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->''I live by syllogisms: God is love. Love is blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God. I don't know what I'd believe in if it wasn't for that.''
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->''I live by syllogisms: God is love. Love is blind. Stevie Wonder StevieWonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God. I don't know what I'd believe in if it wasn't for that.''
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** Garfield has a similar philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."
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** Garfield {{Garfield}} has a similar philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."
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**It's mostly just an Association Fallacy. There isn't really a logical difference between being mortal and being a mortal (a mortal is just "one who is mortal", so changing "is mortal" to "is a mortal" just reinforces that Socrates is a person)
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This is more just punning to make a point than a real fallacy.
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* In ''MuchAdoAboutNothing'', this exchange between [[BelligerentSexualTension Benedick and Beatrice]]:
-->'''Beatrice''': And yet, ere I go, let me go with that I came; which is, with knowing what hath passed between you and Claudio.\\
'''Benedick''': Only foul words; and thereupon I will kiss thee.\\
'''Beatrice''': Foul words is but foul wind, and foul wind is but foul breath, and foul breath is noisome; therefore I will depart unkissed.
-->'''Beatrice''': And yet, ere I go, let me go with that I came; which is, with knowing what hath passed between you and Claudio.\\
'''Benedick''': Only foul words; and thereupon I will kiss thee.\\
'''Beatrice''': Foul words is but foul wind, and foul wind is but foul breath, and foul breath is noisome; therefore I will depart unkissed.
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-->'''Beatrice''': And yet, ere I go, let me go with that I came; which is, with knowing what hath passed between you and Claudio.\\
'''Benedick''': Only foul words; and thereupon I will kiss thee.\\
'''Beatrice''': Foul words is but foul wind, and foul wind is but foul breath, and foul breath is noisome; therefore I will depart unkissed.
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* WoodyAllen provided one in ''Love And Death'': "Fact: Socrates was a mortal. Fact: All men are mortal. Therefore: All men are Socrates."
* WoodyAllen provided one in ''Love And Death'': "Fact: Socrates was a mortal. Fact: All men are mortal. Therefore: All men are Socrates."
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* In ''MuchAdoAboutNothing'', this exchange between [[BelligerentSexualTension Benedick and Beatrice]]:
-->'''Beatrice''': And yet, ere I go, let me go with that I came; which is, with knowing what hath passed between you and Claudio.\\
'''Benedick''': Only foul words; and thereupon I will kiss thee.\\
'''Beatrice''': Foul words is but foul wind, and foul wind is but foul breath, and foul breath is noisome; therefore I will depart unkissed.
-->'''Beatrice''': And yet, ere I go, let me go with that I came; which is, with knowing what hath passed between you and Claudio.\\
'''Benedick''': Only foul words; and thereupon I will kiss thee.\\
'''Beatrice''': Foul words is but foul wind, and foul wind is but foul breath, and foul breath is noisome; therefore I will depart unkissed.
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* In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0725.html this]] OrderOfTheStick, the Empress is committing the Four Terms fallacy by using "grown larger" in two different senses: Dragons that are more powerful have grown larger (as a result of age), so she thinks that if she grows larger (by eating more and getting fat) that she will also be more powerful. That's not the only fallacy involved in her reasoning, either.
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* In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0725.html this]] OrderOfTheStick, ''Webcomic/OrderOfTheStick'', the Empress is committing the Four Terms fallacy by using "grown larger" in two different senses: Dragons that are more powerful have grown larger (as a result of age), so she thinks that if she grows larger (by eating more and getting fat) that she will also be more powerful. That's not the only fallacy involved in her reasoning, either.
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--> You are all the world to me, therefor you love me
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--> You are all the world to me, therefor therefore you love me
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The corrector and link-to-trope adder nightelf37 was here!
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Also called the Politician's Syllogism.
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Also called the Politician's Syllogism.
Syllogism or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation Equivocation]].
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* [[ZerothLawOfTropeExamples Shakespeare did it first.]] In ''AsYouLikeIt'', Touchstone proves that Corin is going to hell because he's never been in court.
--> Why, if thou never wast at court, thou never sawest good manners; if thou never sawest good manners, then thy manners must be wicked; and wickedness is sin, and sin is damnation. Thou art in a parlous state, shepherd.
--> Why, if thou never wast at court, thou never sawest good manners; if thou never sawest good manners, then thy manners must be wicked; and wickedness is sin, and sin is damnation. Thou art in a parlous state, shepherd.
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* The StephenColbert quote at the top of the page is an example of such a fallacy.
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* The StephenColbert quote at the top of the page is an example of such a fallacy.fallacy, with a dash of ConverseError for flavor.
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A standard three-step syllogism uses three terms -- the things that are being linked by the line of reasoning. If A, then B. If B, then C. Therefore if A, then C. The fallacy of four terms occurs when, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin exactly like it says]] ''four'' terms are used instead of three. In most cases, a single term is used two (or more) times, in differing contexts with different meanings; and yet the argument treats the two usages as exactly the same, since the same term was used.
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A standard three-step syllogism uses three terms -- the things that are being linked by the line of reasoning. If A, then B. If B, then C. Therefore if A, then C. The fallacy of four terms occurs when, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin exactly like it says]] ''four'' terms are used instead of three. In most cases, a single term (B) is used two (or more) times, in differing contexts with different meanings; and yet the argument treats the two usages as exactly the same, since the same term was used.
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* The [[GenocidalManiac Heys]] in ''TheTick'' worship Nothing, as outlined in translation from their PokemonSpeak: "Nothing lasts forever. Nothing is worth fighting for."
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* The [[GenocidalManiac [[OmnicidalManiac Heys]] in ''TheTick'' worship Nothing, as outlined in translation from their PokemonSpeak: "Nothing lasts forever. Nothing is worth fighting for."
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* The [[GenocidalManiac Heys]] in ''TheTick'' worship Nothing, as outlined in translation from their PokemonSpeak: "Nothing lasts forever. Nothing is worth fighting for."
* The [[GenocidalManiac Heys]] in ''TheTick'' worship Nothing, as outlined in translation from their PokemonSpeak: "Nothing lasts forever. Nothing is worth fighting for."
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** Similarly, Anadin pain pills used to be marketed with the slogan "Nothing acts faster than Anadin", prompting the zinger "So take nothing - it's cheaper".
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** Similarly, Anadin pain pills used to be marketed with the slogan "Nothing acts faster than Anadin", prompting the zinger "So take nothing - it's cheaper".cheaper".
*The most famous version is probably this:
--> All the world loves a lover
--> I love you, therefor I am a lover
--> You are all the world to me, therefor you love me
*The most famous version is probably this:
--> All the world loves a lover
--> I love you, therefor I am a lover
--> You are all the world to me, therefor you love me
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* In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0725.html this]] OrderOfTheStick, the Empress is committing the Four Terms fallacy by using "grown larger" in two different senses: Dragons that are more powerful have grown larger (as a result of age), so she thinks that if she grows larger (by eating more and getting fat) that she will also be more powerful. That's not the only fallacy involved in her reasoning, either.
* In [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0725.html this]] OrderOfTheStick, the Empress is committing the Four Terms fallacy by using "grown larger" in two different senses: Dragons that are more powerful have grown larger (as a result of age), so she thinks that if she grows larger (by eating more and getting fat) that she will also be more powerful. That's not the only fallacy involved in her reasoning, either.
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Using a standard 3-step proof-of-concept to prove your theory, but including one unconnected tenet which breaks the line of reasoning. Results from equivocation -- that is, a single term is used two (or more) times, in differing contexts with different meanings; and yet the argument treats the two usages as exactly the same, since the same term was used. It's best explained by this example from ''LandOfTheBlind.''
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It's best explained by this example from ''LandOfTheBlind.''
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** To be fair to politicians, this argument could be sound if you were sufficiently cynical - a politician might prefer to be seen to be doing ''anything'' about a problem, regardless of whether its a solution or not.
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--> The four terms here are 1: "it is not in a glass case" 2: "I can (am physically able to) touch it", 3: "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and 4: "I will touch it". If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).
** Bad example of physically able to = can = am permitted to. Most museums put stuff in cases when they don't want visitors to touch them and vice-versa.
** Also lacking is the connection between "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and "I will touch it." Just because you ''can'' doesn't mean that you either ''will'' or ''have'' to touch it.
*** That really depends. The British Museum for example keeps a great number of statues and stone tablets uncased, for example. Cases are mostly reserved for really fragile items.
** Better example, Visitors to NASA mission control. NASA cannot put the instruments in glass cases, because they are using the instruments, so they would need staff to stop visitors touching stuff.
** Bad example of physically able to = can = am permitted to. Most museums put stuff in cases when they don't want visitors to touch them and vice-versa.
** Also lacking is the connection between "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and "I will touch it." Just because you ''can'' doesn't mean that you either ''will'' or ''have'' to touch it.
*** That really depends. The British Museum for example keeps a great number of statues and stone tablets uncased, for example. Cases are mostly reserved for really fragile items.
** Better example, Visitors to NASA mission control. NASA cannot put the instruments in glass cases, because they are using the instruments, so they would need staff to stop visitors touching stuff.
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--> The four terms fallacy here are 1: "it is not in a glass case" 2: "I can (am physically able to) touch it", 3: "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and 4: "I will touch it". If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).
** Bad example of physically able to = can = am permitted to. Most museums put stuff in cases when they don't want visitors to touch them and vice-versa.
** Also lacking is the connection between "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and "I will touch it." Just because you ''can'' doesn't mean that you either ''will'' or ''have'' to touch it.
*** That really depends. The British Museum for example keeps a great number of statues and stone tablets uncased, for example. Cases are mostly reserved for really fragile items.
** Better example, Visitors to NASA mission control. NASA cannot put the instruments in glass cases, because they are using the instruments, so they would need staff to stop visitors touching stuff.
** Also lacking is the connection between "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and "I will touch it." Just because you ''can'' doesn't mean that you either ''will'' or ''have'' to touch it.
*** That really depends. The British Museum for example keeps a great number of statues and stone tablets uncased, for example. Cases are mostly reserved for really fragile items.
** Better example, Visitors to NASA mission control. NASA cannot put the instruments in glass cases, because they are using the instruments, so they would need staff to stop visitors touching stuff.
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Also called the Politician's Syllogism and the Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle.
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Also called the Politician's Syllogism and the Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle.
Syllogism.
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->-- '''StephenColbert''', ''TheColbertReport''
!!! Also called
* The Politician's Syllogism, The Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle.
:: Using a standard 3-step proof-of-concept to prove your theory, but including one unconnected tenet which breaks the line of reasoning. Results from equivocation -- that is, a single term is used two (or more) times, in differing contexts with different meanings; and yet the argument treats the two usages as exactly the same, since the same term was used. It's best explained by this example from ''LandOfTheBlind.''
-->A dry crust of bread is better than nothing\\
!!! Also called
* The Politician's Syllogism, The Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle.
:: Using a standard 3-step proof-of-concept to prove your theory, but including one unconnected tenet which breaks the line of reasoning. Results from equivocation -- that is, a single term is used two (or more) times, in differing contexts with different meanings; and yet the argument treats the two usages as exactly the same, since the same term was used. It's best explained by this example from ''LandOfTheBlind.''
-->A dry crust of bread is better than nothing\\
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:: This uses two different meanings of the word "nothing." The first line uses "nothing" to mean "a lack of food", while the second line uses "nothing" as "no such thing exists."
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** Bad example of physically able to = can = am permitted to. Most museums put stuff in cases when they don't want visitors to touch them and vice-versa.
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** Bad example of physically able to = can = am permitted to. Most museums put stuff in cases when they don't want visitors to touch them and vice-versa. vice-versa.
** Also lacking is the connection between "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and "I will touch it." Just because you ''can'' doesn't mean that you either ''will'' or ''have'' to touch it.
** Also lacking is the connection between "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and "I will touch it." Just because you ''can'' doesn't mean that you either ''will'' or ''have'' to touch it.
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* The four terms here are 1: "it is not in a glass case" 2: "I can (am physically able to) touch it", 3: "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and 4: "I will touch it". If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).
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--> The four terms here are 1: "it is not in a glass case" 2: "I can (am physically able to) touch it", 3: "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and 4: "I will touch it". If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).
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* In a museum, an employee sees a patron tapping on one of the replicas with his fist. Employee: "Sir, please don't touch that." Patron: "But it's a replica, isn't it?" Employee: "Yes, it is, but we still ask for you not to touch it." Patron: "Well, it's not under a glass case, which means it's not valuable. I have every right to touch it." Employer: "No, actually-" Patron: "Yes, if I see something that's not cased, it means I can touch it, AND I WILL TOUCH IT!" The four terms here are 1: "it is not in a glass case" 2: "I can (am physically able to) touch it", 3: "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and 4: "I will touch it". If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).
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* In a museum, an employee sees a patron tapping on one of the replicas with his fist. Employee: "Sir,
-->'''Employee:''' Sir, please don't touchthat." Patron: "But that.
-->'''Patron:''' But it's a replica, isn'tit?" Employee: "Yes, it?
-->'''Employee:''' Yes, it is, but we still ask for you not to touchit." Patron: "Well, it.
-->'''Patron:''' Well, it's not under a glass case, which means it's not valuable. I have every right to touchit." Employer: "No, actually-" Patron: "Yes, it.
-->'''Employer:''' No, actually-
-->'''Patron:''' Yes, if I see something that's not cased, it means I can touch it, AND I WILL TOUCHIT!" IT!
* The four terms here are 1: "it is not in a glass case" 2: "I can (am physically able to) touch it", 3: "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and 4: "I will touch it". If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).
-->'''Employee:''' Sir, please don't touch
-->'''Patron:''' But it's a replica, isn't
-->'''Employee:''' Yes, it is, but we still ask for you not to touch
-->'''Patron:''' Well, it's not under a glass case, which means it's not valuable. I have every right to touch
-->'''Employer:''' No, actually-
-->'''Patron:''' Yes, if I see something that's not cased, it means I can touch it, AND I WILL TOUCH
* The four terms here are 1: "it is not in a glass case" 2: "I can (am physically able to) touch it", 3: "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and 4: "I will touch it". If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).
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** Bad example of physically able to = can = am permitted to. Most museums put stuff in cases when they don't want visitors to touch them and vice-versa.
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** Bad example of physically able to = can = am permitted to. Most museums put stuff in cases when they don't want visitors to touch them and vice-versa.
*** That really depends. The British Museum for example keeps a great number of statues and stone tablets uncased, for example. Cases are mostly reserved for really fragile items.
*** That really depends. The British Museum for example keeps a great number of statues and stone tablets uncased, for example. Cases are mostly reserved for really fragile items.
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** Similarly, Anadin pain pills used to be marketed with the slogan "Nothing acts faster than Anadin", prompting the zinger "So take nothing - it's cheaper".
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** Bad example of physically able to = can = am permitted to. Most museums put stuff in cases when they don't want visitors to touch them and vice-versa.
** Better example, Visitors to NASA mission control. NASA cannot put the instruments in glass cases, because they are using the instruments, so they would need staff to stop visitors touching stuff.
** Better example, Visitors to NASA mission control. NASA cannot put the instruments in glass cases, because they are using the instruments, so they would need staff to stop visitors touching stuff.
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:: Using a standard 3-step proof-of-concept to prove your theory, but including one unconnected tenet which breaks the line of reasoning. Results from equivocation. It's best explained by this example from ''LandOfTheBlind.''
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:: Using a standard 3-step proof-of-concept to prove your theory, but including one unconnected tenet which breaks the line of reasoning. Results from equivocation.equivocation -- that is, a single term is used two (or more) times, in differing contexts with different meanings; and yet the argument treats the two usages as exactly the same, since the same term was used. It's best explained by this example from ''LandOfTheBlind.''
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* The Politician's Syllogism
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* The Politician's Syllogism
Syllogism, The Fallacy of the Undistributed Middle.
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** To be fair to politicians, this argument could be sound if you were sufficiently cynical - a politician might prefer to be seen to be doing ''anything'' about a problem, regardless of whether its a solution or not.
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* RealLife Example: In a museum, an employee sees a patron tapping on one of the replicas with his fist. Employee: "Sir, please don't touch that." Patron: "But it's a replica, isn't it?" Employee: "Yes, it is, but we still ask for you not to touch it." Patron: "Well, it's not under a glass case, which means it's not valuable. I have every right to touch it." Employer: "No, actually-" Patron: "Yes, if I see something that's not cased, it means I can touch it, AND I WILL TOUCH IT!" The four terms here are 1: "it is not in a glass case" 2: "I can (am physically able to) touch it", 3: "I can (am permitted to) touch it" and 4: "I will touch it". If 1 is true, then 2 is true; if 3 is true, then 4 is true. What's missing is the necessary step establishing either that 2 and 3 are the same (they aren't), or, that if 2 is true, 3 is true as well (it isn't).
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** Garfield has a similar philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."
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** Garfield has a similar philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."
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* There's an old joke revolving around the word ''nothing'', similar to the example above, where a bar patron turns down a beer from the bartender because "nothing is better than a cold drink".
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* There's an old joke revolving around the word ''nothing'', similar to the example above, where a bar patron turns down a beer from the bartender because "nothing is better than a cold drink".drink".
** Garfield has a similar philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."
** Garfield has a similar philosophy. "If nobody is perfect, I must be nobody."