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'''Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart:''' Chap with wings, there. Five rounds rapid.

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'''Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart:''' Chap with the wings, there. Five rounds rapid.
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* Played for laughs in ''Manga/GetterRobo Go'', where the team has decided to steal the Getter so that they can act in defiance of government orders. As it turns out, pretty much the entire base staff agrees to go along with the plan, sending in a fake report that the Getter was stolen by a RenegadeSplinterFaction and they did all they could to stop it. To make it look convincing, Hayato sends out a security team, and upon seeing the Getter take off, they all shout about it being stolen by rebels and fire at it with their assault rifles--which, needless to say, does absolutely nothing to a twenty-meter giant robot. The other soldiers look on in utter befuddlement.
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* In the ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' movie, the Mobile Infantry seems to have forgotten everything we've learned about combined arms warfare. The MI's only tactic is to attack in [[ZergRush massed numbers using small arms]] and the occasional nuke. At no point in the movie is there any evidence of artillery or close air support, tanks or armored personnel carriers, special weapons squads with mortars or heavy machine guns. Nor do the ships seem to possess the capability of the orbital equivalent of shore bombardment, despite the fact that one scene has several bombers do a strafing run on the surface (which it's implied they could do at will if they weren't {{Jerk Ass}}es). We get the barest of a glimpse of such things in a flashforward near the end, where a trooper has what is functionally a grenade launcher. They do use a rocket launcher against two gigantic plasma bugs in the first major battle and later on a 'mini-nuke' against a swarm of Arachnid soldiers emerging from a cave... then never use either weapon again, even when faced with thousands of the things attacking at once.

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* In the ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' movie, the Mobile Infantry seems to have forgotten everything we've learned about combined arms warfare. The MI's only tactic is to attack in [[ZergRush massed numbers using small arms]] and the occasional nuke. At no point in the movie is there any evidence of artillery or close air support, tanks or armored personnel carriers, special weapons squads with mortars or heavy machine guns. Nor do the ships seem to possess the capability of the orbital equivalent of shore bombardment, despite the fact that one scene has several bombers do a strafing run on the surface (which it's implied they could do at will if they weren't {{Jerk Ass}}es). We get the barest of a glimpse of such things in a flashforward near the end, where a trooper has what is functionally a grenade launcher. They do use a rocket launcher against two gigantic plasma bugs in the first major battle and later on a 'mini-nuke' against a swarm of Arachnid soldiers emerging from a cave... [[ForgottenPhlebotinum then never use either weapon again, again]], even when faced with thousands of the things attacking at once.
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* In the ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' movie, the Mobile Infantry seems to have forgotten everything we've learned about combined arms warfare. The MI's only tactic is to attack in [[ZergRush massed numbers using small arms]] and the occasional nuke. At no point in the movie is there any evidence of artillery or close air support, tanks or armored personnel carriers, special weapons squads with mortars or heavy machine guns. Nor do the ships seem to possess the capability of the orbital equivalent of shore bombardment, despite the fact that one scene has several bombers do a strafing run on the surface (which it's implied they could do at will if they weren't {{Jerk Ass}}es). We get the barest of a glimpse of such things in a flashforward near the end, where a trooper has what is functionally a grenade launcher. They do use a rocket launcher against two gigantic plasma bugs in the first major battle and a 'mini-nuke' against a swarm of Arachnid soldiers emerging from a cave... then never use either weapon again, even when faced with thousands of the things attacking at once.

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* In the ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' movie, the Mobile Infantry seems to have forgotten everything we've learned about combined arms warfare. The MI's only tactic is to attack in [[ZergRush massed numbers using small arms]] and the occasional nuke. At no point in the movie is there any evidence of artillery or close air support, tanks or armored personnel carriers, special weapons squads with mortars or heavy machine guns. Nor do the ships seem to possess the capability of the orbital equivalent of shore bombardment, despite the fact that one scene has several bombers do a strafing run on the surface (which it's implied they could do at will if they weren't {{Jerk Ass}}es). We get the barest of a glimpse of such things in a flashforward near the end, where a trooper has what is functionally a grenade launcher. They do use a rocket launcher against two gigantic plasma bugs in the first major battle and later on a 'mini-nuke' against a swarm of Arachnid soldiers emerging from a cave... then never use either weapon again, even when faced with thousands of the things attacking at once.
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* In the ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' movie, the Mobile Infantry seems to have forgotten everything we've learned about combined arms warfare. The MI's only tactic is to attack in [[ZergRush massed numbers using small arms]] and the occasional nuke. At no point in the movie is there any evidence of artillery or close air support, tanks or armored personnel carriers, special weapons squads with mortars or heavy machine guns. Nor do the ships seem to possess the capability of the orbital equivalent of shore bombardment, despite the fact that one scene has several bombers do a strafing run on the surface (which it's implied they could do at will if they weren't {{Jerk Ass}}es). We get the barest of a glimpse of such things in a flashforward near the end, where a trooper has what is functionally a grenade launcher.

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* In the ''Film/StarshipTroopers'' movie, the Mobile Infantry seems to have forgotten everything we've learned about combined arms warfare. The MI's only tactic is to attack in [[ZergRush massed numbers using small arms]] and the occasional nuke. At no point in the movie is there any evidence of artillery or close air support, tanks or armored personnel carriers, special weapons squads with mortars or heavy machine guns. Nor do the ships seem to possess the capability of the orbital equivalent of shore bombardment, despite the fact that one scene has several bombers do a strafing run on the surface (which it's implied they could do at will if they weren't {{Jerk Ass}}es). We get the barest of a glimpse of such things in a flashforward near the end, where a trooper has what is functionally a grenade launcher. They do use a rocket launcher against two gigantic plasma bugs in the first major battle and a 'mini-nuke' against a swarm of Arachnid soldiers emerging from a cave... then never use either weapon again, even when faced with thousands of the things attacking at once.
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It appears most good guys are GenreBlind. When [[RedShirtArmy military personnel]] or the [[LemmingCops police]] encounter the MonsterOfTheWeek, they invariably attack it with small arms fire. Unfortunately, this never works. The monster is always ImmuneToBullets. Thus, our heroes get an opportunity to save the day with some AppliedPhlebotinum or StockSuperPowers.

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It appears most good guys are GenreBlind. When [[RedShirtArmy military personnel]] or the [[LemmingCops police]] encounter the MonsterOfTheWeek, they invariably attack it with small arms fire. Unfortunately, this never works. The monster is always ImmuneToBullets. Thus, our heroes get an opportunity to save the day with some AppliedPhlebotinum or StockSuperPowers.
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* ''Fanfic/LeftBeyond'': Invoked when the multinational force trying to stop Armageddon at Petra fires ranging shots at the Archangel Michael. Subverted in that nobody expected the bullets to do anything to Michael; the idea was to see if their trajectory would be distorted, before committing heavier artillery.
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* In ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' story arc ''ComicBook/{{Bizarrogirl}}'', Gangbuster attempts this against an out-of-control SelfDemonstrating/{{Bizarro}}. It does not go well.

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* In ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' story arc ''ComicBook/{{Bizarrogirl}}'', Gangbuster attempts this against an out-of-control SelfDemonstrating/{{Bizarro}}.Bizarro. It does not go well.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'': The Shinra Army attempts this with bazookas and artillery fire when the naval base Junon is attacked by [[GaiasVengeance Sapphire Weapon.]] They succeeded when they fired the second shot of the Mako Cannon (the huge main gun of the base) at the Weapon point-blank range.
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*** The Brigadier later tried shooting it with the Robot's disintegrater, but the energy used enabled it to grow into a giant instead. At least the Brigadier is man enough to admit he made a mistake to the Doctor.

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*** The Brigadier later tried shooting it with the Robot's disintegrater, disintegrator, but the energy used enabled it to grow into a giant instead. At least the Brigadier is man enough to admit he made a mistake to the Doctor.
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* In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CfyU1mOZ1E this video]], Lindybeige discusses the tendency for players to unthinkingly conform to this trope in fantasy [=RPGs=] like ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', using small weapons like swords, axes, maces, etc. (all of which are designed for fighting human opponents) against huge fantasy creatures like dragons. He describes an RPG scenario where the players tried and failed to use this standard method against a house-sized monster, only to be shown up later by a unit of [=NPCs=] besting the creature using more effective specialised group tactics.

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* In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CfyU1mOZ1E this video]], Lindybeige discusses the tendency for players to unthinkingly conform to this trope in fantasy [=RPGs=] like ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', using small weapons like swords, axes, maces, etc. (all of which are designed for fighting human opponents) against huge fantasy creatures like dragons. He describes an RPG scenario where the players tried and failed to use this standard method against a house-sized monster, only to be shown up later by a unit of [=NPCs=] besting the creature using more effective specialised group tactics. Of course, the player characters will usually be using magical weapons to fight said monsters, which are more effective (and might even be enchanted to be especially effective against creatures of that type), and it's quite rare for the party to be allowed access to siege weapons like catapults or ballistas.
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* Internally conversed by Peter in ''Literature/MyTeacherFlunkedThePlanet''; when the police discover Big Julie in the house, Peter muses that in a bad sci-fi movie, they'd be back in a few minutes with a few men and some guns, following this trope. As the town already knew that aliens existed, though, [[DefiedTrope they were likely going to be coming back with a heck of a lot more firepower than that]]. The ''only'' good news is that it would take the police some time to get that firepower ready, which gives Peter and the other team members enough time to evacuate. ''Just'' enough, as it turns out.

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* Internally conversed {{convers|ationalTroping}}ed by Peter in ''Literature/MyTeacherFlunkedThePlanet''; when the police discover Big Julie in the house, Peter muses that in a bad sci-fi movie, they'd be back in a few minutes with a few men and some guns, following this trope. As the town already knew that aliens existed, though, [[DefiedTrope they were likely going to be coming back with a heck of a lot more firepower than that]]. The ''only'' good news is that it would take the police some time to get that firepower ready, which gives Peter and the other team members enough time to evacuate. ''Just'' enough, as it turns out.
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** In ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', the united Wakandan army forms a defense against Thanos' forces using nothing but infantry and a few enhanced individuals. This is despite the fact that ''Film/BlackPanther'' showed they had a full airforce backed up by war rhinos. They change tactics in ''Film/AvengersEndgame'', and bring their air support to the final battle, which helps even the playing field.
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* ''Fanfic/TheSecretReturnOfAlexMack'': Played straight when Italian soldiers continue to shoot the silicate monsters after being told, and seeing for themselves, that bullets don't work. [[LampshadedTrope Terawatt finds herself wondering if there's actually a military rule requiring them to keep shooting]].
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* ''Fanfic/SarumanOfManyDevices'': Invoked verbatim by Lurtz when facing the Balrog. {{Justified|trope}} since he was mostly just keeping up the troops' morale while preparing his ''real'' plan, although the impacts did actually provide some informative feedback on the Balrog's structure (a physical shell that can be broken, surrounding a magical core that apparently can't).
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Compare with ShootingSuperman and GiantEqualsInvincible. Contrast with DeathOfAThousandCuts, which is when a relatively small weapon is used exclusively against a large target and ''succeeds''. See also UnderequippedCharge.

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Compare with ShootingSuperman and GiantEqualsInvincible. Contrast with DeathOfAThousandCuts, which is when a relatively small weapon is used exclusively (and extensively) against a large target and ''succeeds''. See also UnderequippedCharge.
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* Inverted in ''Manga/AssassinationClassroom''; Irina and her men tries to kill Koro-sensei by using machine guns instead of airsoft guns. It doesn't work, since Koro-sensei's body dissolves lead but is blown to chunks by airsoft bullets [[AppliedPhlebotinum made of a special material]].

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* Inverted in ''Manga/AssassinationClassroom''; Irina and her men tries to kill Koro-sensei by using machine guns instead of airsoft guns. It doesn't work, since Koro-sensei's body dissolves lead but is blown to chunks by airsoft bullets [[AppliedPhlebotinum [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells made of a special material]].
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* Initially averted, then played straighter in ''WesternAnimation/TheIronGiant'', where the U.S. military immediately deploys tanks once they learn about the giant. It doesn't work at all, and the military quickly start fleeing, but they do [[IWillFightSomeMoreForever keep trying to shoot]] at the giant with whatever they've got left - in the General's case, his ''pistol''.
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An important part of this trope is that, in almost all cases, the good guys will ''only'' ever use small arms fire instead of escalating. Rockets, tanks, air support, artillery — all the things the military is known for — are rarely involved, even if the monster is gigantic. Not only are they more expensive for the producers to incorporate in to the film/show, in most cases, they might actually work, thereby stealing the thunder of the heroes of the story.

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An important part of this trope is that, in almost all cases, the good guys will ''only'' ever use small arms fire instead of escalating. Rockets, tanks, air support, artillery — all the things the military is known for — are rarely involved, even if the monster is gigantic. Not only are they more expensive for the producers to incorporate in to the film/show, in most cases, they might actually work, thereby stealing the thunder of the heroes of the story.
story. Even if they do get used, they [[TanksForNothing still probably won't work]].
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[[caption-width-right:350: They're gonna need a bigger gun.]]

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* Tanks in ''VideoGame/RedOrchestra'' aren't particularly fussed by small arms. Doesn't stop players taking potshots at the hull. [[{{Subverted}} Sometimes they'll hit a crew member looking through a vision slit.]]

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* Tanks in ''VideoGame/RedOrchestra'' aren't particularly fussed by small arms. Doesn't stop arms, not that it stops players taking potshots at the hull. [[{{Subverted}} Sometimes [[JustifiedTrope There's a reason for that]]: sometimes they'll [[SnipingTheCockpit hit a crew member looking through a vision slit.]]slit]].
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Compare with ShootingSuperman and GiantEqualsInvincible. Contrast with DeathOfAThousandCuts, which is when a relatively small weapon is used against a large target and ''succeeds''. See also UnderequippedCharge.

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Compare with ShootingSuperman and GiantEqualsInvincible. Contrast with DeathOfAThousandCuts, which is when a relatively small weapon is used exclusively against a large target and ''succeeds''. See also UnderequippedCharge.
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** In ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'', Ross' group keeps doing this to the title monster.

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** In ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'', Ross' group keeps doing this to special forces keep attacking the title monster.titular hero with little more than rifles, machine guns, and grenade launchers, ''long'' after he's proven to be ImmuneToBullets (riflemen also engage [[spoiler:Abomination]] towards the end of the film). Going by the fact that the grenade launchers at least hurt him, and the shrapnel from a helicopter crash actually causes him to bleed, heavier weapons ''would'' presumably work, but they're never tried. Even when they bring in a gunship, it only opens fire with 7.62mm miniguns, and seems to lack the rocket pods and anti-tank guided missiles it would normally have. The lack of weapons that would actually kill him could be potentially justified by the fact that Ross is explicitly trying to take the Hulk alive, but that doesn't justify sending riflemen after him... three separate times. [[spoiler:As for the Abomination, he was in the middle of Harlem, so leveling the block with airstrikes/artillery to take him down probably wasn't an option.]]

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* ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'':
** Infantry squads armed with standard rifles aren't exactly a good choice to take on an assault mech, but they can potentially be a serious threat to light mechs. The game's rules mean that even infantry rifles can, if massed, damage heavy units. However, if an infantry squad falls below a certain number due to casualties then it will be unable to inflict any damage at all.
** Rifle Cannons are a weapon system (basically modern tank cannons) that are almost completely ineffective against Battlemech armor. However, they're obsolete and aside from a few extremely low-tech planets that can't produce anything better, nobody in the Battletech universe actually builds them.
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* An available character option on Cubicle Seven's ''Series/DoctorWho'' RPG has this name (appropriately enough it's within its UNIT sourcebook), which allows the character to skip the standard order of the game's initiative (people who talk always go first, people who fight always go ''very'' last), allowing for a very literal use of TalkToTheFist.

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* An available character option on Cubicle Seven's ''Series/DoctorWho'' RPG ''TabletopGame/DoctorWhoAdventuresInTimeAndSpace'' has this name (appropriately enough it's within its UNIT sourcebook), which allows the character to skip the standard order of the game's initiative (people who talk always go first, people who fight always go ''very'' last), allowing for a very literal use of TalkToTheFist.
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*** This concept carries over to ''[[{{VideoGame/StarTrekOnline}} Star Trek Online]]'', where ground weapons that deal Physical or Kinetic damage - such as the TR-116B Sniper Rifle and the Replica Thompson Submachine Gun - are highly effective against the Borg (with the latter being particularly effective against groups of Borg drones).
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-->'''Burt''': Haha! Tried to break into the wrong ''rec room'', didn't ya!

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-->'''Burt''': Haha! Tried to break Broke into the wrong ''rec ''wrong goddamn rec room'', didn't ya!
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* Many RTS games will have players doing this, especially if they involve TacticalRockPaperScissors in some way. Infantry might do half damage to tanks, but they're [[WeHaveReserves cheap]] to replace.
** ElementalRockPaperScissors has the same effect. Fire type does half damage to water type? [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer I guess if it's all that's available...]]
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*** In the sequel, ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'', when "Monster Zero" (Ghidorah) awakens in the Antarctic, Monarch's troops unload their assault rifles on him. He just looks curiously at them before disintegrating them with his Gravity Beams.

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