in a world full of monsters who seem to exist solely to [[CrapsackWorld destroy humans]]. As a result, the Huntsmen that protect people from the [[TheHeartless Creatures of Grimm]] need to give no quarter just to survive. The very first lesson [[ExtranormalInstitute Beacon Academy]] teaches its new students consists of [[BigGood Professor Ozpin]] launching the teens over a cliff into a monster-filled forest, with the [[SinkOrSwimMentor warning]] that they need to kill everything that moves because the teachers won't come to their rescue. At the same time, Professor Oobleck challenges his students to understand what their motivation for becoming Huntsmen actually is. This challenge causes Team RWBY in particular a crisis of faith as Weiss (who joined to restore honour to her family name), Blake (who joined to atone for the crimes of her past) and Yang (who joined to experience the thrill of danger) begin to realise their personal desires are [[YouAreNotReady restricting their growth]]. Oobleck is extremely pleased when the girls' realise the most important duty of being a Huntsman is to protect the vulnerable and innocent... and no matter how brutal the world, or their lessons, this is the one thing they [[HeWhoFightsMonsters must never forget]].
9th Jul '17 6:52:12 AM Wyldchyld
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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', [[ActionGirl Yang Xiao Long]] is mostly a friendly, laid-back and cheerful girl who likes puns and jokes and [[CoolBigSis dotes over her younger sister Ruby]], but Yang also happens to be [[CombatPragmatist the most brutal and pragmatic combatant on Team RWBY]], [[HairTriggerTemper the easiest to anger]], and the one most likely to use violence as a solution.
** All of Team RWBY have shown they qualify for this trope. In the climax of Volume 2, when Blake has Cinder's [[TheDragon Dragon]] at swordpoint with a look on her face that says she's about to kill him, she gets interrupted and settles for cutting off his KirkSummation by knocking him out with a kick to the face. More recently, Tyrian tries to attack Ruby and [[spoiler:ends up badly wounding her uncle Qrow with his stinger tail, leading Ruby to retaliate by ''slicing his stinger off'' with Crescent Rose, just like a girl calmly pruning a rosebush]]. Cutesy, idealistic and heroic teenage girls they may be, they are also trained fighters and can be quite nasty to their enemies when push comes to shove.
18th Jun '17 9:05:06 AM GCarty
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* ''Literature/TheAngloAmericanNaziWar'': [[TheAlliance The A4]], despite fighting a brutal war, spend on ton valuable resources trying to help civilians and offer food to any enemy that surrenders. But what do they do to a nation that [[FinalSolution enslaved and murdered tens of millions]], unleashed deadly gas attacks, [[spoiler: murdered members of the British Royal Family, and turned [[OmnicidalManiac all of France into a wasteland]] out of sheer spite?]] Well:
** The Nazi Reich endures [[spoiler: horrific nuclear and biochemical attacks. Berlin is not just destroyed, but is rendered ''uninhabitable for decades'']].

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* ''Literature/TheAngloAmericanNaziWar'': [[TheAlliance The A4]], despite fighting a brutal war, spend on ton tons of valuable resources trying to help civilians and offer food to any enemy that surrenders. But what do they do to a nation that [[FinalSolution enslaved and murdered tens of millions]], unleashed deadly gas attacks, [[spoiler: murdered members of the British Royal Family, and turned [[OmnicidalManiac all of France into a wasteland]] out of sheer spite?]] Well:
** The Nazi Reich endures [[spoiler: horrific nuclear and biochemical attacks. Berlin is and Nuremberg are not just destroyed, but is rendered ''uninhabitable for decades'']].centuries'']].



** [[spoiler: Per treaty Germany is permanently broken into several nations to ensure another horror doesn't come back from the grave. When a group of nationalists tried to militarily revolt to unite Germany, the A4 ''nuked'' the city of Stettin]].
** In a more personal example, a respectable Kansas soldier who lost several of his comrades in war was implied to have abandoned his guard duty [[spoiler: so that a group of Polish survivors could take brutal revenge on a group of former concentration camp commanders]].

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** [[spoiler: Per treaty Germany is permanently broken into several nations 15 permanently-occupied administrative districts to ensure another horror doesn't come back from the grave. When In 2007 (almost half a century after the end of the war) a group of nationalists tried to militarily revolt to unite Germany, the A4 ''nuked'' responded by ''obliterating'' the city of Stettin]].Stettin by orbital bombardment]].
** In a more personal example, a respectable Kansas soldier who lost several of his comrades in war was implied to have abandoned his guard duty [[spoiler: so that a group of Polish survivors could take brutal revenge on a group of former concentration camp commanders]].commandants]].
17th Jun '17 3:43:08 PM AnotherDuck
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* For some reason, people with a habit of TakingAdvantageOfGenerosity are almost ''always'' shocked when the friends, family or coworkers they exploit finally get fed up with it and decide to call them out and/or cut them off. It's important to remember that no matter how long a fuse someone has, [[TheDogBitesBack there's still a bomb at the end of it.]]
* This trope is invoked frequently by advocates of the death penalty, especially in the United States, who consider it a form of PayEvilUntoEvil.
14th Jun '17 6:23:31 PM ngh93
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* In ''Film/TheIncredibles'', there's Bob and Helen Parr, better known as [[SuperStrength Mr. Incredible]] and [[RubberMan Elastigirl]], respectively. They don't believe in using lethal force, do their best to protect civilians and save lives, and even exchange a sigh of "I love you" in the middle of a battle. But just because they ''don't'' kill doesn't mean that they ''can't''--they choose not to, and there's a big difference (see: Bob taking out a massive group of {{Mook}}s in a few seconds, or Helen knocking out a robber with a single punch without even looking at him). And God have mercy on your soul if you dare to [[MamaBear touch their]] [[PapaWolf children]].

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* In ''Film/TheIncredibles'', there's Bob and Helen Parr, better known as [[SuperStrength Mr. Incredible]] and [[RubberMan Elastigirl]], respectively. They don't believe in using lethal force, do their best to protect civilians and save lives, and even exchange a sigh of "I love you" in the middle of a battle. But just because they ''don't'' kill doesn't mean that they ''can't''--they choose not to, and there's a big difference (see: Bob taking out a massive group of {{Mook}}s in a few seconds, or Helen knocking out a robber with a single punch without even looking at him). And God have mercy on your soul if you dare to [[MamaBear touch their]] [[PapaWolf children]]. Not to mention every time a hovercraft explodes with one of Syndrome's henchmen inside.
8th Jun '17 9:55:58 AM lillolillo
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* The eponymous character of ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' is one of the nicest people around and always tries to communicate with her enemies first. That does not mean she won't blast her opponents ''[[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill hard]]'', if necessary, which may include students, friends or daughters. The fandom tends to refer to this behaviour as a kind of "Listen or be shot. Fail to listen, be shot again." mentality.

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* The eponymous character of ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'': Nanoha is one of the nicest people around and always tries to communicate with her enemies first. That does not mean she won't blast her opponents ''[[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill hard]]'', if necessary, which may include students, friends or daughters. The fandom tends to refer to this behaviour as a kind of "Listen or be shot. Fail to listen, be shot again." mentality.



-->'''Roto''': You believe in mercy, don't you?
-->'''Kurama''': No. [causes a plant to bloom and erupt from Roto's body]
* ''Anime/DragonBallZ''

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-->'''Roto''': --->'''Roto''': You believe in mercy, don't you?
-->'''Kurama''':
you?\\
'''Kurama''':
No. [causes a plant to bloom and erupt from Roto's body]
* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' Franchise/DragonBall:



** Ugo was initially presented as a protector and friend of Aladdin but when Judar was about to seriously injure Aladdin, Ugo stepped in and destroyed him with raw physical power.
*** In an earlier episode when Aladdin rushed to save Kou;s princess, he was ambushed by renegade Kou empire soldiers. Ugo completely obliterates them about 30 of them [[DynamicEntry upon arrival,]] [[note]]All that was left of them were rocks covered with blood.[[/note]] Aladdin either does not notice this or [[WhatMeasureIsAMook does not care. ]]

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** Ugo was initially presented as a protector and friend of Aladdin but when Judar was about to seriously injure Aladdin, Ugo stepped in and destroyed him with raw physical power.
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power. In an earlier episode when Aladdin rushed to save Kou;s princess, he was ambushed by renegade Kou empire soldiers. Ugo completely obliterates them about 30 of them [[DynamicEntry upon arrival,]] [[note]]All that was left of them were rocks covered with blood.[[/note]] Aladdin either does not notice this or [[WhatMeasureIsAMook does not care. ]]



* Franchise/{{Superman}}, being a FlyingBrick and all, tries to exert the least amount of force he can to resolve a situation. But if a villain [[MoralEventHorizon crosses the line]], [[BewareTheSuperman they're in for a world of hurt]].
** Played almost to the point of LampshadeHanging in one issue, where Major Force (trope-namer for StuffedIntoTheFridge) [[BullyingADragon mocks Superman]] for being "too polite". In response, Superman [[BodyHorror melted him]] into a [[http://web.archive.org/web/20170516002155/https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/supermanmoment10.jpg pile]][[http://web.archive.org/web/20170516001929/https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/supermanmoment11.jpg of]][[http://web.archive.org/web/20170516002303/https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/supermanmoment12.jpg slag.]] He lived through it, but that's [[AndIMustScream not much of a comfort]].
* Comicbook/SpiderMan is an example in that he does want to help, being the [[TropeNamers Trope Namer]] for ComesGreatResponsibility. That responsibility does not extend to his fighting style, which is fairly brutal. Some storylines revolve around him becoming more vicious, usually after donning the [[SuperpoweredEvilSide black suit]].

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* Franchise/{{Superman}}, being a FlyingBrick and all, tries to exert the least amount of force he can to resolve a situation. But if a villain [[MoralEventHorizon crosses the line]], [[BewareTheSuperman they're in for a world of hurt]].
** Played almost to the point of LampshadeHanging in
hurt]]. In one issue, where Major Force (trope-namer for StuffedIntoTheFridge) [[BullyingADragon mocks Superman]] for being "too polite". In response, Superman [[BodyHorror melted him]] into a [[http://web.archive.org/web/20170516002155/https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/supermanmoment10.jpg pile]][[http://web.archive.org/web/20170516001929/https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/supermanmoment11.jpg of]][[http://web.archive.org/web/20170516002303/https://arousinggrammardotcom.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/supermanmoment12.jpg slag.]] He lived through it, but that's [[AndIMustScream not much of a comfort]].
* Comicbook/SpiderMan Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'s kind-hearted, caring and compassionate. This causes a lot of villains to underestimate her. Then they learn the hard way that she's also a short-tempered, fierce, vicious fighter with power to crush mountains and little patience for evil guys.
* Franchise/SpiderMan
is an example in that he does want to help, being the [[TropeNamers Trope Namer]] for ComesGreatResponsibility.help because it's his responsibility. That responsibility does not extend to his fighting style, which is fairly brutal. Some storylines revolve around him becoming more vicious, usually after donning the [[SuperpoweredEvilSide black suit]].



* In [[http://riafire.deviantart.com/art/Reverse-Falls-Mabel-Rises-Page-5-597151845 this]] ''FanFic/ReverseFallsAU'' fan comic, Pacifica Northwest is portrayed as kind, curious, and adventurous GranolaGirl. But, as the evil version of Mabel finds out, she's ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome not harmless]]''
--> '''Reverse!Mabel''': [[ThisCannotBe But you're, damn, a hippie]]! How then will you explain your insane actions?
--> '''Reverse!Pacifica''': [[WorldOfCardboardSpeech You know, when I first met you, thanks to you I realized that not everything in this world can be solved by being nice. And desperate times call for desperate measures]]!

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* In [[http://riafire.deviantart.com/art/Reverse-Falls-Mabel-Rises-Page-5-597151845 this]] ''FanFic/ReverseFallsAU'' fan comic, Pacifica Northwest is portrayed as kind, curious, and adventurous GranolaGirl. But, as the evil version of Mabel finds out, she's ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome not harmless]]''
''not harmless''
--> '''Reverse!Mabel''': [[ThisCannotBe But you're, damn, a hippie]]! How then will you explain your insane actions?
-->
actions?\\
'''Reverse!Pacifica''': [[WorldOfCardboardSpeech You know, when I first met you, thanks to you I realized that not everything in this world can be solved by being nice. And desperate times call for desperate measures]]!
7th Jun '17 6:59:56 PM nombretomado
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* Chaka of the WhateleyUniverse: she's cheerful, considerate, happy-go-lucky... and she kicked Montana's butt when he crossed the line with her friend. When she had to deal with Lycanthros, she broke half his ribs and smashed his face in with moonsilver.

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* Chaka of the WhateleyUniverse: Literature/WhateleyUniverse: she's cheerful, considerate, happy-go-lucky... and she kicked Montana's butt when he crossed the line with her friend. When she had to deal with Lycanthros, she broke half his ribs and smashed his face in with moonsilver.
3rd Jun '17 8:26:05 PM redandready45
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* In [[http://riafire.deviantart.com/art/Reverse-Falls-Mabel-Rises-Page-5-597151845 this]] ''FanFic/ReverseFallsAU'' fan comic, Pacifica Northwest is portrayed as kind, curious, and adventurous GranolaGirl. But, as the evil version of Mabel finds out, she's ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome not harmless]]''
--> '''Reverse!Mabel''': [[ThisCannotBe But you're, damn, a hippie]]! How then will you explain your insane actions?
--> '''Reverse!Pacifica''': [[WorldOfCardboardSpeech You know, when I first met you, thanks to you I realized that not everything in this world can be solved by being nice. And desperate times call for desperate measures]]!
2nd Jun '17 3:53:28 AM TimeLordVictorious
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** Sherlock himself. Threaten [[TeamMom Mrs. Hudson]] and he'll give you a serious beating, then throw you out a window. If he's convinced you're stalking his best friend's fiancee, then he will watch you closely. And most of all, he makes it very clear that while he's on the side of good, he doesn't see himself as being one of the angels.
-->'''Sherlock:''' [[BadassBoast Oh I may be on the side of the angels, but don't think for one second that I am one of them.]]
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