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27th Sep '16 3:48:30 PM MagBas
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** Pelor, normally a NeutralGood Sun God, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation has been interpreted by some]] [[https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pelor#Pelor.2C_the_Burning_Hate as a malevolent and xenophobic]] DestroyerDeity.
27th Sep '16 12:54:10 PM Wymar
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** Pelor, normally a NeutralGood Sun God, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation has been interpreted by some]] [[https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pelor#Pelor.2C_the_Burning_Hate as a malevolent and xenophobic]] DestroyerDiety.

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** Pelor, normally a NeutralGood Sun God, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation has been interpreted by some]] [[https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pelor#Pelor.2C_the_Burning_Hate as a malevolent and xenophobic]] DestroyerDiety.DestroyerDeity.
27th Sep '16 12:53:22 PM Wymar
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** Pelor, normally a NeutralGood Sun God, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation has been interpreted by some]] [[https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pelor#Pelor.2C_the_Burning_Hate as a malevolent and xenophobic]] DestroyerDiety.
15th Sep '16 8:37:13 PM PaulA
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* In the "World's End" storyline in ''Comicbook/TheSandman'' one of the nested stories is a take on ''[[ComicBook/{{Prez}} Prez: Teenage President]]''. In this version when Prez Rickard dies, Death takes him to meet the Prince of the World (although she says he didn't ''create'' the world, he just "runs the local franchise"). Prez is horrified to discover this is Boss Smiley, the corrupt politician he's been fighting against his whole career. Instead of taking his place at Smiley's right hand, he goes off to find other Americas with Morpheus.

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* In the "World's End" storyline in ''Comicbook/TheSandman'' ''Comicbook/TheSandman'', one of the nested stories is a take on ''[[ComicBook/{{Prez}} ''[[ComicBook/{{Prez1973}} Prez: First Teenage President]]''. In this version when Prez Rickard dies, Death takes him to meet the Prince of the World (although she says he didn't ''create'' the world, he just "runs the local franchise"). Prez is horrified to discover this is Boss Smiley, the corrupt politician he's been fighting against his whole career. Instead of taking his place at Smiley's right hand, he goes off to find other Americas with Morpheus.
10th Sep '16 10:11:18 PM WillBGood
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' had the church of Yevon, who were [[IsThatWhatHeToldYou blinded by lies]] and persecuted with a giant, indestructible SpaceWhale capable of [[DoomedHometown leveling cities]] over the course of a thousand years. [[spoiler:Yevon turns out to not be a benevolent god, but a deranged summoner who refused to die and used the souls of the last survivors of his civilization to summon a recreation of their city for them to live in forever - the same "dream Zanarkand" that Tidus and Jecht came from - via the use of {{Instrumentality}}. The SpaceWhale actually ''was'' a hull for Yevon's spirit, created to basically demolish any civilization that became advanced enough to potentially disrupt the "dream" Zanarkand]]. Still, the true purpose of the church of Yevon [[spoiler:(as founded by his daughter) was to appease him without letting him destroy the rest of the world for revenge. Suffice to say, this knowledge never made it past the church's leaders...until a certain BadassLongcoat who learned the truth refused to stay dead]].

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' had the church of Yevon, who were [[IsThatWhatHeToldYou blinded by lies]] and persecuted with a giant, indestructible SpaceWhale capable of [[DoomedHometown leveling cities]] over the course of a thousand years. [[spoiler:Yevon turns out to not be a benevolent god, but a deranged summoner who refused to die and used the souls of the last survivors of his civilization to summon a recreation of their city for them to live in forever - the same "dream Zanarkand" that Tidus and Jecht came from - via the use of {{Instrumentality}}.an AssimilationPlot. The SpaceWhale actually ''was'' a hull for Yevon's spirit, created to basically demolish any civilization that became advanced enough to potentially disrupt the "dream" Zanarkand]]. Still, the true purpose of the church of Yevon [[spoiler:(as founded by his daughter) was to appease him without letting him destroy the rest of the world for revenge. Suffice to say, this knowledge never made it past the church's leaders...until a certain BadassLongcoat who learned the truth refused to stay dead]].
3rd Sep '16 9:39:00 PM Materioptikon
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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' answers the questions ''IV'' raised about God. [[spoiler:"God" refers to two beings: YHVH, who is evil, and the Great Will, who is good. The Great Will is more powerful and subverts the trope, but YHVH is the most vile character in ''Final'' and acts as the Final Boss of the two main routes. He had His greatest servant, Satan, split into Merkabah and Lucifer, the Final Bosses of ''IV'', in order to start the war between Law and Chaos. In other words, He's worse than he was in ''II'' because, rather than trying to decisively end the war for His benefit, He started the war for some reason]].

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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' answers the questions ''IV'' raised about God. [[spoiler:"God" refers to two beings: YHVH, who is evil, and the Great Will, who is good. The Great Will is more powerful and subverts the trope, but YHVH is the most vile character in ''Final'' and acts as the Final Boss of the two main routes. He had His greatest servant, Satan, split into Merkabah and Lucifer, the Final Bosses of ''IV'', in order to start the war between Law and Chaos. In other words, He's worse than he was in ''II'' because, rather than trying to decisively end the war for His benefit, He started the war for some reason]].war, and kept it going, essentially, in an effort to keep dominating existence as the power behind both Law and Chaos.]]
24th Aug '16 5:36:17 PM superkeijikun
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* Played with in ''Film/TheLegoMovie'': [[spoiler:"The Man Upstairs", who is revered as a god among the Master Builders, is actually the father of Finn, the child who played with his dad's Legos against his constant instructions to leave them be so he can keep all of his Lego sets seperate. In the story that Finn weaves, he bases the villain Lord Business on his father. Thankfully, "The Man Upstairs", and by extension Lord Business, has a change of heart and decides to let Finn build whatever he likes with his Legos.]]
12th Aug '16 9:49:59 PM nombretomado
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* ''TheDarkEye'' at first glance has a "gods = good; demons = evil" divide. Apart from the Nameless God, who was a traitor to the good gods. Then you find out about some more obscure (demi)gods, particularly the bloodthirsty Kor, who is the patron of mercenaries and likes to get cut off fingers of slain foes as sacrifice. Of course the fact that some misguided people worship demons as gods doesn't mean anything. Until [[spoiler:you get deeper into the ancient history/mythology and find out that at least some of the Archdemons that rule Hell used to be gods, and are only demons now because their number of worshippers diminished and they were supplanted by newer, more popular gods. Or they just did it ForTheEvulz.]]
** Plus, the gods really only care about the existence of creation. Mortals are only interresting for them for their effect on creation and for reaping their souls (every god gets the souls of mortals that live by his ideals) to strengthen the armies of creation in the last battle when the aforementioned Nameless God rips the outer sphere open, letting in the hordes of uncreated demons. Some of them seem to be curious about mortals that live by their ideals, like Phex (essentially god of tricksters) or Hesinde (goddess of wisdom and art), but that could be a ruse to get more souls. Others, the hard liners, were ready to nuke a region to stop a renegade from damning all mortals (signing their souls over to the demons), even if it meant reaping tens of thousands of souls prematurely. Luckily the largest army of mortals in the last age [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome stopped the renegade before that]]

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* ''TheDarkEye'' ''TabletopGame/TheDarkEye'' at first glance has a "gods = good; demons = evil" divide. Apart from the Nameless God, who was a traitor to the good gods. Then you find out about some more obscure (demi)gods, particularly the bloodthirsty Kor, who is the patron of mercenaries and likes to get cut off fingers of slain foes as sacrifice. Of course the fact that some misguided people worship demons as gods doesn't mean anything. Until [[spoiler:you get deeper into the ancient history/mythology and find out that at least some of the Archdemons that rule Hell used to be gods, and are only demons now because their number of worshippers diminished and they were supplanted by newer, more popular gods. Or they just did it ForTheEvulz.]]
** Plus, the gods really only care about the existence of creation. Mortals are only interresting interesting for them for their effect on creation and for reaping their souls (every god gets the souls of mortals that live by his ideals) to strengthen the armies of creation in the last battle when the aforementioned Nameless God rips the outer sphere open, letting in the hordes of uncreated demons. Some of them seem to be curious about mortals that live by their ideals, like Phex (essentially god of tricksters) or Hesinde (goddess of wisdom and art), but that could be a ruse to get more souls. Others, the hard liners, were ready to nuke a region to stop a renegade from damning all mortals (signing their souls over to the demons), even if it meant reaping tens of thousands of souls prematurely. Luckily the largest army of mortals in the last age [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome stopped the renegade before that]]
12th Aug '16 3:18:24 AM MajinAkuma
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* Of all places, this appears in ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds'' in the form of [[spoiler: ZONE]].

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* Of all places, this appears in ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds'' in the form of [[spoiler: ZONE]].Z-One, the last human of the BadFuture. He somehow got divine powers and he's worshipped by Yliaster. After losing hope and his friends, Z-One sends android copies of his friends to the past to correct the past, but some of their actions made things worse and didn't bring the results he hoped for. After several failures, he decides as his final plan to destroy the entirety of Neo-Domino City to prevent the BadFuture from happening, even at the cost of thousands of lives.
3rd Aug '16 1:45:14 PM Dravencour
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* ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'': [[spoiler:In a semi-de[[{{canon}} canonized]] chapter, which was removed for reasons of revealing too much, God was revealed to be behind everything that happens in Berserk's CrapsackWorld, and it was created due to humanity's desire for there is an ultimate reason to blame for human suffering; which resulted in the creation of the Idea of Evil, [[TheHeartless a grimdark version of Plato's Theory of Forms]], whose purpose in life was ''to literally be responsible for everybody suffering so much''. It's ''very good at it'', having conspired to drive Griffith into his ascension as the Godhand, which leads to the series theme of [[ScrewDestiny Fighting Fate]]. It can be seen as an inversion though; in this case, evil is God]].

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* ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'': [[spoiler:In a semi-de[[{{canon}} canonized]] chapter, which was removed for reasons of revealing too much, God was revealed to be behind everything that happens in Berserk's CrapsackWorld, and it was created due because to humanity's desire for there is to be an ultimate reason to blame for human suffering; which resulted in the creation of the Idea of Evil, [[TheHeartless a grimdark version of Plato's Theory of Forms]], whose purpose in life was ''to literally be responsible for everybody suffering so much''. It's And it's ''very good at it'', having conspired to drive Griffith into his ascension as the fifth Godhand, Femto, through the workings of Causality, which leads to the series theme of [[ScrewDestiny Fighting Fate]]. It can be seen as an inversion though; in this case, evil is God]].
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