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3rd May '18 1:11:28 AM LinTaylor
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* In ''Film/GalaxyQuest'', Tim Allen's character, the washed up star of a long-canceled Sci-Fi show, snaps at a fan at a convention for bugging him with technical questions about the show's fictional universe. This may be a ShoutOut to similar incidents that happened to cast members of the original ''Series/{{Star Trek|The Original Series}}'' series by similarly overzealous fans. And this happened after Tim Allen's character heard three people in the restroom talk about how ridiculous the show and its cast was.

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* In ''Film/GalaxyQuest'', Tim Allen's character, the washed up star of a long-canceled Sci-Fi show, snaps at a fan at a convention for bugging him with technical questions about the show's fictional universe. This may be a ShoutOut to similar incidents that happened to cast members of the original ''Series/{{Star Trek|The Original Series}}'' series by similarly overzealous fans. And this happened after Tim Allen's character heard three people in the restroom talk about how ridiculous the show and its cast was. Later on in the movie, Allen gets to speak to that fan again and apologizes for being so rude[[note]]He was upset because of a BathroomStallOfOverheardInsults incident and took it out on someone who didn't deserve it[[/note]]; likewise, the fan apologizes for being so pushy, and he goes on to help save the cast's lives.
29th Mar '18 11:38:57 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* This is what happened to several former members of Music/TheFaceless, most notably Alex Rudinger, Justin [=McKinney=], and Bryce Butler. All were longtime fans of the band who counted them as a major musical influence, but several years (or months, in Butler's case) of dealing with Michael Keene's drug issues and many issues as a human being that had little or nothing to do with drugs steadily wore out their patience and good will towards Keene, and Butler in particular openly stated that joining the Faceless was a childhood dream come true that quickly turned out to be a colossal mistake once he was actually in and got to witness the band's dysfunction firsthand.
21st Jan '18 4:56:13 PM LadyNorbert
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* In ''Manga/OtakuNoMusumeSan'' there is a scene where Kouta's {{Otaku}} fans rush onto his stand in the Comiket manga fair, but when they find out that he actually ''has a daughter'', many of them get disillusioned by the fact that Kouta is not ''so'' much nerdy as ''they'' are.

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* In ''Manga/OtakuNoMusumeSan'' there is a scene where Kouta's {{Otaku}} fans rush onto his stand in the Comiket manga fair, but when they find out that he actually ''has a daughter'', many of them get disillusioned by the fact that Kouta is not ''so'' much as nerdy as ''they'' are.



* Happened to ''an entire generation'' in the Marvel Universe. [[ComicBook/BuckyBarnes James "Bucky" Barnes]] was the first sidekick in the world, and served with ComicBook/CaptainAmerica. Naturally, every kid wanted to be Bucky. Then he died, and no one wanted to be Bucky. J. Jonah Jameson, of all people, was one of these fans. While Bucky is still held in high regard by pretty much everyone, his death pretty much disillusioned everyone in regards to teenage superheroes. Notably, teenage superheroes themselves still hold Bucky in incredibly high regard, and when the ComicBook/YoungAvengers met him, they saluted and told him it was an honour.
* In the ''LightNovel/DirtyPair'' mini series ''Fatal But Not Serious'', the Angels visit a planet where a bunch of their fans are holding a big convention. Several issues involving an evil clone, a mind altering bioweapon and the star going supernova later, and all the people who were gushing over the Angels in book one are frothing at the mouth and forming lynch mobs to try and kill them.

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* Happened to ''an entire generation'' in the Marvel Universe. [[ComicBook/BuckyBarnes James "Bucky" Barnes]] was the first sidekick in the world, and served with ComicBook/CaptainAmerica. Naturally, every kid wanted to be Bucky. Then he died, and no one wanted to be Bucky. J. Jonah Jameson, of all people, was one of these fans. While Bucky is still held in high regard by pretty much everyone, his death pretty much disillusioned everyone in regards to teenage superheroes. Notably, teenage superheroes themselves still hold Bucky in incredibly high regard, and when the ComicBook/YoungAvengers met meet him, they saluted salute and told tell him it was it's an honour.
* In the ''LightNovel/DirtyPair'' mini series ''Fatal But Not Serious'', the Angels visit a planet where a bunch of their fans are holding a big convention. Several issues involving an evil clone, a mind altering mind-altering bioweapon and the star going supernova later, and all the people who were gushing over the Angels in book one are frothing at the mouth and forming lynch mobs to try and kill them.



* In ''Film/TheFan'', Robert De Niro is an obsessive fan of Wesley Snipes' baseball star who goes berserk after hearing Snipes criticize his fandom.
* In ''Film/BigFan'', Paul Aufiero is obsessed with the New York Giants, especially star player Quantrell Bishop. He's 36, still lives with his mother, works in a parking lot, and watches home games in the parking lot of the stadium via a television hooked to his car battery. When he and a friend chance bump into Bishop at a strip joint, he decides to take the plunge and introduce himself to him. Things do not go as planned, a fight breaks out, leaving Paul with a black eye and a confused conscience as to how he should present himself as a court witness against his hero.

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* In ''Film/TheFan'', Robert De Niro Creator/RobertDeNiro is an obsessive fan of Wesley Snipes' a baseball star (Creator/WesleySnipes) who goes berserk after hearing Snipes criticize his fandom.
* In ''Film/BigFan'', Paul Aufiero is obsessed with the New York Giants, especially star player Quantrell Bishop. He's 36, still lives with his mother, works in a parking lot, and watches home games in the parking lot of the stadium via a television hooked to his car battery. When he and a friend by chance bump into Bishop at a strip joint, he decides to take the plunge and introduce himself to him. his idol. Things do not go as planned, planned and a fight breaks out, leaving Paul with a black eye and a confused conscience as to how he should present himself as a court witness against his hero.



* ''Film/BatmanForever'': Much like the Syndrome example, this is how Dr. Edward Nygma AKA the Riddler started out. He idolized Bruce Wayne and wanted Bruce's approval of his "Mind manipulation Box." Bruce rejects Dr. Nygma's project, stating that it "raises too many questions." As his idol leaves, Nygma vows revenge, the first step of him becoming the Riddler.

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* ''Film/BatmanForever'': Much like the Syndrome example, this is how Dr. Edward Nygma AKA the Riddler started out. He idolized Bruce Wayne and wanted Bruce's approval of his "Mind manipulation Box." Bruce rejects Dr. Nygma's project, stating that it "raises too many questions." As his idol leaves, Nygma vows revenge, the first step of toward him becoming the Riddler.



* A slightly [[{{Narm}} hilarious]] version of this occurred on ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' when Elliot found out that his famous astronaut friend, whom he'd ''named his son after'', was in fact [[spoiler:a murderer]].

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* A slightly [[{{Narm}} hilarious]] version of this occurred on ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' when Elliot found out that his famous astronaut friend, after whom he'd ''named his son after'', son'', was in fact [[spoiler:a murderer]].



** Similar to this the great Time Lords the Doctor looked up to often don't live up to expectation. Omega, who was thought to have died during experiments that enabled the Time Lords to master time travel, turns out to have survived and gone insane. In the audio drama [[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho050Zagreus Zagreus]] towards the end the Eighth Doctor goes on a big rant about how terrible his heroes are [[spoiler:the First Time Lord President Rassilon turns out to be an EvilutionaryBiologist who has prevented entire races from existing to ensure the Time Lords power]].
* In the ''Series/FamilyMatters'' episode "False Arrest", the Winslow family becoming enthralled with a TV actor name Buddy Goodrich (one of those wholesome dad types usually see in sitcoms), save Carl. He winds up meeting the actor to simply to ask him to move his car off a handicap spot. Buddy, however, turns out to be rude and quite arrogant, to the point he even attacks Carl forcing him to arrest Buddy. The media paints ''Carl'' as the offender though and the family likewise think Carl was being too harsh on Buddy. That is until Buddy comes to the Winslow house to bribe Carl into throwing out the offense, to which the family overhear as he tries to do it. Needless to say, their giddiness at meeting him quickly turns to this.
* ''Series/SisterSister'': "The Concert" has Tia and Tamara being big fans of a rapper called Cold Dog (much to the chagrin of their parents, who don't like his lyrics) and get to meet the man at a backstage party, only to find that he's a whiny, demanding jerk. They pretty much swear off both him and his songs not long after.

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** Similar to this the great Time Lords the Doctor looked up to often don't live up to expectation. Omega, who was thought to have died during experiments that enabled the Time Lords to master time travel, turns out to have survived and gone insane. In the audio drama [[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho050Zagreus Zagreus]] towards the end the Eighth Doctor goes on a big rant about how terrible his heroes are [[spoiler:the First Time Lord President Rassilon turns out to be an EvilutionaryBiologist who has prevented entire races from existing to ensure the Time Lords Lords' power]].
* In the ''Series/FamilyMatters'' episode "False Arrest", the Winslow family becoming becomes enthralled with a TV actor name Buddy Goodrich (one of those wholesome dad types usually see seen in sitcoms), save Carl. He winds up meeting the actor to simply to ask him to move his car off a handicap spot. Buddy, however, turns out to be rude and quite arrogant, to the point he even attacks Carl forcing him to arrest Buddy. The media paints ''Carl'' as the offender though and the family likewise think Carl was being too harsh on Buddy. That is until Then Buddy comes to the Winslow house to bribe Carl into throwing out the offense, to which the rest of the family overhear as he tries to do it. overhears. Needless to say, their giddiness at meeting him quickly turns to this.into this trope.
* ''Series/SisterSister'': "The Concert" has Tia and Tamara being big fans of a rapper called Cold Dog (much to the chagrin of their parents, who don't like his lyrics) and get to meet the man at a backstage party, only to find that he's a whiny, demanding jerk. They pretty much swear off both him and his songs not long after.afterward.
21st Jan '18 4:45:11 PM LadyNorbert
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* ''Film/BatmanForever'': Much like the Syndrome example, this is how Dr. Edward Nygma AKA the Riddler started out. Formerly idolized by Bruce Wayne, Nygma wanted approval of his "Mind manipulation Box." Bruce rejects Dr. Nygma's project, stating that it "raises too many questions." As his idol leaves, Nygma vows revenge, the first step of him becoming the Riddler.

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* ''Film/BatmanForever'': Much like the Syndrome example, this is how Dr. Edward Nygma AKA the Riddler started out. Formerly He idolized by Bruce Wayne, Nygma Wayne and wanted Bruce's approval of his "Mind manipulation Box." Bruce rejects Dr. Nygma's project, stating that it "raises too many questions." As his idol leaves, Nygma vows revenge, the first step of him becoming the Riddler.



* ''Series/SisterSister'': "The Concert" has Tia and Tamara being big fans of a rapper called Cold Dog (much to the chagrin of their parents who don't like his lyrics) and get to meet the man at a backstage party. Only to find that he's a whiny, demanding jerk. They pretty much swear off him and his songs not long after.

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* ''Series/SisterSister'': "The Concert" has Tia and Tamara being big fans of a rapper called Cold Dog (much to the chagrin of their parents parents, who don't like his lyrics) and get to meet the man at a backstage party. Only party, only to find that he's a whiny, demanding jerk. They pretty much swear off both him and his songs not long after.



** ''Something Positive'' also featured a couple of the main characters writing "Neko Neko Holy-chan", a webcomic which was an over-the-top {{catgirl}} webcomic to make money from merchandising, which acquired a large and very obsessive fanbase. Disillusioned at a FanConvention ([[spoiler: one of the creators objects to the murder of a man who spoke against the comic, claiming it isn't that important]]), they tear the convention-goers apart in a bloody rampage.
* Minmax gets it pretty hard in ''{{Webcomic/Goblins}}'' when it turns out his idolised Dellyn Goblin-Slayer is much more than just a heroic scourge of AlwaysChaoticEvil species... To name just a couple of things, [[spoiler: leading exceedingly cruel experiments on a number of varyingly intelligent creatures, and keeping a Yuan-Ti to beat and rape her frequently only to heal her for repeats.]]

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** ''Something Positive'' also featured a couple of the main characters writing "Neko Neko Holy-chan", a webcomic which was an over-the-top {{catgirl}} webcomic purely intended to make money from merchandising, which acquired a large and very obsessive fanbase. Disillusioned at a FanConvention ([[spoiler: one ([[spoiler:one of the creators objects to the murder of a man who spoke against the comic, claiming it isn't that important]]), they the fangirls tear the convention-goers apart in a bloody rampage.
* Minmax gets it pretty hard in ''{{Webcomic/Goblins}}'' when it turns out his idolised Dellyn Goblin-Slayer is much more than just a heroic scourge of AlwaysChaoticEvil species... To name just a couple of things, [[spoiler: leading exceedingly cruel experiments on a number of varyingly intelligent creatures, creatures of varying intelligence, and keeping a Yuan-Ti to beat and rape her frequently only to heal her for repeats.]]


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* In the ''WesternAnimation/TinyToonAdventures'' special episode "How I Spent My Summer Vacation," Fifi [=LaFume=] is obsessed with teen actor Johnny Pew. She gets to meet him and fawn over him in person, and at first he seems like a fairly decent guy, consoling her when he doesn't have a pen to sign her photo. Over the next few weeks he becomes increasingly demanding, having her carry things for him and other menial tasks. She finally has enough when a pretty girl asks for his autograph, and he pulls out a pen (which he's apparently had the whole time) and signs ''Fifi's'' photo and gives it to the other girl. Fifi calls him out and proceeds to throw him bodily out of the theater where all this takes place, and is applauded by her fellow moviegoers.
26th Nov '17 7:03:40 PM PaulA
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* The whole of fandom, and especially FanDumb, is parodied in Sharyn [=McCrumb=]'s murder-mystery ''Literature/BimbosOfTheDeathSun''. The murder victim is Appin Dungannon, author of a ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian''-like series of novels who's described as "a malevolent elf with a drinking problem", being selfish, ill-tempered, capricious, and incredibly rude. However, a look in his mind shows that he's a victim of ArtistDisillusionment himself, and is trying to inflict this upon his fans so they'll grow up and do something better with their lives.
** The sequel, ''Zombies of the Gene Pool'', centers around a group of wannabe authors who buried a time capsule in the 1950s before parting ways; one member, Pat Malone, made his dramatic exit from fandom by publishing a vitriolic screed exposing the petty politics and minutiae of SF fans. During a one-on-one conversation with the main character, he explains (more tired than angry) that this trope was the reason he wrote his book and left fandom in such dramatic fashion.
*** ''Zombies'' has a more dramatic example, as Brendan Surn (a member who ''did'' become a success) has an assistant who used to be a normal fan. She loved his works and wanted to become friends, but when she got to his house she found an old man with Alzheimer's who needed help, and took it upon herself to care for him. Another of the group relates a similar story from her own fandom, but says that she eventually realized that fans tend to build up authors to be more than are or are capable of being, which is a disservice to everyone involved.

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* Sharyn [=McCrumb=]'s works:
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The whole of fandom, and especially FanDumb, is parodied in Sharyn [=McCrumb=]'s the murder-mystery ''Literature/BimbosOfTheDeathSun''. The murder victim is Appin Dungannon, author of a ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian''-like series of novels who's described as "a malevolent elf with a drinking problem", being selfish, ill-tempered, capricious, and incredibly rude. However, a look in his mind shows that he's a victim of ArtistDisillusionment himself, and is trying to inflict this upon his fans so they'll grow up and do something better with their lives.
** The sequel, ''Zombies of the Gene Pool'', ''Literature/ZombiesOfTheGenePool'', centers around a group of wannabe authors who buried a time capsule in the 1950s before parting ways; one member, Pat Malone, made his dramatic exit from fandom by publishing a vitriolic screed exposing the petty politics and minutiae of SF fans. During a one-on-one conversation with the main character, he explains (more tired than angry) that this trope was the reason he wrote his book and left fandom in such dramatic fashion.
*** ** ''Zombies'' has a more dramatic example, as Brendan Surn (a member who ''did'' become a success) has an assistant who used to be a normal fan. She loved his works and wanted to become friends, but when she got to his house she found an old man with Alzheimer's who needed help, and took it upon herself to care for him. Another of the group relates a similar story from her own fandom, but says that she eventually realized that fans tend to build up authors to be more than are or are capable of being, which is a disservice to everyone involved.
3rd Aug '17 3:53:52 PM SickBoy
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* ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2'' had Maxwell Dillon going into this when Spider-Man tries to talk him down but forgets his name (to be fair he wasn't glowing with blue electric energy in their second encounter).

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* ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2'' had Maxwell Dillon going into this when Spider-Man tries to talk him down but forgets his name (to be fair he wasn't glowing with blue electric energy in their second first encounter).
28th May '17 1:24:35 PM nombretomado
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* ''Film/ComicBookTheMovie'' is a rare case of dealing with this from ''both'' sides - the star of the film is a fan who feels overly slighted by an upcoming film based on his comic book hero and his war with a studio that doesn't give a crap. It leans more towards the fandom view in the end, but takes more than a few shots at them. As the film was a project by comic geek and nerd icon MarkHamill, much of the fandom humor was also [[SelfDeprecation self-deprecating]].

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* ''Film/ComicBookTheMovie'' is a rare case of dealing with this from ''both'' sides - the star of the film is a fan who feels overly slighted by an upcoming film based on his comic book hero and his war with a studio that doesn't give a crap. It leans more towards the fandom view in the end, but takes more than a few shots at them. As the film was a project by comic geek and nerd icon MarkHamill, Creator/MarkHamill, much of the fandom humor was also [[SelfDeprecation self-deprecating]].
1st Mar '17 10:35:15 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* [[Music/AllShallPerish Ben Orum]] told an interviewer about how his opinion of Malevolent Creation (which he was a big fan of) was ruined by his first encounter with Phil Fasciana, who responded to Orum's adulatory greeting by asking him if he had any cocaine, then proceeding to verbally abuse Orum and call All Shall Perish a "nigger band" when Orum told him that he didn't have any.
28th Jan '17 8:55:30 AM CASCHero
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* ''Film/TheAmazinSpiderMan2'' had Maxwell Dillon going into this when Spider-Man tries to talk him down but forgets his name (to be fair he wasn't glowing with blue electric energy in their second encounter).

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* ''Film/TheAmazinSpiderMan2'' ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2'' had Maxwell Dillon going into this when Spider-Man tries to talk him down but forgets his name (to be fair he wasn't glowing with blue electric energy in their second encounter).
28th Jan '17 8:55:02 AM CASCHero
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* ''Film/TheAmazinSpiderMan2'' had Maxwell Dillon going into this when Spider-Man tries to talk him down but forgets his name (to be fair he wasn't glowing with blue electric energy in their second encounter).
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