Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Main / FightingIrish

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


-->'''[[KentBrockmanNews Kent Brockman]]:''' Drunkenness, fighting, destruction of property: are these really the qualities we associate with the Irish?

to:

-->'''[[KentBrockmanNews --->'''[[KentBrockmanNews Kent Brockman]]:''' Drunkenness, fighting, destruction of property: are these really the qualities we associate with the Irish?



-->'''Principal Skinner:''' Yes, Seamus, 90 minutes of watching a man drink in a bathtub. Well, I think we should try the Springfield Speaker's Bureau. [''leans out window''] Seamus, uh, we won't need you to speak anymore.
-->'''Seamus:''' What?! [''looks at Willie''] Oh, this is your doing, Willie. I'll turn your groin to pudding!
-->'''Willie:''' Oh, you speak like a poet, but you punch like one, too!
-->[''Seamus and Willie start fighting'']
** In the episode, [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS7E18TheDayTheViolenceDied The Day The Violence Died]], Bart and Milhouse watch an old ''Itchy and Scratchy'' cartoon from UsefulNotes/TheSilentAgeOfAnimation, titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElLxayE_Zfs "Manhattan Madness."]] The cartoon features a segment in which "Itchy runs afoul of an Irishman." Despite the narration and Milhouse's reaction, the Irishman is a subversion, greeting Itchy with a friendly handshake and not even putting up any kind of fight when [[AxCrazy Itchy]] starts maiming him, not that this stops [[TheSociopath Itchy]] from killing the Irishman anyway.
--> '''Milhouse:''' Look out, Itchy. He's Irish!

to:

-->'''Principal --->'''Principal Skinner:''' Yes, Seamus, 90 minutes of watching a man drink in a bathtub. Well, I think we should try the Springfield Speaker's Bureau. [''leans out window''] Seamus, uh, we won't need you to speak anymore.
-->'''Seamus:'''
anymore.\\
'''Seamus:'''
What?! [''looks at Willie''] Oh, this is your doing, Willie. I'll turn your groin to pudding!
-->'''Willie:'''
pudding!\\
'''Willie:'''
Oh, you speak like a poet, but you punch like one, too!
-->[''Seamus
too!\\
[''Seamus
and Willie start fighting'']
** In the episode, episode [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS7E18TheDayTheViolenceDied The "The Day The Violence Died]], Died"]], Bart and Milhouse watch an old ''Itchy and Scratchy'' cartoon from UsefulNotes/TheSilentAgeOfAnimation, titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElLxayE_Zfs "Manhattan Madness."]] The cartoon features a segment in which "Itchy runs afoul of an Irishman." Despite the narration and Milhouse's reaction, the Irishman is a subversion, greeting Itchy with a friendly handshake and not even putting up any kind of fight when [[AxCrazy Itchy]] starts maiming him, not that this stops [[TheSociopath Itchy]] from killing the Irishman anyway.
--> ---> '''Milhouse:''' Look out, Itchy. He's Irish!



** Drunken violence is portrayed as a standard evening's entertainment when Peter travels to Ireland to find his real father.

to:

** Drunken violence is portrayed as a standard evening's evening entertainment when Peter travels to Ireland to find his real father.father. One of the first sights that greets Peter and Brian when they arrive in the village is the [=McMurphy=] brothers, who've "been circling that same spot for 50 years, just daring each other to throw the first punch" (this was cut from the broadcast version).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Film/Bandolero1968:'' Robbie O'Hare (the only one of Dee's men besides Mace himself to be portrayed with any sympathy) has a thick Irish brogue and doesn't shy away from combat.

to:

* ''Film/Bandolero1968:'' Robbie O'Hare (the only one of Dee's men besides Mace Dee himself to be portrayed with any sympathy) has a thick Irish brogue and doesn't shy away from combat.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Film/Bandolero1968:'' Robbie O'Hare (the only one of Mace's men besides Mace himself to be portrayed with any sympathy) has a thick Irish brogue and doesn't shy away from combat.

to:

* ''Film/Bandolero1968:'' Robbie O'Hare (the only one of Mace's Dee's men besides Mace himself to be portrayed with any sympathy) has a thick Irish brogue and doesn't shy away from combat.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''Film/Bandolero1968:'' Robbie O'Hare (the only one of Mace's men besides Mace himself to be portrayed with any sympathy) has a thick Irish brogue and doesn't shy away from combat.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Mosty overlaps with FieryRedhead, since Irish people are known to have red hair. A more violent, criminal version of this stereotype is TheIrishMob. Can also overlap with HollywoodNewEngland and {{Southies}} since many people from Massachusetts, especially UsefulNotes/{{Boston}}, are of Irish descent and carry the Fighting Irish stereotype.

to:

Mosty overlaps with FieryRedhead, since Irish people are known to have red hair. A more violent, criminal version of this stereotype is TheIrishMob. Can also overlap with HollywoodNewEngland and {{Southies}} since many people from Massachusetts, especially UsefulNotes/{{Boston}}, are of Irish descent and carry the Fighting Irish stereotype.
descent.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Mosty overlaps with FieryRedhead, since Irish people are known to have red hair.

to:

Mosty overlaps with FieryRedhead, since Irish people are known to have red hair.
hair. A more violent, criminal version of this stereotype is TheIrishMob. Can also overlap with HollywoodNewEngland and {{Southies}} since many people from Massachusetts, especially UsefulNotes/{{Boston}}, are of Irish descent and carry the Fighting Irish stereotype.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foggy_Dew_(Irish_ballad) "The Foggy Dew"]] is an old Irish ballad chronicling and celebrating the Easter Rising of 1916, and actively encouraging soldiers to fight for the cause of Ireland rather than that of Great Britian, during UsefulNotes/WorldWarI.
--> ''And back through the glen, I rode again''\\
''And my heart with grief was sore.''\\
''For I parted then, with valiant men,''\\
''Whom I will never see no more.''\\
''But to and fro in my dreams I go,''\\
''And I'll kneel and pray for you,''\\
''For slavery fled, o glorious dead''\\
''When you fell in the Foggy Dew.''\\
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''Series/TheLastKingdom'' gives us a 9th-century example: Finan, Lord Uhtred's Irish right hand, is a good-spirited (and [[RealMenLoveJesus deeply Catholic]]) BloodKnight who, in his own words, "loves a fight as much as the next idiot."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''Series/Daredevil2015'':
**Matt Murdock is Irish-American, and fights violent crime in Hell's Kitchen.
**Foggy Nelson is established in season 3 to be Irish-American as well, and is capable of throwing down when he has to, like using a baseball bat to beat up a few thugs threatening Karen, or trying to punch Dex when he shows up at the ''Bulletin'' to kill Jasper Evans.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*In “A Couple of Blaggards”, the brothers McCourt claim that no real Irish wake is complete without a brawl, even citing one where the distraught widow cried “They didn’t love him, nobody fought!”

Added: 238

Changed: 96

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


This may very slowly be becoming a DiscreditedTrope; while in the nineteenth century Irish soldiers did indeed make up a disproportionate number of soldiers in the [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire British]] and [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar American]] armies (and are still allowed to join the British Army) times have moved on even if the stereotype hasn't. [[RealityIsUnrealistic Ironically]], Ireland is one of very few countries to become independent in the 20th century to have ''never'' been in an international war. During UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo it remained neutral and turned down a 1949 offer to join UsefulNotes/{{NATO}}. In fact, the Irish military has a good reputation as peacekeepers.[[note]]It isn't lost in places like Africa that the Irish are one of the European countries that never went out creating colonial empires, and were, in fact, colonial subjects themselves until, like many African nations, they won independence from somebody else's Empire. This gives Irish soldiers trust and respect as part of any U.N. peacekeeping forces and helps explain why Irish troops are sought after for U.N. purposes. [[/note]] The island also has a low rate of violent crime by international standards; nevertheless, do BewareTheNiceOnes.

to:

This may very slowly be becoming a DiscreditedTrope; while in the eighteenth century both the French and Spanish armies fielded expatriate "Irish Brigades," and nineteenth century Irish soldiers did indeed make up a disproportionate number of soldiers in the [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire British]] and [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar American]] armies (and are still allowed to join the British Army) times have moved on even if the stereotype hasn't. [[RealityIsUnrealistic Ironically]], Ireland is one of very few countries to become independent in the 20th century to have ''never'' been in an international war. During UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo it remained neutral and turned down a 1949 offer to join UsefulNotes/{{NATO}}. In fact, the Irish military has a good reputation as peacekeepers.[[note]]It isn't lost in places like Africa that the Irish are one of the European countries that never went out creating colonial empires, and were, in fact, colonial subjects themselves until, like many African nations, they won independence from somebody else's Empire. This gives Irish soldiers trust and respect as part of any U.N. peacekeeping forces and helps explain why Irish troops are sought after for U.N. purposes. [[/note]] The island also has a low rate of violent crime by international standards; nevertheless, do BewareTheNiceOnes.



* The title character of ''Kim'', real name: Kimball [=O'Hara=], is the son of a soldier in a fictional Irish regiment, the Mavericks. They also appear in the novel and appear to have a reputation in tune with this trope, although it really only comes to the for in one brief scene.

to:

* The title character of ''Kim'', real name: Kimball [=O'Hara=], is the son of a soldier in a fictional Irish regiment, the Mavericks. They also appear in the novel and appear to have a reputation in tune with this trope, although it really only comes to the for fore in one brief scene.


Added DiffLines:

* Literature/GauntsGhosts are an Imperial Guard regiment from Warhammer40000 with a background theme of the Irish Wild Geese [[Scotireland mixed with]] the '45 - their planet is destroyed/taken by the enemy, and all they have left is war.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* The main villain of ''Film/AFieldInEngland'' is an Irish alchemist who uses physical violence to get a group of deserters from the English Civil War to do what he tells them.
--> '''Friend:''' It's no surprise to me that the devil's an Irishman, though I thought he might be taller.

Added: 92

Changed: 313

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Steve Rogers, better known as ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, was born to poor Irish immigrants.



* Steve Rogers, better known as ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, was born to poor Irish immigrants.

to:

* Steve Rogers, better known as ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, In ''ComicBook/OnceAndFuture'', Bridgette moved from Ireland to Britain when she was born 15 and slayed vampires across the country until she ran out of vampires. Once Duncan gets into the family business, he soon finds that he has a knack for it even though he doesn't ''want'' to poor Irish immigrants.have a knack for it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ''Series/{{Angel}}'': Before he became a vampire, Angel was Liam, a hedonistic Irish man with a love women, alcohol and fighting. He caught Darla's eye when he fought off several men while drunk during a bar brawl.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

Mosty overlaps with FieryRedhead, since Irish people are known to have red hair.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


This may very slowly be becoming a DiscreditedTrope; while in the nineteenth century Irish soldiers did indeed make up a disproportionate number of soldiers in the [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire British]] and [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar American]] armies (and are still allowed to join the British Army) times have moved on even if the stereotype hasn't. [[RealityIsUnrealistic Ironically]], Ireland is one of very few countries to become independent in the 20th century to have ''never'' been in an international war. During UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo it remained neutral and turned down a 1949 offer to join UsefulNotes/{{NATO}}. In fact, the Irish military has a good reputation as peacekeepers.[[note]]It isn't lost in places like Africa that the Irish are one of the European countries that never went out creating colonial empires, and were, in fact, colonial subjects themselves until, like many African nations, they won independence from somebody else's Empire. This gives Irish soldiers trust and respect as part of any U.N. peacekeeping forces and helps explain why Irish troops are sought after for U.N. purposes. [[/note]] The island also has a low rate of violent crime by international standards.

to:

This may very slowly be becoming a DiscreditedTrope; while in the nineteenth century Irish soldiers did indeed make up a disproportionate number of soldiers in the [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire British]] and [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar American]] armies (and are still allowed to join the British Army) times have moved on even if the stereotype hasn't. [[RealityIsUnrealistic Ironically]], Ireland is one of very few countries to become independent in the 20th century to have ''never'' been in an international war. During UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo it remained neutral and turned down a 1949 offer to join UsefulNotes/{{NATO}}. In fact, the Irish military has a good reputation as peacekeepers.[[note]]It isn't lost in places like Africa that the Irish are one of the European countries that never went out creating colonial empires, and were, in fact, colonial subjects themselves until, like many African nations, they won independence from somebody else's Empire. This gives Irish soldiers trust and respect as part of any U.N. peacekeeping forces and helps explain why Irish troops are sought after for U.N. purposes. [[/note]] The island also has a low rate of violent crime by international standards.
standards; nevertheless, do BewareTheNiceOnes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


This can be [[Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible played many ways]]. A good-natured BoisterousBruiser who favors his fists is typical of many recent examples; boxing has a long history in Ireland and among Irish-Americans, and in recent years, Irish boxers have had success at the UsefulNotes/OlympicGames. Negative portrayals are more common the farther back you go. More thuggish examples will often carry a [[CarryABigStick shillelagh]], a traditional knobby cudgel that has become a symbol of Irish culture as well as its violence. Even darker examples might be remorseless {{Blood Knight}}s, tyrannical bullies, or terrorist psychopaths. If a Fighting Irishman is or was in the [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles Irish Republican Army]] expect him to have at least a bit of the MadBomber [[IrishExplosivesExpert thrown in]].

to:

This can be [[Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible played many ways]]. A good-natured BoisterousBruiser who favors his fists is typical of many recent examples; boxing has a long history in Ireland and among Irish-Americans, and in recent years, Irish boxers have had success at the UsefulNotes/OlympicGames. Negative portrayals are more common the farther back you go. There are also pirates which include Anne Bonny and Grace O'Malley. More thuggish examples will often carry a [[CarryABigStick shillelagh]], a traditional knobby cudgel that has become a symbol of Irish culture as well as its violence. Even darker examples might be remorseless {{Blood Knight}}s, tyrannical bullies, or terrorist psychopaths. If a Fighting Irishman is or was in the [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles Irish Republican Army]] expect him to have at least a bit of the MadBomber [[IrishExplosivesExpert thrown in]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Chief O'Brien from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' may be a nice guy, but he's also a war hero with a bit of a temper and he's not afraid to throw a punch to protect his friends. He and [[HeterosexualLifePartners his BFF Julian Bashir]] also enjoy holosuite programs of historical battles like the Alamo and the Battle of Britain.

to:

* Chief O'Brien from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' may be a nice guy, NiceGuy, but he's also a war hero with a bit of a temper and he's not afraid to throw a punch to protect his friends. He and [[HeterosexualLifePartners his BFF Julian Bashir]] also enjoy holosuite programs of historical battles like the Alamo and the Battle of Britain.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* Chief O'Brien from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' may be a nice guy, but he's also a war hero with a bit of a temper and he's not afraid to throw a punch to protect his friends. He and [[HeterosexualLifePartners his BFF Julian Bashir]] also enjoy holosuite programs of historical battles like the Alamo and the Battle of Britain.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* A downplayed example in ''Film/{{Sherlock Holmes}}'': The music playing during Sherlock's boxing match is a traditional Irish song performed by Irish folk band ''Music/{{The Dubliners}}''.

to:

* A downplayed example in ''Film/{{Sherlock Holmes}}'': ''Film/SherlockHolmes2009'': The music playing during Sherlock's boxing match is a traditional Irish song performed by Irish folk band ''Music/{{The Dubliners}}''.Music/TheDubliners.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' has made it into something of a RunningGag that Celtic Servants (''especially'' those from the Ulster Cycle) are insatiable {{Blood Knight}}s with a flippant attitude towards violence and death (up to and including their own), that [[OrangeAndBlueMorality no one else can quite seem to get their heads around]]. After encountering Cu Chulainn's teacher, Scathach, the protagonist goes as far as to declare that Celts are crazy by default.

to:

** ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' has made it into something of a RunningGag that Celtic Servants (''especially'' those from the Ulster Cycle) are insatiable {{Blood Knight}}s with a flippant attitude towards violence and death (up to and including their own), that [[OrangeAndBlueMorality [[BlueAndOrangeMorality no one else can quite seem to get their heads around]]. After encountering Cu Chulainn's teacher, Scathach, the protagonist goes as far as to declare that Celts are crazy by default.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
"X-century" is hyphenated only when being used as a compound word adjective, not when it's a noun.


This may very slowly be becoming a DiscreditedTrope; while in the 19th-century Irish soldiers did indeed make up a disproportionate number of soldiers in the [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire British]] and [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar American]] armies (and are still allowed to join the British Army) times have moved on even if the stereotype hasn't. [[RealityIsUnrealistic Ironically]], Ireland is one of very few countries to become independent in the 20th century to have ''never'' been in an international war. During UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo it remained neutral and turned down a 1949 offer to join UsefulNotes/{{NATO}}. In fact, the Irish military has a good reputation as peacekeepers.[[note]]It isn't lost in places like Africa that the Irish are one of the European countries that never went out creating colonial empires, and were, in fact, colonial subjects themselves until, like many African nations, they won independence from somebody else's Empire. This gives Irish soldiers trust and respect as part of any U.N. peacekeeping forces and helps explain why Irish troops are sought after for U.N. purposes. [[/note]] The island also has a low rate of violent crime by international standards.

to:

This may very slowly be becoming a DiscreditedTrope; while in the 19th-century nineteenth century Irish soldiers did indeed make up a disproportionate number of soldiers in the [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire British]] and [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar American]] armies (and are still allowed to join the British Army) times have moved on even if the stereotype hasn't. [[RealityIsUnrealistic Ironically]], Ireland is one of very few countries to become independent in the 20th century to have ''never'' been in an international war. During UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo it remained neutral and turned down a 1949 offer to join UsefulNotes/{{NATO}}. In fact, the Irish military has a good reputation as peacekeepers.[[note]]It isn't lost in places like Africa that the Irish are one of the European countries that never went out creating colonial empires, and were, in fact, colonial subjects themselves until, like many African nations, they won independence from somebody else's Empire. This gives Irish soldiers trust and respect as part of any U.N. peacekeeping forces and helps explain why Irish troops are sought after for U.N. purposes. [[/note]] The island also has a low rate of violent crime by international standards.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


This may very slowly be becoming a DiscreditedTrope; while in the 19th century Irish soldiers did indeed make up a disproportionate number of soldiers in the [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire British]] and [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar American]] armies (and are still allowed to join the British Army) times have moved on even if the stereotype hasn't. [[RealityIsUnrealistic Ironically]], Ireland is one of very few countries to become independent in the 20th century to have ''never'' been in an international war. During UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo it remained neutral and turned down a 1949 offer to join UsefulNotes/{{NATO}}. In fact, the Irish military has a good reputation as peacekeepers.[[note]]It isn't lost in places like Africa that the Irish are one of the European countries that never went out creating colonial empires, and were, in fact, colonial subjects themselves until, like many African nations, they won independence from somebody else's Empire. This gives Irish soldiers trust and respect as part of any U.N. peacekeeping forces and helps explain why Irish troops are sought after for U.N. purposes. [[/note]] The island also has a low rate of violent crime by international standards.

to:

This may very slowly be becoming a DiscreditedTrope; while in the 19th century 19th-century Irish soldiers did indeed make up a disproportionate number of soldiers in the [[UsefulNotes/TheBritishEmpire British]] and [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar American]] armies (and are still allowed to join the British Army) times have moved on even if the stereotype hasn't. [[RealityIsUnrealistic Ironically]], Ireland is one of very few countries to become independent in the 20th century to have ''never'' been in an international war. During UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo it remained neutral and turned down a 1949 offer to join UsefulNotes/{{NATO}}. In fact, the Irish military has a good reputation as peacekeepers.[[note]]It isn't lost in places like Africa that the Irish are one of the European countries that never went out creating colonial empires, and were, in fact, colonial subjects themselves until, like many African nations, they won independence from somebody else's Empire. This gives Irish soldiers trust and respect as part of any U.N. peacekeeping forces and helps explain why Irish troops are sought after for U.N. purposes. [[/note]] The island also has a low rate of violent crime by international standards.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None





-->--''Tim Finnegan's Wake'', traditional Irish ballad

to:

-->--''Tim -->-- ''Tim Finnegan's Wake'', traditional Irish ballad
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Caleb "The Deathslinger" Quinn was an Old West BountyHunter born to Irish immigrants who had a HairTriggerTemper. Now he is a bloodthristy SerialKiller who collects "bounties" for a GodOfEvil.

to:

* Caleb "The Deathslinger" Quinn from ''VideoGame/DeadByDaylight'' was an Old West BountyHunter born to Irish immigrants who had a HairTriggerTemper. Now he is a bloodthristy SerialKiller who collects "bounties" for a GodOfEvil.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* Caleb "The Deathslinger" Quinn was an Old West BountyHunter born to Irish immigrants who had a HairTriggerTemper. Now he is a bloodthristy SerialKiller who collects "bounties" for a GodOfEvil.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

[[folder:Theatre]]
* In ''Theatre/TheMatchmaker'', the widow Mrs. Molloy claims that one of the things she misses about her late husband was the blazing rows they used to have, which never failed to brighten her spirits when she was feeling down.
[[/folder]]

Added: 580

Changed: 9

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Irish-American director John Ford loved this trope, usually playing it in the lovable BoisterousBruiser variation and frequently involving alcohol.

to:

* Irish-American director John Ford Creator/JohnFord loved this trope, usually playing it in the lovable BoisterousBruiser variation and frequently involving alcohol.


Added DiffLines:

** In ''Film/YoungCassidy'' (one of Ford's last films, finished by Jack Cardiff after Ford left the production due to illness), a riot breaks out at a performance of Sean O'Casey (aka "Jack Cassidy") play ''Theatre/ThePloughAndTheStars''. Cassidy waits in the lobby while inside the theater people are ProducePelting his cast. He is met in the lobby by two drunk Irishmen who come in from the street specifically looking for a fight. When he accuses them of "creating a disturbance", one of them grins and says "Maybe just addin' to it." Cassidy then punches both of them out.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


This can be [[Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible played many ways]]. A good-natured BoisterousBruiser who favors his fists is typical of many recent examples; boxing has a long history in Ireland and among Irish-Americans, and in recent years, Irish boxers have had success at the UsefulNotes/OlympicGames. Negative portrayals are more common the farther back you go. More thuggish examples will often carry a [[CarryABigStick shillelagh]], a traditional knobby cudgel that has become a symbol of Irish culture as well as its violence. Even darker examples might be remorseless {{Blood Knight}}s, tyrannical bullies, or terrorist psychopaths. If a Fighting Irishman is or was in the [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles Irish Republican Army]] expect him to have at least a bit of the MadBomber thrown in.

to:

This can be [[Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible played many ways]]. A good-natured BoisterousBruiser who favors his fists is typical of many recent examples; boxing has a long history in Ireland and among Irish-Americans, and in recent years, Irish boxers have had success at the UsefulNotes/OlympicGames. Negative portrayals are more common the farther back you go. More thuggish examples will often carry a [[CarryABigStick shillelagh]], a traditional knobby cudgel that has become a symbol of Irish culture as well as its violence. Even darker examples might be remorseless {{Blood Knight}}s, tyrannical bullies, or terrorist psychopaths. If a Fighting Irishman is or was in the [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles Irish Republican Army]] expect him to have at least a bit of the MadBomber [[IrishExplosivesExpert thrown in.
in]].

Changed: 668

Removed: 610

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


This can be [[Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible played many ways]]. A good-natured BoisterousBruiser who favors his fists is typical of many recent examples; boxing has a long history in Ireland and among Irish-Americans, and in recent years, Irish boxers have had success at the UsefulNotes/OlympicGames.. Negative portrayals are more common the farther back you go. More thuggish examples will often carry a [[CarryABigStick shillelagh]], a traditional knobby cudgel that has become a symbol of Irish culture as well as its violence. Even darker examples might be remorseless {{Blood Knight}}s, tyrannical bullies, or terrorist psychopaths. If a Fighting Irishman is or was in the [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles Irish Republican Army]] expect him to have at least a bit of the MadBomber thrown in.

to:

This can be [[Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible played many ways]]. A good-natured BoisterousBruiser who favors his fists is typical of many recent examples; boxing has a long history in Ireland and among Irish-Americans, and in recent years, Irish boxers have had success at the UsefulNotes/OlympicGames..UsefulNotes/OlympicGames. Negative portrayals are more common the farther back you go. More thuggish examples will often carry a [[CarryABigStick shillelagh]], a traditional knobby cudgel that has become a symbol of Irish culture as well as its violence. Even darker examples might be remorseless {{Blood Knight}}s, tyrannical bullies, or terrorist psychopaths. If a Fighting Irishman is or was in the [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles Irish Republican Army]] expect him to have at least a bit of the MadBomber thrown in.



[[folder: Trope Namer ]]

to:

[[folder: Trope Namer ]]
[[folder:Trope Namer]]






[[folder: Comics ]]

to:

[[folder: Comics ]][[folder:Comics]]



[[folder: Fan Works]]

to:

[[folder: Fan [[folder:Fan Works]]



[[folder: Film ]]

to:

[[folder: Film ]][[folder:Film]]



* ''Film/FarAndAway'': Lower-class Irish are shown to be rowdy, with a love of wrestling and fighting. The local Irish-American boss is introduced bare-knuckle boxing for fun, and Joseph Donnelly, the male lead, is a young, hot-headed Irish immigrant who brawls his brothers and ends up fighting for money. This is all contrasted with the upperclass Irish, who behave like typical European gentry.

to:

* ''Film/FarAndAway'': Lower-class Irish are shown to be rowdy, with a love of wrestling and fighting. The local Irish-American boss is introduced bare-knuckle boxing for fun, and Joseph Donnelly, the male lead, is a young, hot-headed Irish immigrant who brawls his brothers and ends up fighting for money. This is all contrasted with the upperclass upper-class Irish, who behave like typical European gentry.



[[folder: Literature ]]

to:

[[folder: Literature ]][[folder:Literature]]



* ''Literature/TheRavenCycle'''s Ronan Lynch, as well as his older brother Declan and father Niall Lynch, all have rough, combative streaks, raised to love sad ballads and bare knuckle fighting. At one point, Ronan observe that the only person who could beat up a Lynch brother is another Lynch brother.
* In Creator/MichaelFlynn's ''Literature/TheJanuaryDancer'', a planet that modeled itself after Oireland has this in the package.

to:

* ''Literature/TheRavenCycle'''s Ronan Lynch, as well as his older brother Declan and father Niall Lynch, all have rough, combative streaks, raised to love sad ballads and bare knuckle bare-knuckle fighting. At one point, Ronan observe observes that the only person who could beat up a Lynch brother is another Lynch brother.
* In Creator/MichaelFlynn's ''Literature/TheJanuaryDancer'', a planet that modeled itself after Oireland {{Oireland}} has this in the package.



[[folder: Live Action TV ]]

to:

[[folder: Live Action TV ]][[folder:Live-Action TV]]



* In ''Series/ThirtyRock'', Jack Donaghy ends up in a fist fight with members of his dysfunctional family in the appropriately titled episode "The Fighting Irish".

to:

* In ''Series/ThirtyRock'', Jack Donaghy ends up in a fist fight fistfight with members of his dysfunctional family in the appropriately titled episode "The Fighting Irish".



* In Paul Haggis's critically acclaimed and violent ''Series/EZStreets'', all of the prinicpal characters are Irish-American.

to:

* In Paul Haggis's critically acclaimed and violent ''Series/EZStreets'', all of the prinicpal principal characters are Irish-American.



[[folder: Music ]]

to:

[[folder: Music ]][[folder:Music]]



[[folder: Professional Wrestling ]]

to:

[[folder: Professional Wrestling ]][[folder:Professional Wrestling]]



** "The Celtic Warrior" Wrestling/{{Sheamus}} represented the more villainous side, as he is willing to inflict serious injuries through underhanded means. After his HeelFaceTurn he's stopped using sneaky tactics and trying to cause permanent injuries, but he can still project serious menace when he wants.

to:

** "The Celtic Warrior" Wrestling/{{Sheamus}} represented the more villainous side, as he is willing to inflict serious injuries through underhanded means. After his HeelFaceTurn HeelFaceTurn, he's stopped using sneaky tactics and trying to cause permanent injuries, but he can still project serious menace when he wants.



* Irish Whip Wrestling, [[SarcasmMode surprisingly]], boasts an alumni that includes more than a few proud fighting men, and women, and maybe a bear. Though it also boasted its fair share of [[EvilForeigner fighting anti Irish.]]

to:

* Irish Whip Wrestling, [[SarcasmMode surprisingly]], boasts an alumni that includes include more than a few proud fighting men, and women, and maybe a bear. Though it also boasted its fair share of [[EvilForeigner fighting anti Irish.anti-Irish.]]



[[folder: Standup Comedy ]]

to:

[[folder: Standup Comedy ]][[folder:Standup Comedy]]



* Creator/DenisLeary once jokingly wrote a newspaper column about how his Irish friends and relatives intended to celebrate St. Patrick's Day: by getting drunk and beating the shit out of each other. The Irish Anti-Defamation League issued a press release threatening a lawsuit for perpatuating the stereotype, but nothing more ever came of it. The reason why, according to Leary, was "They realized that all I would have to do is call NBC and request footage from '''any''' St. Patrick's Day parade since the invention of the television camera, and there would be scores of my Irish brethren, drunkenly beating the shit out of each other."

to:

* Creator/DenisLeary once jokingly wrote a newspaper column about how his Irish friends and relatives intended to celebrate St. Patrick's Day: by getting drunk and beating the shit out of each other. The Irish Anti-Defamation League issued a press release threatening a lawsuit for perpatuating perpetuating the stereotype, but nothing more ever came of it. The reason why, according to Leary, was "They realized that all I would have to do is call NBC and request footage from '''any''' St. Patrick's Day parade since the invention of the television camera, and there would be scores of my Irish brethren, drunkenly beating the shit out of each other."



[[folder: Tabletop Games ]]

to:

[[folder: Tabletop Games ]][[folder:Tabletop Games]]



[[folder: Video Games ]]

to:

[[folder: Video Games ]][[folder:Video Games]]



* In ''VideoGame/TheSaboteur'', hot-headed and hot-tempered Sean Devlin (complete with hilarious Oireland accent) becomes a member of the resistance in Nazi-occupied France and solves all his problems with violence.

to:

* In ''VideoGame/TheSaboteur'', hot-headed and hot-tempered Sean Devlin (complete with hilarious Oireland {{Oireland}} accent) becomes a member of the resistance in Nazi-occupied France and solves all his problems with violence.



[[folder: Visual Novels]]

to:

[[folder: Visual [[folder:Visual Novels]]



[[folder: Webcomics ]]

* Roark "Rocky" Rickaby and his cousin Calvin "Freckles" [=McMurray=] from the webcomic ''[[Webcomic/{{Lackadaisy}} Lackadaisy]]'' both show shades of this. Ethnically, they are at the very least Irish-American, with Rocky possessing a slight brogue that is mostly seen when making use of various Irish idioms and phrases in his speech. In terms of fighting spirit, Rocky is never one to turn down a challenge and is a bit...[[PyroManiac fond]] of using fire at times while Freckles is more reserved and polite....[[TheBerserker at least]] [[AxCrazy until]] [[BewareTheNiceOnes you hand him]] [[GunNut a gun.]]

to:

[[folder: Webcomics ]]

[[folder:Webcomics]]
* Roark "Rocky" Rickaby and his cousin Calvin "Freckles" [=McMurray=] from the webcomic ''[[Webcomic/{{Lackadaisy}} Lackadaisy]]'' both show shades of this. Ethnically, they are at the very least Irish-American, with Rocky possessing a slight brogue that is mostly seen when making use of various Irish idioms and phrases in his speech. In terms of fighting spirit, Rocky is never one to turn down a challenge and is a bit...[[PyroManiac fond]] of using fire at times while Freckles is more reserved and polite....polite...[[TheBerserker at least]] [[AxCrazy until]] [[BewareTheNiceOnes you hand him]] [[GunNut a gun.]]
]]



[[folder: Web Original ]]

to:

[[folder: Web Original ]]
[[folder:Web Original]]






[[folder: Western Animation ]]

to:

[[folder: Western Animation ]]
[[folder:Western Animation]]



** Another St. Patrick's Day episode, "Homer vs. The Eighteenth Amendment" where Bart inadvertantly touches off a riot:

to:

** Another St. Patrick's Day episode, "Homer vs. The Eighteenth Amendment" where Bart inadvertantly inadvertently touches off a riot:



** In the episode, [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS7E18TheDayTheViolenceDied The Day The Violence Died]], Bart and Milhouse watch an old ''Itchy and Scratchy'' cartoon from UsefulNotes/TheSilentAgeOfAnimation, titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElLxayE_Zfs "Manhattan Madness."]] The cartoon features a segment in which "Itchy runs afoul of an Irishman." Despite the narration and Milhouse's reaction, the Irishman is a subversion, greeting Itchy with a friendly handshake and not even putting up any kind of fight when [[AxCrazy Itchy]] starts maiming him, not that this stops [[TheSociopath Itchy]] from killing the irishman anyway.

to:

** In the episode, [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS7E18TheDayTheViolenceDied The Day The Violence Died]], Bart and Milhouse watch an old ''Itchy and Scratchy'' cartoon from UsefulNotes/TheSilentAgeOfAnimation, titled [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElLxayE_Zfs "Manhattan Madness."]] The cartoon features a segment in which "Itchy runs afoul of an Irishman." Despite the narration and Milhouse's reaction, the Irishman is a subversion, greeting Itchy with a friendly handshake and not even putting up any kind of fight when [[AxCrazy Itchy]] starts maiming him, not that this stops [[TheSociopath Itchy]] from killing the irishman Irishman anyway.





Added DiffLines:

Top