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20th Jun '16 11:21:20 PM erforce
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* Megan, the little girl kidnapped in the Film/AlexCross movie ''Along Came a Spider'' is immediately suspicious when only one person ([[spoiler: the DirtyCop Flanningan]]) has come to 'rescue' her, asking "where's the other guy?", and is not at all moved by the fact that the person trying to persuade her to come out is [[spoiler: {{female|sAreMoreInnocent}}]]. She buys herself precious time by being suspicious and running away.

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* Megan, the little girl kidnapped in the Film/AlexCross movie ''Along Came a Spider'' ''Film/AlongCameASpider'' is immediately suspicious when only one person ([[spoiler: the DirtyCop Flanningan]]) has come to 'rescue' her, asking "where's the other guy?", and is not at all moved by the fact that the person trying to persuade her to come out is [[spoiler: {{female|sAreMoreInnocent}}]]. She buys herself precious time by being suspicious and running away.
7th Jun '16 10:49:43 AM KingCrInuYasha
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* The ''Franchise/MegaMan'' fan video [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpP_BKPa5Oc "The Last Days Of Dr. Wily"]] has Dr. Wily becoming this, where he dumps the tropes found in the games [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim in favor of practical means]] of taking out the Blue Bomber, which leads to the unbeatable game ''Mega Man: Wily Does It Himself''.
30th May '16 7:58:36 AM HighCrate
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* The Red Skull, in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'', shows quite a bit of this before he (literally) picks up the VillainBall (or, [[{{Pun}} shall we say]], the [[CosmicKeystone Villain Cube]]?) at the last moment. He expected his former Nazi superiors to call him on his plans, and eliminates them before they can report. He anticipates Erskine's attempt to replicate the Super Serum, and dispatches an assassin that's mostly successful in thwarting the Super Soldier research, leaving time for HYDRA to grow without Captain America's direct military counterattacks to Skull's resources for months. When Captain America first invades one of his many headquarters, he recognizes the threat instantly and immediately arms all the installation's self-destruct devices. He also realizes the usefulness of Dr. Zola by giving him the keys to his personal car, allowing Zola to escape so as to continue their weapons development--but also having the scientist preserve his CoolCar. This backfires when the heroes use Skull's precious vehicle [[spoiler:to catapult Captain America onto Skull's superbomber to thwart his final plans]].
** By having many installations for Cap's team to take down, the Skull's plans almost work, buying him enough time to build his DoomsdayDevice. The final base appeared to be ''thoroughly prepared'' for (or even expecting) any small-team heroics that [[spoiler:doomed Hydra's sister bases]], but unfortunately for them [[spoiler:a BigDamnHeroes moment where all of Cap's forces invade at once]] throws off the defenses faster than he anticipated. And while he didn't [[EvilOverlordList try to waste time in letting Cap hang around]], opting to immediately shoot Cap seconds after he is brought before the Skull, he is interrupted by said BigDamnHeroes moment.
* In ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', when Hawkeye fires an arrow at Loki, [[spoiler: he catches it in mid-air and smirks in Hawkeye's direction, having foiled the assassination attempt. The arrow then explodes, Hawkeye having figured Loki would catch it. You can also see what may have been Loki checking the arrow to see if it was an explosive one. Which is why it's an explosive one that he's never seen before, with a backup timer just in case he caught it]].
** The World Security Council [[spoiler: had two F-35s with nukes rather than just one, so when the first one goes down by Fury, the second one took off seconds later]].
* In ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'', [[spoiler: Zola]] exploits and invokes EvilGloating and TalkingIsAFreeAction in order to [[spoiler: stall Steve and Natasha so a missile could kill them]].
** The bad guys' whole EvilPlan could be considered one. [[spoiler:Their objective with the orbiting Helicarriers with the capacity to snipe anyone anywhere on the planet is to kill off potential heroes before they can become threats. Even if the target appears to be someone harmless like a high school student or reporter or surgeon, as they've learned from Steve Rogers that even the weakest feeblest person can turn into their worst enemy.]]
** The villains' attempt to capture Captain America makes sure all the odds are against him. They attack him in a cramped elevator, filled with a dozen {{Mooks}} disguised to look like random SHIELD agents, lock a supermagnet on Cap's arm so that he can't use his shield and gets his arm stuck to the wall, then swarm him all at once in hopes of overwhelming his great strength. When that doesn't work, they opt for just killing him with all the firepower they can muster.
** Following the use of said firepower, they do NOT fall for "NoOneCouldSurviveThat", sending a team of fully armed men, backed by military fliers, to make sure that the Cap is dead. As soon as they realize he is alive, they immediately call HQ and tell them to send the Winter Soldier after him. When sending the Winter Soldier after him, even though he's the one person who can take on Cap in single combat, he still arrives with extra men and serious firepower backing him up, including a guy packing a freaking [[GatlingGood minigun]].
* ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' has Helmut Zemo who studied and analyzed the Avengers and plays them like a fiddle. He is also a rare breed of Genre Savvy villain who understands his own limitations and flaws and compensates for them.
** Knowing that he lacks the resources and skill [[spoiler: to track down [[TheGhost the Winter Soldier]], he frames him for a terrorist attack. This results in a massive manhunt and Bucky getting arrested which allows Zemo to find him and get in to speak with him]]
** Also seeing that no villain has ever directly defeated the Avengers, he [[spoiler: instead sows discord so that they tear each other apart]]
** Zemo is so dangerous and effective [[spoiler: he's the ONLY MCU villain [[TheBadGuyWins to accomplish his goals.]] He tears the entire group apart, disgraced and forced many of them on the run and placed the rest under heavy supervision.]]
* The Agents in ''Film/TheMatrix'' generally shoot first and don't bother asking questions at all. They're proficient in hand-to-hand combat as well but don't resort to that until their guns are empty. Agent Smith in particular shows a healthy respect for the protagonists; in the beginning he tells the overconfident police captain that the men sent after Trinity "are already dead", and later he [[spoiler: fires several shots [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim point-blank into Neo's chest]]]] when he has the opportunity.
28th May '16 9:43:17 PM JustCause
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** Zemo is so dangerous and effective [[spoiler: he's the only MCU villain to accomplish his goals. He tears the entire group apart, disgraced and forced many of them on the run and placed the rest under heavy supervision.]]

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** Zemo is so dangerous and effective [[spoiler: he's the only ONLY MCU villain [[TheBadGuyWins to accomplish his goals. goals.]] He tears the entire group apart, disgraced and forced many of them on the run and placed the rest under heavy supervision.]]
28th May '16 9:40:10 PM JustCause
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*''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' has Helmut Zemo who studied and analyzed the Avengers and plays them like a fiddle. He is also a rare breed of Genre Savvy villain who understands his own limitations and flaws and compensates for them.
** Knowing that he lacks the resources and skill [[spoiler: to track down [[TheGhost the Winter Soldier]], he frames him for a terrorist attack. This results in a massive manhunt and Bucky getting arrested which allows Zemo to find him and get in to speak with him]]
** Also seeing that no villain has ever directly defeated the Avengers, he [[spoiler: instead sows discord so that they tear each other apart]]
** Zemo is so dangerous and effective [[spoiler: he's the only MCU villain to accomplish his goals. He tears the entire group apart, disgraced and forced many of them on the run and placed the rest under heavy supervision.]]
24th Apr '16 3:08:06 PM HighCrate
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* In the ''Literature/BookOfGenesis'', Lot's daughters [[ButLiquorIsQuicker get him drunk]] [[ParentalIncest and]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale then rape him]]. They do this so that they can become pregnant, because they (erroneously) believed themselves to be the only people alive AfterTheEnd of their DoomedHometown (which was their whole world up until that point), they felt [[MandatoryMotherhood compelled to have children]] for future security, and their fiances had been killed [[TooDumbToLive because]] [[CassandraTruth they didn't believe Lot]] when he told them that God was planning to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. They used alcohol to ply their father, because although they viewed sex with him as NecessarilyEvil, they knew there was no way he'd go for it sober. (Some also think it was also motivated by a desire for retribution for offering them to be raped by the men of their town.)
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23rd Apr '16 8:15:17 PM MsChibi
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* In the ''Literature/BookOfGenesis'', Lot's daughters [[ButLiquorIsQuicker get him drunk]] [[ParentalIncest and]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale then rape him]]. They do this so that they can become pregnant, because they (erroneously) believed themselves to be the only people alive AfterTheEnd of their DoomedHometown (which was their whole world up until that point), they felt compelled to have children for future security, and their fiances had been killed [[TooDumbToLive because]] [[CassandraTruth they didn't believe Lot]] when he told them that God was planning to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. They used alcohol to ply their father, because although they viewed sex with him as NecessarilyEvil, they knew there was no way he'd go for it sober. (Some also think it was also motivated by a desire for retribution for offering them to be raped by the men of their town.)

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* In the ''Literature/BookOfGenesis'', Lot's daughters [[ButLiquorIsQuicker get him drunk]] [[ParentalIncest and]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale then rape him]]. They do this so that they can become pregnant, because they (erroneously) believed themselves to be the only people alive AfterTheEnd of their DoomedHometown (which was their whole world up until that point), they felt [[MandatoryMotherhood compelled to have children children]] for future security, and their fiances had been killed [[TooDumbToLive because]] [[CassandraTruth they didn't believe Lot]] when he told them that God was planning to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. They used alcohol to ply their father, because although they viewed sex with him as NecessarilyEvil, they knew there was no way he'd go for it sober. (Some also think it was also motivated by a desire for retribution for offering them to be raped by the men of their town.)
23rd Apr '16 8:13:29 PM MsChibi
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* In the ''Literature/BookOfGenesis'', Lot's daughters [[ButLiquorIsQuicker get him drunk]] [[ParentalIncest and]] [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale then rape him]]. They do this so that they can become pregnant, because they (erroneously) believed themselves to be the only people alive AfterTheEnd of their DoomedHometown (which was their whole world up until that point), they felt compelled to have children for future security, and their fiances had been killed [[TooDumbToLive because]] [[CassandraTruth they didn't believe Lot]] when he told them that God was planning to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. They used alcohol to ply their father, because although they viewed sex with him as NecessarilyEvil, they knew there was no way he'd go for it sober. (Some also think it was also motivated by a desire for retribution for offering them to be raped by the men of their town.)
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22nd Apr '16 8:27:09 PM merotoker
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But this time, the person has an attack of RealLife common sense. No need to waste your breath asking WhyDontYouJustShootHim -- [[JustShootHim they do]]!

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But this time, the person has an attack of RealLife common sense. No need to waste your breath asking WhyDontYouJustShootHim -- [[JustShootHim [[CombatPragmatist they do]]!



* One ''Webcomic/{{Nodwick}}'' strip involves the title character [[http://comic.nodwick.com/?p=494 attempting a plea-bargain]] with a Dangerously Genre Savvy EvilOverlord over the fact that she had conquered them "without rumors, signs and portents or escaped prisoners" as forewarning for them to find and stop her beforehand.

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* One ''Webcomic/{{Nodwick}}'' ''ComicStrip/{{Nodwick}}'' strip involves the title character [[http://comic.nodwick.com/?p=494 attempting a plea-bargain]] with a Dangerously Genre Savvy EvilOverlord over the fact that she had conquered them "without rumors, signs and portents or escaped prisoners" as forewarning for them to find and stop her beforehand.



** [[AiIsACrapshoot Crazy AI Two]] is this in spades: before revealing himself for the first time he manipulates TheHero in shutting down One (AKA the only entity on Earth able to stop him). In his third appearance he manipulates his way into gaining control of the Evronian invasion force, but is prevident enough to build himself an escape starship in case his attack failed. His last appearance shows that he programmed his auditory sensors to not hear his creator's vocal password, something that would delete him.

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** [[AiIsACrapshoot Crazy AI Two]] is this in spades: before revealing himself for the first time he manipulates TheHero in shutting down One (AKA the only entity on Earth able to stop him). In his third appearance he manipulates his way into gaining control of the Evronian invasion force, but is prevident provident enough to build himself an escape starship in case his attack failed. His last appearance shows that he programmed his auditory sensors to not hear his creator's vocal password, something that would delete him.



** The Evronians: they have a formidable military, but if there's a ''minimal'' chance that a target may resist they will first infiltrate and sabotage the defences from the inside (Xerba would have never fallen had one of their infiltrators not managed to get the government to both sign a trading agreement and ''temporarily shut down the orbital defences''); they need to invade other planets because they're EmotionEaters and [[PoweredByAForsakenChild even parts of their technology are fueled by emotional energy]], so they keep around breeding stocks of their victims ''and'' are at the constant search of a sufficiently powerful and enduring energy source to power their technology; when Two infiltrated their invasion force the local commander ''noticed him immediately'' but decided to let him do his trick knowing that he would help him dealing with Paperinik, limiting himself to create a program to erase him and ''sabotage Two's escape ship''; and they pick a fight with [[PhysicalGoddess Xadhoom]] (opposite to desperately trying to kill her whenever she finds them) only when they've come up with a possible way to stop her - and use her as the energy source mentioned above.
* {{ComicBook/Darkseid}} managed this in [[ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman The Return of Bruce Wayne]]. Batman has been hurled back to prehistoric times, and has amnesia to boot. Nevertheless, the readers all know Bruce will still make it home somehow, because he's Batman. As it turns out, that inevitability is exactly what Darkseid was counting on - he'd turned Batman into a bomb, so that when he made it back to his own time, all existence would be destroyed.

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** The Evronians: they have a formidable military, but if there's a ''minimal'' chance that a target may resist they will first infiltrate and sabotage the defences from the inside (Xerba would have never fallen had one of their infiltrators not managed to get the government to both sign a trading agreement and ''temporarily shut down the orbital defences''); they need to invade other planets because they're EmotionEaters {{Emotion Eater}}s and [[PoweredByAForsakenChild even parts of their technology are fueled by emotional energy]], so they keep around breeding stocks of their victims ''and'' are at the constant search of a sufficiently powerful and enduring energy source to power their technology; when Two infiltrated their invasion force the local commander ''noticed him immediately'' but decided to let him do his trick knowing that he would help him dealing with Paperinik, limiting himself to create a program to erase him and ''sabotage Two's escape ship''; and they pick a fight with [[PhysicalGoddess Xadhoom]] (opposite to desperately trying to kill her whenever she finds them) only when they've come up with a possible way to stop her - and use her as the energy source mentioned above.
* {{ComicBook/Darkseid}} managed this in [[ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman ''[[ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman The Return of Bruce Wayne]].Wayne]]''. Batman has been hurled back to prehistoric times, and has amnesia to boot. Nevertheless, the readers all know Bruce will still make it home somehow, because he's Batman. As it turns out, that inevitability is exactly what Darkseid was counting on - he'd turned Batman into a bomb, so that when he made it back to his own time, all existence would be destroyed.



** The copycat above ''thought'' he was this, as he expected Diabolik to track him down and had prepared an apparently unexcapable trap for him. When Diabolik came the copycat trapped him, gloated he had won and was about to call the police on him before taking over the name of Diabolik for good... And ''then'' Diabolik replied he had forgot about Eva Kant, who was behind him.

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** The copycat above ''thought'' he was this, as he expected Diabolik to track him down and had prepared an apparently unexcapable inescapable trap for him. When Diabolik came the copycat trapped him, gloated he had won and was about to call the police on him before taking over the name of Diabolik for good... And ''then'' Diabolik replied he had forgot about Eva Kant, who was behind him.



-->Especially Wolfie, who is essentially omnipotent due to the fact that he uses his laptop to edit the story he's a charater in.

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-->Especially Wolfie, who is essentially omnipotent due to the fact that he uses his laptop to edit the story he's a charater character in.



* ''Film/PacificRim'': After several years of being curbstomed by [[HumongousMecha Jaegers]] over and over, the {{Kaiju}} adapt to their tactics enough to cripple the Jaeger Program and whittle down the available pilots and mechas.

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* ''Film/PacificRim'': After several years of being curbstomed curbstomped by [[HumongousMecha Jaegers]] over and over, the {{Kaiju}} adapt to their tactics enough to cripple the Jaeger Program and whittle down the available pilots and mechas.



* Megan, the little girl kidnapped in the AlexCross movie ''Along Came a Spider'' is immediately suspicious when only one person ([[spoiler: the DirtyCop Flanningan]]) has come to 'rescue' her, asking "where's the other guy?", and is not at all moved by the fact that the person trying to persuade her to come out is [[spoiler: {{female|sAreMoreInnocent}}]]. She buys herself precious time by being suspicious and running away.

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* Megan, the little girl kidnapped in the AlexCross Film/AlexCross movie ''Along Came a Spider'' is immediately suspicious when only one person ([[spoiler: the DirtyCop Flanningan]]) has come to 'rescue' her, asking "where's the other guy?", and is not at all moved by the fact that the person trying to persuade her to come out is [[spoiler: {{female|sAreMoreInnocent}}]]. She buys herself precious time by being suspicious and running away.



** In ''Series/PowerRangersZeo'', Prince Sprocket caught onto the pattern that when a monster grows, it ends up being destroyed by the Rangers and their Zords, so he uses it as a UriahGambit to get rid of Gasket and Archarina. However, despite losing the battle, the two somehow survived in an example of SparedByAdaptation as their Franchise/SuperSentai counterparts were destroyed after growing.

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** In ''Series/PowerRangersZeo'', Prince Sprocket caught onto the pattern that when a monster grows, it ends up being destroyed by the Rangers and their Zords, so he uses it as a UriahGambit to get rid of Gasket and Archarina. However, despite losing the battle, the two somehow survived in an example of SparedByAdaptation SparedByTheAdaptation as their Franchise/SuperSentai counterparts were destroyed after growing.



* {{Lampshaded}} in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48r4IQTB3NE this]] Creator/TheWeatherChannel commercial, when Jim Cantore, notable for showing up where big storms are going to happen, [[BusmansHoliday goes to the beach for a vacation]], ''everyone'' starts running for the hills, with one shopper filling his cart with bread and making a run for it and a dog barking at him as if saying "please, go away".

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* {{Lampshaded}} {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48r4IQTB3NE this]] Creator/TheWeatherChannel commercial, commercial for Creator/TheWeatherChannel, when Jim Cantore, notable for showing up where big storms are going to happen, [[BusmansHoliday goes to the beach for a vacation]], ''everyone'' starts running for the hills, with one shopper filling his cart with bread and making a run for it and a dog barking at him as if saying "please, go away".



** And then you have Wrestling/JohnMorrison doing [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v6A2x01yu4 this]].

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** And then you have Wrestling/JohnMorrison doing [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v6A2x01yu4 com/watch?v=CpdKkaw0XpY this]].



* ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfDrMcNinja'' has 80s action movie star Frans Rayner, who invented all ninja movie tropes since they were based on his true story. However, he doesn't quite get it until [[spoiler:he comes back in the ''Army of One'' story, and invokes the ConservationOfNinjutsu by cloning the Doctor for a one-on-one-hundred fight.]]
** Doc realized what Frans was doing, and [[spoiler:switched sides, thus dividing the ninjutsu between them ''again.'']]

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* ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfDrMcNinja'' has 80s action movie star Frans Rayner, who invented all ninja movie tropes since they were based on his true story. However, he doesn't quite get it until [[spoiler:he comes back in the ''Army of One'' story, and invokes the ConservationOfNinjutsu by cloning the Doctor for a one-on-one-hundred fight.]]
fight]].
** Doc realized what Frans was doing, and [[spoiler:switched sides, thus dividing the ninjutsu between them ''again.'']]''again'']].



---> '''Tarvek:''' You know, perhaps we should have discussed this.

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---> --> '''Tarvek:''' You know, perhaps we should have discussed this.



** Colonel Glass provides a textbook example [[http://www.spinnyverse.com/index.php?id=521 here]], complete with a ''ShoutOut'' to this very site. The ''SlasherSmile'' is just the icing on the cake.

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** Colonel Glass provides a textbook example [[http://www.spinnyverse.com/index.php?id=521 here]], complete with a ''ShoutOut'' to this very site. The ''SlasherSmile'' SlasherSmile is just the icing on the cake.
13th Apr '16 8:07:18 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** While a lot of the bigger and more series enemies can qualify, such as Adam planning to use the Initiative's WrongGenreSavvy tactics against them to make an army of demon/human/cyborg creatures like him, [[BiggerBad The First]] takes the cake. Once it realises the order of the universe has been unbalanced by Willow it sets out to murder all the potential slayers, knowing that killing Buffy or Faith will just make another who might be even more of a pain in the ass. It makes a single swift move to kill the Council of Watchers before they can even make a move and hunts down any allies or survivors, with Giles and Wesley being the only known survivors. While Buffy and her friends are still unaware of its involvement it tries to talk Willow (arguably the strongest threat it faces) and Dawn into committing suicide by pretending to be their loved ones, both so that they are no longer a threat and to make Buffy unstable. Even once it's been found out it still continues to spread discord and fear by impersonating people that they don't know are dead. THEN it takes the already unstable Spike and turns him into a sleeper agent while using him to let out possibly the single most dangerous creature seen and siccing it on the vulnerable potentials first to make them nervous and liable to leave Buffy so they become easy targets. The only reason The First fails is because [[TheDragon Caleb]] spends so much time trying to get his hands on a weapon only a slayer can use, which is used against them.

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** While a lot of the bigger and more series enemies can qualify, such as Adam planning to use the Initiative's WrongGenreSavvy tactics against them to make an army of demon/human/cyborg creatures like him, [[BiggerBad The First]] First takes the cake. Once it realises the order of the universe has been unbalanced by Willow it sets out to murder all the potential slayers, knowing that killing Buffy or Faith will just make another who might be even more of a pain in the ass. It makes a single swift move to kill the Council of Watchers before they can even make a move and hunts down any allies or survivors, with Giles and Wesley being the only known survivors. While Buffy and her friends are still unaware of its involvement it tries to talk Willow (arguably the strongest threat it faces) and Dawn into committing suicide by pretending to be their loved ones, both so that they are no longer a threat and to make Buffy unstable. Even once it's been found out it still continues to spread discord and fear by impersonating people that they don't know are dead. THEN it takes the already unstable Spike and turns him into a sleeper agent while using him to let out possibly the single most dangerous creature seen and siccing it on the vulnerable potentials first to make them nervous and liable to leave Buffy so they become easy targets. The only reason The First fails is because [[TheDragon Caleb]] spends so much time trying to get his hands on a weapon only a slayer can use, which is used against them.
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