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14th Sep '17 8:51:13 PM PaulA
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* Played with in Author/JulianMay's ''Literature/SagaOfTheExiles''. A time portal is created that can only send people back to a specific place around 6 million years ago. They attempt to avert this trope by banning the travel of any technology or psychic powers that could affect the future/present in any way, and forcing any women to be sterilized. However, it all goes a bit wrong when it turns out Earth of that time has been colonized by aliens from another galaxy, who can reverse the sterilization and breed with humans (their LivingShip chose Earth specifically for that reason). Although the aliens have some advanced technology, they were largely living in a somewhat cleaner medieval society before humans arrived and started industrializing things. However, it turns out that even though sterilization could be reversed and humans started breeding (with each other and the aliens), there were no alterations to the future. It's strongly implied that the aliens are responsible for Celtic mythology and for humanity's strong psychic potential, but all traces of technology and civilization were gone before the start of recorded history.

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* Played with in Author/JulianMay's Creator/JulianMay's ''Literature/SagaOfTheExiles''. A time portal is created that can only send people back to a specific place around 6 million years ago. They attempt to avert this trope by banning the travel of any technology or psychic powers that could affect the future/present in any way, and forcing any women to be sterilized. However, it all goes a bit wrong when it turns out Earth of that time has been colonized by aliens from another galaxy, who can reverse the sterilization and breed with humans (their LivingShip chose Earth specifically for that reason). Although the aliens have some advanced technology, they were largely living in a somewhat cleaner medieval society before humans arrived and started industrializing things. However, it turns out that even though sterilization could be reversed and humans started breeding (with each other and the aliens), there were no alterations to the future. It's strongly implied that the aliens are responsible for Celtic mythology and for humanity's strong psychic potential, but all traces of technology and civilization were gone before the start of recorded history.
10th Jul '17 7:40:28 AM tromag
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* ''Literature/SixteenThirtyTwo'' and many, ''many'' sequels. The West Virginia coal-mining town of Grantville is translocated to southern Germany in the middle of the UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar, utterly shattering the power structure and world view of Reformation Europe. Once again, this setting deals with language and diseases fairly well. Although in this case, it's the ''uptime'' people of Grantville who have to worry about the risk that the pandemic plagues of the 1600s will devastate their community. On the bright side, they're at a recent enough point in the past that their English is recognizable in England, and their German-speakers are understandable to the Germans around them.

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* ''Literature/SixteenThirtyTwo'' and many, ''many'' sequels. The West Virginia coal-mining town of Grantville is translocated to southern Germany in the middle of the UsefulNotes/ThirtyYearsWar, utterly shattering the power structure and world view of Reformation Europe. Once again, this setting deals with language and diseases fairly well. Although in this case, it's the ''uptime'' people of Grantville who have to worry It's also impressively realistic about the risk that the pandemic plagues of the 1600s will devastate how technology works: while some advanced technology comes with them, their community. On the bright side, they're at a recent enough point in the past biggest influence comes from modest improvements that their English is recognizable in England, and their German-speakers are understandable to can be built from the Germans around them.existing technological base, like replacing matchlock rifles with flintlocks.
9th Jul '17 12:15:56 PM Nimeroni
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* You can send resources (including peoples) from the future in the boardgame Anachrony. You can later [[StableTimeLoop travel back in time and reimburse those resources]], or [[RetGone erase your debt by other means]] (mostly when you get hit by a temporal anomaly).

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* You can send resources (including peoples) from the future in the boardgame Anachrony. You can later [[StableTimeLoop travel back in time and reimburse those resources]], or [[RetGone erase your debt by other means]] (mostly when you get hit by a [[TemporalParadox temporal anomaly).anomaly]]).
9th Jul '17 12:04:39 PM Nimeroni
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* You can send resources (including peoples) from the future in the boardgame Anachrony. You can later [[StableTimeLoop travel back in time and reimburse those resources]], or [[RetGone erase your debt by other means]] (mostly when you get hit by a temporal anomaly).
6th Jul '17 2:52:19 PM ElodieHiras
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** From the same level, Molly Ryan, spy from the same future as Grigor II, instructs Grigor II's enemies in how to train spies for a deliberate technology theft to turn the tide of the battle.
1st Jul '17 3:28:31 PM nombretomado
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** Or even not-so-isolated people: many experts believe that one of the key contributors to the Rwandan genocide was the too sudden emergence of mass media in a country that had a huge amount of tension and resentment in a largely uneducated populace, and had not had enough time to work them out peacefully. TheOtherWiki [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide#Media_propaganda details in one part of its article]] how [[{{Irony}} in the hope that it would promote an informed populace and assist the spread of democracy and human rights]], various international agencies had assisted and encouraged the development of the radio and printing, but didn't realise until it was too late what the people who got control of the media could use it for.

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** Or even not-so-isolated people: many experts believe that one of the key contributors to the Rwandan genocide was the too sudden emergence of mass media in a country that had a huge amount of tension and resentment in a largely uneducated populace, and had not had enough time to work them out peacefully. TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide#Media_propaganda details in one part of its article]] how [[{{Irony}} in the hope that it would promote an informed populace and assist the spread of democracy and human rights]], various international agencies had assisted and encouraged the development of the radio and printing, but didn't realise until it was too late what the people who got control of the media could use it for.
26th Jun '17 9:04:07 AM Naram-Sin
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*** In the 1500s, the Portuguese introduced modern cannons and arquebuses. These were quickly reverse-engineered and popularized in Japan, changing the way warfare was done there forever. They even copied Spanish galleons in the early 1600s, but these designs were lost when Sakoku was implemented in 1633.

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*** In the 1500s, the Portuguese introduced modern cannons and arquebuses. These were quickly reverse-engineered and popularized in Japan, changing the way warfare was done there forever. They even copied Spanish galleons in the early 1600s, but these designs were lost [[LostTechnology lost]] when Sakoku [[HiddenElfVillage Sakoku]] was implemented in 1633.
28th May '17 12:41:21 PM pepimanoli
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** Thanks to its unique combnation of being far too populous and too far away from traditional trade routes, Japan could benefit from this trope without being conquered by a Western nation (the usual result for non-Westerners when better armed Westerners showed up). It happened twice:

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** Thanks to its unique combnation combination of being far too populous and too far away from traditional trade routes, Japan could benefit from this trope without being conquered by a Western nation (the usual result for non-Westerners when better armed Westerners showed up). It happened twice:
24th May '17 8:23:35 PM PaulA
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* Creator/HarryHarrison's ''Deathworld 2'' features a non-time travel version of this, in which interstellar adventurer Jason dinAlt is stranded on a LostColony which has regressed to barbarism. Various bits and pieces of more advanced technology, generally regarded more or less as sorcery, are held as closely guarded secrets by the different clans (one group still knows how to make primitive petroleum-fueled engines, another how to make some crude electrical devices, yet another clan practices alchemy-level chemistry). The hero winds up completely revolutionizing the planet's backwater society solely out a desire to get off that primitive dirtball and back to someplace more civilized. The language issue is avoided as everyone on the planet speaks a (somewhat degraded) version of Esperanto.

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* Creator/HarryHarrison's ''Deathworld ''Literature/{{Deathworld}} 2'' features a non-time travel version of this, in which interstellar adventurer Jason dinAlt is stranded on a LostColony which has regressed to barbarism. Various bits and pieces of more advanced technology, generally regarded more or less as sorcery, are held as closely guarded secrets by the different clans (one group still knows how to make primitive petroleum-fueled engines, another how to make some crude electrical devices, yet another clan practices alchemy-level chemistry). The hero winds up completely revolutionizing the planet's backwater society solely out a desire to get off that primitive dirtball and back to someplace more civilized. The language issue is avoided as everyone on the planet speaks a (somewhat degraded) version of Esperanto.
21st May '17 1:21:11 AM Toren
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* ''Literature/TheWanderingInn'':Ryoka, who was teleported from Earth to a medieval fantasy world, has plenty of knowledge about Earth's technology, but she's so afraid that the knowledge will fall into the wrong hands that she can't reveal any of it.
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