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21st Apr '16 2:40:26 PM Dravencour
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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But whatever the service, whatever the offer, what defines a Deal with the Devil is that the deal ''always'' comes with a price, a ruinous cost that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].

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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But whatever the service, whatever the offer, what defines a Deal with the Devil is that the this deal ''always'' comes with a price, a ruinous and often hidden cost that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].



An alternate form is a deal where the Mephistopheles offers the Faust exactly what he wants, if not more, but to get it, he has to undergo an ImpossibleTask Mephistopheles obviously does not think the Faust can complete, with Faust's soul as the penalty if he fails. Alternately, the deal truly has no strings attached, as it's a XanatosGambit where the Faust's good fortune or success will deliver the soul of another to Mephistopheles.

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An alternate form is a deal where the Mephistopheles offers the Faust exactly what he wants, if not more, but to get it, he has to undergo an ImpossibleTask that Mephistopheles obviously does not think the Faust can complete, with the Faust's soul as the penalty if he fails. Alternately, the deal truly has no strings attached, as it's a XanatosGambit where the Faust's good fortune or success will deliver the soul of another to Mephistopheles.
21st Apr '16 2:34:30 PM Dravencour
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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But what defines a Deal with the Devil is that the deal ''always'' comes with a price, a ruinous cost that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].

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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But whatever the service, whatever the offer, what defines a Deal with the Devil is that the deal ''always'' comes with a price, a ruinous cost that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].
11th Apr '16 9:52:26 PM Dravencour
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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But the defining feature of any Deal with the Devil is that the deal ''always'' comes with a price, a ruinous cost that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].

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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But the defining feature of any what defines a Deal with the Devil is that the deal ''always'' comes with a price, a ruinous cost that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].
11th Apr '16 9:49:19 PM Dravencour
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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But there is ''always'' a catch to a contract like this, a ruinous price that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].

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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But there the defining feature of any Deal with the Devil is that the deal ''always'' comes with a catch to a contract like this, price, a ruinous price cost that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].
16th Mar '16 9:33:48 AM justanid
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Note that [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils actual devils]] [[LawfulEvil will always follow through with their end]], even if their end is a [[JackassGenie sinister bastardization of the terms]]. Thus always remember to ReadTheFinePrint and have an experience in law with you if you try to do this. We never see Mephistopheles simply take the soul and run like an amateur scammer; [[IGaveMyWord he gave his word, narrated the fine print]], [[MagicallyBindingContract put his name on the dotted line]] and made the wish come true. As icing on the cake, the Mephistopheles sometimes makes sure or just shows in reality that the gift is, in itself, [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor detrimental to the life of the Faust and others around him in the first place]] - especially if there's a chance at {{irony}}, where [[GiftOfTheMagiPlot lacking their "soul", the element they gave up as payment, is the only thing that makes the gift worthless]].

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Note that [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils actual devils]] [[LawfulEvil will always follow through with their end]], even if their end is a [[JackassGenie sinister bastardization of the terms]]. Thus always remember to ReadTheFinePrint and have an experience in law with you if you try to do this. We never see Mephistopheles simply take the soul and run like an amateur scammer; [[IGaveMyWord he gave his word, narrated the fine print]], [[MagicallyBindingContract put his name on the dotted line]] and made the wish come true. As icing on the cake, the Mephistopheles sometimes makes sure or just shows in reality that the gift is, in itself, [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor detrimental to the life of the Faust and others around him in the first place]] - -- especially if there's a chance at {{irony}}, where [[GiftOfTheMagiPlot lacking their "soul", the element they gave up as payment, is the only thing that makes the gift worthless]].
worthless]]. The character who offers the deal is often, though not always, TheCorrupter (and not all Corrupters use this as a tactic).



# It may be possible to gain enough power through the deal to prevent the devil from forcing you to keep your promise - [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu or just kill him.]] See FaustianRebellion.
# [[TooSpicyForYogSothoth Use your new power to annoy the underworld so much that your deal gets nullified simply to get rid of you.]]

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# It may be possible to gain enough power through the deal to prevent the devil from forcing you to keep your promise - [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu promise--[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu or just kill him.]] See FaustianRebellion.
# Use your new power to [[TooSpicyForYogSothoth Use your new power to annoy the underworld so much that your deal gets nullified simply to get rid of you.]]you]].



# In comical versions, if the devil is female - usually some apprentice demon who always fails - of course she will be insanely sexy or cute (according to EvilIsCool, EvilIsSexy, HornyDevils and CuteMonsterGirl rule), so why not ask her to become your girlfriend or wife?

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# In comical versions, if the devil is female - -- usually some apprentice demon who always fails - -- of course she will be insanely sexy or cute (according to EvilIsCool, EvilIsSexy, HornyDevils and CuteMonsterGirl rule), so why not ask her to become your girlfriend or wife?



# Manipulate some tiny, arcane loophole or hire some RulesLawyer to render the contract null and void. (Rarely successful, [[EvilLawyerJoke Hell is full of lawyers after all]] and "Satan" literally means "prosecutor".)

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# Manipulate some tiny, arcane loophole or hire some RulesLawyer to render the contract null and void. (Rarely successful, [[EvilLawyerJoke Hell is full of lawyers after all]] and "Satan" literally means "prosecutor".all]].)



The character who offers the deal is often, though not always, TheCorrupter (and not all Corrupters use this as a tactic).

There is an Inversion of this trope largely [[ForgottenTrope forgotten]] in the mainstream, but still very much in use in some contexts: The BargainWithHeaven. Compare also ReasoningWithGod.

For the occasions when the Devil comes out ''behind'', see DidYouJustScamCthulhu.

Compare the supertrope, PowerAtAPrice, and its other subtropes.

DevilsJobOffer is a specific subtrope.

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The character who offers PowerAtAPrice is the deal supertrope. DevilsJobOffer is often, though not always, TheCorrupter (and not all Corrupters use this as a tactic).

There is
subtrope.

Compare BargainWithHeaven, the
an Inversion [[InvertedTrope Inversion]] of this trope largely [[ForgottenTrope forgotten]] in the mainstream, but still very much in use in some contexts: The BargainWithHeaven. contexts. Compare also ReasoningWithGod.

ReasoningWithGod. For the occasions when the Devil comes out ''behind'', see DidYouJustScamCthulhu.

Compare the supertrope, PowerAtAPrice, and its other subtropes.

DevilsJobOffer is a specific subtrope.
DidYouJustScamCthulhu.
1st Mar '16 9:15:41 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Satan claimed responsibility for QT Marshall's Wrestling/RingOfHonor employment at ''A Night Of Hoopla''.
1st Mar '16 9:10:28 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Matt Tremont justified working with Drew Blood by explaining that he had scene a ladder leading up to heaven through a light Blood had told him to look at and came to the realization that there was no God, that the closest thing to God was himself because he was the savior of Wrestling/CombatZoneWrestling but that [[DevilButNoGod the devil was in fact real]] because he realized in the same moment it was Blood.[[/folder]]

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* Matt Tremont justified working with Drew Blood by explaining that he had scene a ladder leading up to heaven through a light Blood had told him to look at and came to the realization that there was no God, that the closest thing to God was himself because he was the savior of Wrestling/CombatZoneWrestling but that [[DevilButNoGod the devil was in fact real]] because he realized in the same moment it was Blood.[[/folder]]
Blood.
* In Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA Houston and Lonestar Championship Wrestling, Prince Kanu has a reputation for duping and manipulating wrestlers into signing one sided contracts and taking unnecessary wagers. Read the fine print![[/folder]]
25th Feb '16 1:42:19 AM Dravencour
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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But there is ''always'' a catch to a crooked deal like this, a ruinous price that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].

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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But there is ''always'' a catch to a crooked deal contract like this, a ruinous price that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].
24th Feb '16 1:16:14 PM Dravencour
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You know how it works. Want to be a [[{{Fiction 500}} trillionaire]], TakeOverTheWorld, gain [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Omniscience]], or just to get back at that obnoxious JerkJock? Well travel down to [[AtTheCrossroads those crossroads]] and [[LouisCypher Mr. S]] will guarantee your wildest dreams, if you just sign on the dotted line with your own blood. This trope is OlderThanSteam, and does not even require the Abrahamic Devil; any {{trickster|s}} or evil deity [[EverybodyHatesHades roughly equivalent]] to {{Satan}} can be used. It reached its current version in the 16th-century legend of {{Faust}} selling his soul to Mephistopheles (who technically isn't ''quite'' exactly Satan or Lucifer, but still a high-ranking demon).

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You know how it works. Want to be a [[{{Fiction 500}} trillionaire]], TakeOverTheWorld, gain [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Omniscience]], or just to get back at that obnoxious JerkJock? Well travel down to [[AtTheCrossroads those crossroads]] and [[LouisCypher Mr. S]] will [[YourHeartsDesire guarantee your wildest dreams, dreams]], if you just sign on the dotted line with your own blood. This trope is OlderThanSteam, and does not even require the Abrahamic Devil; any {{trickster|s}} or evil deity [[EverybodyHatesHades roughly equivalent]] to {{Satan}} can be used. It reached its current version in the 16th-century legend of {{Faust}} selling his soul to Mephistopheles (who technically isn't ''quite'' exactly Satan or Lucifer, but still a high-ranking demon).
11th Dec '15 5:06:40 AM Dravencour
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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But the key to this trope is that there is ''always'' a catch to a deal like this, a ruinous price that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].

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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But the key to this trope is that there is ''always'' a catch to a crooked deal like this, a ruinous price that the Mephistopheles will either ask or demand of the Faust as "payment" for their generous service. It could be ''anything'' -- their soul, their conscience, their sanity, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent but with bad consequences]].
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