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23rd May '17 2:25:01 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': House Bolton. While Roose Bolton is more intelligent than most of them, their reliance on pure brutality to take the North is beginning to backfire. For instance, due to their tendency to have very sociopathic soldiers they have very little support among commoners and their high value hostages tend to lose value after being tortured by their men. Combatants who have become aware of their reputation are now also reluctant to surrender to them, making their wars more difficult than they need to be. Indeed, this forces Roose to enter into a risky alliance with Littlefinger and engage Ramsay to Sansa, a known fugitive persecuted by his Lannister patrons, to get whatever little legitimacy as he can claim.
14th May '17 9:30:11 AM nombretomado
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1st May '17 6:25:05 AM LadyJaneGrey
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ThoseWackyNazis. Sure, they might be brutal and genocidal, but at least they can [[NoDelaysForTheWicked make trains run on time]] and all that good stuff... only, the actual Nazis couldn't even do that. With military resources spread across four completely separate services that had to be actively bullied by Hitler into cooperating ([[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Heer, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, SS]])[[note]]Indeed, Hitler once joked that he had an [[UsefulNotes/ImperialGermany Imperial Army]], Nazi Air Force, and [[DirtyCommies Socialist Navy]][[/note]], four economic institutions which competed for limited resources[[note]] Walther Funk's Ministry of Economics, Luftwaffe-head Herman Goering's Four-Year Plan Organisation, Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) General Georg Thomas' War Economy Office, and Fritz Todt's Ministry of Weapons and Munitions [[/note]], two General Headquarters [[note]] Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH) - 'Ostfront'/USSR. Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) - 'Westfront'/everything else including all rail-supply/logistics ''even in the areas controlled by the OKH'' [[/note]], two intelligence services (Abwehr, Gestapo) that never shared information and occasionally offed each other's agents, two civil services and two courts (one regular/normal, one political), and ''five'' atomic bomb programs that shared no information or resources with each other [[note]] Most, if not all, of this compartmentalization was due to Hitler's personal intervention, as he feared too much power being concentrated in any organization that wasn't run directly by him. [[/note]]. UsefulNotes/NaziGermany was actually one of the most inefficient states in history - and that's not even accounting for the gross corruption. In RealLife, the only thing efficient about dictatorships is their total control of the media, which they use to portray themselves as being extremely efficient (and benevolent) despite their crippling factional in-fighting and endemic corruption.

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ThoseWackyNazis. Sure, they might be brutal and genocidal, but at least they can [[NoDelaysForTheWicked make trains run on time]] and all that good stuff... only, the actual Nazis couldn't even do that. With military resources spread across four completely separate services that had to be actively bullied by Hitler into cooperating ([[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Heer, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, SS]])[[note]]Indeed, Hitler once joked that he had an [[UsefulNotes/ImperialGermany Imperial Army]], Nazi Air Force, and [[DirtyCommies Socialist Navy]][[/note]], four economic institutions which competed for limited resources[[note]] Walther Funk's Ministry of Economics, Luftwaffe-head Herman Goering's Four-Year Plan Organisation, Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) General Georg Thomas' War Economy Office, and Fritz Todt's Ministry of Weapons and Munitions [[/note]], two General Headquarters [[note]] Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH) - 'Ostfront'/USSR. Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) - 'Westfront'/everything else including all rail-supply/logistics ''even in the areas controlled by the OKH'' [[/note]], two intelligence services (Abwehr, Gestapo) that never shared information and occasionally offed each other's agents, two civil services and two courts (one regular/normal, one political), and ''five'' atomic bomb programs that shared no information or resources with each other [[note]] Most, if not all, of this compartmentalization was due to Hitler's personal intervention, as he feared too much power being concentrated in any organization that wasn't run directly by him. [[/note]]. UsefulNotes/NaziGermany was actually one of the most inefficient states in history - and that's not even accounting for the gross corruption. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK419Nlp8eU&t=1s Hitler himself made quite a few amateur mistakes]], creating a two-front war, never listening to his generals, never allowing a retreat, and invading Russia during winter with an army unprepared for cold weather. In RealLife, the only thing efficient about dictatorships is their total control of the media, which they use to portray themselves as being extremely efficient (and benevolent) despite their crippling factional in-fighting and endemic corruption.
27th Apr '17 10:51:33 AM Morgenthaler
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ThoseWackyNazis. Sure, they might be brutal and genocidal, but at least they can [[NoDelaysForTheWicked make trains run on time]] and all that good stuff... only, the actual Nazis couldn't even do that. With military resources spread across four completely separate services that had to be actively bullied by Hitler into cooperating ([[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Heer, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, SS]])[[note]]Indeed, Hitler once joked that he had an [[UsefulNotes/ImperialGermany Imperial Army]], Nazi Air Force, and [[DirtyCommies Socialist Navy]][[/note]], four economic institutions which competed for limited resources[[note]] Walther Funk's Ministry of Economics, Luftwaffe-head Herman Goering's Four-Year Plan Organisation, Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) General Georg Thomas' War Economy Office, and Fritz Todt's Ministry of Weapons and Munitions [[/note]], two General Headquarters [[note]] Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH) - 'Ostfront'/USSR. Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) - 'Westfront'/everything else including all rail-supply/logistics ''even in the areas controlled by the OKH'' [[/note]], two intelligence services (Abwehr, Gestapo) that never shared information and occasionally offed each other's agents, two civil services and two courts (one regular/normal, one political), and ''five'' atomic bomb programs that shared no information or resources with each other [[note]] Most, if not all, of this compartmentalization was due to Hitler's personal intervention, as he feared too much power being concentrated in any organization that wasn't run directly by him. [[/note]]. Nazi Germany was actually one of the most inefficient states in history - and that's not even accounting for the gross corruption. In Real Life, the only thing efficient about dictatorships is their total control of the media, which they use to portray themselves as being extremely efficient (and benevolent) despite their crippling factional in-fighting and endemic corruption.

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ThoseWackyNazis. Sure, they might be brutal and genocidal, but at least they can [[NoDelaysForTheWicked make trains run on time]] and all that good stuff... only, the actual Nazis couldn't even do that. With military resources spread across four completely separate services that had to be actively bullied by Hitler into cooperating ([[UsefulNotes/NazisWithGnarlyWeapons Heer, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe, SS]])[[note]]Indeed, Hitler once joked that he had an [[UsefulNotes/ImperialGermany Imperial Army]], Nazi Air Force, and [[DirtyCommies Socialist Navy]][[/note]], four economic institutions which competed for limited resources[[note]] Walther Funk's Ministry of Economics, Luftwaffe-head Herman Goering's Four-Year Plan Organisation, Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) General Georg Thomas' War Economy Office, and Fritz Todt's Ministry of Weapons and Munitions [[/note]], two General Headquarters [[note]] Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH) - 'Ostfront'/USSR. Oberkommando der Wehrmacht (OKW) - 'Westfront'/everything else including all rail-supply/logistics ''even in the areas controlled by the OKH'' [[/note]], two intelligence services (Abwehr, Gestapo) that never shared information and occasionally offed each other's agents, two civil services and two courts (one regular/normal, one political), and ''five'' atomic bomb programs that shared no information or resources with each other [[note]] Most, if not all, of this compartmentalization was due to Hitler's personal intervention, as he feared too much power being concentrated in any organization that wasn't run directly by him. [[/note]]. Nazi Germany UsefulNotes/NaziGermany was actually one of the most inefficient states in history - and that's not even accounting for the gross corruption. In Real Life, RealLife, the only thing efficient about dictatorships is their total control of the media, which they use to portray themselves as being extremely efficient (and benevolent) despite their crippling factional in-fighting and endemic corruption.
3rd Apr '17 2:40:53 PM WiseMan23753
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* The World of Mana in ''Anime/CrossAnge'' may be home of the most excessively fascist and evil society known to man. However, they're equally as incompetent and idiotic. Their methods of execution are more of tormenting the oppressed Norma than efficiently killing them. The leadership waste time bickering over one another rather than getting things done themselves, and anything that ''does'' get done is through the help of the BigBad. And the lack of war resulted in generations of complacency and once a war comes into their society, they have no means of fighting back.
30th Mar '17 8:37:35 AM IdumeanPatriot
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* Zig-zagged in ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' by the Republic of Azania, a LadyLand inhabiting a CrapsackWorld that has gone fascist due to its fear[[note]]Exaggerated but, as it turns out, far from wholly unreasonable[[/note]] of its male-dominated neighbors. On the one hand, they are one of the setting's most scientifically and technologically advanced nations, with a working industrial economy in a largely post-apocalyptic future America, and able to equip their troops accordingly. On the other hand, their critical personnel shortage forces them to have badly trained pilots fly their advanced fighters, which significantly dents their theoretical advantage in the air--That is, largely the same problem as the Nazi ''Luftwaffe'' had in real life, though the parallel is almost certainly unintentional.
17th Mar '17 8:21:06 AM hullflyer
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* ''Disney/TheLionKing'' has Scar allude in his VillainSong to the tremendous injustice he suffered when Mufasa became king instead of him, and implies that he's been [[TheEvilPrince scheming to take the throne for years]]. Scar proves to be an expert [[TheChessmaster Chessmaster]] in murdering [[CainAndAbel Mufasa]] and manipulating Simba into running away, but when he finally obtains the power he craves he proves to be utterly incompetent at actually wielding it. [[FisherKing Under his leadership]], he indulges the hyenas' greed (forcing the prey to leave), his subjects starve, and the hyenas who form his power base are grumbling long before Simba ever comes back, admitting Scar's brother was better at ruling then him. For some reason he thinks the grumbling is because he hasn't secured the succession, rather than the fact that everyone's starving. [[spoiler:Finally his inefficiency and trying to blame the hyenas leads to them eating him.]]

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* ''Disney/TheLionKing'' has Scar allude in his VillainSong to the tremendous injustice he suffered when Mufasa became king instead of him, and implies that he's been [[TheEvilPrince scheming to take the throne for years]]. Scar proves to be an expert [[TheChessmaster Chessmaster]] in murdering [[CainAndAbel Mufasa]] and manipulating Simba into running away, but when he finally obtains the power he craves he proves to be utterly incompetent at actually wielding it. [[FisherKing Under his leadership]], he indulges the hyenas' greed (forcing the prey to leave), his subjects starve, and the hyenas who form his power base are grumbling long before Simba ever comes back, admitting Scar's brother was better at ruling then than him. For some reason he thinks the grumbling is because he hasn't secured the succession, rather than the fact that everyone's starving. [[spoiler:Finally his inefficiency and trying to blame the hyenas leads to them eating him.]]
12th Mar '17 3:00:53 AM kome360
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* ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' has the Skaven, a seemingly insignificant race of ChaoticEvil ratmen - insignificant only in their inability to cooperate when they're the most powerful and overwhelming force on the planet. The core of all Skaven is fear - they fear their enemies, they fear each other, they even worship their unloving and monstrous god by constantly fearing that he will materialize and start eating titanic handfuls of screaming rats because he was bored. Which he has done on occasion. As a result, their society is one unending Fascist state with every citizen enslaving at least one other Skaven and other Skaven enslaving them, all the way to the top, where the twelve big rats squabble and argue on a giant magnet about Skaven policies and how they can write the rules to serve their ends. Despite the sheer difference in both population and technology between the Skaven and every other race on the planet, Chaos included, the constant infighting, backstabbing, and enslaving means that the Skaven are incapable of dominating a single surface outpost without some (easily killed) chieftain rat to herd them like cattle, hence the reason why they are so obscure that the Empire has deemed them a heretical myth.
26th Feb '17 5:27:57 PM BaronPraxis
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** The main wizarding prison is located at [[TheAlcatraz Azkaban]], which is staffed by Dementors, evil creatures which suck the joy out of people. A place which by all accounts is AFateWorseThanDeath. There are apparently no other Wizarding prisons, so you get sent there [[AllCrimesAreEqual whether you were convicted of murder or insurance fraud.]] It doesn't seem to bother any of the authorities that such an extreme punishment is guaranteed to turn anyone sentenced there either insane or evil (usually both) within a few weeks, not to mention driving criminals to ''extreme'' methods to avoid imprisonment; knowing this was in store for them, no wizard would ever surrender to the authorities. Additionally, since Dementors are AlwaysChaoticEvil, Dumbledre repeatedly warns the Ministry of the folly of using them as wardens, as Voldemort could make them all defect without a second thought simply by providing them with more opportunities to fill their bellies - simultaneously adding a legion of dark creatures to his followers and effortlessly releasing all the Death Eaters imprisoned in Azkaban. All this would be bad enough if everyone sentenced to Azkaban was actually guilty, but... Well, see below.

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** The main wizarding prison is located at [[TheAlcatraz Azkaban]], which is staffed by Dementors, evil creatures which suck the joy out of people. A place which by all accounts is AFateWorseThanDeath. There are apparently no other Wizarding prisons, so you get sent there [[AllCrimesAreEqual whether you were convicted of murder or insurance fraud.]] It doesn't seem to bother any of the authorities that such an extreme punishment is guaranteed to turn anyone sentenced there either insane or evil (usually both) within a few weeks, not to mention driving criminals to ''extreme'' methods to avoid imprisonment; knowing this was in store for them, no wizard would ever surrender to the authorities. Additionally, since Dementors are AlwaysChaoticEvil, Dumbledre Dumbledore repeatedly warns the Ministry of the folly of using them as wardens, as Voldemort could make them all defect without a second thought simply by providing them with more opportunities to fill their bellies - simultaneously adding a legion of dark creatures to his followers and effortlessly releasing all the Death Eaters imprisoned in Azkaban. All this would be bad enough if everyone sentenced to Azkaban was actually guilty, but... Well, see below.



** Not to mention how hindered they are by their FantasticRacism against the muggles. The muggle and wizarding governments ''are'' apparently aware of each other, but only if you count the Minister for Magic occasionally popping into the Prime Minister's office without warning to give him vague updates on the magical world. One has to imagine that if they'd maybe ''asked'' muggles for some help, things like security cameras or guns would have given them a real leg up against the Death Eaters (though it's hard to say for sure, as technology tends to go haywire around magic or not work at all).

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** Not to mention how hindered they are by their FantasticRacism against the muggles. The muggle and wizarding governments ''are'' apparently aware of each other, but only if you count the Minister for Magic occasionally popping into the Prime Minister's office without warning to give him vague updates on the magical world. One has to imagine that if they'd maybe ''asked'' muggles for some help, things like security cameras or guns would have given them a real leg up against the Death Eaters (though it's hard to say for sure, as technology tends some technologies tend to go haywire around magic or not too much magic, assuming they work at all).
22nd Feb '17 4:12:15 AM MrThorfan64
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* When the capitol city of the planet Virmok is visited by the Third Doctor and Sara Kingdom in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9868669/27/Game-of-Doctors Game of Doctors Chapter 27]] most of the officials are shown as very incompetent and factional, scheming against each other. The guy in charge of the City's Security is suspicious of the Doctor and Sara, but lets them into a building of intelligence reports when they are recommended by a rival commander, in the hope that if they are spies his rival will get in trouble. The woman in charge of the Intelligence Building is implied to be having an affair with her deputy, her dim-witted [[KissingCousins second cousin]] and dislikes the only competent officer that appears in the story, partially due to being a FemaleMisogynist and due to [[FeudingFamilies an apparent family feud]].

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* When Oshehant, the capitol city of the planet Virmok Virmok, is visited by the Third Doctor and Sara Kingdom in [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9868669/27/Game-of-Doctors Game of Doctors Chapter 27]] most of the officials are shown as very incompetent and factional, scheming against each other. The guy in charge of the City's Security is suspicious of the Doctor and Sara, but lets them into a building of intelligence reports when they are recommended by a rival commander, in the hope that if they are spies his rival [[SkewedPriorities will get in trouble.trouble]]. The woman in charge of the Intelligence Building is implied to be having an affair with her deputy, her dim-witted [[KissingCousins second cousin]] and dislikes the only competent officer that appears in the story, partially due to being a FemaleMisogynist and due to [[FeudingFamilies an apparent family feud]].
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