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2nd May '16 3:14:21 PM Psyclone
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** Temple Fugate lost everything in appeal for twenty million dollars against his company seven years ago. When he appears at the episode "The Clock King", he has enough money to [[OffscreenVillainDarkMatter buy bombs, an Abandoned Warehouse Supervillain Lair at his name, and can throw off a clock valued at $600,000]]. Justified because he never suffers MotiveDecay; all he wants is to humiliate Mayor Hill, and then kill him. Money no longer matters to him, only revenge. Notice that after he is arrested, he uses his talents for the government as a BoxedCrook.

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** Temple Fugate lost everything in appeal for twenty million dollars against his company seven years ago. When he appears at the episode "The Clock King", he has enough money to [[OffscreenVillainDarkMatter buy bombs, an Abandoned Warehouse Supervillain Lair at his name, and can throw off a clock valued at $600,000]].$6,000]]. Justified because he never suffers MotiveDecay; all he wants is to humiliate Mayor Hill, and then kill him. Money no longer matters to him, only revenge. Notice that after he is arrested, he uses his talents for the government as a BoxedCrook.
1st May '16 6:05:00 AM Hanz
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* This is a major plotpoint in ''WithThisRing''. Orange Lantern both works to support this and avert ReedRichardsIsUseless. The reason for this trope is also pointed out - most villains dont have the social skills or the brains to make legal money off their powers, most of them can only think of using them as a club. Of the ones who have both the smarts and the people skills, usually the various mad scientists and variations thereof such as Leonard Snarl (Captain Cold), most of those guys are usually legitimatly insane or mentally ill and dont care or want legal work. Snarl is brought up as a specific example, he has severe paranoia and psychosis due to his abusive father and isnt capable of functioning in a civilian setting. The Terror Twins are the other example, they didnt know any way to use their power other than to steal, until Orange Lantern points out that they are perfect for specialized heavy labor.

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* This is a major plotpoint in ''WithThisRing''.''Fanfic/WithThisRing''. Orange Lantern both works to support this and avert ReedRichardsIsUseless. The reason for this trope is also pointed out - most villains dont have the social skills or the brains to make legal money off their powers, most of them can only think of using them as a club. Of the ones who have both the smarts and the people skills, usually the various mad scientists and variations thereof such as Leonard Snarl (Captain Cold), most of those guys are usually legitimatly insane or mentally ill and dont care or want legal work. Snarl is brought up as a specific example, he has severe paranoia and psychosis due to his abusive father and isnt capable of functioning in a civilian setting. The Terror Twins are the other example, they didnt know any way to use their power other than to steal, until Orange Lantern points out that they are perfect for specialized heavy labor.
28th Apr '16 11:58:32 PM jormis29
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* Also deconstructed in ''Webcomic/GrrlPower'', in [[http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1904 this strip]]: "I just wanted to include this page to show an example of a super using his powers intelligently. He does present a potential threat, but heís not breaking any laws. Itís one of those ďwatch this guy closer than the strong guy making his living in construction, but otherwise live and let liveĒ supers. He could try to threaten cities on fault lines and ransom them for millions with is geokinesis, but heís not living in a silver age comic book, so why would he? It is something that bothers me about a lot of supervillains. So many of them have powers, or their whole shtick is predicated on a gadget they made that with the tiniest application of intelligence could make them millionaires in the private sector. The Trapster made incredibly strong yet easily sprayable adhesive. The Green Goblin made something the size of an opened pizza box that not only can fly, it can carry the weight of at least two humans plus equipment, and based on some of the fights heís had with Spider-Man, itís not exactly short range either. Yes, the usual excuse is that most bad guys are a little bit crazy, but then consider this. The first time Spidey beats the Goblin, thereís this flying thing just sitting there. Itís not like the crazy bad guy filed a patent for it. Ok, maybe the first version before he went crazy, but Goblinís been around for a while, and heís probably upgraded the flyer, and post crazy, heís probably not keeping up with the patent process. Somebody would take that thing apart, file their own patents, and boom. Delivery drones, extreme sports gliders, hoverboards, military hovering sniper platforms, whatever. Someone would do something constructive with it. Thatís why Iím careful not to throw a lot of gadgeteers into the world, because it would cause an irreversible tech spiral, and the comic world would diverge dramatically from our own.
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* Also deconstructed in ''Webcomic/GrrlPower'', in [[http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1904 this strip]]: "I strip]]:
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just wanted to include this page to show an example of a super using his powers intelligently. He does present a potential threat, but heís not breaking any laws. Itís one of those ďwatch this guy closer than the strong guy making his living in construction, but otherwise live and let liveĒ supers. He could try to threaten cities on fault lines and ransom them for millions with is geokinesis, but heís not living in a silver age comic book, so why would he? It is something that bothers me about a lot of supervillains. So many of them have powers, or their whole shtick is predicated on a gadget they made that with the tiniest application of intelligence could make them millionaires in the private sector. The Trapster made incredibly strong yet easily sprayable adhesive. The Green Goblin made something the size of an opened pizza box that not only can fly, it can carry the weight of at least two humans plus equipment, and based on some of the fights heís had with Spider-Man, itís not exactly short range either. Yes, the usual excuse is that most bad guys are a little bit crazy, but then consider this. The first time Spidey beats the Goblin, thereís this flying thing just sitting there. Itís not like the crazy bad guy filed a patent for it. Ok, maybe the first version before he went crazy, but Goblinís been around for a while, and heís probably upgraded the flyer, and post crazy, heís probably not keeping up with the patent process. Somebody would take that thing apart, file their own patents, and boom. Delivery drones, extreme sports gliders, hoverboards, military hovering sniper platforms, whatever. Someone would do something constructive with it. Thatís why Iím careful not to throw a lot of gadgeteers into the world, because it would cause an irreversible tech spiral, and the comic world would diverge dramatically from our own.
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28th Apr '16 9:57:26 AM Whitewings
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* ComicBook/TeenTitans had in one Christmas story a villain who took in shipments of junk, then used a ray to turn it into new, high-quality goods. Huge profit potential, right? Except he was actually removing a disguise field on the items, one put in place at least a full day before. The military and espionage applications for the disguise field and its counter, and thus the potential for vast profits, should be fairly obvious. He and his partners used it as a way of evading tariffs and duties on high-end goods.
19th Apr '16 6:19:19 PM Hanz
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* In the ending of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', [[spoiler:Old Man [=McGucket=]]] ends up becoming incredibly wealthy upon [[spoiler:regaining his sanity and patenting all of his inventions.]]

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* In Subverted in the ending of ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'', where [[spoiler:Old Man [=McGucket=]]] ends up becoming incredibly wealthy upon [[spoiler:regaining his sanity and patenting all of his inventions.]]
18th Apr '16 6:22:19 AM LogicMeister
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* Also deconstructed in ''Webcomic/GrrlPower'', in [[http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1904 this strip]]: "I just wanted to include this page to show an example of a super using his powers intelligently. He does present a potential threat, but heís not breaking any laws. Itís one of those ďwatch this guy closer than the strong guy making his living in construction, but otherwise live and let liveĒ supers. He could try to threaten cities on fault lines and ransom them for millions with is geokinesis, but heís not living in a silver age comic book, so why would he? It is something that bothers me about a lot of supervillains. So many of them have powers, or their whole shtick is predicated on a gadget they made that with the tiniest application of intelligence could make them millionaires in the private sector. The Trapster made incredibly strong yet easily sprayable adhesive. The Green Goblin made something the size of an opened pizza box that not only can fly, it can carry the weight of at least two humans plus equipment, and based on some of the fights heís had with Spider-Man, itís not exactly short range either. Yes, the usual excuse is that most bad guys are a little bit crazy, but then consider this. The first time Spidey beats the Goblin, thereís this flying thing just sitting there. Itís not like the crazy bad guy filed a patent for it. Ok, maybe the first version before he went crazy, but Goblinís been around for a while, and heís probably upgraded the flyer, and post crazy, heís probably not keeping up with the patent process. Somebody would take that thing apart, file their own patents, and boom. Delivery drones, extreme sports gliders, hoverboards, military hovering sniper platforms, whatever. Someone would do something constructive with it. Thatís why Iím careful not to throw a lot of gadgeteers into the world, because it would cause an irreversible tech spiral, and the comic world would diverge dramatically from our own.
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8th Apr '16 3:29:45 PM qwigly
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[[folder:Films - Animation]]
* Subverted with [[WickedStepmother Lady Tremaine]] from Disney/{{Cinderella}}. She doesn't see that presenting three girls eligible for marriage to the [[PrinceCharming prince]] would be more sensible than merely presenting two, Gold Digger as she is, especially when as Cinderella and the Duke point out, all the eligible girls in the Kingdom were ordered to attend.
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7th Apr '16 3:00:35 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* ''Series/BreakingBad'': Walt could have swallowed his pride and accepted his old friend's handout to save his family, but Walt insists on building his nest egg himself through illegal drug manufacture.
* ''Series/BetterCallSaul'': Jimmy could have stayed the course in his lucrative partner track at a legitimate law firm, but he's too set in his ways and quits to indulge his morally questionable legal tactics as an independent practitioner.
7th Apr '16 2:56:47 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* By Season 3 of ''Series/TheWire'', Stringer's insistence on running the front companies like proper businesses means the Barksdale crew is making enough money legitimately the drugs trade has become a sideshow. Avon's insistence on fighting a street war against rival dealers for the sake of his reputation just brings unwelcome attention from the police. [[spoiler: Eventually, Stringer becomes a police informant, and Avon betrays Stringer to Omar. All the Barksdale businesses both legitimate and criminal then effectively collapse.]]

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* By Season 3 of ''Series/TheWire'', Stringer's insistence on running the front companies like proper businesses means the Barksdale crew is making enough money legitimately the drugs trade ''Series/TheWire'' has become this come up as a sideshow. Avon's insistence on fighting a street war against rival dealers for the sake of his reputation just brings unwelcome attention from the police. [[spoiler: Eventually, conflict between Stringer becomes a police informant, and Avon betrays Avon. Stringer to Omar. All sees the Barksdale businesses both end goal of their drug enterprise as turning legitimate and criminal then effectively collapse.]]living comfortably on risk-free profits, but Avon only wants power and respect in the streets. While Avon is serving time, Stringer makes a valiant attempt by running the drug empire's front businesses as real businesses and investing his dirty money in a legitimate real estate venture.
7th Apr '16 2:46:44 PM CaptainCrawdad
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Consider, for a moment, the {{Trope Namer|s}}: ComicBook/LexLuthor. His earliest incarnations were generally focused on using his MadScientist inventions for the sort of schemes typical in UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks and UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks, with the goals of pure monetary gain, "[[TakeOverTheWorld ruling the world]]", or eliminating Franchise/{{Superman}} as an obstacle ''to'' monetary gain and ruling the world... The question is then raised as to why he just doesn't sell his amazing inventions legally. [[note]] (In Luthor's defense, there is, his origin story where he ''tried'' to do this after the accident where Superboy caused him to lose his hair, and doing so caused accidents that almost destroyed Smallville... twice. Combined with the earlier accident and the fact that Superboy had to save the town from both accidents, he thought that Superboy had sabotaged his projects and caused them, which further augmented the feud between them.) [[/note]]

In the ComicBook/PostCrisis world, authors John Byrne and Marv Wolfman decided to finally cut Lex Luthor a check and recreated him as a CorruptCorporateExecutive, already a multi-billionaire captain of industry before even meeting Supes. Now, having far more cash than a man could ever spend in one lifetime, Luthor's only want is ''power'', and while he certainly has a great deal of it already, ''he wants more''... and Superman, he feels, is standing in his way. He is still a ruthless criminal mastermind, but it's established that he became a billionaire specifically through marketing his brilliant inventions legally. This Lex is a far cry from a purely MadScientist, and he thus avoids the trope.
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