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31st Aug '17 2:00:48 AM HalcyonDayz
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* In the ''Manga/ElfenLied'' anime, security guards would just stand and shoot at Lucy with their MP5's till they either run out of ammo or get ripped to shreds. It wasn't until later they started using high caliber/armor piercing rounds against them [[TooDumbTolive even though a flashback shows they've known for years regular ammo doesn't work on a Diclonius]]. They might have been hoping that the combined assault would get through a hole in her vector defense, but it still is a suicidal action.

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* In the ''Manga/ElfenLied'' anime, security guards would just stand and shoot at Lucy with their MP5's [=MP5=]'s till they either run out of ammo or get ripped to shreds. It wasn't until later they started using high caliber/armor piercing rounds against them [[TooDumbTolive even though a flashback shows they've known for years regular ammo doesn't work on a Diclonius]]. They might have been hoping that the combined assault would get through a hole in her vector defense, but it still is a suicidal action.
29th Aug '17 10:39:26 PM ElSquibbonator
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Compare with ShootingSuperman. Contrast with DeathOfAThousandCuts.

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Compare with ShootingSuperman. Contrast with DeathOfAThousandCuts.
DeathOfAThousandCuts, which is when a relatively small weapon is used against a large target and ''succeeds''.
27th Jul '17 11:34:50 PM marcoasalazarm
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* An available character option on Cubicle Seven's ''Series/DoctorWho'' RPG has this name (appropiately enough it's within its UNIT sourcebook), which allows the character to skip the standard order of the game's initiative (people who talk always go first, people who fight always go ''very'' last), allowing for a very literal use of TalkToTheFist.
27th Jul '17 10:54:38 PM TheBigBopper
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* In ''Film/JurassicWorld'', the Asset Containment Unit and [=InGen=] Security troopers are mostly equipped with assault rifles and shotguns which seem rather inadequate for killing 40 foot long genetically engineered monsters, and barely cause any damage to the ''I. Rex''. The M134 minigun and an AT4 missile launcher might have taken her out if they hadn't missed in the chaotic combat conditions, and it seems like the disaster could have been mitigated if management had had the foresight to stock more of those high caliber and explosive weapons.

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* In ''Film/JurassicWorld'', the Asset Containment Unit and [=InGen=] Security troopers are mostly equipped with assault rifles and shotguns which seem rather inadequate for killing 40 foot long genetically engineered monsters, and barely cause any damage to the ''I. Rex''. The M134 minigun and an AT4 [=AT4=] missile launcher might have taken her out if they hadn't missed in the chaotic combat conditions, and it seems like the disaster could have been mitigated if management had had the foresight to stock more of those high caliber big guns and explosive weapons.
25th May '17 2:04:47 AM CHLORINEGARGOYLE
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* ''Film/IndependenceDay'' follows this trope on a larger scale when the human resistance limits itself to air-to-air missiles when firing on the miles-wide alien mothership. The one time they scale up to a nuke, the nuke has no visible effect on the aliens, and they call off the attack. It is never explained why they don't use nukes ''after'' the shields are taken down, and still have at the ''humongous ships'' with rockets. To their defence they do eventually figure out how to use ''those'' effecticvely, but only after protracted air battles that cost many pilots their lives.

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* ''Film/IndependenceDay'' follows this trope on a larger scale when the human resistance limits itself to air-to-air missiles when firing on the miles-wide alien mothership. The one time they scale up to a nuke, the nuke has no visible effect on the aliens, and they call off the attack. It is never explained why they don't use nukes ''after'' the shields are taken down, and still have at the ''humongous ships'' with rockets. To their defence they do eventually figure out how to use ''those'' effecticvely, but only after protracted air battles that cost many pilots their lives.
13th May '17 5:10:19 AM Fallingwater
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* ''Film/IndependenceDay'' follows this trope on a larger scale when the human resistance limits itself to air-to-air missiles when firing on the miles-wide alien mothership. The one time they scale up to a nuke, the nuke has no visible effect on the aliens, and they call off the attack.

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* ''Film/IndependenceDay'' follows this trope on a larger scale when the human resistance limits itself to air-to-air missiles when firing on the miles-wide alien mothership. The one time they scale up to a nuke, the nuke has no visible effect on the aliens, and they call off the attack. It is never explained why they don't use nukes ''after'' the shields are taken down, and still have at the ''humongous ships'' with rockets. To their defence they do eventually figure out how to use ''those'' effecticvely, but only after protracted air battles that cost many pilots their lives.
23rd Apr '17 9:40:41 AM nombretomado
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* This tends to be the Enforcers' solution to whatever the problem is in ''SwatKats''.

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* This tends to be the Enforcers' solution to whatever the problem is in ''SwatKats''.''WesternAnimation/SwatKats''.
2nd Apr '17 10:48:45 AM nombretomado
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** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures novel ''No Future'', in which the villain (who is ''not'' ImmuneToBullets) is standing next to PaulMcCartney. The Brigadier promptly orders "Chap with 'Music/{{Wings}}', five rounds rapid!".

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** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures novel ''No Future'', in which the villain (who is ''not'' ImmuneToBullets) is standing next to PaulMcCartney.Music/PaulMcCartney. The Brigadier promptly orders "Chap with 'Music/{{Wings}}', five rounds rapid!".
22nd Mar '17 7:13:28 PM AthenaBlue
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*** He even lampshades his own trope, ''naming another trope'' in the process: ''"You know just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets."''

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*** He even lampshades his own trope, ''naming another trope'' in the process: ''"You know just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune {{immune to bullets.bullets}}."''
22nd Mar '17 7:11:37 PM AthenaBlue
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-->-- ''Series/DoctorWho'', "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E5TheDaemons The Daemons]]"

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-->-- ''Series/DoctorWho'', "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E5TheDaemons The Daemons]]"
[[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E5TheDaemons "The Dæmons"]]



* Parodied in ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' with a supposedly invulnerable demon, who with his final words reminds Buffy that he can not be killed by any weapon forged by man. But that was [[TechnologyMarchesOn a thousand years ago]] and a [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill rocket launcher does the job perfectly fine]].[[note]]Technically it just blew him into smithereens and he would be able to reform if someone collected the pieces again, but who's counting?[[/note]]
** Similarly in the Season 3 finale, they take out the recently powered up BigBad by packing the school library with ANFO.



** A particularly hilarious example was in the second Ice Warriors serial, ''The Seeds of Death''. Despite being set centuries into Earth's future, apparently the only gun used by security forces are turn of the 20th century broomhandle Mauser pistols. Sure, the Ice Warriors are ImmuneToBullets, but that's not even ''trying''. In the last episode, one character does suggest arming the guards with flamethrowers instead, but (presumably for reasons of budget) the Doctor saves the day before this happens.

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** A particularly hilarious example was in the second Ice Warriors serial, ''The [[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E5TheSeedsOfDeath "The Seeds of Death''.Death"]]. Despite being set centuries into Earth's future, apparently the only gun used by security forces are turn of the 20th century broomhandle Mauser pistols. Sure, the Ice Warriors are ImmuneToBullets, but that's not even ''trying''. In the last episode, one character does suggest arming the guards with flamethrowers instead, but (presumably for reasons of budget) the Doctor saves the day before this happens.



** Notably, in the new series episode "Doomsday", British military forces ''are'' seen to deploy a rocket launcher against attacking Cybermen after small arms fail.
** UNIT actually destroy several Cybermen with bazookas and grenades in their first encounter with them back in "The Invasion". ("Attack of the Cybermen" went one better by having a Cyberman killed by repeated shots from a ''handgun''.) Another massive subversion is the Zygons, who appear to have no immunity to bullets whatsoever and are killed or injured every time they get shot.
** The Brigadier calls for tank support in ''Robot'', but the titular menace disintegrates the first tank before it can get into firing position.
*** Brigadier later tried shooting it with the Robot's disintegrater, but the energy used enabled it to grow into a giant instead. At least the Brigadier is man enough to admit he made a mistake to the Doctor.

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** Notably, in the new series New Series episode "Doomsday", [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E13Doomsday "Doomsday"]], British military forces ''are'' seen to deploy a rocket launcher against attacking Cybermen after small arms fail.
** UNIT actually destroy destroys several Cybermen with bazookas and grenades in their first encounter with them back in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E3THeInvasion "The Invasion". ("Attack Invasion"]]. ([[Recap/DoctorWhoS22E1AttackOfTheCybermen "Attack of the Cybermen" Cybermen"]] went one better by having a Cyberman killed by repeated shots from a ''handgun''.) Another massive subversion is the Zygons, who appear to have no immunity to bullets whatsoever and are killed or injured every time they get shot.
** The Brigadier calls for tank support in ''Robot'', [[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E1Robot "Robot"]], but the titular menace disintegrates the first tank before it can get into firing position.
*** The Brigadier later tried shooting it with the Robot's disintegrater, but the energy used enabled it to grow into a giant instead. At least the Brigadier is man enough to admit he made a mistake to the Doctor.



*** This line is also used in an anime episode based on Doctor Who.
** Double subverted in the Ninth Doctor's final story "The Parting of the Ways", where Captain Jack Harkness gives a group of volunteers under his command "bastic" bullets he is convinced will "blow a Dalek wide open". However, he fails to take into account the Daleks' new bullet-dissipating forcefields, which render the rounds useless. Bitterly lampshaded when a minor character despairingly declares "They're not working!" moments before she gets Exterminated.
** Played straight in the Tenth Doctor episode "The Poison Sky", where the Doctor's frantic pleas to UNIT to listen to him when he says no matter how many troops are deployed, guns will not work against Sontarans (due to their sonic waves that cause copper to expand, jamming traditional bullets in their chambers) fall upon deaf ears and the Doctor and UNIT command wind up being forced to listen to their troops being slaughtered over the comm system. The Doctor is [[RageBreakingPoint less than impressed.]]
*** Later subverted when UNIT switches out guns for ones that won't be effected by the sonic waves, which allows UNIT to slaughter them.
** In what may be a television first, a foe of the Tenth Doctor's attempts to lift off from London without enough power to activate her energy shield defenses--and is taken out by a single round from a British Army tank! Even TV series set in World War II (''Combat'' and ''Rat Patrol'', for example) traditionally avoid spending money on tanks.

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*** This line is also used in an anime episode based on Doctor Who.
** Double subverted in the Ninth Doctor's final story [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E13ThePartingOfTheWays "The Parting of the Ways", Ways"]], where Captain Jack Harkness gives a group of volunteers under his command "bastic" bullets he is convinced will "blow a Dalek wide open". However, he fails to take into account the Daleks' new bullet-dissipating forcefields, which render the rounds useless. Bitterly lampshaded when a minor character despairingly declares "They're not working!" moments before she gets Exterminated.
** Played straight in the Tenth Doctor episode [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E5ThePoisonSky "The Poison Sky", Sky"]], where the Doctor's frantic pleas to UNIT to listen to him when he says no matter how many troops are deployed, guns will not work against Sontarans (due to their sonic waves that cause copper to expand, jamming traditional bullets in their chambers) fall upon deaf ears and the Doctor and UNIT command wind up being forced to listen to their troops being slaughtered over the comm system. The Doctor is [[RageBreakingPoint less than impressed.]]
*** Later subverted when UNIT switches out guns bullets for ones that won't be effected by the sonic waves, which allows UNIT to slaughter them.
** In what may be a television first, in [[Recap/DoctorWho2006CSTheRunawayBride "The Runaway Bride"]] a foe of the Tenth Doctor's attempts to lift off from London without enough power to activate her energy shield defenses--and is taken out by a single round from a British Army tank! Even TV series set in World War II (''Combat'' and ''Rat Patrol'', for example) traditionally avoid spending money on tanks.



** And finally averted in the episode ''Battlefield'', where it is revealed UNIT has invested in specialized rounds for different alien threats, which work just fine. The new series adds 'rad-steel' rounds for counteracting [[AppliedPhlebotinum anti-bullet fields]]. It's probably a subversion in the sense that said bullets are only deployed after normal bullets fail. On top of that, guess who gets to put the fatal Five Rounds into the BigBad?.
*** Lampshaded in the Easter special "Planet Of The Dead", when Captain Magambo is heard to shout "I don't believe it! Guns that work!" as rocket launchers tear apart aliens.
** Brought back once again in ''The Zygon Inversion'', when [[spoiler:the Brigadier's daughter is asked how she got away from a Zygon attack.]]

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** And finally averted in the episode ''Battlefield'', [[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield "Battlefield"]], where it is revealed UNIT has invested in specialized rounds for different alien threats, which work just fine. The new series adds 'rad-steel' rounds for counteracting [[AppliedPhlebotinum anti-bullet fields]]. It's probably a subversion in the sense that said bullets are only deployed after normal bullets fail. On top of that, guess who gets to put the fatal Five Rounds into the BigBad?.
*** Lampshaded in the Easter special [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E15PlanetOfTheDead "Planet Of The Dead", Dead"]], when Captain Magambo is heard to shout "I don't believe it! Guns that work!" as rocket launchers tear apart aliens.
** Brought back once again in ''The [[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E8TheZygonInversion "The Zygon Inversion'', Inversion"]], when [[spoiler:the Brigadier's daughter is asked how she got away from a Zygon attack.]]attack, and namedrops the trope.]]
* In the ''Series/{{Lost}}'' episode "The Shape of Things to Come," at least one of the ex-military mercenaries fires at the monster, which is composed of thick black smoke. Naturally, it doesn't do much except get the guy killed.
* In ''Series/PowerRangersTimeForce'', a for-hire defense force called the Silver Guardians often arrives before the Rangers do. Invariably, they are able to dispense with some of the MechaMooks but the MonsterOfTheWeek and/or TheDragon (whichever is present) are [[ImmuneToBullets another story entirely]] and the Guardians are having the daylights bashed out them by the time the Rangers arrive. And they return again the next week with the same weapons and tactics, [[GenreBlindness still not having learned their lesson]].
** Let's not forget that, like much {{Sentai}}, {{Shonen}}, and MonsterOfTheWeek stuff, ALL ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' shows focus on the rangers going through their own private counterpart to the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil. See that monster? Think you can actually just defeat it with a punch? Why not just whip out the combined 'Zord and stomp it into jelly to start with? Because then the show would be over before the first commercial break. A HandWave in the first episode of the first Power Rangers series mentions that they're not supposed to fight unless provoked, and not to escalate a confrontation unless absolutely necessary. To be fair, the Power Rangers aren't really a military force in the strictest sense.
*** There's a logic to this. First of all, think about the scale of the Rangers' mecha. How long do you think the people of Random City A would put up with the Rangers if they called out a skyscraper-crushing giant robot to step on a human-sized monster like a grape? Secondly, if the villains saw that the Rangers were going to bust out the heavy artillery straight away, they'd feel compelled to escalate their own attacks...



* In ''Series/PowerRangersTimeForce'', a for-hire defense force called the Silver Guardians often arrives before the Rangers do. Invariably, they are able to dispense with some of the MechaMooks but the MonsterOfTheWeek and/or TheDragon (whichever is present) are [[ImmuneToBullets another story entirely]] and the Guardians are having the daylights bashed out them by the time the Rangers arrive. And they return again the next week with the same weapons and tactics, [[GenreBlindness still not having learned their lesson]].
** Let's not forget that, like much {{Sentai}}, {{Shonen}}, and MonsterOfTheWeek stuff, ALL ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' shows focus on the rangers going through their own private counterpart to the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil. See that monster? Think you can actually just defeat it with a punch? Why not just whip out the combined 'Zord and stomp it into jelly to start with? Because then the show would be over before the first commercial break. A HandWave in the first episode of the first Power Rangers series mentions that they're not supposed to fight unless provoked, and not to escalate a confrontation unless absolutely necessary. To be fair, the Power Rangers aren't really a military force in the strictest sense.
*** There's a logic to this. First of all, think about the scale of the Rangers' mecha. How long do you think the people of Random City A would put up with the Rangers if they called out a skyscraper-crushing giant robot to step on a human-sized monster like a grape? Secondly, if the villains saw that the Rangers were going to bust out the heavy artillery straight away, they'd feel compelled to escalate their own attacks...
* In the ''Series/{{Lost}}'' episode "The Shape of Things to Come," at least one of the ex-military mercenaries fires at the monster, which is composed of thick black smoke. Naturally, it doesn't do much except get the guy killed.
* Parodied in ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' with a supposedly invulnerable demon, who with his final words reminds Buffy that he can not be killed by any weapon forged by man. But that was [[TechnologyMarchesOn a thousand years ago]] and a [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill rocket launcher does the job perfectly fine]].[[note]]Technically it just blew him into smithereens and he would be able to reform if someone collected the pieces again, but who's counting?[[/note]]
** Similarly in the Season 3 finale, they take out the recently powered up BigBad by packing the school library with ANFO.
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