History Main / FascistButInefficient

16th Aug '17 11:14:01 AM Jhonny
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** {{Justified}} since [[spoiler:the Lord Ruler's only two real concerns were hoarding [[FantasyMetals atium]] for the purpose of weakening [[GreaterScopeVillain Ruin]], and preventing total human extinction long enough for him to AscendToAHigherPlaneOFExistence and fix everything he messed up the last time. Beyond that, he really didn't care what happened unless somebody either broke into his palace or called him out personallu]].

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** {{Justified}} since [[spoiler:the Lord Ruler's only two real concerns were hoarding [[FantasyMetals atium]] for the purpose of weakening [[GreaterScopeVillain Ruin]], and preventing total human extinction long enough for him to AscendToAHigherPlaneOFExistence and fix everything he messed up the last time. Beyond that, he really didn't care what happened unless somebody either broke into his palace or called him out personallu]].personally]].
16th Aug '17 6:18:06 AM RobTan
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** {{Justified}} since [[spoiler:the Lord Ruler's only two real concerns were hoarding [[FantasyMetals atium]] for the purpose of weakening [[GreaterScopeVillain Ruin]], and preventing total human extinction for ten thousand years so he could AscendToAHigherPlaneOFExistence and fix everything he messed up the last time]].

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** {{Justified}} since [[spoiler:the Lord Ruler's only two real concerns were hoarding [[FantasyMetals atium]] for the purpose of weakening [[GreaterScopeVillain Ruin]], and preventing total human extinction long enough for ten thousand years so he could him to AscendToAHigherPlaneOFExistence and fix everything he messed up the last time]].time. Beyond that, he really didn't care what happened unless somebody either broke into his palace or called him out personallu]].
15th Aug '17 9:29:40 AM RobTan
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** {{Justified}} since [[spoiler:the Lord Ruler's only two real concerns were hoarding [[FantasyMetals atium]] for the purpose of weakening [[GreaterScopeVillain Ruin]], and preventing total human extinction for ten thousand years so he could AscendToAHigherPlaneOFExistence and fix everything he messed up the last time]].
24th Jul '17 1:31:50 PM kome360
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* ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'': In this alternate timeline, Nazis discover a cache of LostTechnology, reverse-engineer what they can, and use it to take over the world. What follows is a deconstruction of the Fascist Singularity: the technology is so advanced that any attempt to apply it for non-military use is shot down because pacifist renovations don't hold up well against a robot army led by an ambitious rival or a paranoid superior. The overall strength of the Nazis is unparalleled but they're constantly backstabbing and infighting offscreen, or otherwise being boggled down by incompetent or apathetic leaders to do anything but strengthen their military assets. End result? The Nazis are using 23rd-century offensive, defensive, and enslavement technology in 1960, but the common people are stuck with 19'''50's''' tech, forced to bear the machinations of the genocidal Nazis without any technological advances or social relief, and are collectively VERY pissed off.
16th Jul '17 9:19:54 AM nombretomado
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* The WW2 novels by Creator/SvenHassel have the supposedly efficient war machine and civil administration of the Nazis actually be corrupt and massively wasteful of resources and human lives. Wholly TruthInTelevision.

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* The WW2 [=WW2=] novels by Creator/SvenHassel have the supposedly efficient war machine and civil administration of the Nazis actually be corrupt and massively wasteful of resources and human lives. Wholly TruthInTelevision.
1st Jul '17 9:17:29 AM nombretomado
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Compare DystopiaIsHard. Contrast RepressiveButEfficient. See TheOtherWiki for RealLife examples.

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Compare DystopiaIsHard. Contrast RepressiveButEfficient. See TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki for RealLife examples.
25th Jun '17 3:41:28 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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ThoseWackyNazis. Sure, they might be brutal and genocidal, but at least they can [[NoDelaysForTheWicked make trains run on time]] and all that good stuff... only, the actual Nazis couldn't even do that. With military resources spread across four completely separate services that had to be actively bullied by Hitler into cooperating ([[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Heer, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, SS]])[[note]]Indeed, Hitler once joked that he had an [[UsefulNotes/ImperialGermany Imperial Army]], Nazi Air Force, and [[DirtyCommies Socialist Navy]][[/note]], four economic institutions which competed for limited resources[[note]] Walther Funk's Ministry of Economics, Luftwaffe-head Herman Goering's Four-Year Plan Organisation, Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) General Georg Thomas' War Economy Office, and Fritz Todt's Ministry of Weapons and Munitions [[/note]], two General Headquarters [[note]] Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH) - 'Ostfront'/USSR. Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) - 'Westfront'/everything else including all rail-supply/logistics ''even in the areas controlled by the OKH'' [[/note]], two intelligence services (Abwehr, Gestapo) that never shared information and occasionally offed each other's agents, two civil services and two courts (one regular/normal, one political), and ''five'' atomic bomb programs that shared no information or resources with each other [[note]] Most, if not all, of this compartmentalization was due to Hitler's personal intervention, as he feared too much power being concentrated in any organization that wasn't run directly by him. [[/note]]. UsefulNotes/NaziGermany was actually one of the most inefficient states in history - and that's not even accounting for the gross corruption. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK419Nlp8eU&t=1s Hitler himself made quite a few amateur mistakes]], creating a two-front war, never listening to his generals, never allowing a retreat, and invading Russia during winter with an army unprepared for cold weather. In RealLife, the only thing efficient about dictatorships is their total control of the media, which they use to portray themselves as being extremely efficient (and benevolent) despite their crippling factional in-fighting and endemic corruption.

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ThoseWackyNazis. Sure, they might be brutal and genocidal, but at least they can [[NoDelaysForTheWicked make trains run on time]] and all that good stuff... only, the actual Nazis couldn't even do that. With military resources spread across four completely separate services that had to be actively bullied by Hitler into cooperating ([[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Heer, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, SS]])[[note]]Indeed, Hitler once joked that he had an [[UsefulNotes/ImperialGermany Imperial Army]], Nazi Air Force, and [[DirtyCommies Socialist Navy]][[/note]], four economic institutions which competed for limited resources[[note]] Walther Funk's Ministry of Economics, Luftwaffe-head Herman Goering's Four-Year Plan Organisation, Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) General Georg Thomas' War Economy Office, and Fritz Todt's Ministry of Weapons and Munitions [[/note]], two General Headquarters [[note]] Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH) - 'Ostfront'/USSR. Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) - 'Westfront'/everything else including all rail-supply/logistics ''even in the areas controlled by the OKH'' [[/note]], two intelligence services (Abwehr, Gestapo) that never shared information and occasionally offed each other's agents, two civil services and two courts (one regular/normal, one political), and ''five'' atomic bomb programs that shared no information or resources with each other [[note]] Most, if not all, of this compartmentalization was due to Hitler's personal intervention, as he feared too much power being concentrated in any organization that wasn't run directly by him. [[/note]]. UsefulNotes/NaziGermany was actually one of the most inefficient states in history - -- and that's not even accounting for the gross corruption. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK419Nlp8eU&t=1s Hitler himself made quite a few amateur mistakes]], creating a two-front war, never listening to his generals, never allowing a retreat, and invading Russia during winter with an army unprepared for cold weather. In RealLife, the only thing efficient about dictatorships is their total control of the media, which they use to portray themselves as being extremely efficient (and benevolent) despite their crippling factional in-fighting and endemic corruption.
23rd May '17 2:25:01 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': House Bolton. While Roose Bolton is more intelligent than most of them, their reliance on pure brutality to take the North is beginning to backfire. For instance, due to their tendency to have very sociopathic soldiers they have very little support among commoners and their high value hostages tend to lose value after being tortured by their men. Combatants who have become aware of their reputation are now also reluctant to surrender to them, making their wars more difficult than they need to be. Indeed, this forces Roose to enter into a risky alliance with Littlefinger and engage Ramsay to Sansa, a known fugitive persecuted by his Lannister patrons, to get whatever little legitimacy as he can claim.
14th May '17 9:30:11 AM nombretomado
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* ''Franchise/StarCraft'':

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* ''Franchise/StarCraft'':''VideoGame/StarCraft'':
1st May '17 6:25:05 AM LadyJaneGrey
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ThoseWackyNazis. Sure, they might be brutal and genocidal, but at least they can [[NoDelaysForTheWicked make trains run on time]] and all that good stuff... only, the actual Nazis couldn't even do that. With military resources spread across four completely separate services that had to be actively bullied by Hitler into cooperating ([[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Heer, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, SS]])[[note]]Indeed, Hitler once joked that he had an [[UsefulNotes/ImperialGermany Imperial Army]], Nazi Air Force, and [[DirtyCommies Socialist Navy]][[/note]], four economic institutions which competed for limited resources[[note]] Walther Funk's Ministry of Economics, Luftwaffe-head Herman Goering's Four-Year Plan Organisation, Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) General Georg Thomas' War Economy Office, and Fritz Todt's Ministry of Weapons and Munitions [[/note]], two General Headquarters [[note]] Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH) - 'Ostfront'/USSR. Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) - 'Westfront'/everything else including all rail-supply/logistics ''even in the areas controlled by the OKH'' [[/note]], two intelligence services (Abwehr, Gestapo) that never shared information and occasionally offed each other's agents, two civil services and two courts (one regular/normal, one political), and ''five'' atomic bomb programs that shared no information or resources with each other [[note]] Most, if not all, of this compartmentalization was due to Hitler's personal intervention, as he feared too much power being concentrated in any organization that wasn't run directly by him. [[/note]]. UsefulNotes/NaziGermany was actually one of the most inefficient states in history - and that's not even accounting for the gross corruption. In RealLife, the only thing efficient about dictatorships is their total control of the media, which they use to portray themselves as being extremely efficient (and benevolent) despite their crippling factional in-fighting and endemic corruption.

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ThoseWackyNazis. Sure, they might be brutal and genocidal, but at least they can [[NoDelaysForTheWicked make trains run on time]] and all that good stuff... only, the actual Nazis couldn't even do that. With military resources spread across four completely separate services that had to be actively bullied by Hitler into cooperating ([[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Heer, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, SS]])[[note]]Indeed, Hitler once joked that he had an [[UsefulNotes/ImperialGermany Imperial Army]], Nazi Air Force, and [[DirtyCommies Socialist Navy]][[/note]], four economic institutions which competed for limited resources[[note]] Walther Funk's Ministry of Economics, Luftwaffe-head Herman Goering's Four-Year Plan Organisation, Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) General Georg Thomas' War Economy Office, and Fritz Todt's Ministry of Weapons and Munitions [[/note]], two General Headquarters [[note]] Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH) - 'Ostfront'/USSR. Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) - 'Westfront'/everything else including all rail-supply/logistics ''even in the areas controlled by the OKH'' [[/note]], two intelligence services (Abwehr, Gestapo) that never shared information and occasionally offed each other's agents, two civil services and two courts (one regular/normal, one political), and ''five'' atomic bomb programs that shared no information or resources with each other [[note]] Most, if not all, of this compartmentalization was due to Hitler's personal intervention, as he feared too much power being concentrated in any organization that wasn't run directly by him. [[/note]]. UsefulNotes/NaziGermany was actually one of the most inefficient states in history - and that's not even accounting for the gross corruption. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK419Nlp8eU&t=1s Hitler himself made quite a few amateur mistakes]], creating a two-front war, never listening to his generals, never allowing a retreat, and invading Russia during winter with an army unprepared for cold weather. In RealLife, the only thing efficient about dictatorships is their total control of the media, which they use to portray themselves as being extremely efficient (and benevolent) despite their crippling factional in-fighting and endemic corruption.
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