History Main / ElementNumberFive

25th Sep '17 3:24:34 PM N1KF
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Another common variation is for this to be some kind of mental, spiritual, or [[PureEnergy energy]]-related {{foil}} to the physical elements; ThePowerOfLove, MindControl, and LightEmUp are all common choices. The above rules may still apply (especially if the hero or the villain are the ones using it), but non-omniscient powers are equally likely to be balanced as not. The InverseLawOfComplexityToPower often favors ElementNumberFive since it doesn't always fit the same system as the rest.

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Another common variation is for this to be some kind of mental, spiritual, or [[PureEnergy energy]]-related {{foil}} to the physical elements; ThePowerOfLove, MindControl, and LightEmUp are all common choices. The above rules may still apply (especially if the hero or the villain are the ones using it), but non-omniscient powers are equally likely to be balanced as not. The InverseLawOfComplexityToPower often favors ElementNumberFive Element Number Five since it doesn't always fit the same system as the rest.



* One of the more interesting ideas of this was featured in a ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' novel, where an Indian magical theorist worked out a different ElementNumberFive than the usual Chinese translation. Specifically, he found that while Fire, Earth, and Water matched up to their standard concepts, the literal translations for Wood and Metal were "Wood that burns" and "Metal that gleams" respectively. "Wood that burns" would be perhaps one of the only ways to visualize Air (as smoke), so perhaps it also wasn't the Metal ancient Chinese mages were referring to... but the gleam. Then he summons a Light elemental which he designates as a "Farohad," it incinerates him, and escapes, then begins making hit-and-run attacks on the Matrix (the futuristic, VR-based internet) to destroy all traces of itself. Unfortunately, since the scientist's project was called "The Lucifer Project," this ends up creating lots of collateral damage to places like churches, seminaries, and an unfortunate woman named Lucille Ferraro.

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* One of the more interesting ideas of this was featured in a ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' novel, where an Indian magical theorist worked out a different ElementNumberFive Element Number Five than the usual Chinese translation. Specifically, he found that while Fire, Earth, and Water matched up to their standard concepts, the literal translations for Wood and Metal were "Wood that burns" and "Metal that gleams" respectively. "Wood that burns" would be perhaps one of the only ways to visualize Air (as smoke), so perhaps it also wasn't the Metal ancient Chinese mages were referring to... but the gleam. Then he summons a Light elemental which he designates as a "Farohad," it incinerates him, and escapes, then begins making hit-and-run attacks on the Matrix (the futuristic, VR-based internet) to destroy all traces of itself. Unfortunately, since the scientist's project was called "The Lucifer Project," this ends up creating lots of collateral damage to places like churches, seminaries, and an unfortunate woman named Lucille Ferraro.
31st Aug '17 3:20:01 PM WillKeaton
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In spite of the name, this trope can also be another number- the Chinese elemental system, for example, normally contains five elements (Earth, Fire, Water, Metal, and Wood), so in works based on that mythology this will be Element Number Six. This trope occurs naturally in the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_(classical_element) Greek]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B6n#Elements Tibetan]], [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element#Classical_elements_in_Babylonia Babylonian]] and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_elements_%28Japanese_philosophy%29 Japanese]] elemental systems, where Aether, Space, Sky and [[PowerOfTheVoid Void]] fulfill the narrative role of this trope - note that these four are essentially the same thing.

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In spite of the name, this trope can also be another number- the Chinese elemental system, for example, normally contains five elements (Earth, Fire, Water, Metal, and Wood), so in works based on that mythology this will be Element Number Six. This trope occurs naturally in the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_(classical_element) Greek]], Greek,]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B6n#Elements Tibetan]], Tibetan,]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_element#Classical_elements_in_Babylonia Babylonian]] and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_elements_%28Japanese_philosophy%29 Japanese]] elemental systems, where Aether, Space, Sky and [[PowerOfTheVoid Void]] fulfill the narrative role of this trope - note that these four are essentially the same thing.
28th Jun '17 5:35:02 PM nombretomado
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** Actually, at least according to TheOtherWiki, there are at least ''seven'' other states of matter, meaning that, under certain interpretations, there are up to twelve elements in RealLife.

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** Actually, at least according to TheOtherWiki, Wiki/TheOtherWiki, there are at least ''seven'' other states of matter, meaning that, under certain interpretations, there are up to twelve elements in RealLife.
26th Jun '17 12:20:50 PM peixe200
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* ''Film/TheFifthElement'' uses this trope as a central plot point, as the title implies. However, it's not until the very end that this is explained. While Leeloo is called "the Fifth Element", WordOfGod says the actual fifth element is [[spoiler:love]].

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* ''Film/TheFifthElement'' uses this trope as a central plot point, as the title implies. However, it's not until the very end that this is explained. While Leeloo is called "the Fifth Element", WordOfGod says the actual fifth element is [[spoiler:love]].[[spoiler:sex]].
26th Jun '17 12:18:13 PM peixe200
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* ''Film/TheFifthElement'' uses this trope as a central plot point, as the title implies. However, it's not until the very end that this is explained. While Leeloo is called "the Fifth Element", WordOfGod says the actual fifth element is [[spoiler:sex]].

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* ''Film/TheFifthElement'' uses this trope as a central plot point, as the title implies. However, it's not until the very end that this is explained. While Leeloo is called "the Fifth Element", WordOfGod says the actual fifth element is [[spoiler:sex]].[[spoiler:love]].
12th Jun '17 4:44:39 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* Seen often in ''Series/SuperSentai'' and ''Series/PowerRangers'', where ElementalPowers are frequent. First you have to come up with a fifth "normal" element to round out the FiveManBand, then you have to have one that's genuinely outside the system for the SixthRanger.

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* Seen often in ''Series/SuperSentai'' ''Franchise/SuperSentai'' and ''Series/PowerRangers'', ''Franchise/PowerRangers'', where ElementalPowers are frequent. First you have to come up with a fifth "normal" element to round out the FiveManBand, then you have to have one that's genuinely outside the system for the SixthRanger.
13th May '17 12:15:04 PM nombretomado
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* In ''LuminousArc2'', [[spoiler:[[CoolBigSis Ayano]], [[TheDragon Bharva]] and [[FinalBoss the Mage Queen]], [[WellIntentionedExtremist Elicia]]]] possess the [[AntiMagic Silver element,]] which is resistant to all other elements. In particular, [[spoiler:[[GlassCannon Ayano]]]] can use it to the point that [[spoiler:she]] can efectively nullify all magical damage for a turn.

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* In ''LuminousArc2'', ''VideoGame/LuminousArc2'', [[spoiler:[[CoolBigSis Ayano]], [[TheDragon Bharva]] and [[FinalBoss the Mage Queen]], [[WellIntentionedExtremist Elicia]]]] possess the [[AntiMagic Silver element,]] which is resistant to all other elements. In particular, [[spoiler:[[GlassCannon Ayano]]]] can use it to the point that [[spoiler:she]] can efectively nullify all magical damage for a turn.
27th Apr '17 5:43:23 PM Gatordragon24
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* In ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' there are four elements: fire, ice, candy, and slime. There are also four [[ElementalEmbodiment embodiments]] for each element: Flame Princess, Patience St. Pim, Princess Bubblegum, and Slime Princess respectively. However, the "Elements" miniseries introduces a fifth element which holds the universe together: [[spoiler: lumps and Lumpy Space Princess is the embodiment of it]].
19th Apr '17 12:38:30 AM Ryulong
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* The ''TabletopGame/Pokemon'' trading card game started out with Fire, Water, Grass, Lightning, Fighting, Psychic, and Colorless, none of which had any real benefit over the others and simply were set up to match the types from the video game. Dark, Steel, and Fairy were added as well as Dragon, which is the only one that matches a "Fifth (Eleventh?) Element" status in that Dragon cards have no associated Energy card, instead using other Energy cards (a Double Dragon Energy card exists but it serves as two Rainbow Energies when attached to a Dragon card).

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* The ''TabletopGame/Pokemon'' ''TabletopGame/{{Pokemon}}'' trading card game started out with Fire, Water, Grass, Lightning, Fighting, Psychic, and Colorless, none of which had any real benefit over the others and simply were set up to match the types from the video game. Dark, Steel, and Fairy were added as well as Dragon, which is the only one that matches a "Fifth (Eleventh?) Element" status in that Dragon cards have no associated Energy card, instead using other Energy cards (a Double Dragon Energy card exists but it serves as two Rainbow Energies when attached to a Dragon card).
19th Apr '17 12:37:59 AM Ryulong
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* The ''TabletopGame/Pokemon'' trading card game started out with Fire, Water, Grass, Lightning, Fighting, Psychic, and Colorless, none of which had any real benefit over the others and simply were set up to match the types from the video game. Dark, Steel, and Fairy were added as well as Dragon, which is the only one that matches a "Fifth (Eleventh?) Element" status in that Dragon cards have no associated Energy card, instead using other Energy cards (a Double Dragon Energy card exists but it serves as two Rainbow Energies when attached to a Dragon card).
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