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23rd Apr '17 9:40:41 AM nombretomado
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* This tends to be the Enforcers' solution to whatever the problem is in ''SwatKats''.

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* This tends to be the Enforcers' solution to whatever the problem is in ''SwatKats''.''WesternAnimation/SwatKats''.
2nd Apr '17 10:48:45 AM nombretomado
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** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures novel ''No Future'', in which the villain (who is ''not'' ImmuneToBullets) is standing next to PaulMcCartney. The Brigadier promptly orders "Chap with 'Music/{{Wings}}', five rounds rapid!".

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** [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures novel ''No Future'', in which the villain (who is ''not'' ImmuneToBullets) is standing next to PaulMcCartney.Music/PaulMcCartney. The Brigadier promptly orders "Chap with 'Music/{{Wings}}', five rounds rapid!".
22nd Mar '17 7:13:28 PM AthenaBlue
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*** He even lampshades his own trope, ''naming another trope'' in the process: ''"You know just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune to bullets."''

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*** He even lampshades his own trope, ''naming another trope'' in the process: ''"You know just once I'd like to meet an alien menace that wasn't immune {{immune to bullets.bullets}}."''
22nd Mar '17 7:11:37 PM AthenaBlue
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-->-- ''Series/DoctorWho'', "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E5TheDaemons The Daemons]]"

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-->-- ''Series/DoctorWho'', "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E5TheDaemons The Daemons]]"
[[Recap/DoctorWhoS8E5TheDaemons "The Dæmons"]]



* Parodied in ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' with a supposedly invulnerable demon, who with his final words reminds Buffy that he can not be killed by any weapon forged by man. But that was [[TechnologyMarchesOn a thousand years ago]] and a [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill rocket launcher does the job perfectly fine]].[[note]]Technically it just blew him into smithereens and he would be able to reform if someone collected the pieces again, but who's counting?[[/note]]
** Similarly in the Season 3 finale, they take out the recently powered up BigBad by packing the school library with ANFO.



** A particularly hilarious example was in the second Ice Warriors serial, ''The Seeds of Death''. Despite being set centuries into Earth's future, apparently the only gun used by security forces are turn of the 20th century broomhandle Mauser pistols. Sure, the Ice Warriors are ImmuneToBullets, but that's not even ''trying''. In the last episode, one character does suggest arming the guards with flamethrowers instead, but (presumably for reasons of budget) the Doctor saves the day before this happens.

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** A particularly hilarious example was in the second Ice Warriors serial, ''The [[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E5TheSeedsOfDeath "The Seeds of Death''.Death"]]. Despite being set centuries into Earth's future, apparently the only gun used by security forces are turn of the 20th century broomhandle Mauser pistols. Sure, the Ice Warriors are ImmuneToBullets, but that's not even ''trying''. In the last episode, one character does suggest arming the guards with flamethrowers instead, but (presumably for reasons of budget) the Doctor saves the day before this happens.



** Notably, in the new series episode "Doomsday", British military forces ''are'' seen to deploy a rocket launcher against attacking Cybermen after small arms fail.
** UNIT actually destroy several Cybermen with bazookas and grenades in their first encounter with them back in "The Invasion". ("Attack of the Cybermen" went one better by having a Cyberman killed by repeated shots from a ''handgun''.) Another massive subversion is the Zygons, who appear to have no immunity to bullets whatsoever and are killed or injured every time they get shot.
** The Brigadier calls for tank support in ''Robot'', but the titular menace disintegrates the first tank before it can get into firing position.
*** Brigadier later tried shooting it with the Robot's disintegrater, but the energy used enabled it to grow into a giant instead. At least the Brigadier is man enough to admit he made a mistake to the Doctor.

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** Notably, in the new series New Series episode "Doomsday", [[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E13Doomsday "Doomsday"]], British military forces ''are'' seen to deploy a rocket launcher against attacking Cybermen after small arms fail.
** UNIT actually destroy destroys several Cybermen with bazookas and grenades in their first encounter with them back in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E3THeInvasion "The Invasion". ("Attack Invasion"]]. ([[Recap/DoctorWhoS22E1AttackOfTheCybermen "Attack of the Cybermen" Cybermen"]] went one better by having a Cyberman killed by repeated shots from a ''handgun''.) Another massive subversion is the Zygons, who appear to have no immunity to bullets whatsoever and are killed or injured every time they get shot.
** The Brigadier calls for tank support in ''Robot'', [[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E1Robot "Robot"]], but the titular menace disintegrates the first tank before it can get into firing position.
*** The Brigadier later tried shooting it with the Robot's disintegrater, but the energy used enabled it to grow into a giant instead. At least the Brigadier is man enough to admit he made a mistake to the Doctor.



*** This line is also used in an anime episode based on Doctor Who.
** Double subverted in the Ninth Doctor's final story "The Parting of the Ways", where Captain Jack Harkness gives a group of volunteers under his command "bastic" bullets he is convinced will "blow a Dalek wide open". However, he fails to take into account the Daleks' new bullet-dissipating forcefields, which render the rounds useless. Bitterly lampshaded when a minor character despairingly declares "They're not working!" moments before she gets Exterminated.
** Played straight in the Tenth Doctor episode "The Poison Sky", where the Doctor's frantic pleas to UNIT to listen to him when he says no matter how many troops are deployed, guns will not work against Sontarans (due to their sonic waves that cause copper to expand, jamming traditional bullets in their chambers) fall upon deaf ears and the Doctor and UNIT command wind up being forced to listen to their troops being slaughtered over the comm system. The Doctor is [[RageBreakingPoint less than impressed.]]
*** Later subverted when UNIT switches out guns for ones that won't be effected by the sonic waves, which allows UNIT to slaughter them.
** In what may be a television first, a foe of the Tenth Doctor's attempts to lift off from London without enough power to activate her energy shield defenses--and is taken out by a single round from a British Army tank! Even TV series set in World War II (''Combat'' and ''Rat Patrol'', for example) traditionally avoid spending money on tanks.

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*** This line is also used in an anime episode based on Doctor Who.
** Double subverted in the Ninth Doctor's final story [[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E13ThePartingOfTheWays "The Parting of the Ways", Ways"]], where Captain Jack Harkness gives a group of volunteers under his command "bastic" bullets he is convinced will "blow a Dalek wide open". However, he fails to take into account the Daleks' new bullet-dissipating forcefields, which render the rounds useless. Bitterly lampshaded when a minor character despairingly declares "They're not working!" moments before she gets Exterminated.
** Played straight in the Tenth Doctor episode [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E5ThePoisonSky "The Poison Sky", Sky"]], where the Doctor's frantic pleas to UNIT to listen to him when he says no matter how many troops are deployed, guns will not work against Sontarans (due to their sonic waves that cause copper to expand, jamming traditional bullets in their chambers) fall upon deaf ears and the Doctor and UNIT command wind up being forced to listen to their troops being slaughtered over the comm system. The Doctor is [[RageBreakingPoint less than impressed.]]
*** Later subverted when UNIT switches out guns bullets for ones that won't be effected by the sonic waves, which allows UNIT to slaughter them.
** In what may be a television first, in [[Recap/DoctorWho2006CSTheRunawayBride "The Runaway Bride"]] a foe of the Tenth Doctor's attempts to lift off from London without enough power to activate her energy shield defenses--and is taken out by a single round from a British Army tank! Even TV series set in World War II (''Combat'' and ''Rat Patrol'', for example) traditionally avoid spending money on tanks.



** And finally averted in the episode ''Battlefield'', where it is revealed UNIT has invested in specialized rounds for different alien threats, which work just fine. The new series adds 'rad-steel' rounds for counteracting [[AppliedPhlebotinum anti-bullet fields]]. It's probably a subversion in the sense that said bullets are only deployed after normal bullets fail. On top of that, guess who gets to put the fatal Five Rounds into the BigBad?.
*** Lampshaded in the Easter special "Planet Of The Dead", when Captain Magambo is heard to shout "I don't believe it! Guns that work!" as rocket launchers tear apart aliens.
** Brought back once again in ''The Zygon Inversion'', when [[spoiler:the Brigadier's daughter is asked how she got away from a Zygon attack.]]

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** And finally averted in the episode ''Battlefield'', [[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield "Battlefield"]], where it is revealed UNIT has invested in specialized rounds for different alien threats, which work just fine. The new series adds 'rad-steel' rounds for counteracting [[AppliedPhlebotinum anti-bullet fields]]. It's probably a subversion in the sense that said bullets are only deployed after normal bullets fail. On top of that, guess who gets to put the fatal Five Rounds into the BigBad?.
*** Lampshaded in the Easter special [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E15PlanetOfTheDead "Planet Of The Dead", Dead"]], when Captain Magambo is heard to shout "I don't believe it! Guns that work!" as rocket launchers tear apart aliens.
** Brought back once again in ''The [[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E8TheZygonInversion "The Zygon Inversion'', Inversion"]], when [[spoiler:the Brigadier's daughter is asked how she got away from a Zygon attack.]]attack, and namedrops the trope.]]
* In the ''Series/{{Lost}}'' episode "The Shape of Things to Come," at least one of the ex-military mercenaries fires at the monster, which is composed of thick black smoke. Naturally, it doesn't do much except get the guy killed.
* In ''Series/PowerRangersTimeForce'', a for-hire defense force called the Silver Guardians often arrives before the Rangers do. Invariably, they are able to dispense with some of the MechaMooks but the MonsterOfTheWeek and/or TheDragon (whichever is present) are [[ImmuneToBullets another story entirely]] and the Guardians are having the daylights bashed out them by the time the Rangers arrive. And they return again the next week with the same weapons and tactics, [[GenreBlindness still not having learned their lesson]].
** Let's not forget that, like much {{Sentai}}, {{Shonen}}, and MonsterOfTheWeek stuff, ALL ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' shows focus on the rangers going through their own private counterpart to the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil. See that monster? Think you can actually just defeat it with a punch? Why not just whip out the combined 'Zord and stomp it into jelly to start with? Because then the show would be over before the first commercial break. A HandWave in the first episode of the first Power Rangers series mentions that they're not supposed to fight unless provoked, and not to escalate a confrontation unless absolutely necessary. To be fair, the Power Rangers aren't really a military force in the strictest sense.
*** There's a logic to this. First of all, think about the scale of the Rangers' mecha. How long do you think the people of Random City A would put up with the Rangers if they called out a skyscraper-crushing giant robot to step on a human-sized monster like a grape? Secondly, if the villains saw that the Rangers were going to bust out the heavy artillery straight away, they'd feel compelled to escalate their own attacks...



* In ''Series/PowerRangersTimeForce'', a for-hire defense force called the Silver Guardians often arrives before the Rangers do. Invariably, they are able to dispense with some of the MechaMooks but the MonsterOfTheWeek and/or TheDragon (whichever is present) are [[ImmuneToBullets another story entirely]] and the Guardians are having the daylights bashed out them by the time the Rangers arrive. And they return again the next week with the same weapons and tactics, [[GenreBlindness still not having learned their lesson]].
** Let's not forget that, like much {{Sentai}}, {{Shonen}}, and MonsterOfTheWeek stuff, ALL ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' shows focus on the rangers going through their own private counterpart to the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil. See that monster? Think you can actually just defeat it with a punch? Why not just whip out the combined 'Zord and stomp it into jelly to start with? Because then the show would be over before the first commercial break. A HandWave in the first episode of the first Power Rangers series mentions that they're not supposed to fight unless provoked, and not to escalate a confrontation unless absolutely necessary. To be fair, the Power Rangers aren't really a military force in the strictest sense.
*** There's a logic to this. First of all, think about the scale of the Rangers' mecha. How long do you think the people of Random City A would put up with the Rangers if they called out a skyscraper-crushing giant robot to step on a human-sized monster like a grape? Secondly, if the villains saw that the Rangers were going to bust out the heavy artillery straight away, they'd feel compelled to escalate their own attacks...
* In the ''Series/{{Lost}}'' episode "The Shape of Things to Come," at least one of the ex-military mercenaries fires at the monster, which is composed of thick black smoke. Naturally, it doesn't do much except get the guy killed.
* Parodied in ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' with a supposedly invulnerable demon, who with his final words reminds Buffy that he can not be killed by any weapon forged by man. But that was [[TechnologyMarchesOn a thousand years ago]] and a [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill rocket launcher does the job perfectly fine]].[[note]]Technically it just blew him into smithereens and he would be able to reform if someone collected the pieces again, but who's counting?[[/note]]
** Similarly in the Season 3 finale, they take out the recently powered up BigBad by packing the school library with ANFO.
18th Feb '17 4:31:41 AM Arivne
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*** In the series, by the last handful of angels they've gotten so strong even the Eva tactics and weapons no longer work. Instead they usually require a miraculous last minute unexpected save, usually Eva 01's berseker mode. The final two (not counting the actual last one, who wasn't really fought) were too much for even that, needing Nerv's strongest one shot weapon, which really was needed for other things wasted on the former, and an Eva selfdestructing, for the latter.

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*** In the series, by the last handful of angels they've gotten so strong even the Eva tactics and weapons no longer work. Instead they usually require a miraculous last minute unexpected save, usually Eva 01's berseker berserker mode. The final two (not counting the actual last one, who wasn't really fought) were too much for even that, needing Nerv's strongest one shot weapon, which really was needed for other things wasted on the former, and an Eva selfdestructing, self-destructing, for the latter.
4th Feb '17 7:50:42 AM icewater
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* In ''Film/ConquestOfThePlanetOfTheApes'', the humans continue using their police and security force armed with rifles and shotguns, bringing these out into the open to face to face with the apes regardless of how dire things get, never choosing to mow down the apes with automatic fire from a distance or pick them off with ranged, out of range of the apes' primarily stone age tactics mixed with untrained use of captured small-arms.

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* In ''Film/ConquestOfThePlanetOfTheApes'', the humans continue using their police and security force armed with rifles and shotguns, bringing these out into the open to face to face with the apes regardless of how dire things get, never choosing to mow down the apes with automatic fire from a distance or pick them off with ranged, from out of range of the apes' attacks, which involved primarily stone age tactics mixed with untrained use of captured small-arms.
28th Nov '16 3:05:01 PM DimensionalShambler
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* In MassEffect3, it's no surprise defeat is certain when all the races of the galaxy seemingly rely on small squads of infantry with small arms fire to fight against the skyscraper-sized Reapers. Flashbacks even show the Protheans doing the same thing. The heaviest ordinance we see are some APCs and light choppers.
19th Nov '16 12:19:57 PM Hadjorim
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* In MassEffect3, it's no surprise defeat is certain when all the races of the galaxy seemingly rely on small squads of infantry with small arms fire to fight against the skyscraper-sized Reapers. Flashbacks even show the Protheans doing the same thing. The heaviest ordinance we see are some APCs and light choppers.
19th Nov '16 11:55:27 AM Hadjorim
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An important part of this trope is that, in almost all cases, the good guys will only ever use small arms fire instead of escalating. Rockets, tanks, air support, artillery -- all the things the military is known for -- are hardly ever involved (unless the monster is a {{Kaiju}}, {{Robeast}}, or similarly [[GiantEqualsInvincible gigantic]]). Not only are they more expensive for the producers to incorporate in to the film/show, in most cases, they might actually work, thereby stealing the thunder of the heroes of the story.

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An important part of this trope is that, in almost all cases, the good guys will only ''only'' ever use small arms fire instead of escalating. Rockets, tanks, air support, artillery -- all the things the military is known for -- are hardly ever involved (unless rarely involved, even if the monster is a {{Kaiju}}, {{Robeast}}, or similarly [[GiantEqualsInvincible gigantic]]).gigantic. Not only are they more expensive for the producers to incorporate in to the film/show, in most cases, they might actually work, thereby stealing the thunder of the heroes of the story.
18th Oct '16 8:20:53 PM Zaptech
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* ''Film/IndependenceDay'' follows this trope on a larger scale when the human resistance limits itself to air-to-air missiles when firing on the miles-wide alien mothership. The one time they scale up to a nuke, one main character goes on a raging bender sure that using nukes will destroy the world (as opposed to the xenocidal aliens...), and the president gives up after one attempt, when for all they know the shields only barely held and the aliens breathed a sigh of relief at no further attempts.

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* ''Film/IndependenceDay'' follows this trope on a larger scale when the human resistance limits itself to air-to-air missiles when firing on the miles-wide alien mothership. The one time they scale up to a nuke, one main character goes on a raging bender sure that using nukes will destroy the world (as opposed to nuke has no visible effect on the xenocidal aliens...), aliens, and the president gives up after one attempt, when for all they know call off the shields only barely held and the aliens breathed a sigh of relief at no further attempts.attack.
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