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19th May '18 1:13:14 PM RedScharlach
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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10917821/1/The-questionable-burdens-of-leadership-of-a-troll-Emperor The (Questionable) Burdens of Leadership of a Troll Emperor]]'' begins with Naruto and Xanna traveling to the Franchise/StargateVerse sometime around the 15th century, taking over a minor Goa'uld's world, and improving it's technology over time as they build an empire that eventually spans multiple galaxies. While they do things "slowly" to keep the population from being completely reliant on them, said world goes from Stone Age level technology to at least a century or two ahead of Earth in less than six hundred years. It certainly helps that once the empire has advanced far enough for it to be useful, Xanna and Naruto call in the favor the Asgard owe them and has them teach their people.

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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10917821/1/The-questionable-burdens-of-leadership-of-a-troll-Emperor The (Questionable) Burdens of Leadership of a Troll Emperor]]'' begins with Naruto and Xanna traveling to the Franchise/StargateVerse sometime around the 15th century, taking over a minor Goa'uld's world, and improving it's its technology over time as they build an empire that eventually spans multiple galaxies. While they do things "slowly" to keep the population from being completely reliant on them, said world goes from Stone Age level technology to at least a century or two ahead of Earth in less than six hundred years. It certainly helps that once the empire has advanced far enough for it to be useful, Xanna and Naruto call in the favor the Asgard owe them and has them teach their people.



* A non-time-travel example in ''Literature/TheLostRegiment''. After the Battle of Gettysburg, the 35th Maine boards a ship along with an artillery batallion, and the ship is tranported by a NegativeSpaceWedgie to another planet (the two moons are a dead giveaway). There, they find numerous city-states founded by humans who have been transported there throughout history. This includes ancient Russians (the first culture they meet), Carthaginians, Romans, Mayans, and others. They also find out that the rulers of this world are 10-foot-tall HumanAliens divided into several hordes that are engaged in never-ending circles around the planet at different latitudes, demanding and receiving tribute from the human city-states in the form of crops, materials, and [[IAmAHumanitarian people for food]] (their word for humans is "cattle"). It's not long before one such horde, the Tugars arrives to collect their generational tribute and put the newly-arrived "Yankees" in their place. After helping the Russian peasants rise up against the boyars and the church, the Americans resolve to turn the city of Suzdal into a modern (i.e. Civil War-era) industrial power with a modern army with firearms. Unfortunately, they only have a year before the main body of the horde arrives. Many of the soldiers are former factory and mine workers, so they are familiar with the methods of industrialization. However, making Civil War-era rifled weapons requires precision tools, so they, instead settle for Revolution-era muskets and smoothbore cannons. They even build an observation balloon and a working locomotive. By later books, they move on to seagoing ironclads.

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* A non-time-travel example in ''Literature/TheLostRegiment''. After the Battle of Gettysburg, the 35th Maine boards a ship along with an artillery batallion, battalion, and the ship is tranported transported by a NegativeSpaceWedgie to another planet (the two moons are a dead giveaway). There, they find numerous city-states founded by humans who have been transported there throughout history. This includes ancient Russians (the first culture they meet), Carthaginians, Romans, Mayans, Maya, and others. They also find out that the rulers of this world are 10-foot-tall HumanAliens divided into several hordes that are engaged in never-ending circles around the planet at different latitudes, demanding and receiving tribute from the human city-states in the form of crops, materials, and [[IAmAHumanitarian people for food]] (their word for humans is "cattle"). It's not long before one such horde, the Tugars arrives to collect their generational tribute and put the newly-arrived "Yankees" in their place. After helping the Russian peasants rise up against the boyars and the church, the Americans resolve to turn the city of Suzdal into a modern (i.e. Civil War-era) industrial power with a modern army with firearms. Unfortunately, they only have a year before the main body of the horde arrives. Many of the soldiers are former factory and mine workers, so they are familiar with the methods of industrialization. However, making Civil War-era rifled weapons requires precision tools, so they, instead settle for Revolution-era muskets and smoothbore cannons. They even build an observation balloon and a working locomotive. By later books, they move on to seagoing ironclads.



* In the novella ''Veritas'' by Creator/RobertReed, three retrofitted cruise ships loaded with equipment and technical experts are sent back to Ancient Rome immediately after Caesar's assassination, and usurp power after a show of power by [[WeaponizedTeleportation disintegrating a section of the city wall instantly by warping it to the paleolithic era]]. They set about raising Rome's level of development by establishing relationships with powerful families and giving them monopoly rights on the production of high-tech goods. Fifty years later, their technology is a mishmash of 19th and mid 20th century tech. The crew of the cruise ships were thoroughly screened to prevent modern era diseases from reaching pre-penicillin and pre-vaccination Rome, though they inadvertently [[spoiler: bring HIV with them, with is ravaging the population.]]

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* In the novella ''Veritas'' by Creator/RobertReed, three retrofitted cruise ships loaded with equipment and technical experts are sent back to Ancient Rome immediately after Caesar's assassination, and usurp power after a show of power by [[WeaponizedTeleportation disintegrating a section of the city wall instantly by warping it to the paleolithic era]]. They set about raising Rome's level of development by establishing relationships with powerful families and giving them monopoly rights on the production of high-tech goods. Fifty years later, their technology is a mishmash of 19th 19th- and mid 20th century mid-20th-century tech. The crew of the cruise ships were thoroughly screened to prevent modern era modern-era diseases from reaching pre-penicillin and pre-vaccination Rome, though they inadvertently [[spoiler: bring HIV with them, with is ravaging the population.]]



* The time travel arc of ''Series/BattlestarGalactica1980'' is constructed about this. Realizing that Earth's technology would be insufficient to repel the Cylons were the Galacticans to reveal themselves to the earthmen, radical scientist Xavier researches Earth's past and decides that the best course of action to advance Earth's technology is to give the Nazis rocket technology which would allow them to win WWII. Fortunately the heroes have followed him to the past and thwart the attempt.

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* The time travel arc of ''Series/BattlestarGalactica1980'' is constructed about this. Realizing that Earth's technology would be insufficient to repel the Cylons were the Galacticans to reveal themselves to the earthmen, Earthmen, radical scientist Xavier researches Earth's past and decides that the best course of action to advance Earth's technology is to give the Nazis rocket technology which would allow them to win WWII. Fortunately the heroes have followed him to the past and thwart the attempt.



** Alex does a fairly simplistic version in ''Series/AshesToAshes'', when in order to smoke out a suspect from several possibilities without arousing suspicion, she decides to (her words) "invent speed dating twenty years early".

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** Alex does a fairly simplistic version in ''Series/AshesToAshes'', when in order to smoke out a suspect from several possibilities without arousing suspicion, she decides to (her (in her words) "invent speed dating twenty years early".



--> I have no illusions of raising this place to a 21st century standard of living, or even a 20th century one. [[WellThisIsNotThatTrope I'm no Connecticut Yankee, just a Seattle Geek who happens to know a few things about the way things work.]] ... For example, I know that spinning a magnet around inside a coil of copper wire produces an electric current. But how strong of a magnet? How big does it have to be, and how fast does it have to spin, before you get anything useful? Does the size of the coil of wire relative to the magnet matter? Does the number of loops in the coil matter? We're rediscovering all these things from first principles.

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--> I have no illusions of raising this place to a 21st century 21st-century standard of living, or even a 20th century 20th-century one. [[WellThisIsNotThatTrope I'm no Connecticut Yankee, just a Seattle Geek who happens to know a few things about the way things work.]] ... For example, I know that spinning a magnet around inside a coil of copper wire produces an electric current. But how strong of a magnet? How big does it have to be, and how fast does it have to spin, before you get anything useful? Does the size of the coil of wire relative to the magnet matter? Does the number of loops in the coil matter? We're rediscovering all these things from first principles.



* Invoked by [[BigBad Venger]] in an episode of the ''WesternAnimation/DungeonsAndDragons'' cartoon. Venger uses his magic to kidnap a jet-fighter pilot and his jet from the future, and a German WWII Luftwaffe pilot. His plan was to send the Luftwaffe pilot back to WWII with the futuristic jet, so Germany wins the war, preventing the birth of the heroes. Fortunately, his plan failed, because the German pilot pulled a HeelFaceTurn after meeting the heroes, who convinced him of not going along with the plan.

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* Invoked by [[BigBad Venger]] in an episode of the ''WesternAnimation/DungeonsAndDragons'' cartoon. Venger uses his magic to kidnap a jet-fighter pilot and his jet from the future, and a German WWII Luftwaffe pilot. His plan was to send the Luftwaffe pilot back to WWII with the futuristic jet, so Germany wins the war, preventing the birth of the heroes. Fortunately, his plan failed, because the German pilot pulled a HeelFaceTurn after meeting the heroes, who convinced him of into not going along with the plan.



* Accidentally travelling back in time and even being able to remember how to create modern technologies is the idea behind [[http://rebuildingcivilization.com/sites/default/files/travel_back_in_time.jpg this poster]]. (Also handy for zombie apocalypses)

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* Accidentally travelling back in time and even being able to remember how to create modern technologies is the idea behind [[http://rebuildingcivilization.com/sites/default/files/travel_back_in_time.jpg this poster]]. (Also handy for zombie apocalypses)apocalypses.)
14th May '18 4:09:20 PM KeithTyler
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* ''Series/StarTrek'' touches on this in "A Piece of the Action," ''twice.'' The Iotians' culture was based around a book on 1920s Earth Chicago mobs, left behind by a previous starship. Then, near the end of the episode, Bones sheepishly admits that he accidentally left his communicator on the planet, which contains a unique piece of technology that Spock predicts will accelerate Iotian technology even further.
15th Apr '18 3:44:39 AM Bosco13
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* Some of the levels in ''[[Franchise/BillAndTed Bill and Ted's Excellent Video Game Adventure]]'' involve this, like giving Jesse James an uzi and Cleopatra a credit card.
22nd Mar '18 12:48:41 PM LifeofPi
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* ''Literature/TheWanderingInn'':Ryoka, who was teleported from Earth to a medieval fantasy world, has plenty of knowledge about Earth's technology, but she's so afraid that the knowledge will fall into the wrong hands that she can't reveal any of it.

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* ''Literature/TheWanderingInn'':Ryoka, ''Literature/TheWanderingInn'': Ryoka, who was teleported from Earth to a medieval fantasy world, has plenty of knowledge about Earth's technology, but she's so afraid that the knowledge will fall into the wrong hands that she can't reveal any of it.
12th Mar '18 9:50:11 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* In ''LightNovel/MaoyuuMaouYuusha'', the Demon Queen, a peace-seeking sort despite her name, consorts ([[ArrangedMarriage literally]]) with the opposing Hero to bring modernizations to farming, industry and navigation that help humanity avoid the need for war. Pitfalls are expected by the GenreSavvy leader as not everyone on either side of the war is willing to cede control over those who once lacked control of their destinies or did things that others expected because of their heritages.

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* In ''LightNovel/MaoyuuMaouYuusha'', the Demon Queen, a peace-seeking sort despite her name, consorts ([[ArrangedMarriage literally]]) with the opposing Hero to bring modernizations to farming, industry and navigation that help humanity avoid the need for war. Pitfalls are expected by the GenreSavvy leader as not everyone on either side of the war is willing to cede control over those who once lacked control of their destinies or did things that others expected because of their heritages.
19th Feb '18 4:54:22 AM racnor
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* ''FanFic/LulusBizarreRebellion'': In a rather more short term version of this, the Chinese Federation uses an as-yet-unknown method to bring season 2 knightmares during their season 1 invasion of area eleven, culminating in them deploying the Guren S.E.I.T.E.N, piloted by the zombified [[Naoto Kozuki, Kallen's brother.]]

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* ''FanFic/LulusBizarreRebellion'': *''FanFic/LulusBizarreRebellion'': In a rather more short term version of this, the Chinese Federation uses an as-yet-unknown method to bring season 2 knightmares during their season 1 invasion of area eleven, culminating in them deploying the Guren S.E.I.T.E.N, piloted by the zombified [[Naoto [[spoiler: Naoto Kozuki, Kallen's brother.]]
19th Feb '18 4:53:39 AM racnor
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*''FanFic/LulusBizarreRebellion'': In a rather more short term version of this, the Chinese Federation uses an as-yet-unknown method to bring season 2 knightmares during their season 1 invasion of area eleven, culminating in them deploying the Guren S.E.I.T.E.N, piloted by the zombified [[Naoto Kozuki, Kallen's brother.]]
11th Feb '18 4:52:54 PM nombretomado
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* Cheating on tech levels in ParadoxInteractive games can lead to things like handing [[VideoGame/EuropaUniversalis repeating rifles to the Byzantine Empire during the siege of Constantinople in the fourteenth century]].

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* Cheating on tech levels in ParadoxInteractive Creator/ParadoxInteractive games can lead to things like handing [[VideoGame/EuropaUniversalis repeating rifles to the Byzantine Empire during the siege of Constantinople in the fourteenth century]].
28th Jan '18 5:03:30 PM elfey
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** The Novella Dark Fall introduces a LostColony who regressed to a hunter gatherer stage and took 1500 years to regain primitive steam engines. Haven's discovery and uplift of Calvin's Hope produces [[spoilers: bolthole, a secret industrial center able to outproduce even the Manties]].
28th Jan '18 12:46:34 AM Fireblood
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* A fantasy version is introduced in ''Literature/GuardiansOfTheFlame'' where Lou Riccetti's wizard character renounces his magic only to start using his engineering knowledge to overturn MedievalStasis in their fight against slavery. Predictably, the opposing factions, although not privy to the details of things such as how to make gunpowder, find ways to adapt the technology through magic.

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* A fantasy version is introduced in ''Literature/GuardiansOfTheFlame'' where Lou Riccetti's wizard character renounces his magic only to start using his engineering knowledge to overturn MedievalStasis in their fight against slavery. Predictably, the opposing factions, although not privy to the details of things such as how to make gunpowder, find ways to adapt the technology through magic. In fact the slavers manage to make some water-powered rifles which partly work by a spell.
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