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1st Feb '18 7:00:55 PM nombretomado
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* Lampshaded with the E1s (Reverse-engineered Mega Man-style units used by the government) versus Spike Man in MSPaintMasterpieces.

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* Lampshaded with the E1s (Reverse-engineered Mega Man-style units used by the government) versus Spike Man in MSPaintMasterpieces.''Webcomic/MSPaintMasterpieces''.
31st Jan '18 12:14:28 PM DragonFury117
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** More to the point, they used ONE small tactical nuclear weapon in its low-yield mode (due to concern for collateral damage), and the cowardly President immediately called off the strike as useless even though they had an entire squadron of B-2 stealth bombers in position. Each B-2 carries *sixteen* of those tactical nuclear missiles and the high yield setting is 210 kilotons as opposed to 17 kilotons. Just because the alien ship's shields could withstand ONE 17-kiloton hit doesn't mean it could withstand hundreds of 210-kiloton hits!
24th Jan '18 5:13:34 AM lillolillo
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-->'''Ritsuko''': "A waste of the taxpayers' money."
-->'''Misato''': "I guess the military types just won't be satisfied until they've fired all their bullets."

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-->'''Ritsuko''': --->'''Ritsuko''': "A waste of the taxpayers' money."
-->'''Misato''':
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'''Misato''':
"I guess the military types just won't be satisfied until they've fired all their bullets."



*** In the series, by the last handful of angels they've gotten so strong even the Eva tactics and weapons no longer work. Instead they usually require a miraculous last minute unexpected save, usually Eva 01's berserker mode. The final two (not counting the actual last one, who wasn't really fought) were too much for even that, needing Nerv's strongest one shot weapon, which really was needed for other things wasted on the former, and an Eva self-destructing, for the latter.
* Happens way too often in ''[[Anime/{{Gravion}} Gravion Zwei]]''. The Military will ignore all requests to kindly sit the fuck down and let the giant robot handle it. The Gravion itself partially follows this trope, for some reason they always try the tiny machine guns first, when even in a real robot show, that weapon would do jack shit.

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*** In the series, by the last handful of angels they've gotten so strong even the Eva tactics and weapons no longer work. Instead they usually require a miraculous last minute unexpected save, usually Eva 01's berserker mode. The final two (not counting the actual last one, who wasn't really fought) were too much for even that, needing Nerv's strongest one shot weapon, which really was needed for other things wasted on the former, and an Eva self-destructing, for the latter.
* Happens way too often in ''[[Anime/{{Gravion}} Gravion Zwei]]''.''Anime/{{Gravion}} Zwei''. The Military will ignore all requests to kindly sit the fuck down and let the giant robot handle it. The Gravion itself partially follows this trope, for some reason they always try the tiny machine guns first, when even in a real robot show, that weapon would do jack shit.



--->'''Hawkeye''': They [guns] don't work on anything these days...

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--->'''Hawkeye''': -->'''Hawkeye''': They [guns] don't work on anything these days...



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* In ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'', Starr attempts this against [[ImmuneToBullets The Saint Of Killers]], several times. It does not go well, ever, but Starr refuses to learn his lesson and just keeps upping the ante. [[spoiler: After waves of the Grail's elite troops have fallen without even slowing the Saint down, Starr commandeers a ''tank battalion'', getting them all killed in the process. When ''that'' fails, Starr orders a [[NukeEm nuclear bomb]] dropped. In the heart of the mushroom cloud, the Saint looks around, spits contemptously, and growls [[BadAssBoast "Not enough gun."]]]]

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* In ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'', Starr ''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}'' story arc ''ComicBook/{{Bizarrogirl}}'', Gangbuster attempts this against [[ImmuneToBullets The Saint Of Killers]], several times. an out-of-control SelfDemonstrating/{{Bizarro}}. It does not go well, ever, but Starr refuses well.
-->'''Gangbuster:''' Tried to... get her away from everybody... Turns out she's not vulnerable...
to learn his lesson and just keeps upping the ante. [[spoiler: After waves of the Grail's elite troops have fallen without even slowing the Saint down, Starr commandeers a ''tank battalion'', getting them all killed in the process. When ''that'' fails, Starr orders a [[NukeEm nuclear bomb]] dropped. In the heart of the mushroom cloud, the Saint looks around, spits contemptously, and growls [[BadAssBoast "Not enough gun."]]]]bullets...



** ''Film/ShinGodzilla'' has the US military, UN forces, and the JSDF try to stop Godzilla by using everything they got (leading to a few scene-for-scene remakes of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'') and actually get a good hit into him [[spoiler:before he completely wipes them out with his atomic barrage.]] All of this as [[VillainSong "Who Will Know]] [[TearJerker/{{Godzilla}} (Tragedy)"]] [[AwesomeMusic/{{Godzilla}} plays over it]].

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** ''Film/ShinGodzilla'' has the US military, UN forces, and the JSDF try to stop Godzilla by using everything they got (leading to a few scene-for-scene remakes of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'') and actually get a good hit into him [[spoiler:before he completely wipes them out with his atomic barrage.]] All of this as [[VillainSong "Who Will Know]] [[TearJerker/{{Godzilla}} (Tragedy)"]] [[AwesomeMusic/{{Godzilla}} Know (Tragedy)" plays over it]].it.
9th Jan '18 3:41:04 AM DesiArcy
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** More to the point, they used ONE small tactical nuclear weapon in its low-yield mode (due to concern for collateral damage), and the cowardly President immediately called off the strike as useless even though they had an entire squadron of B-2 stealth bombers in position. Each B-2 carries *sixteen* of those tactical nuclear missiles and the high yield setting is 210 kilotons as opposed to 17 kilotons. Just because the alien ship's shields could withstand ONE 17-kiloton hit doesn't mean it could withstand hundreds of 210-kiloton hits!
27th Dec '17 9:51:12 PM infernape612
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* [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk The Incredible Hulk]] Ross's group keeps doing this to the title monster.

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* [[Film/TheIncredibleHulk The Incredible Hulk]] In ''Film/TheIncredibleHulk'', Ross's group keeps doing this to the title monster.monster.
* Averted in ''Film/{{Tremors}}''. Burt and Heather Gummer actually ''are'' able to kill the second Graboid with overwhelming small arms fire.
10th Nov '17 11:16:48 AM Exxolon
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An important part of this trope is that, in almost all cases, the good guys will ''only'' ever use small arms fire instead of escalating. Rockets, tanks, air support, artillery -- all the things the military is known for -- are rarely involved, even if the monster is gigantic. Not only are they more expensive for the producers to incorporate in to the film/show, in most cases, they might actually work, thereby stealing the thunder of the heroes of the story.[[note]]Actually averted in the TropeNamer episode of ''Series/DoctorWho'' when after the animated gargoyle shrugs off massed rifle fire and disintegrates a soldier, they use a bazooka to blow him up.[[/note]]

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An important part of this trope is that, in almost all cases, the good guys will ''only'' ever use small arms fire instead of escalating. Rockets, tanks, air support, artillery -- all the things the military is known for -- are rarely involved, even if the monster is gigantic. Not only are they more expensive for the producers to incorporate in to the film/show, in most cases, they might actually work, thereby stealing the thunder of the heroes of the story.[[note]]Actually averted in the TropeNamer episode of ''Series/DoctorWho'' when after the animated gargoyle shrugs off massed rifle fire and disintegrates a soldier, they use a bazooka to blow him up.[[/note]]
story.
10th Nov '17 11:16:26 AM Exxolon
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An important part of this trope is that, in almost all cases, the good guys will ''only'' ever use small arms fire instead of escalating. Rockets, tanks, air support, artillery -- all the things the military is known for -- are rarely involved, even if the monster is gigantic. Not only are they more expensive for the producers to incorporate in to the film/show, in most cases, they might actually work, thereby stealing the thunder of the heroes of the story.[[note]]Actually averted in the TropeNamer episode of ''Series/DoctorWho'' when after the Dæmon shrugs off massed rifle fire and disintegrates a soldier, they use a bazooka to blow him up.[[/note]]

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An important part of this trope is that, in almost all cases, the good guys will ''only'' ever use small arms fire instead of escalating. Rockets, tanks, air support, artillery -- all the things the military is known for -- are rarely involved, even if the monster is gigantic. Not only are they more expensive for the producers to incorporate in to the film/show, in most cases, they might actually work, thereby stealing the thunder of the heroes of the story.[[note]]Actually averted in the TropeNamer episode of ''Series/DoctorWho'' when after the Dæmon animated gargoyle shrugs off massed rifle fire and disintegrates a soldier, they use a bazooka to blow him up.[[/note]]
10th Nov '17 11:15:42 AM Exxolon
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An important part of this trope is that, in almost all cases, the good guys will ''only'' ever use small arms fire instead of escalating. Rockets, tanks, air support, artillery -- all the things the military is known for -- are rarely involved, even if the monster is gigantic. Not only are they more expensive for the producers to incorporate in to the film/show, in most cases, they might actually work, thereby stealing the thunder of the heroes of the story.

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An important part of this trope is that, in almost all cases, the good guys will ''only'' ever use small arms fire instead of escalating. Rockets, tanks, air support, artillery -- all the things the military is known for -- are rarely involved, even if the monster is gigantic. Not only are they more expensive for the producers to incorporate in to the film/show, in most cases, they might actually work, thereby stealing the thunder of the heroes of the story.
story.[[note]]Actually averted in the TropeNamer episode of ''Series/DoctorWho'' when after the Dæmon shrugs off massed rifle fire and disintegrates a soldier, they use a bazooka to blow him up.[[/note]]
28th Oct '17 8:08:06 PM ProfessorDetective
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* Played with, intentionally or not, in TabletopGames/{{Pathfinder}}. The firearms in the book ''Ultimate Combat'' target touch AC, and many iconic monsters, including dragons and giants, have ''awful'' touch AC. In other words, guns are extremely effective (or at least extremely ''accurate'') against them where swords, axes, hammers and bows may not be. On the other hand, the guns (old school black powder and flint) are expensive, don't do that much damage, and can blow your hand off if you're unlucky, so there's always that. Even so, for a well trained Gunslinger (lvl 7 or higher) Five Rounds Rapid becomes the tactic of choice against the big, lumbering foes who tend to shrug off more 'conventional' weapons.

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* Played with, intentionally or not, in TabletopGames/{{Pathfinder}}.''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}''. The firearms in the book ''Ultimate Combat'' target touch AC, and many iconic monsters, including dragons and giants, have ''awful'' touch AC. In other words, guns are extremely effective (or at least extremely ''accurate'') against them where swords, axes, hammers and bows may not be. On the other hand, the guns (old school black powder and flint) are expensive, don't do that much damage, and can blow your hand off if you're unlucky, so there's always that. Even so, for a well trained Gunslinger (lvl 7 or higher) Five Rounds Rapid becomes the tactic of choice against the big, lumbering foes who tend to shrug off more 'conventional' weapons.
28th Oct '17 7:51:04 PM ProfessorDetective
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* An available character option on Cubicle Seven's ''Series/DoctorWho'' RPG has this name (appropiately enough it's within its UNIT sourcebook), which allows the character to skip the standard order of the game's initiative (people who talk always go first, people who fight always go ''very'' last), allowing for a very literal use of TalkToTheFist.

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* An available character option on Cubicle Seven's ''Series/DoctorWho'' RPG has this name (appropiately (appropriately enough it's within its UNIT sourcebook), which allows the character to skip the standard order of the game's initiative (people who talk always go first, people who fight always go ''very'' last), allowing for a very literal use of TalkToTheFist.



* Played with, intentionally or not, in Pathfinder. The firearms in the book ''Ultimate Combat'' target touch AC, and many iconic monsters, including dragons and giants, have ''awful'' touch AC. In other words, guns are extremely effective (or at least extremely ''accurate'') against them where swords, axes, hammers and bows may not be. On the other hand, the guns (old school black powder and flint) are expensive, don't do that much damage, and can blow your hand off if you're unlucky, so there's always that. Even so, for a well trained Gunslinger (lvl 7 or higher) Five Rounds Rapid becomes the tactic of choice against the big, lumbering foes who tend to shrug off more 'conventional' weapons.

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* Played with, intentionally or not, in Pathfinder.TabletopGames/{{Pathfinder}}. The firearms in the book ''Ultimate Combat'' target touch AC, and many iconic monsters, including dragons and giants, have ''awful'' touch AC. In other words, guns are extremely effective (or at least extremely ''accurate'') against them where swords, axes, hammers and bows may not be. On the other hand, the guns (old school black powder and flint) are expensive, don't do that much damage, and can blow your hand off if you're unlucky, so there's always that. Even so, for a well trained Gunslinger (lvl 7 or higher) Five Rounds Rapid becomes the tactic of choice against the big, lumbering foes who tend to shrug off more 'conventional' weapons.
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