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25th Mar '17 11:01:39 PM Wuz
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But even without ideology-based censorship and ExecutiveMeddling, there is an increasingly strong awareness and resentment of Chinese works' appeal to the LowestCommonDenominator. Movies that run on gaudy idol marketing with poor story and acting reap the box office for weeks straight, cashgrab games manufactured upon pay-to-play and win mechanics gain loads from willing players, TV shows that recycle cliched scripts or rip off other works without any input of its own dominate the cables. This ''pandemonium'' of capital-directed media runs itself endlessly, earning tons of money that give producers incentive to produce ''more'' of the low-quality work, flooding China with works that run on ViewersAreMorons. With China's massive population, appealing to the Lowest Common Denominator is a very reliable way to earn heaps of money with minimal effort, and with China's continued struggle with raising the standards of the entire nation, the Lowest Common Denominator can get very low indeed. As if that's not enough, the huge success of JapaneseMedia internationally and the regional success of KoreanMedia (the Korean Wave) are frequently cited to contrast with the failures of Mainland Chinese media. And it's just Mainland Chinese - Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan media are excluded from the cringe, and further cringe arises if one insists that they're the same being as Mainland Chinese media.

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But even without ideology-based censorship and ExecutiveMeddling, there is an increasingly strong awareness and resentment of Chinese works' appeal to the LowestCommonDenominator. Movies that run on gaudy idol marketing with poor story and acting reap the box office for weeks straight, cashgrab games manufactured upon pay-to-play and win mechanics gain loads from willing players, TV shows that recycle cliched scripts or rip off other works without any input of its own dominate the cables. This ''pandemonium'' of capital-directed media runs itself endlessly, earning tons of money that give producers incentive to produce ''more'' of the low-quality work, flooding China with works that run on ViewersAreMorons. With China's massive population, appealing to the Lowest Common Denominator is a very reliable way to earn heaps of money with minimal effort, and with China's continued struggle with raising the standards of the entire nation, the Lowest Common Denominator can get very low indeed. As if that's not enough, the huge success of JapaneseMedia internationally and the regional success of KoreanMedia (the Korean Wave) are frequently cited to contrast with the failures of Mainland Chinese media. And it's just Mainland Chinese - Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan media are excluded from the cringe, and further cringe arises if one insists that they're the same being as Mainland Chinese media.
25th Mar '17 11:00:46 PM Wuz
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But even without ideology-based censorship and ExecutiveMeddling, there is an increasingly strong awareness and resentment of Chinese works' appeal to the LowestCommonDenominator. Movies that run on gaudy idol marketing with poor story and acting reap the box office for weeks straight, cashgrab games manufactured upon pay-to-play and win mechanics gain loads from willing players, TV shows that recycle cliched scripts or rip off other works without any input of its own dominate the cables. This ''pandemonium'' of capital-directed media runs itself endlessly, earning tons of money that give producers incentive to produce ''more'' of the low-quality work, flooding China with works that run on ViewersAreMorons. With China's massive population, appealing to the Lowest Common Denominator is a very reliable way to earn heaps of money with minimal effort, and with China's continued struggle with raising the standards of the entire nation, the Lowest Common Denominator can get very low indeed.

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But even without ideology-based censorship and ExecutiveMeddling, there is an increasingly strong awareness and resentment of Chinese works' appeal to the LowestCommonDenominator. Movies that run on gaudy idol marketing with poor story and acting reap the box office for weeks straight, cashgrab games manufactured upon pay-to-play and win mechanics gain loads from willing players, TV shows that recycle cliched scripts or rip off other works without any input of its own dominate the cables. This ''pandemonium'' of capital-directed media runs itself endlessly, earning tons of money that give producers incentive to produce ''more'' of the low-quality work, flooding China with works that run on ViewersAreMorons. With China's massive population, appealing to the Lowest Common Denominator is a very reliable way to earn heaps of money with minimal effort, and with China's continued struggle with raising the standards of the entire nation, the Lowest Common Denominator can get very low indeed. \n As if that's not enough, the huge success of JapaneseMedia internationally and the regional success of KoreanMedia (the Korean Wave) are frequently cited to contrast with the failures of Mainland Chinese media. And it's just Mainland Chinese - Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan media are excluded from the cringe, and further cringe arises if one insists that they're the same being as Mainland Chinese media.
23rd Mar '17 6:52:28 PM Fireblood
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* ''Series/Sense8'': Mahendra hates Indian food, almost gets assassinated due to his efforts to ban Hindu ceremonial rites, and is never seen wearing traditional Indian garments. One of the Hindus who later has a hand in his assassination attempt earlier said he wants India to be like America.
23rd Mar '17 6:45:15 PM Fireblood
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* ''Series/TheAmericans'': Philip and Elizabeth cozy up to a Soviet defector in the fifth season who almost constantly lambasts the USSR in favor of the US. This annoys not only them (privately) but also his wife, who didn't want to defect.
23rd Mar '17 2:15:54 PM Sharysa
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In a severe case of DramaticIrony, the indigenous presence in the Filipino''-American'' community is gaining a lot of steam--much to the confusion of island-born Filipinos, the American diaspora in the West Coast have revived indigenous traditions and pre-Catholic beliefs such as traditional tattooing and polytheistic religions. (In fact, a good portion of indigenous Filipinos may have left for America ''because'' of the social hostility faced in the islands, and didn't have to revive anything.) The other Pacific Islander diasporas have a key role in this split, since so many South Pacific cultures have similar roots.

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In a severe case of DramaticIrony, the indigenous presence in the Filipino''-American'' community is gaining a lot of steam--much to the confusion of island-born Filipinos, the American diaspora in the West Coast have revived indigenous traditions and pre-Catholic beliefs such as traditional tattooing and polytheistic religions. (In fact, a good portion of indigenous Filipinos may have left for America ''because'' of the social hostility faced in the islands, and didn't have to revive anything.) The other Pacific Islander diasporas have a key role in this split, since so many South Pacific Islander cultures have similar roots.
19th Mar '17 4:29:03 AM Wuz
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It is also worthy to note that some Mainland netizens also have resentments towards the Mainland Communist Party Patriotic Fervor itself, connecting all the perceived problems described above to it and claiming that the Party's actions had caused all of this trouble. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement It is a hotly debated topic for sure, so no more details needed.]]
13th Mar '17 9:37:01 PM Fireblood
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In Brazil, the term for cultural cringe is "mongrel complex" (literally, "[[http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complexo_de_vira-lata complexo de vira-lata]]"), which characterized the Brazilian attitude when they lost the [[TheWorldCup 1950's World Cup]], but soon it started to characterize the attitude of Brazilians concerning their own country, to the point of many of them don't believe that Brazil has no reason to have self-esteem (likely one of the reasons why the TheCapitalOfBrazilIsBuenosAires trope exists).

There were attempts to avert this during the Military Dictatorship, between 1964-1985, such as with the famous motto "Brazil: love it or leave it". Ironically, many of the songs written critically by Brazilian artists during that time are seen with a lot of nostalgia nowadays by the previous generation, in contrast with the way younger people tend to despise Brazilian culture as dumb, cheap and unsophisticated, compared to foreign(specially American) mainstream culture. Even music, of which Brazilians are traditionally very proud of, has been drowned in the radios by American pop and rock music, and the most popular national music genre with the newer generation, called Sertanejo Universitário, is very commercial and in many aspects(notably, the often oversexualized lyrics) similar to American pop music.

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In Brazil, the term for cultural cringe is "mongrel complex" (literally, "[[http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complexo_de_vira-lata complexo de vira-lata]]"), which characterized the Brazilian attitude when they lost the [[TheWorldCup 1950's World Cup]], but soon it started to characterize the attitude of Brazilians concerning their own country, to the point of many of them don't believe that Brazil has no any reason to have self-esteem (likely one of the reasons why the TheCapitalOfBrazilIsBuenosAires trope exists).

There were attempts to avert this during the Military Dictatorship, between 1964-1985, such as with the famous motto "Brazil: love it or leave it". Ironically, many of the songs written critically by Brazilian artists during that time are seen with a lot of nostalgia nowadays by the previous generation, in contrast with the way younger people tend to despise Brazilian culture as dumb, cheap and unsophisticated, compared to foreign(specially foreign (especially American) mainstream culture. Even music, of which Brazilians are traditionally very proud of, has been drowned in the radios by American pop and rock music, and the most popular national music genre with the newer generation, called Sertanejo Universitário, is very commercial and in many aspects(notably, aspects (notably, the often oversexualized lyrics) similar to American pop music.
13th Mar '17 9:24:55 PM Fireblood
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Even though most Argentinians suffer from bad cases of egocentric nationalism, there are others that live on the opposite extreme, always feeling inferior and trying to compare the country with some European powers like Germany. The quantity of this individuals varies depending on the generation but they usually appear in times of economic crisis. Other variant are the Argentinians that are a-bi-too-pride of their European heritage and will deprecate their country (this is specially common among those of German and French ethnicity).
It should be noted that the ones most prone to this kind of behaviour are more often than not members of middle to high classes of the Argentinian population.

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Even though most Argentinians suffer from bad cases of egocentric nationalism, there are others that live on the opposite extreme, always feeling inferior and trying to compare the country with some European powers like Germany. The quantity of this individuals varies depending on the generation but they usually appear in times of economic crisis. Other Another variant are is the Argentinians that are a-bi-too-pride a-bit-too-pride of their European heritage and will deprecate their country (this is specially common among those of German and French ethnicity).
ethnicity). It should be noted that the ones most prone to this kind of behaviour behavior are more often than not members of the middle to high classes of the Argentinian population.upper classes.
8th Mar '17 1:37:17 PM ironballs16
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Right-wing Americans who buy into the cultural cringe, on the other hand, tend to take the tack that America is in a moral or spiritual decay brought on by the spread of godless hedonism through public education, declining religious affiliation, and [[TheNewRockAndRoll Hollywood / rock and roll / video games / the Internet]], or even the way that women and homosexuals and people of non-European ethnicity have been made full citizens with the same rights under the law as the country's male ethnic-European population--and damn that Obummer for letting in darkies to steal our jobs![[note]]Though on the bright side The Rapture is happening soon (on account of these being The End Times) so it's not actually necessary to send these people to hell since God will do it himself in short order. Anyhow, these two varieties of the Cringe have a nasty habit of giving each other plenty of 'grist for the mill' (or 'things to argue about'), as the Americans like to say.[[/note]] During the worst parts of the economic crisis, this became so prevalent that people on both sides of the political spectrum started to claim that the country was in [[http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/marchapril_2012/on_political_books/the_rise_of_the_ameropessimist035860.php irreversible decline]] and doomed to go The Way Of Rome (ignoring the thousand-year continuation of the Roman Empire in what we call 'The Byzantine Empire' and various other nations inheriting a bit of Rome's power, and so on). This has even gotten to the point that many, many Americans fear that their government would gradually erase their freedoms and create a totalitarian nightmare ([[UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies fascist, socialist, or any other strawman here]]) that would make [[CrapsackWorld Oceania]] of ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' look like the Boy Scouts.

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Right-wing Americans who buy into the cultural cringe, on the other hand, tend to take the tack that America is in a moral or spiritual decay brought on by the spread of godless hedonism through public education, declining religious affiliation, and [[TheNewRockAndRoll Hollywood / rock and roll / video games / the Internet]], or even the way that women and homosexuals and people of non-European ethnicity have been made full citizens with the same rights under the law as the country's male ethnic-European population--and damn that Obummer for letting in darkies to steal our jobs![[note]]Though on the bright side The Rapture is happening soon (on account of these being The End Times) so it's not actually necessary to send these people to hell since God will do it himself in short order. Anyhow, these two varieties of the Cringe have a nasty habit of giving each other plenty of 'grist for the mill' (or 'things to argue about'), as the Americans like to say.[[/note]] During the worst parts of the economic crisis, this became so prevalent that people on both sides of the political spectrum started to claim that the country was in [[http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/marchapril_2012/on_political_books/the_rise_of_the_ameropessimist035860.php irreversible decline]] and doomed to go The Way Of Rome (ignoring the thousand-year continuation of the Roman Empire in what we call 'The Byzantine Empire' and various other nations inheriting a bit of Rome's power, and so on). This has even gotten to the point that many, many Americans fear that their government would gradually erase their freedoms and create a totalitarian nightmare ([[UsefulNotes/PoliticalIdeologies fascist, socialist, or any other strawman here]]) that would make [[CrapsackWorld Oceania]] of ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' look like the Boy Scouts.
Scouts. Suffice to say, the election of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump hasn't done much to assuage these fears for his sizeable {{hatedom}}.
7th Mar '17 9:28:15 PM samhuddy
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The Cringe in Israel originates is essentially rooted in being a small country with a massive public profile. The Israeli film (and increasingly television) industry is disproportionately large, producing twice as many studio films per capita than the United States in a typical year. The problem with this is that it doesn't have a population large enough (8.5 million) to support such a prolific industry. Consequently, Israeli media overwhelmingly caters to western sensibilities that view Israel as less of a country and more of an "issue." Cue an avalanche of AwardsBait family dramas, war movies, and social commentaries. As of the NewTens, many Israeli filmmakers have tried to branch out into more typical genre fare— all of which is tellingly referred to in the industry as ''fantazia''. As a result, there's an even larger than usual domestic demand for American popular culture to fill that gap.

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The Cringe in Israel originates is essentially rooted in being a small country with a massive public profile. The Israeli film (and increasingly television) industry is disproportionately large, producing twice as many studio films per capita than the United States in a typical year. The problem with this is that it doesn't have a population large enough (8.5 million) to support such a prolific industry. Consequently, Israeli media overwhelmingly caters to western sensibilities that view Israel as less of a country and more of an "issue." Cue an avalanche of AwardsBait OscarBait family dramas, war movies, and social commentaries. As of the NewTens, TheNewTens, many Israeli filmmakers have tried to branch out into more typical a broader array of genre fare— all of which is tellingly referred to in the industry as ''fantazia''. As a result, there's an even larger than usual domestic demand for American popular culture to fill that gap.



Aside from this there are also ethnic groups in Israel with this sense of cringe regarding other groups, notably with Mizrakhi Jews who associate their own heritage with barbarous LowerClassLout behaviour and ‘Azhkenazihood’ with civility.

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Aside from this there are also ethnic groups in Israel with this sense of cringe regarding other groups, notably with Mizrakhi Mizrachi Jews who associate their own heritage with barbarous LowerClassLout behaviour and ‘Azhkenazihood’ with civility.civility. In return, Mizrachim, who were semi-officially treated as a political underclass up to the late 1970s, often view the disproportionately Ashkenazi entertainment industry as excessively apologetic and enamored of European culture. The current Minister of Culture, the Mizrachi Miri Regev, famously greeted said industry with a gleefully antagonistic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech.
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