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26th Jan '18 9:16:55 PM DustSnitch
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* DealWithTheDevil/{{Manhwa}}


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[[folder:Manhwa]]
* The protagonist of ''Manhwa/{{Priest}}'', Ivan Isaacs, makes a deal with the demon Bethael/Belial which involves giving up half his soul.
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4th Jan '18 3:20:21 PM mlsmithca
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* The first page quote spoofs the fact that end-user licence agreements ''do'' make you click "I Agree" to a lot of legal TechnoBabble that most people don't bother reading and most who try don't understand[[note]]A recent (October 2014) study found that, in order to read all the [=EULAs=] a typical person would encounter in a given year, it would take ''74 '''days'''''[[/note]]. Subverted in that, for this exact reason, there's doubt over whether they're actually legally binding.

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* The first page quote spoofs the fact that end-user licence agreements ''do'' make you click "I Agree" to a lot of legal TechnoBabble that most people don't bother reading and most who try don't understand[[note]]A recent (October 2014) understand[[note]]An October 2014 study found that, in order to read all the [=EULAs=] a typical person would encounter in a given year, it would take ''74 '''days'''''[[/note]].days''[[/note]]. Subverted in that, for this exact reason, there's doubt over whether they're actually legally binding.
4th Jan '18 12:40:18 PM bitemytail
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[[caption-width-right:219:Behind this cutesy facade is a VERY BrokenAesop and [[NintendoHard insane]] difficulty.]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:"Sign here,
and [[NintendoHard insane]] difficulty.]]here. Oh, don't worry about that, [[BlatantLies the soul consumption clause is never exercised]]."]]
3rd Jan '18 9:56:48 AM Foxtrope
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[[caption-width-right:350:"Sign here, and here. Oh, don't worry about that, [[BlatantLies the soul consumption clause is never exercised]]."]]

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[[caption-width-right:219:Behind this cutesy facade is a VERY BrokenAesop
and here. Oh, don't worry about that, [[BlatantLies the soul consumption clause is never exercised]]."]]
[[NintendoHard insane]] difficulty.]]
7th Dec '17 2:32:10 AM WillBGood
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Note that [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils actual devils]] [[LawfulEvil will always follow through with their end]], even if their end is a [[JackassGenie sinister bastardization of the terms]]. Thus always remember to ReadTheFinePrint and have an experience in law with you if you try to do this. We never see Mephistopheles simply take the soul and run like an amateur scammer; [[IGaveMyWord he gave his word, narrated the fine print]], [[MagicallyBindingContract put his name on the dotted line]] and made the wish come true. As icing on the cake, the Mephistopheles sometimes makes sure or just shows in reality that the gift is, in itself, [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor detrimental to the life of the Faust and others around him in the first place]] -- especially if there's a chance at {{irony}}, where [[GiftOfTheMagiPlot lacking their "soul", the element they gave up as payment, is the only thing that makes the gift worthless]]. The character who offers the deal is often, though not always, TheCorrupter (and not all Corrupters use this as a tactic).

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Note that [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils actual devils]] [[LawfulEvil will always follow through with their end]], even if their end is a [[JackassGenie sinister bastardization of the terms]]. Thus always remember to ReadTheFinePrint and have an experience in law with you if you try to do this. We never see Mephistopheles simply take the soul and run like an amateur scammer; [[IGaveMyWord he gave his word, narrated the fine print]], [[MagicallyBindingContract put his name on the dotted line]] and made the wish come true. As icing on the cake, the Mephistopheles sometimes makes sure or just shows in reality that the gift is, in itself, [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor detrimental to the life of the Faust and others around him in the first place]] -- especially if there's a chance at {{irony}}, where [[GiftOfTheMagiPlot lacking their "soul", the element they gave up as payment, is the only thing that [[GiftOfTheMagiPlot ultimately makes the gift worthless]]. The character who offers the deal is often, though not always, TheCorrupter (and not all Corrupters use this as a tactic).
4th Nov '17 10:15:01 PM memememememe
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* Usury, aka taking loans. The lender and borrower will pledge into well, a Loan Contract. The lender will lend his money at first, but some time in the future force the borrower to pay back more. Interest is where the debt multiplies over time. If the borrowers can no longer pay back the interest, then bad things (bankruptcy, seizing your bankrupt assets as collateral, or even debt slavery) happen. For a more profound example, taking a desperate loan out from the mafia, a MorallyBankruptBanker, or comparable organization of {{Loan Shark}}s. You can get a huge loan, no questions asked, or even access to something else you need... but you'll will be forced to pay back a LOT more than you otherwise would, sometimes with your possessions, life, organs, or forced service.

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* Usury, aka taking loans. The lender and borrower will pledge into well, a Loan Contract. The lender will lend his money at first, first so you can immediately use it, but some time in the future force the borrower to pay back more. Interest is where the debt multiplies over time. If the borrowers can no longer pay back the interest, then bad things (bankruptcy, seizing your bankrupt assets as collateral, or even debt slavery) happen. For a more profound example, taking a desperate loan out from the mafia, a MorallyBankruptBanker, or comparable organization of {{Loan Shark}}s. You can get a huge loan, no questions asked, or even access to something else you need... but you'll will be forced to pay back a LOT more than you otherwise would, sometimes with your possessions, life, organs, or forced service.
9th Sep '17 5:35:16 PM Prime32
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# Conversely, [[WowingCthulhu impress or entertain the devil so much]] that taking your soul would seem like a waste.
9th Aug '17 7:33:25 PM TheNerfGuy
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* ConspiracyTheories claim many celebrities make it big in show business and music by making a deal like this with UsefulNotes/TheIlluminati. They claim such artists can be identified by how they cover one eye and make triangular hand signals in their released works. Why an evil all-seeing cabal doesn't bother to change its methods or signals now that these folks are "on to them" is something they never explain.
8th Aug '17 7:21:36 AM Dravencour
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Deal With The Devil plots can overlap with WhatAnIdiot, as smart and rational people know to stay well the hell away from deals like these. Some writers try to defend the Faust by turning the deal into a LeonineContract - either the deal was made under some kind of duress, or the Mephistopheles made the offer when the victim had no time to think (e.g., offering to save him from the DeathTrap in return for something nasty). Others make the contract so long, complex and filled with Latin-esque legal jargon that no one will ReadTheFinePrint [[SevenDeadlySins (Sloth is a very undervalued sin)]]. Also expect ExactWords and YouDidntAsk to be employed against the Faust.

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Deal With The Devil plots can overlap with WhatAnIdiot, as smart and rational people know to stay well the hell away from deals like these. Some writers try to defend the Faust by turning the deal into a LeonineContract - either the deal was made when the Faust was in desperate straits or under some kind of duress, or the Mephistopheles made the offer when the victim had no time to think (e.g., offering to save him from the DeathTrap in return for something nasty). Others make the contract so long, complex and filled with Latin-esque legal jargon that no one will ReadTheFinePrint [[SevenDeadlySins (Sloth is a very undervalued sin)]]. Also expect ExactWords and YouDidntAsk to be employed against the Faust.
7th Aug '17 4:42:03 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* ConspiracyTheories claim many celebrities make it big in show business and music by making a deal like this with UsefulNotes/TheIlluminati. They claim such artists can be identified by how they cover one eye and make triangular hand signals in their released works. (Why an evil all-seeing cabal doesn't bother to change its methods or signals now that these folks are "on to them" is something they never explain.)

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* ConspiracyTheories claim many celebrities make it big in show business and music by making a deal like this with UsefulNotes/TheIlluminati. They claim such artists can be identified by how they cover one eye and make triangular hand signals in their released works. (Why Why an evil all-seeing cabal doesn't bother to change its methods or signals now that these folks are "on to them" is something they never explain.)
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